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COLIN ANDREWS SAYS!!!!

CROP CIRCLE RESEARCHERS RESPOND

compiled by Dee Finney

August 10, 2002

Colin Andrews

Windmill Hill - 1996

THE CIRCULAR:

Vol 3/2 - July 1992 - •The Trilling Noise - Colin Andrews.

Issue 39 Autumn 2000 -   Colin Andrews' Statement plus Response - David Cayton

Crop Circles:

The 1998 Update directly From England.

1998 has produced once again some incredible designs and also an increasing number of haxes. These will be shown and discussed as will the possible reasons for them.

Colin will show slides taken of all the major crop formations from the research surveillance aircraft flying over England between May and August this year.

Some significant scientific discoveries have been made in the last few weeks which support earlier indications that the earth’s magnetic field is in some way involved with the crop circle patterns or their creators.

The workshop following the lecture will go into detail of all the lecture discussions and will for the first time include information and discussion about the application of some of the findings.

He is of the opinion that time is running out to fully understand what crop circles mean and how we might fully use them. He has for several years warned that he believes the serious environmental deterioration and the arrival of the patterns is not a co-incidence.

Colin Andrews is the acknowledged world expert on Crop Circles and has spent many years lecturing to scientists, government officials and public alike on his 15 years research findings.

November 14 & 15, 1998.
Hynes Convention Center, Boston

From: Dee777@xxx.xxx
Date: Sun Nov 8, 1998 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: [earthchanges] Joe's Response to Colin Andrews

In a message dated 11/8/98 2:53:55 PM Central Standard Time,

JMason4557@aol.com writes:

<<

From: JMason4557@aol.com

Hi again, EarthChangers.

Below is my response to crop circle researcher, Colin Andrews.

Light -

Joe Mason

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In a message dated 98-11-07 18:49:00 EST, you write:

<< Subj: Re: Challenge to (FCCI's) Matthew's statement - crop circles

Thank you for your communication.>> (snip)

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Dear Colin,

I am pleased and honored that you responded to my missive in such a positive way. You are one of my "heroes."

I felt you might appreciate the dreams, as I read about your dream of the Celtic Cross, and I know about many of your experiences. I have the first two books, and many of the old CPR newsletters.

Near the end of 1990, I wrote to the editors of "Circular Evidence," and they put me in contact with Pat Delgado. We exchanged letters for a while, and I began receiving the CPR, and later Pat's newsletter.

Unfortunately, Pat never had time to read the large stack of material I sent to him, some of which connected to crop formations that appeared later. I sent stacks of material to Leonie Starr also, and lesser amounts to other researchers. I finally gave up, as no one found the time for it.

It all worked out well though, I am now putting it all on-line. We have some 40 megabytes now, and have only began.

The most important report I read in CPR was where the two apple trees shook for no apparent reason at the Oxfordshire cricket game, and a half circle appeared next to it, and a full circle out in the field.

I had a dream of the two trees later, and read a "synchronistic" story of a UFO appearing over trees in Leon, France. Two witnesses saw the craft "suck up" two trees.

It seemed significant in another way . . . Leon was the birthplace of the Christianity that came down to us. Iraneus, the Bishop of Leon, compiled the first version of the New Testament around 180 A. D.

This was just one of many huge "coincidences" I found when I read Revelation 11:11, where the two trees stand up after 3 1/2 days. They are also called two lampstands and two prophets (witnesses).

All this is now pointing to the 1999 Solar eclipse, timed to 11:11 on the same day of the year that the Mandelbrot Set, the Spider's Web, and the Oliver's Castle circles appeared. August 11 is also thought by some to be the beginning date on the Mayan calendar.

Modern scholarship concerning The Dead Sea Scrolls is connecting to the story here. There were two anointed messiahs, the King/Governor and the High Priest. This directly ties into the two trees via Zehcariah 3 and 4, indicated by Joshua and Zurubabbel, the High Priest and Governor at the time the Jews returned from captivity in Babylon. Verse 4 speaks of the oil pouring from the golden pipes below the branches, and says these are the two anointed.

The Arthurian Grail legends contain the idea of the Fisher Kings, who combined the two Royal Bloodlines from Judah and Aaron into a single leader. At 11:11 a. m. the "Diamond Ring" will form over Cornwall, home of many of the Grail legends.

It is said that the Arthurian Grail legends came from the Knights Templar or their associates. It was an attempt to keep the esoteric ancient wisdom alive, in a time where it was dangerous to hold such beliefs. Celtic beliefs were part of it. It is part of the historical "war" of religion.

The legends are supported by some historical "facts," according to some. In any case, I believe the symbolism is important. Glastonbury is also central to the legends, and it is said to be at one corner of the Wessex Triangle.

As with many other dreams, myths, and crop formations, the symbolism is suggesting a duality balance in the future, and it is related to the Trinity. My research indicates that the symbolism is often shown as male and female, corresponding to the rational-left brain, and the intuitional/dreaming right brain, or the physical and spiritual.

The formations with rings bisected by a line, seems to suggest the duality. In "The Sacred Symbols of Mu," it is shown as part of three glyphs, a ring, the bisected circle, and a circle with two parallel lines.

They correspond to a triangle with the letters A, U, and M, in the corners. It basically refers to the Trinity - the Father and Mother engendered the Son, Man. The three circular glyphs indicate the One, becomes Two, and produces the third, the Son, Man. In the Barbury Castle triangle, the same relationship is shown as the Sun, the Moon, and Mercury.

As Blavatsky said, the Son in the Trinity is androgen, a male/female being. The Greek Mercury, Hermes, fits the picture.

One of the most revealing formations, I believe, was the one that appeared at Tweksbury in 1992, of the female symbol of Venus joined together with the male symbol of Mars.

All of this is very, very supported by dreams, in my opinion. It is not being recognized often, because father, mother, daughter, and son, in the dreams are not being considered with the higher meaning.

A solar eclipse, of course, is considered a major duality/Trinity symbolism. Interestingly, the three circle at the bottom of the central pillar of The Tree of Life, seem to correspond to sun, moon, and earth.

I believe a crop formation last year may also suggest such an alignment:

<A HREF="http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/1998/bishop98.html">Star of David w/Crescent - Bishop Cannings,nr Devizes,Wiltshire 5 August</A> http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/1998/bishop98.html
Available only with payment to site

Such a star, of course, is within the symbol of the heart chakra, and is associated with the Royal Bloodline of Kings.

Blavatsky's "Isis Unveiled," vol. 2, has been perhaps the most important book in my research. I have working on a web page that will show the crop circle connections to the glyphs she depicted in the first pages of "The Secret Doctrine." If you want to see the glyphs, go here:

The Secret Doctrine with glyphs

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd1-0-pr.htm

At the bottom of page 4 and top of page 5, you will see the glyphs, all of which have appeared in some form as crop formations. One of the most interesting is the five-pointed star reversed, with two points or horns pointing upward. It is a symbol of the Kali-Yuga time. This connects, I believe, with the Bythorn Mandala, which had two points facing North, and is known to be a yantra to Kali, and figured to be related to the third chakra.

I'm sure you know that some researchers believe that many of the formations are indicating the chakras. We have an article about it:

CROP CIRCLE FORMATIONS AS CHAKRAS

http://www.greatdreams.com/chkraccs.htm

The "3 1/2" symbolism, of course, connects with the midpoint of the chakras, as found in worldwide myths and religions, including many various forms in the Bible. You probably know too, that the Sri Yantra represents a path through the chakras, from outward, inward.

In my previous e-mail, I sent the URL of our crop circle page. This is the right one:

http://www.greatdreams.com/crpcirc.htm

After you moved to the U.S., I called your office, around 1993. I mentioned to the lady that I had some ideas about the formation that appeared at Old Sarum in 1992, a diagram of which was depicted in your newsletter. She said that you would call me when you returned, but it never happened.

It's a long story, but the Old Sarum formation matched perfectly with a series of dreams and coincidences that related to the dream of Nebuchadnezzar in the Book of Daniel. The four metals of the frightening image, were interpreted by Daniel to be ages. The Hindu Yugas have the same four metals, gold, silver, bronze, and iron.

I found later that the church at Old Sarum was known for a special ceremony of the Eucharist. The Eucharist or communion is quite connected to the Grail legends.

To me, all these things are like little puzzle-pieces that are fitting together into a larger picture. I can't be sure if I have it all "right," but I am convinced that some of it is near the mark.

Dee and I are based in Waterford, California, near the city of Modesto, in the center of the great central valley.

Thanks again for writing. I hope we keep in touch . . . at least every once in a while, when something major comes along.

All my best,

Joe Mason

From: Dee777@aol.com
Date: Thu Dec 31, 1998 10:51 pm

Subject: Re: [earthchanges] Fw: Doug Bowers says "He was told to make them"

In a message dated 12/31/98 9:56:39 PM Central Standard Time,

JMason4557@aol.com writes:

Subj: Fw: Doug Bowers says "He was told to make them"

Date: 98-12-31 17:11:35 EST

From: cropcircles.ufos@xxx (Cropcircles Ufos)

-----Original Message-----

From: Colin Andrews <CPRAndrews@worldnet.att.net>

To: Undisclosed Recipients

Date: 31 December 1998 16:50

Subject: Doug Bowers says "He was told to make them"

Following extensive inquiries in the past 24 hours, regarding information I received from England about comments allegedly made by Doug Bowers - I have an update.

I received information from England yesterday (30th Dec), via telephone, that a British Newspaper had published a story on Sunday about crop circles and Doug Bowers involvement. I was told that the article had stated Doug Bowers had said that they had been told to say, they had made the crop circles. It would now appear that this was a miss reading of what was said. But the actual statement is every bit as interesting and revealing and in fact supports what myself and others have felt for some time... i.e. The hoaxers are all part of the bigger plan, if you like, part of the mystery.

The story was about the BBC television program called "Country File" which is to be broadcast in Britain on Sunday, January 3rd. Doug Bowers will state on the program that he believes Dave Chorley and himself, "were directed by an unknown force to make crop circles". He will go on to say he thinks they were "programmed". This is a 180 degree turn around by one of the two men who convinced the international media during 1991, that they were responsible for all the crop circles. I wonder if the same media, worldwide will publish this incredible "turning of the tide" statement !!!

A similar statement was made by Doug and Dave to TV producer, John Macnish about four years ago during an interview he conducted with them for his book on the subject.

There are numerous examples of unexplainable experiences of a similar kind with crop circle researchers (including myself), as well as people who are making some of them. On this occasion it appears that Doug decided to come clean in a national television program, which will no doubt once again open up one of the biggest and most bizarre stories of our time. Another day, another turn of events.

Colin - A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL.

For those living in the USA - Do not overlook the CNN special on the potential "Millenium Bug" catastrophe on the close horizon.

CNN at 5.30 PM Friday (Eastern Time).

Wednesday, May 19, 1999 Published at 11:11 GMT 12:11 UK

UK

US billionaire funds crop circle research

Some crop circles can be very elaborate

US billionaire Laurance Rockefeller is to fund the UK's biggest survey of crop circles.

Scientists will be carrying out aerial research over Wiltshire next month in the hope of finding out once and for all whether the mysterious patterns are genuine or the work of hoaxers.

Some believe they are created by UFOs during nocturnal visits. Others say they are connected to ancient "ley lines", or put it down to natural phenomena such as unusual forms of lightning.

The first few crop circles of the season have already appeared in several West Country fields. The area has long been the focal point of those in Britain who believe that the circles are the work of extra terrestrial forces.

Last year a US Website advertised week-long tours of UK crop circles priced at $2,199 per person.

Until now research has been carried out by amateurs and enthusiasts, known as croppies. But there is a growing scientific discipline based around the study, known as cereology.

Mr Rockefeller has given his financial backing to the UK's largest and most scientific study.

One of Mr Rockefeller's areas for charitable giving is what he calls "spirituality", which includes research into UFOs and other unexplained phenomena.

Work funded by the billionaire has already built up the biggest crop circle database.

Many farmers believe crop circles are the work of hoaxers, and say they cause thousands of pounds of damage every year. Several people have come forward to claim responsibility.

In 1991 two landscape painters, David Chorley and Douglas Bower, claimed they started the hoax in 1978, after drinking in a pub.

They said for the past 13 years they had been sneaking around southern England at night, fashioning as many as 25 to 30 new circles each growing season.

In a BBC CountryFile special in January, Mr Bower, 74, showed how his patterns were made with planks of wood, lengths of rope and a ball of string. He said he was amazed that many followers of crop circles still refused to believe they were a hoax.

But it seems there remain unexplained factors, such as the lack or tracks or footsteps.

An earlier version of this story included a picture of Larry Rockefeller, Laurance Rockefeller's son. Larry Rockefeller has no involvement in funding the crop circle research and BBC News Online regrets any confusion.

Rockefeller Funds Crop Circle Research

May 21, 1999

Laurence Rockefeller, the American millionaire and philanthropist, is funding scientific research into crop circles, it emerged yesterday. Why? After all, this is a problem that everyone thought had been solved.

The Crop Circle Mystery caused headlines and arguments nearly every summer for 20 years. Strange shapes were appearing in cornfields in Wiltshire and other counties. From the ground, the corn was seen to be beaten down, amazingly regular. From the air, the patterns appeared.

They came first as simple circles. Later, there were circles within circles, then more intricate patterns still - circles radiating spiral arms, circles joined by straight lines, circles arranged in squares, even snowflake patterns of amazing intricacy and beauty.

For 20 years arguments raged. Were they caused by circular winds? Or were mysterious forces at work? The obvious solution was human hoax. But if so, how?

In 1992, two Southampton men, Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, confessed to making corn circles: every summer night for 20 years. Their method was simple: rakes and planks of wood to bash down the crop, ropes to guide them to a perfect circle, loops of wire on hats to guide straight lines.

It began as fun but, as UFO theories snowballed, they wanted to see how credulous people could be.

Dave Chorley died in 1996. The pair had retired from circle-making some time before. That should have been the end of the mystery. Yet corn circles continued to appear.

'They are worldwide,' says Michael Green, President of the Centre for Crop Circle Studies. And this week, the first of this season's British crop, 12 of them, have been seen in fields of oil-seed rape in Hampshire and at Milk Hill, Wiltshire.

Andrew Thomas, author of the crop-circle book, Vital Signs, claims that the Bower-Chorley 'confession' was itself a hoax: 'They could not explain how they laid the stalks so perfectly; nor why the circles have continued to appear.'

And now Laurence Rockefeller, brother of the late Nelson Rockefeller, is funding a researcher to re-investigate the phenomenon.

He is paying Connecticut-based Colin Andrews to engage staff and they have flown reconnaissance flights over Wiltshire and Hampshire. Andrews has a database of 10,000 crop circles. With computers and satellites, the research and debate has re- opened. So what could cause them?

'First theories were circular winds, mini-cyclones or "dust-devilsî [tiny tornadoes], says Montague Keen, scientific adviser to the Centre for Crop-Circle Studies for three years. 'A meteorologist devised a theory of "plasma vortexes", spiralling winds of electrically-charged air.'

Ball lightning was another possibility - again circular, again involving powerful and little-understood forces of electricity.

'But straight lines do not come from natural phenomena,' says Keen. 'The patterns became increasingly complex and no natural phenomenon can change and evolve like that. There were too many for them all to be hoaxes.'

A U.S. physicist found evidence that corn inside the circles under-goes chemical and biological changes. It takes up more nitrates than corn outside, and microscopic holes form in the stem tissue. These changes seem to argue for a sudden, sharp infusion of energy into the circle - far more than could come from men with planks or rollers.

'I was never quite convinced that his research was sufficiently rigorous' says Mr Keen, 'but there were certainly electromagnetic changes within circles. Compasses behaved strangely; people felt either distress or euphoria inside the circles; and batteries went flat unaccountably often.

'All this seems to point away from hoax towards something very strange, indeed. There is clearly some kind of intelligence behind them.'

And if it is not natural intelligence? 'Well, then you are thrown back to imagining some wholly unnatural intelligence.' As, for example, some form of psychic projection from human beings - dead or alive.

'Some shapes of the early Eighties seemed similar to shapes carved into rocks by Palaeolithic man,' said Michael Green, President of the Centre for Crop Circle Studies.

Were mental energies of past minds being channelled into cornfields?

The first corn-circle for which evidence is claimed appeared in Hertfordshire in 1678. A pamphlet shows a woodcut of a circle mown in a field of oats, and the devil mowing.

The pamphlet describes the sky over the field that night as being 'all of a flame'; so here, too, for those who are willing to believe, is a link with flying saucers and UFOs.

For, of course, there are the aliens as the final theory of crop circles. Michael Green does not believe that little green men are responsible - but he believes some kind of non-human intelligence is behind them.

He points to a succession of shapes, from simple to complex to very complex indeed. Can these be messages to be read by all of mankind?

'These are written large on the landscape. They are there to be seen. There is a non-human intelligence behind them,' says Mr Green. 'That's what points one towards thinking the unthinkable.'

© Associated Newspapers Ltd., 20 May 1999

From: Dee777@xxx.xxx

Date: Thu Jul 15, 1999 7:43 am

Subject: Re: [Skyopen] Fw: Laurance Rockefeller funds UK crop circle researchers

In a message dated 07/15/1999 6:25:48 AM Central Daylight Time, skywatch@ltlb.com writes:

----- Original Message -----

From: Stig Agermose <stig.agermose@get2net.dk>

To: <CNINews1@xxx> (no longer available)

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 7:24 AM

Subject: Laurance Rockefeller funds UK crop circle researchers

Source: Fortean Times, issue 125 - August 1999,

http://www.forteantimes.com:80/artic/125/sdays.html (no longer available)

Stig

American billionaire Laurance Rockefeller has donated an undisclosed sum of money - believed to be several thousand pounds - to UK crop circle researchers, with the hope of gaining a better understanding of this perennial mystery. Rockefeller has had a long-standing interest in unexplained phenomena, particularly UFOs. He has provided funding to alien abduction researcher John Mack and the Starlight Coalition, comprising ex-military and US intelligence personnel with an interest in UFOs. The crop formations are now a traditional part of the British summer countryside and by mid-June, 30 had already sprung up in Wiltshire and Hampshire.

Veteran circles enthusiast Colin Andrews is co-ordinating the research, which will involve the use of helicopters, the National Farmers' Union and ex-members of Hampshire CID, as well as continued examination of soil and crop samples. Andrews now admits that 80 per cent of the formations are created by humans, though he still considers the remainder to be of unknown origin.

Others deny that there is any mystery left to be solved. Circle maker and artist Rod Dickinson told FT: "Along with the other participants of the crop circle phenomenon, Mr Rockefeller will find only what he expects to find. The phenomenon is regulated by the desire and belief of each individual recipient. This nebulous work of art continues to penetrate and extend its hold, like a form of mind virus that feeds on the visions, dreams and perceptions of others."

Andy Thomas (see FT125 Page 46) remains adamant that they're the result of more than just men at work: " The evidence, circumstances and the complicated geometry of the circles shows that they are not simply constructed in a few hours by people. There is a much more intelligent consciousness behind it. I have a feeling that they are precursors to some events or new period of time. It is no coincidence that there has been an increase in numbers over the last 10 years."

We'll be keeping a close eye on this season's developments, and will report back in a later issue.

Key Websites On The Subject:

Sceptical:  http://www.circlemakers.org

- The Circlemakers.

Hopeful: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com

- Crop Circle Connector

From: Dee777@aol.com

Date: Thu Jul 15, 1999 7:45 pm

Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: Auggie is Right!!!

Hi all:

I don't know who Auggie is, nor do I know which chat is being spoken of in this e-mail I've included. However, Joe and I participated in the crop circle chat on Sunday on the Cropcircleconnector site, with Ilyes. For the most part, Joe, I, and Ilyes were the only ones there. Mark Fussell joined us for a couple minutes after coming in from investigating a new crop circle, and an anonymous person (male) from the Seattle area also joined the chat for a few minutes but wouldn't identify himself though he said he knew Ilyes, but she couldn't remember who HE was.

So much for that. Unless people support the crop circle investigators, there soon will be no investigators. I heard today that Lawrence Rockefeller is going to support Colin Andrews as far as paying for helicopters and planes to take photos and that will help a great deal. Ilyes herself lives on a pittance amount of money per month, does not get a salary for all she does, and it's amazing that she can continue the way she does. The other guys don't get paid either, and the cost of the website which was 1100# UK last month comes out of their pockets. They have tried asking people to pay for a membership in order to view the valuable photos. However, that is not working out very well, and it won't be much longer and the website will have to be discontinued or limited. The cost of a helicopter is $750 per hour, and a small plane costs $200 per hour. Cost of film, time, etc. is being offered at their own cost by this small group of cooperative people who keep us informed

I suggest that people who want archives of crop circles better make their own archives at home. It appears to me that many are already not available. They are all copyrighted, so they can't be published without permission, but there is no law about downloading them and keeping them for yourself.

The next point I would like to make is this. There are many people studying the crop circles, and it's not just a matter of the numbers, or whether an intelligent person/ET made them, but there are messages coming in these circles and it's important that we figure out what those messages are.

One person who spends a lot of time doing this is Joe Mason. I say this without prejudice. I'd say it even if I didn't know him. His latest two studies are these:

http://www.greatdreams.com/treeol.htm

The Tree of Life Crop Circle Formation

and

http://www.greatdreams.com/menorah.htm

THE MENORAH CROP CIRCLE FORMATION

I would also suggest that people be aware of Joes crop circle web page:

http://www.greatdreams.com/crpcirc.htm

CROP CIRCLES, THEIR MEANING AND CONNECTIONS TO DREAMS

and see the rest of the articles and other websites who are doing this work. Ilyes herself has an incredible theory about sound and the creation of the circles which I think is as accurate as any I've seen so far. I suggest that everyone read it.

Please pass this e-mail on if you wish. The more people know about this dillemma, the better.

Dee

In a message dated 07/15/1999 7:40:26 PM Central Daylight Time, Milamo writes:

<< Subj: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Fw: Auggie is Right!!!

Date: 07/15/1999 7:40:26 PM Central Daylight Time

From: Milamo

To: Dee777, Code UFO, jactuz@xxx

A 'forward' here .... thanks ....

-- Michael L. Morton

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Forwarded Message:

Subj: Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: Auggie is Right!!!

Date: 07/15/1999 7:32:53 PM Central Daylight Time

From: Milamo

In a message dated 7/15/99 12:56:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lancec@xxx writes:

<< DorcasQ@xxx(D Dorcasq)

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Auggie is Right!!!

Hi all!

I did not take part in the chat, but if I might be allowed, I would like to make a comment. In fact, I will make a comment whether I am allowed or not.

Michael Morton is right when we have to establish the fact that the crop circles were made by a supreme intelligence. One way of doing this is to establish the mathematics of the crop circle.

However, once we have examined the crop circles in a technical sense to determine that they were made by a supreme intelligence, it is not enough to just stop there. This supreme intelligence must have a reason for making the crop circles and it is in their reason for doing it that we get the message of the crop circles. It is in this sense that Augie is right.

The message of the crop circles takes us beyond the mathematics once we have established that the crop circles are legitimate. If we do not try to understand this message, then the intelligence who created them is just wasting its time.

Marge >>

I can appreciate our ever-present, ultimately-philosophical quest to wonder about "WHY .. WHY ... WHY" ...... regarding the crop formation phenomenon, and other things.

There are probably, I think, many "levels" of information contained in these formations.

I think we need to take *first things first*, however. When I say "WE" need to take 'first things first' ... I mean the 'consensus awareness' of people in our culture ...in our 'civilization' .... needs to take first-things-first in terms of OBSERVATION, AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT-OF-SIGNIFICANCE-OF-CONTENT.

I say this HAS NOT happened, yet ... that is ... this has not happened yet in terms of a CONSENSUS, in our culture. How do I mean "our culture" ? I mean people on planet Earth, "in general" ... not just people 'on the cutting edge', so to speak.

How can the consensus "acknowledgement of significance, through 'awareness' (of same)" .... happen ? I think it has to happen through some sort of self-evident, i.e. "self-referential" ... LANGUAGE. What sort of 'language' ? NUMBERS !!!!!!!

Universal math constants !!! Like the Pi constant, and like the Phi (Golden Section) constant. AND, through number-oriented 'conventions' ... like 360 arc-degrees on one circumference, 60 arc-minutes in an arc-degree, 60 arc-seconds in an arc-minute, etc., etc. Yes .... this is what our latitude/longitude system is all about.

So ... what I'm getting at, here, is that we *first* need a *NEW* CONSENSUS awareness ... of the self-referential, self-evident RELATIONSHIPS being *shown* in-and-by the formations. One of the most readily-verifiable relationships being displayed, by at least some of the formations ... is the design of given formations in-relation-to PRECISELY *WHERE* those given formations *are* created ... in terms of very specific ... "verifiable" ... latitude and longitude ... based on an ANCIENT PRIME MERIDIAN through The Great Pyramid !!! The implications of the REALITY of this ancient *prime meridian* ALONE are staggering to the **ESTABLISHMENT** in OUR *PRESENT* CONSENSUS CULTURE !!!

We simply cannot honestly "BY-PASS" this needed *FIRST STEP*. If *we* are to seriously progress into "cosmic citizenship" or anything close to it ... *we* FIRST need to CONSENSUALLY (collectively) achieve an awareness of  at least *some* of the most readily-verifiable *number-relationships* being displayed as SPATIAL /TIME ... that is ... WHERE the formations *ARE* in-relation-to the 360-degree-based latitude/longitude system ... which uses the center of The Great Pyramid of Giza as a prime meridian marker ... AND which has a verified, proven analogue on the planet Mars ... 'The D&M Pyramid' of Cydonia !!!! You see ..... we ALSO need to achieve a consensus awareness of the REALITY of those particular structures on Mars ... 'The D&M Pyramid'  and 'The Face' at Cydonia !!! The ESTABLISHMENT .... using the old leverage of the *CURRENT* consensus ... doesn't want to allow *us* to become aware of the REALITY of those structures on Mars. They are afraid of change !!! They are fearful. And so they are basically in-denial. They want to RETAIN the OLD  paradigm. Do YOU want to retain the old paradigm ?

Yes ... we will ALWAYS wonder about the 'ultimate philosophical questions' ....such as "where did *it* all start ?" .... and, "how did it all begin ?" .... and, "who started it all ?"... and, "why did he/she/they/it start it all ?" ..... and, "what is the purpose of life ?" .... and, "does the Ultimate Creator go to the toilet ?"  ... and on and on. But right now, here and now ... *we*, collectively, need to first DO OUR HOMEWORK .... to achieve the needed consensus awareness ... to enable *us* to become more like 'cosmic citizens', if you will.

So far ... there are VERY, VERY FEW of *us* .... relatively speaking ....who are, in fact, OF-THIS-AWARENESS of which I speak (write).People such as Richard C. Hoagland, Carl P. Munck, Zecharia Sitchin, Neil Freer, Laurence Gardner, Mark Carlotto, David M. Jinks, myself, and others ... *are* of-this-awareness .... and also have been trying to help COMMUNICATE this awareness to others. But the greed, the fear, the denial ....and the sheer *un-awareness* ... of the Establishment and the Establishment- controlled-and-manipulated masses of the population ...*has been suppressing* the efforts of these relatively few people. We need a grass-roots breakthrough ...some sort of grass-roots breakthrough, in the dissemination of the information from these relatively few people.

Thanks for hearing me out.

-- Michael L. Morton

http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/mlmindex.htm

http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm

From: Dee777@xxx.xxx

Date: Mon Oct 11, 1999 2:58 pm

Subject: Fwd: Crop Circles and Sound ... /thanks Arlene

http://www.lovely.clara.net/crop_circles_sound.html

http://www.lovely.clara.net/homepg.html

http://www.inannareturns.com

"See God in Every Eye" --Inanna, Goddess of Love V.S. Ferguson author, Inanna Returns and Inanna Hyper-Luminal

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From: Arlene <mindfire@xxx>

To: Susan <theldar@xxx>

Subject: Crop Circles and Sound ...

Hi Susan,

Based on an extract from Secrets in the Fields by Freddy Silva, which is being published by Llewellyn.

Images &copy; Freddy Silva, Hans Wiedmer, "http://cropcircleconnector.com/Lucy/lucyP.html Lucy Pringle, Colin Andrews. (no longer available)

For over twenty years the normally quaint and quiet English countryside has slowly been overrun by a phenomenon more akin to 'It Came From Outer Space' than to cream tea. Fields long accustomed to entertaining wheat, barley or canola are, with increasing frequency, playing host to magnificent pictograms in the form of crop circles: areas of flattened crop as large as 100,000 sq. ft. where plants are bent an inch above soil level and gently laid down in geometrically-precise pictograms, with no visible signs of damage or human entry.

But what started as a local phenomenon in the environs of Stonehenge and Silbury Hill has since become a major British export: to date, some 9000 crop circles have been reported worldwide.

If they had their way, certain television documentaries would have you believing that all crop circles have been nothing more than the work of two simple, elderly men armed with a plank of wood and a baseball cap fitted with a ludicrous wire attachment which, they claim, helped make mathematically-correct circles and ruler-straight lines in total darkness.

But in these programs the meat on the bone of research is systematically stripped before reaching the table and what the public is left with is an opportunity to be turned off in the face of a human agency being presented which seemingly explains the whole phenomenon. This is why there is so much disbelief, even hostility, towards crop circles in the public's eye. Yet despite consistent attempts, researchers, scientists and hoaxers have failed to replicate all kinds of phenomena associated with genuine crop circles: plants bent, not broken or damaged, radically-altered chromosomes, massive depletion of the watershed, soil element alterations, major discrepancies in background radiation and electromagnetic fields, dowsable and long-lasting energy patterns, and so on.

Most disturbing for hoaxer advocates has been the discovery by Emeritus Professor of Astronomy, Gerald Hawkins, of Euclidean geometry and diatonic ratios present in crop circles, features requiring a familiarity beyond basic math and yet to be found in both controlled man-made designs or uncontrolled hoaxes.

So much, then, for two guys and a large two-by-four.

But what, then, is causing several thousand square feet of crop to suddenly lay down in designs of immense complexity and hypnotizing beauty?

The ground component.

When cutting the stems of affected plants, a malty fragrance is detected suggesting that they have been 'cooked' from the inside. Yet they remain unharmed. A second ground observation reveals that a noticeable amount of ground water in and around crop circles appears to have vanished (this is corroborated by my infra red photographic analysis); the soil within a formation is generally dry, even cracked, despite overnight rains. Exhaustive lab analysis into hundreds of crop circles from 1991-95 by biophysicist Dr. W.C. Levengood reveals physical and biophysical changes in plants inside crop circles: their nodes are literally blown open to form ``expulsion cavities,'' an effect unique to crop formations and reproduced in a lab setting through ``a very rapid rate of heating.'' Levengood also discovered alterations in the germination and development of seed embryos, alterations in plant stem node length and circumference (up to 200 per cent in one case), and enlarged cell wall pit diameters in bract tissue- actions consistent with the application of intense heat.

This leads to the speculation that the affected plants are 'microwaved' for a very intense, yet brief period of duration. The ground water is partly vaporized, partly sucked into the plant thereby preventing the field from catching fire while the stems are made supple enough to bend without cracking, enabling them to be easily manipulated into precise patterns. But this does not account for the geometric designs.

The geometric component.

Look through 20 years of aerial photos of these agriglyphs and it is hard to deny their melodic precision, their circular forms resplendent with abstract, yet harmonic waves of invisible energy. Hardly surprising, then, to discover crop circle designs flaunting the principles of sacred geometry, either visually or veiled within the construction blueprint, much in the same way ancient esoteric knowledge was hidden within the framework of religious fables or monuments.

In his visionary work, The Sophistication of Agriglyth Geometry, John Martineau was perhaps the first to visualize this coded information in the early phases of the phenomenon; my own dissections of aerial photographs also prove the same to be true of designs in recent years. Even what sometimes appear to be loose or random elements both within and beyond the perimeter of formations- such as small unconnected circles or 'grapeshot', and rectangular boxes- are placed along an invisible matrix of pentagonal and hexagonal alignments based on proportional geometry and Golden Mean ratios.

In Science News (Feb. 92),  Prof. Hawkins went a step further by using the principles of Euclidean geometry to prove that four theorems could be derived from the relationships among the elements in crop circles. More significantly, he discovered a fifth theorem from which he could derive the other four. Despite an open challenge, tens of thousands of subscribers to both Science News and Mathematics Teacher were unable to create such a theorem, which Euclid himself had only hinted at twenty-three centuries earlier. It subsequently appeared as flattened barley at Litchfield, England, in 1995.

The sound component.

Ancient Greeks once remarked that "geometry is frozen music". To their Egyptian teachers, sacred geometry and music were inextricably linked since the laws of the former govern the mathematical intervals that make up the notes in the western music scale- the diatonic ratios. Coincidentally, Hawkins' Euclidean theorems had also produced diatonic ratios. So for the first time, geometric theorems were linked with music and crop circles were proved to contain musical notes, which are themselves the by-product of the harmonic laws of sound frequency.

The fields themselves offered blatant clues pointing to a sound component. In 1996 a crop circle demonstrated the combination of two important figures, the 3, 4, 5 triangle and the Golden Mean, which gives us the diagram necessary to produce musical ratios (as exemplified in The Divine Proportion by H.E.Huntley).

Then, an outstanding formation at Goodwood Clatford- which had its plants bent six inches from the top - gave the proverbial nod to sound. For here was a representation of a cymatic pattern in 5000 sq ft of barley. And it led straight to a smoking gun.

NOTE FROM ED: This was the end of the e-mail. The rest of the article and images are here:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/sounds1.html


From: Dee777@aol.com

Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 1:00 am

Subject: Re: TMP News: News Briefing - January 23, 2000

In a message dated 01/23/2000 3:21:11 PM Central Standard Time, psa@xxx  writes: <<

CPRI Founder Colin Andrews Diagnosed with Skin Cancer http://www.geocities.com/cpr-canada/colincancer.html

NOTE: This website is not longer available.

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Wed Aug 9, 2000 11:57 am

Subject: Re: [earthchanges] BBC crop circle 'news'

In a message dated 08/09/2000 9:31:23 AM Central Daylight Time,  databator@xxx writes: <<

Further to my last post, here is the url for the BBC news 'item'... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_872000/872142.stm

interestingly a study funded by the Rockerfeller Institute....

Love and cheese. Paul.

>>

This article made me absolutely sick. I can hardly believe that Colin Andrews would say something like this in public after all the scientific work that has been done on individual crop circles.

I know that the researchers needed money and Rockefellers money was needed desperately to keep the helicopters in the air and pay for photographer's film, etc. but for it to come out with this kind of crap is unbelievable.

See this:  CROP CIRCLES, THEIR MEANING AND CONNECTIONS TO DREAMS

Dee

Here is a copy of the article:

Magnetic 'solution' to crop circle puzzle

Colin Andrews has researched crop circles since the 80s

Research into the appearance of crop circles in summer fields claims the strange phenomena are caused by the Earth's magnetic field.

Scientist Colin Andrews says 17 years of work has revealed that about 80% of the formations are man-made.

But he believes that magnetism may account for the rest, which display a simplicity of form compared with elaborate, beautiful patterns of the "hoaxes".

Dr Andrews believes a mysterious shift in the magnetic field gives rise to a current that "electrocutes" the crops forcing them to lie flat on the ground.

Summertime feature

The known hoaxers, artists who spend hours trampling fields with footboards attached to a length of rope, say the public does not believe in scientific explanations.

Crop circles are a regular summertime feature of the UK arable landscape, particularly in Wiltshire and the West Country where there are a number of ancient sites.

Designs in the flattened wheat, barley and corn become more elaborate each year, fuelling the debate over who or what is responsible for them.

Explanations have ranged from freak weather conditions to alien visitors. But Dr Andrews, funded by a grant from the Rockerfeller Institute in the US, believes he is closer to the truth.

'Natural' creations

He has hired private detectives to track hoaxers and now says he can rule out 80% of the formations. He claims the less elaborate designs are the "natural" creations caused by a three-degree shift in magnetic field lines.

Some claim circles are UFO landing sites Dr Andrews, who plans to publish his findings later this year, says more work still needs to be done his theory.

Self-proclaimed hoaxer John Lundberg said no-one would ever believe a scientific explanation for crop circles because people want to believe it is something more mysterious. "The public don't want it explained," he said.

Most mainstream scientists believe the only explanation for crop circles lies in the footboards of hoaxers.

BBC News Online

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Sun Aug 20, 2000 9:56 am

Subject: Re: Statement by Colin Andrews

In a message dated 08/19/2000 7:00:12 PM Central Daylight Time, Milamo writes:

Subj: Fwd: Statement by Colin Andrews

Date: 08/19/2000 7:00:12 PM Central Daylight Time

From: Milamo

To: Dee777

At 'this moment', I have no comment on 'the following'. However, I might address this in the not-too-distant future.

-- Michael L. M.

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Date: 8/18/2000 11:56 AM

Received: 8/18/2000 4:49 PM

From: ColinAndrews1@aol.com

Due to the intensity of debate following my recent televised announcement, I would greatly appreciate your help in posting this full statement. The higher prominence you are able to give it will help correct many misunderstandings.

I very much appreciate your help with this.

Colin Andrews

FORMAL STATEMENT BY COLIN ANDREWS.

FINDINGS OF A MAGNETIC SIGNATURE IN SOME CROP CIRCLES.

AN ESTIMATED 20% OF CROP CIRCLES SHOW NO EVIDENCE OF BEING MADE BY PEOPLE, WHILE 80% DO.

On Wednesday the 9th of August, I announced on national television and radio the outcome of an ongoing investigation into aspects of the crop circle mystery.

Four years ago I began measuring the Earth's magnetic field in and around crop circles. The project was initiated by on-going reports of anomalous magnetic phenomena such as spinning compass needles inside crop circles (witnessed by me amongst others during the 1980's), unusual failures of electronic equipment and radio frequency interference. The project enlarged findings of a German-based study conducted in the early 1990's.

The magnetometer survey included complex crop patterns as well as simple circles. Results showed a descriptive magnetic signature in a hand full of simple circles and basic geometric patterns. This signature consists of an increased magnetic reading which replicates the actual design of the crop pattern being measured, but occurs out of sync with the design by 3-5 degrees in a clockwise direction.

These findings may prove to be the basis of a natural mechanism involved in the creation of the formations or it may be a residual magnetic effect resulting from the creation of the crop circle. The model I have been developing, and will be collaborating on with further scientific input, is that the magnetic flux involved creates an electric current which effects the plants. The question of what causes the magnetic flux still remains.

A full technical paper of my findings and developing theory are being prepared.

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THE LEVEL OF MAN MADE CREATIONS.

For a number of years I have been aware of a growing level of man-made creations.

During the mid-1980's I was shown privileged information by a BBC journalist who had gone undercover for two years working closely with Dave Chorley and Doug Bowers in an effort to establish the truth behind their claims to be making crop circles.

I was shown letters mailed by Doug &Dave where they drew the patterns that they planned to make in Hampshire and Wiltshire, along with the dates and places that they planned to make them. On the envelopes of some of the letters they sketched the planned design and placed the stamp over it, which was then date-stamped by the Royal Mail. Those patterns did appear, as had been proclaimed. Unknown to Doug and Dave, they were being filmed as they made the circles by the BBC journalist.

In ensuing weeks, other hoaxers were tracked and their handy-work also filmed. I did not want to believe the evidence being handed me, as others now do not want to believe me. To satisfy my own need for honest research, I began my own investigation into human involvement. I would suggest that anyone who disagrees with my conclusion, investigates hoaxing themselves, rather than falling back on the argument that it can't be done by humans.

In 1997, I was given a video of a formation at Oliver's Castle being made by balls of light. Although I wanted to believe it was real, things weren't adding up and I hired a private detective to unravel the loose ends. The investigation turned up irrefutable evidence that the video and the formation were hoaxes. Peter Sorenson, acting on his own information, came to the same conclusion. During 1999 I began another special project into people making crop circles. My research has included detective work, site inspections, physical evidence, aerial photography, personal experiences, information from media who have paid to have formations created for upcoming programs, and from undercover researchers.

My findings at this time are that ample evidence exists that an estimated 80% of crop circles are man-made. On the other hand, 20% revealed no evidence of human involvement. A handful of these 20% also displayed the newly discovered magnetic profile (all these were simple formations).

Some of the filmed evidence will be seen in an upcoming Channel Four production and a BBC documentary scheduled for early next year. The latter will also be shown on BBC2 and American TV.

It should be emphasized that NO EVIDENCE of human involvement could be found in 20% of the formations. All investigation has been done on crop circles in the UK and therefore, the results refer only to the situation in the UK.

Since making my announcement last week, a great deal of excitement and interest has been generated from scientists in several countries. I have already accepted an invitation to present my findings in Moscow next March.

Why did I make the announcement now?

I have received criticism from the crop circle community for releasing this information before scientific input into my magnetic results. I did this to give the research community an opportunity to know about it and to provide feedback. However, the primary reason for the announcement was due to the responsibility I feel for having been the largest worldwide voice spreading information for the past 17 years. The subject has been presented to and impacted governments, scientists, the British Royal Family, Indigenous people in many countries, individual seekers of truth and even religions. With this type of impact, truthfulness with self and others is paramount for all researchers. Unfortunately, more and more there has been a tendency for researchers to promote all crop patterns as being genuine. I have evidence that this is false and I must provide it. The full article of evidence is being prepared for release in the fall. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to enter their own evidence into the debate. I would be very happy to say I am wrong.

I believe these findings will allow a breath of honest, fresh air to blow through this subject and will be appreciated by the public in return. The scientific community has already shown how much they appreciate an honest picture by the many e-mails and letters I have received from scientists around the world. We all should feel more comfortable exposing the man-made crop designs for what they are - hoaxes and/or works of art.

I have no axe to grind with anybody. I set out to research crop circles 17 years ago, this week has been a very exciting one revealing more directions to investigate with more interest than at any time in the past several years.

For those who have listened with an open mind, even if my views do not agree with yours - thank you.

Colin Andrews

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Fri Nov 3, 2000 7:50 pm

Subject: Fwd: [SO] [Fwd: UFOnet: Crop Circle Arrest!]

From: Cliff Capers <cliff@skywatch-international.org>

Date: Fri Nov 3, 2000 2:59 pm

Subject: [SO] [Fwd: UFOnet: Crop Circle Arrest!]

To: SkyOpen <skyopen@egroups.com>

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: UFOnet: Crop Circle Arrest!

Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 22:15:25 +0000

From: David Haith <horizon@xxx>

TWO MEN ARRESTED AND EQUIPMENT SEIZED. ONE CHARGE OF MAKING CROP CIRCLE - OTHER INVESTIGATIONS UNDERWAY.

Crop circle researcher Colin Andrews tells me he received a phone call from a British Journalist early this morning to inform him of a newspaper article in today's "Western Daily Press" regarding the arrest of two men under suspicion of making a crop circle at West Overton He has spoken with Wiltshire Police who confirm the arrests and that the men live at the same address. Equipment and a computer have been seized by police who will apply for one of the men to be remanded at a court hearing set for Devizes Court on Monday 6th November. The police have told Colin Andrews that "it is likely other cases will be pursued."

According to police, they have been given photographic evidence and are looking at a great deal of other information. Colin Andrews may fly over for the full court hearing when that date is known. Monday's hearing will be adjourned after the application for a remand is heard.  Colin says he believes that this is a significant development and one which will lead to other arrests soon. He says the impact upon the events in the fields will be seen next year and will probably prove the extent to which people have been involved, i.e his own findings suggest 80 per cent of formations are faked. He says these arrests came as a surprise to him and he is no way involved with the police in this matter- his job being research. Colin has other information about the formation involved in the charge and its alleged connections with the USA but I am reluctant to publish them for legal reasons. The name of the man to appear in court on Monday has been disclosed by police but I am also witholding that on the side of legal caution.

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Thu May 16, 2002 12:47 pm

Subject: Re: UFO NEWS - CROP CIRCLE MOVIE

In a message dated 5/15/2002 11:27:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AJames@emufora.freeserve.co.uk writes:

An important moment for the Crop Circle creators.

The movie ˜A Place To Stay" is on its way to Cannes.

By movie chief consultant “Colin Andrews"

The official poster for the movie ˜A Place To Stay" has been released by Hollywood Daze Motion Pictures in Great Britain. The film heads for the Cannes film festival in two weeks time and with it comes a major opportunity for part of the crop circle story to be seen by millions of movie watchers. Never before has the human impact of the mystery been presented like this.

Director, Marcus Thompson has gone to great lengths to consult experts in this field and to include the spiritual and environmental impact that is so strongly felt by those who visit and research the mystery. Whether you research crop circles, visit them, have but little interest in them or even make them, this story has something IMPORTANT for you.

The crop circle sequences were filmed inside crop circles, some man made (for practical purposes) and some believed real. The beauty of Wiltshire can be seen in all its magical glory in much of the most incredible photography you will ever see on the wide screen.

The British film industry and Marcus Thompson have something to be proud of here. The movie has clearly been made with sincere passion and should fill the theatres with intrigue and sadness as the story conveys powerful messages that have a real and urgent place in our troubled world.

Permission is granted for this to be posted in any medium.

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Mon Aug 20, 2001 12:54 pm

Subject: The CIA, Colin Andrews, and The Crop Circles

In a message dated 8/19/2001 11:30:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

genesisoflight@xxx writes:

Although I'm not sure what the source of the interview with Colin Andrew is, I am forwarding it with the understanding that it is not confirmed. It does contain data is true, such as the fact that Colin Andrews did get funding or a job with the Rockefeller Center in the 1990's, but that does not mean that everything in the following article should be taken as fact unless further confirmed. Surfdog sent the article and might be able to tell us about its source.

'THE CIA AND THE CROP CIRCLES'

[JK = Jon King, CA = Colin Andrews]

JK: So, Colin. Can you think of any other instances where government agents have become involved in the crop circles research programme?

CA: Yes, yes, I can. One instance in particular comes to mind. A man who announced himself as working for the CIA back in, I think, June or July of 1989, approached me and said he had been assigned to 'bring me into a plan', or more precisely, 'buy me into a plan'. He said this was the sole reason he'd come to England - that his assignment was to implement and execute this plan in which I was to be involved.

JK: And did he tell you what this plan was?

CA: He did, yes. He told me that certain individuals, all of whom you know, Jon - Richard Andrews, Terence Meaden, Pat Delgado, to name a few - he told me that the CIA were about to promote each major researcher in turn and then publicly debunk them. He said this was a ploy that was frequently used. He said they would give them a stage, encourage them to declare their hand and, one by one, take them out. He said that I would then be left with a 'role' that he later revealed to me.

JK: How did this man make his approach? How did he contact you?

CA: Well, when he first arrived, Pat and I were asked to go up to Pebble Mill television studios in Birmingham to take part in a programme called Daytime Live. It was a kind of live TV debate situation. They were going to air the sequence that contained the mysterious sound detected in a crop formation and recorded by the BBC - the sound that destroyed a hundred thousand pounds' worth of TV camera one sunny afternoon at a crop circle site in Wiltshire! As we came on air, they were running this particular sequence.

Anyway, on the morning of the programme we were in our hotel, and we received a phone call from David Morgenstern of the BBC who said that they had received some communication from a man who claimed he had actually seen a crop circle being formed, and what questions should they ask that would allow them to know if he was telling the truth? So we gave them some questions that we thought would be helpful. When we arrived at the studios we were told that this man had been flown directly in to Birmingham and that we would not be able to meet him because they wanted it to be an absolutely first-time contact on air. As we came on air they panned to the studio audience, and this man described what he'd seen, live on TV.

JK: What exactly did he say?

CA: That he'd been out studying foxes in Scotland, and that one of the foxes on this particular night had refused to follow its regular path which, he explained, was not consistent with the usual behaviour of foxes. I don't know if this is right or not, but it sounded plausible. The fox apparently refused to go any further and instead went back the way it had come. The man then apparently heard some rustling, and then he described the way this circle formed. What he was saying is that the fox had presumably sensed something strange and that after it had scampered off he witnessed the formation of this circle. But the point is that his live TV appearance seemed to legitimize him.

JK: You think this was his way of becoming accepted on the crop circle scene?

CA: Right. From that moment on his being seen in the presence of the crop circle researchers - myself and Pat in particular - became acceptable. It was his 'way in', so to speak.

JK: So what happened next?

CA: Well, some weeks later there was a rap on my door, and when I answered it I immediately recognized the man standing there. It was the 'fox-study' man. He said that he'd come to tell me something ... he wanted me to get Pat Delgado over to my place because he wanted to talk to both of us.

Pat lived about seventeen miles away. It was late at night but I phoned him and he agreed to come over. When he arrived the man spent all evening into the early hours with both of us, asking question after question. He appeared to be comparing the answers I gave against those that Pat gave. Well, perhaps not surprisingly, Pat eventually grew more and more frustrated, and said to the man: 'Look, exactly what have you come to tell us?' But the man just shook his head, as if to say: 'I'm not ready to tell you yet.' So Pat just stood up and said something like: 'Well, I've got better things to do with my time,' and headed out the door and went home. He was very angry.

The guy accompanied me to the door to see Pat out (I didn't know whether he was going to leave as well - I was rather hoping he would, because I was pretty bloody angry about it, too) but as Pat left and I closed the door the man just spun round on me and said: 'Get your jacket on. I want to tell you something.'

So against my better judgment I went through into the front room and told my wife I was popping out for a few minutes (I wanted to tell her so she didn't become worried). We then went out.

JK: Where did you go at that time of night?

CA: We wandered down towards Andover town centre, then back up Salisbury Road, back and forth, back and forth, questions and more questions, most of a fairly general nature, but none of the questions were about me. Rather they were to do with things like, you know: Where were the circles? Who were we in touch with? What did we know, particularly about the Russians? That kind of thing. He was asking every question you could possibly think of that an intelligence agent would probably ask. But the conversation wasn't going anywhere at all. As for myself I was furious, but I didn't quite have the courage to walk away.

JK: But presumably at some point he told you what it was he'd come to tell you?

CA: Yes. When we eventually started to walk back towards my home he stopped on the pavement and said: 'You are now one of us.' So I said: 'What do you mean by that?' He said, simply: 'CIA.' When I asked him for ID he just laughed and said: 'You really think a CIA agent would carry identification?' And then he laughed again.

He told me I would never see his boss, and that he never saw his boss's boss. He said that was the way it worked. He said that from here on in I was 'one of them'. He gave me no say in the matter whatever. He never asked me if I wanted to be associated with the CIA - he just told me that from then on I was to consider myself one of them.

Following this he named a lot of people - most of whom were my colleagues in crop circle research - who were to be eliminated from the research programme (he did not mean that they were to be killed or anything quite like that, but they were nevertheless to be taken off the stage, so to speak). And they have been. I have watched the process in operation for some years now - a process he openly told me about on that night. And every name he named that night has since been 'got at', and everything that he said would happen has happened.

JK: Could you give us an example?

CA: Well, for instance, the following year Terence Meaden was never out of the newspapers. Nobody else could get a look in. This is exactly what he told me would happen. But where is Terence Meaden now? Who knows what Terence Meaden's latest ideas are? Answer: no one. Because, presumably, his stage has been taken from him - he's been 'taken out'. Pat Delgado was next, and we all know what happened to him.

[Author's note: sadly, Pat Delgado was so taken in by the 'Doug And Dave' episode, and so distraught because of it, that he retired from crop circle research soon thereafter.]

JK: Do you think there was a reason why you weren't 'taken out', too? Did this man indicate why you should be singled out from the rest?

CA: He did, yes. The CIA guy told me that, so far as they were concerned, I seemed to have a particular affinity and contact with the public. 'You have a way,' is what he said. The public identify with you.'

JK: And at the time, of course, you were getting a lot of media coverage.

CA: Yes, I was. There were really only two people in those days, Pat and myself. We'd written a book and it had sold a lot of copies. We were getting a lot of TV and radio coverage. But a decision seemed to be made that night that I was the one. I mean, if you look at it logically, it could have been either one of us. So this man must have been in a position to make a decision. He must have carried some authority within his agency.

JK: Right.

CA: So he chose me to go with this 'role' ...

JK: And what was this 'role'?

CA: Once they had taken these other researchers out of the frame, so to speak, they wanted me to do something for them. He said I was to carry on being Colin Andrews, researching the phenomenon, just doing my thing, and at some point in the near future I would be asked to do one interview which would enjoy maximum, saturated media coverage. During the course of this interview I was to make one statement, and one statement only.

They wanted me to state publicly that the crop circle phenomenon was a hoax. When we got back to my home he said that he would show me how to say it and what to say. In return for this I was offered a bank account in Switzerland, in which would be enough money that I would never need to even think about money ever again. On top of this he said that they were in possession of some kind of 'instrument' which they would send to me within two weeks. He said that this instrument would allow me to identify immediately a real crop circle from a hoax - something that, presumably, could measure some or other microwave residue, or some other residual effect. He told me: 'You will then be in a privileged position, and we will put you right out there as the number one crop circle expert.' He then said that they would send me to a certain college. . . (which I know to be a government establishment, so my ears pricked up at this point). . . where you will be familiarized with coding structures. I mean, this is an absolute bloody horror story I'm hearing ... I mean, I was . . . God, no one will ever know how I felt that night. I was terrified. I even cried. I was completely and utterly bloody freaked. I even saw my daughter the next day and I broke down while I was talking to her, too. I said to her: 'Darling, I want you to forget everything I've ever told you about crop circles. I think I'm in terrible trouble. You know, I'm in bloody trouble.' Of course, she didn't know what I was talking about but I just wanted my family out of it. It took everything I knew to get over that ordeal and carry on a relatively normal life . . .

(At this point Colin took a few moments to himself. It was obvious that the ordeal had affected him very deeply - indeed, that the memory was as painful as the ordeal itself. A short while later we resumed.)

CA: ... So anyway ... I was told that there would be another couple of contacts made and that these would be 'voice-only' contacts via the telephone. And sure enough they phoned me, but by this time I'd had time to think about the situation and I'd decided I was going to take his head off, you know. There was no way I was going to give them what they wanted.

JK: So what did you do?

CA: I was given a contact number at the Ministry of Defence and I rang that number and told them that I'd had this approach, but I was told they had no jurisdiction. Can you believe that? A British subject was being harassed by a member of US Intelligence and the MoD had no jurisdiction to protect me! My God! I mean, it really made me ashamed to be British. Anyway, they also told me that I was not to be concerned, that I should simply refuse to cooperate with them. They said that if I refused to go along with it there should not be any danger to me. Hah! I thought: Thanks for the invaluable assistance!'

JK: And is that what you did?

CA: In the event, yes. That's precisely what I did. I literally ignored the phone calls. And I guess, in retrospect, it might just have saved my life, the fact that I'd contacted the MoD. Perhaps they have a little more jurisdiction than they admitted to. Perhaps the fact that I contacted the MoD meant that the CIA dared not harm me in any way.

JK: So how did you know which calls to ignore? How did you know it was them?

CA: Oh, it was them, all right. The guy was on the answer machine saying: 'Pick up the phone. Pick up the phone.' But I didn't. I just let it go. Then the voice said: 'Ring me back at this number.' And then they gave a number, but I didn't ring back. A few days later they phoned again, and this time what they said was vile, and frightening. But my answer was: 'Sorry, I'm not playing.' And that was that so far as I was concerned. Like I said, perhaps they knew I'd contacted the MoD. Maybe, just maybe, this was enough for them to leave me alone.

JK: Have you had similar approaches since you moved to America?

CA: Well, nothing quite like that. But I have certainly been approached, yes. A computer analyst at the Pentagon, for example, approached me with a person called [name deleted] Pretty soon this woman, [name deleted], sought [name deleted] out and asked to see her in her office. Now this meant that my new office - which I used to share with [name deleted] - had already been infiltrated by people who we now know for sure were CIA. I have since had several approaches by both of these people.

JK: Sounds like someone was pretty desperate to gain access to your database.

CA: Absolutely. That's the only possible answer. Well, I know that's what it was all about. They told me so. For instance, [name deleted], who is an author in the US, offered that I should co-author a book with her and she went to every extreme in order to get me to agree. She wanted to work with me on the project in my office here in Connecticut, which of course would have allowed her unlimited access to my database. But again, I turned the offer down.

JK: Well, thank you for being so frank, Colin. I'm sure you've opened a lot of people's minds about the ways in which the world's intelligence agencies work and about just how seriously they view the UFO and crop circle phenomena. Thanks once again.

CA: My pleasure.

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WHAT HAPPENED TO COLIN

They got to him. Colin Andrews was taken out of the Crop Pattern scene. All of us in the Wiltshire area of southern England knew that ET was making the original Crop Patterns and, at the end of the 1980s, even though Colin was being very scientifically cautious, we knew that he knew too - and we were just waiting for him to reveal to the world the immediate presence of ET in and around the Earth - everywhere. They must have found some way to get to Colin.

In the mid 1990s, it was revealed that Colin had suddenly started working for a Rockefeller foundation and had been given a vast fund and/or salary. Colin was a man of principle - that is why we all liked him so much. Obviously they found a way to coerce Colin to keep quiet about the ET connection. Colin travelled to the USA a lot. Perhaps it was during one of these USA visits. Colin had to be silenced. 100s of millions of people worldwide had become interested in the 'out-of-this-world' Crop Patterns - they were not going to waste 50 years concerted effort to confuse us about the reality we live in, to let just one single man change the course of history.

From: Karen Seay <dawntreader@hwcn.org>

Date: Mon Aug 20, 2001 9:02 pm

Subject: Re: [ufos-unbound] The CIA, Colin Andrews, and The Crop Circles

Re Colin Andrews

He is on the CD of UFO's for sale at the moment from http://4dreamland.com or try www.dreamland.com so "reports of (his defection) may be grossly exaggerated" ks

Date: Sat Aug 25, 2001 8:49 pm

NOTE: links below can be accessed only by paying $$$ to the sites

Subject:  Colin Adrews

Date: 8/25/01 1:17:49 AM Mountain Daylight Time

From: earthchanges@earthlink.net (Mitch Battros)

Regarding the crop circle news released by ECTV back on August 15th, it is believed to be most likely a hoax. See full story at: http://www.earthchangestv.com/secure/Breaking_News/August2001/0815england.htm

I will have Colin Andrews on the show 'live' September 6th. Colin Andrews is by far the most renowned and respected researcher in the field of crop circles. Colin Andrews:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/CPRI/cpri96.html

Colin Andrews believes most crop circles are nothing less than a hoax. The ones that may not be, are most likely related to "magnetics" http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/CPRI/magnetic2000.html

NOTE: The earthchangestv.com link is only available with the payment of $$$

Here is Colin Andrews Statement again:

FORMAL STATEMENT BY COLIN ANDREWS.

FINDINGS OF A MAGNETIC SIGNATURE IN SOME CROP CIRCLES.

AN ESTIMATED 20% OF CROP CIRCLES SHOW NO EVIDENCE OF BEING MADE BY PEOPLE, WHILE 80% DO.

On Wednesday the 9th of August, I announced on national television and radio the outcome of an ongoing investigation into aspects of the crop circle mystery.

Four years ago I began measuring the Earth's magnetic field in and around crop circles. The project was initiated by on-going reports of anomalous magnetic phenomena such as spinning compass needles inside crop circles (witnessed by me amongst others during the 1980's), unusual failures of electronic equipment and radio frequency interference. The project enlarged findings of a German- based study conducted in the early 1990's.

The magnetometer survey included complex crop patterns as well as simple circles. Results showed a descriptive magnetic signature in a hand full of simple circles and basic geometric patterns. This signature consists of an increased magnetic reading which replicates the actual design of the crop pattern being measured, but occurs out of sync with the design by 3-5 degrees in a clockwise direction.

These findings may prove to be the basis of a natural mechanism involved in the creation of the formations or it may be a residual magnetic effect resulting from the creation of the crop circle. The model I have been developing, and will be collaborating on with further scientific input, is that the magnetic flux involved creates an electric current which effects the plants. The question of what causes the magnetic flux still remains.

A full technical paper of my findings and developing theory are being prepared.

THE LEVEL OF MAN MADE CREATIONS.

For a number of years I have been aware of a growing level of man-made creations.

During the mid-1990's I was shown privileged information by a BBC journalist who had gone undercover for two years working closely with Dave Chorley and Doug Bowers in an effort to establish the truth behind their claims to be making crop circles.

I was shown letters mailed by Doug &Dave where they drew the patterns that they planned to make in Hampshire and Wiltshire, along with the dates and places that they planned to make them. On the envelopes of some of the letters they sketched the planned design and placed the stamp over it, which was then date-stamped by the Royal Mail. Those patterns did appear, as had been proclaimed. Unknown to Doug and Dave, they were being filmed as they made the circles by the BBC journalist.

In ensuing weeks, other hoaxers were tracked and their handy-work also filmed. I did not want to believe the evidence being handed me, as others now do not want to believe me. To satisfy my own need for honest research, I began my own investigation into human involvement. I would suggest that anyone who disagrees with my conclusion, investigates hoaxing themselves, rather than falling back on the argument that it can't be done by humans.

In 1997, I was given a video of a formation at Oliver's Castle being made by balls of light. Although I wanted to believe it was real, things weren't adding up and I hired a private detective to unravel the loose ends. The investigation turned up irrefutable evidence that the video and the formation were hoaxes. Peter Sorenson, acting on his own information, came to the same conclusion. During 1999 I began another special project into people making crop circles. My research has included detective work, site inspections, physical evidence, aerial photography, personal experiences, information from media who have paid to have formations created for upcoming programs, and from undercover researchers.

My findings at this time are that ample evidence exists that an estimated 80% of crop circles are man-made. On the other hand, 20% revealed no evidence of human involvement. A handful of these 20% also displayed the newly discovered magnetic profile (all these were simple formations).

Some of the filmed evidence will be seen in an upcoming Channel Four production and a BBC documentary scheduled for early next year. The latter will also be shown on BBC2 and American TV.

It should be emphasized that NO EVIDENCE of human involvement could be found in 20% of the formations. All investigation has been done on crop circles in the UK and therefore, the results refer only to the situation in the UK.

Since making my announcement last week, a great deal of excitement and interest has been generated from scientists in several countries. I have already accepted an invitation to present my findings in Moscow next March.

Why did I make the announcement now?

I have received criticism from the crop circle community for releasing this information before scientific input into my magnetic results. I did this to give the research community an opportunity to know about it and to provide feedback. However, the primary reason for the announcement was due to the responsibility I feel for having been the largest worldwide voice spreading information for the past 17 years. The subject has been presented to and impacted governments, scientists, the British Royal Family, Indigenous people in many countries, individual seekers of truth and even religions. With this type of impact, truthfulness with self and others is paramount for all researchers. Unfortunately, more and more there has been a tendency for researchers to promote all crop patterns as being genuine. I have evidence that this is false and I must provide it. The full article of evidence is being prepared for release in the fall. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to enter their own evidence into the debate. I would be very happy to say I am wrong.

I believe these findings will allow a breath of honest, fresh air to blow through this subject and will be appreciated by the public in return. The scientific community has already shown how much they appreciate an honest picture by the many e-mails and letters I have received from scientists around the world. We all should feel more comfortable exposing the man-made crop designs for what they are - hoaxes and/or works of art.

I have no axe to grind with anybody. I set out to research crop circles 17 years ago, this week has been a very exciting one revealing more directions to investigate with more interest than at any time in the past several years.

For those who have listened with an open mind, even if my views do not agree with yours - thank you.

Colin Andrews

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Sun Sep 2, 2001 6:28 am

Subject: Re: [SO] Mel Gibson Crop Circle Movie

Date: 9/1/2001 7:00:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time

From: endsecrecy2@xxx (Remy Chevalier)

To: skyopen@yahoogroups.com

From: http://www.upcomingmovies.com/signs.html

Signs

Release Date: TBA 2002

Distributor: Touchstone Pictures (Disney)

Production Company: Note: Spyglass Entertainment produced Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense, but aren't handling this.

Cast: Mel Gibson; other cast not announced yet.

Cast Note: (8/30/01) Mark Ruffalo had been cast as the second lead, but has had to drop out due to an ear operation to remove an inner ear cyst. The role will be recast shortly.

Director: M. Night Shyamalan (Unbreakable, The Sixth Sense, Wide Awake, Praying with Anger)

Screenwriter: M. Night Shyamalan (in addition to writing the above films, he also cowrote Stuart Little)

Based upon: The modern phenomenon known as "crop circles", most common in England, where mysterious patterns are found in remote fields; depending upon whom you ask, they're either elaborate hoaxes or messages from UFO's.

Premise: A farmer (Gibson; in talks) in Bucks County, PA, near Philadelphia, becomes a media sensation when strange 500-foot crop circles begin appearing in his fields...

Filming: Production is scheduled to start in the Philadelphia area (especially Bucks County, of course) in October, 2001. (note: according to a recent, 8/30/01, report at Corona, some filming has possibly already happened.)

Genres: Supernatural, Thriller

Greg's Preview Thoughts: (5/7/01) After establishing a reputation and following with the ghosts of The Sixth Sense, M. Night Shyamalan took on superheroes with Unbreakable, and is now apparently addressing the UFO phenomenon with Signs (other unexplained subjects I expect from him someday: Bigfoot, the Bermuda Triangle, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and why there is no J Street in Washington, D.C.). Like both of his previous films of a spooky nature, Shyamalan is likely to continue to be tight about the specifics of this film, although revealing that it's about crop circles is already more than we knew about Unbreakable this far ahead of its production.

It's interesting to note that there is another UFO-related movie on the way, The Mothman Prophecies, starring Richard Gere, which also was filmed in rural PA.

From:

http://www.fgk.org/01/movie/index_d.shtml

Walt Disney/Mel Gibson - Crop Circle Movie

A message from David Kingston and a comment by Colin Andrews

(Letzes Update: Sunday, 20-May-2001)

Mel Gibson is mulling an offer from the Walt Disney Co. to star in M. Night Shymalan's supernatural thriller "Signs," which begins shooting in the fall.

The plot for the film is being kept closely under wraps, but it is known to revolve around the mysterious appearances of crop circles on a family farm in Pennsylvania.

Disney picked up the project last month in a multimillion-dollar pre-emptive bid. Gibson, repped by ICM, is shooting Paramount Pictures' "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young," which his production company, Icon, is producing.

Kommentar von Colin Andrews:

When Pat Delgado and I wrote 'Circular Evidence' during 1989, we promised that one day the crop circles mystery would make a great movie. Well its arrived. Only pity is that while the script will no doubt evolve around some of our experiences and research findings and all the strange experiences we and others since have had, the $10,000,000 was paid in full by Disney films to the script writer only.

The story will no doubt impact many and now that we can view the whole thing as just a movie, millions will think about it for the first time and will be able to consider what is going on.

When the collective consciousness of mankind is impacted with similar thought, our future is affected by the consequences. One way or another 'The Signs' (or at least 20% of them!) really meant business when they showed up in the fields around Stonehenge those two decades and more ago.

Onward-watch out for 'The Signs'!

Colin Andrews

From:

http://www.circlemakers.org/signs.html

It's been a long time coming but Hollywood has finally smelt the coffee and decided to bankroll a blockbuster movie about the crop circle phenomenon. Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan aka M Night Shyamalan (pictured right), the writer/director behind the blockbusters "The Sixth Sense" and more recently "Unbreakable" which collectively grossed more than one billion dollars worldwide presented Disney with his new script titled "Signs" - which is centered around the crop circle mystery - on Saturday 21st April 2001 with the ink still drying. The studio bosses were so impressed with the script that they preemptively closed an eight-figure deal with Shyamalan the following Sunday morning (haven't they heard of the day of rest?) Shyamalan received $10 million upfront for Unbreakable, and it's safe to assume that "Signs" would have been bought for an equivalent - if not larger - sum. The "Unbreakable" deal, which included $5 million for his script, broke the script auction record previously held by Shane Black, who received $4 million from New Line Cinema for "The Long Kiss Goodnight."

At this stage little is know about the plot of the movie which is being closely guarded but, like "The Sixth Sense" and "Unbreakable", the film is a thriller set in Shyamalan's home state of Pennsylvania. "Signs" takes place in Bucks County and revolves around the sudden appearance of mysterious crop circles at a family's farm. Mel Gibson (pictured right) will star in "Signs" as the farmer whose land the circles appear on. Rising Hollywood star Mark Ruffalo (pictured below) has also been asked to co-star alongside Gibson. He has just completed work on "A View From the Top" alongside Gwyneth Paltrow and John Woo's new movie "Windtalkers" alongside Nicolas Cage. (Update: Ruffalo had to drop out of the project in late August 2001 due to illness.) Filming is scheduled to start in Philadelphia in mid-September with a nine-week shoot. The current estimated release date for the movie is November 2002.

This won't be the first time a crop circle has appeared in a movie. The 1999 Danish film "Mifune's Last Song" featured a crop circle but it was by no means central to the plot. Also, there have been several near misses: the directors of the 1997 feature "Contact" starring Jodie Foster collected crop circle information but decided not to use it in the final cut of the movie.

Circlemakers Doug Bower and Dave Chorley were in talks with an unnamed famous British director in the early nineties about bringing their story to the screen but the project never came to fruition. We've also been approached several times over the years by representatives of Fox and Barry Levinson asking if we would be interested in helping develop a script.

Crop circles have already made it to the small screen, beyond the numerous documentaries and news items made about them over the years, they've also been fictionalised and featured in Sci-Fi series. "The X Files" featured circles during its seventh season in an episode called 'All Things'. circlemakers.org even gets a plug in the documentation about the episode on the 'X-Files' website. (Pictured right is the 'virtual' formation that appeared in the show). Circles also featured prominently in the cult Sci-Fi series 'Dark Skies' cropping up in several episodes including the pilot 'The Awakening" - directed by Tobe Hooper of 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre Fame' -'Inhuman Nature' which ties the crop circle phenomenon into the macabre practice of cattle mutilation and in "Shades of Gray" in which some of the shows characters decide to create their very own crop circle in the hope of luring an alien spaceship to land!

So, twenty five years after the circles started appearing here in the UK, it's good to finally see a film project based around the circles get the green light.

From:

http://www.melgibsoncafe.com/

Farm college home to Gibson film

Wyatt Counts / Associate Press

Mel Gibson will star in the film "Signs" as a farmer who discovers large circles and other patterns in his fields.

Mel Gibson is playing a farmer in M. Night Shyamalan's Signs, which will be filmed outside Philadelphia starting in September. After a lengthy search of area farmland, producers have decided to film the movie at Doylestown's Delaware Valley College, a private four-year school known for its agricultural program. "Everyone knows he's coming and all the girls are waiting," said Mitzi Weikel, a student working on campus this summer. The college has signed an agreement to rent 100 acres of its cornfields through the end of the year. Filming is expected to start in September. Gibson plays a farmer who discovers large circles and other patterns in his fields. "Our biggest concern is that when they leave, they leave the fields the way they found them," said Dr. Thomas Leamer, president of the college, which locals call "the farm school." "That's part of the agreement."

From:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/intelligencerrecord/temp/crop.shtml

Bucks farm will be setting for Mel Gibson movie

By Steve Wartenberg

Staff Writer

In Bucks County.

This fall, the latest film from M. Night Shyamalan, the writer and director of "The Sixth Sense" and "Unbreakable," will be filmed right here, on a Bucks County farm, and is slated to star the hunky Mel "Braveheart" Gibson.

"Signs" is scheduled to start shooting in the fall and location scout Andrew Ullman has been scouring bucolic Bucks, looking for the perfect farm.

"He just drove up one day when I was working outside," said Bedminster's David Leopold. "He said they're looking for a farmhouse or barn where they could look out the window and see a cornfield. They were willing to replant the cornfield. It had to be big and ours wasn't big enough."

Ullman also indicated the farm he selects will be the primary location and filming could take three to five months.

Shyamalan, who lives in Montgomery County, is secretive about the plots of his films and isn't talking much about "Signs."

Indications are it's about what happens after a farmer —Gibson, with a Bucks County accent —discovers large circles and patterns in his field.

How the heck did they get there?

"(Ullman) said he's been all over the county," said another Bedminster farm owner who wanted to remain nameless. "He's visited at least 75 places and taken photographs. He's a very personable fellow, but... "He's Hollywood."

Ullman is also a little shy about returning phone calls and did not respond to messages left on his cell phone.

Then again, maybe he's under orders from Shyamalan to remain mum.

Piecing together what's going on with the filming of "Signs" is as difficult as following the plot of one of his movies.

"In my opinion," said Sharon Pinkenson, executive director of the Greater Philadelphia Film Office, "(all the secrecy) is because he tends to write movies with mysteries involved in them. It's incumbent upon him to be secretive about the project."

The film is being produced by Disney's Touchstone Pictures. His first two films have grossed a reported $900 million worldwide.

"The Sixth Sense" and "Unbreakable" were both filmed in Philadelphia and Pinkenson estimated they brought in $25 million to $50 million ”each to the local economy.

And now, some of that movie money is headed our way.

Hooray for Hollywood!

Plus, there will be a cottage industry of Gibson sightings that should keep us busy for weeks.

"(Shyamalan) has always stated," Pinkenson said, "that's he's very committed to living, working and writing in this area."

His production company is located in Conshohocken, but employees there were also not talking.

Casting has already begun, through Mike Lemon Casting.

The Philadelphia agency is looking for "A boy, 8-12, intelligent, sensitive and intuitive, for a leading role" and "A girl, 4-7, intelligent, extremely focused for a leading role."

As if all of our Bucks and Montgomery county boys and girls aren't intelligent, intuitive and focused.

Friday, June 15, 2001

From: "Atasha McMillan" <atasha@xxx>

Date: Sun Sep 23, 2001 2:47 pm

Subject: Messages in the Crop Circles

This is about the Chilbolton crop formations of August this year. They represent a new class of crop formation. This material comes from Swirled News www.swirlednews.com

THE CHILBOLTON FORMATIONS - A LAYMAN'S GUIDE - 18 Sept 2001

With all the fuss and interest in the astonishing 'face' and 'code' formations at Chilbolton, there's still some confusion over what they represent. MARTIN NOAKES presents a clear summing up and interpretation of what researchers have found so far, whilst adding his own personal views on their significanceŠ

1) WOW 2001

As most of you will now be aware, the most extraordinary crop glyphs appeared in land next to a government-run radio telescope at Chilbolton in Hampshire, August 2001.

Due to the nature of the sensitive equipment on site, it seems inconceivable that high levels of security would not be in place, including state of the art CCTV, but a contact of Colin Andrews says the fields were not covered. Researchers are trying to establish whether anyone on duty, (and it's manned 24 hours a day) saw anything. Judging by past situations, I doubt if co-operation will be forthcoming.

So, what do we actually have here? We have a definite face, and we have what appears to be a reply to a message sent on 16 November 1974, from the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico. Though it was first thought that both of these images arrived the same night, 19th August 2001, in fact workers report that the face was spotted on August 14th and that the 'code' arrived "several days" later.

2) THE FACE

The construction of the face is incredible! It's constructed using a technique called 'half tone' (this is how newspaper images are constructed), whereby varying sized circles or dots are used to make up the image. The dark areas are, in fact, the standing crop, and the light areas are the flattened crop; it's a 'negative'. The dots have been arranged in such a fashion that the 'light' appears to be coming from the top left hand corner, and the dots create the shadows, which make up the overall perceivable shape. Though the actual light was coming from the bottom right corner when Steve Alexander's much publicised picture was taken [though it has been turned upside-down to show the face - Steve was not aware that it was a face when photographing it], due to the ingenious method of design it APPEARS to be illuminated from the top left hand corner (you can see shadows on the top left of each standing dot, being cast by the dots, confirming the direction of sunlight).

According to Richard C. Hoagland, famous for his 'Martian monuments' investigations, this is "Super Sophisticated Optical Engineering, on the scale of a wheat field".

Different people have come to varying conclusions with regards to the identity of the face. Some say ET, some say the face on the Turin shroud [some say Posh Spice!], others say, and I tend to agree with them, that it represents our human ancestry, ie. the way we perhaps used to look. It would appear that the face has a protruding forehead, deeply set eye sockets, defined cheekbones, a nose and mouth.

3) THE ARECIBO MESSAGE

In 1974, the SETI project (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) decided to create a message that would be beamed out into space from Earth. Frank Drake and Carl Sagan designed a message using binary information, the language of computers. This is a series of 1's and 0's / Yes and No's / On and Offs. The design was a rectangular shape, about three times as tall as it was wide, and when all the 1's and 0's were in place it created a crude schematic diagram. It was made up of 1679 bits of information, which was the unique sum of two prime numbers multiplied. These numbers were 23 and 73. ie. 23 x 73 = 1679. The reason for this approach was to ensure that the message could only be arranged one way. The signal was beamed out into space from the famous Arecibo radio telescope towards the star cluster M13 on November 16th 1974. Why this area was chosen is not known.

The message of our original transmission, when assembled, means as follows, running from top to bottom:

ROW 1:

Numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 to establish that we work in base 10.

LINE 2:

Number Labels.

ROW 2:

Atomic Numbers for the elements = 1, 6, 7, 8, 15: Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen & Phosphorus. (These were specifically chosen, as they are the elements required for life.)

ROWS 3 & 4:

The formulas for sugars and bases for the nucleotides of DNA (on the assumption that other life would be similar to our own, and they could compare our DNA with theirs, and learn something about us).

VERTICAL LINE IN THE MIDDLE:

The number of nuclear tides in our DNA.

CURVED LINES EITHER SIDE OF THE VERTICAL LINE:

Representing the double helix of DNA.

HOMINID FIGURE:

Representing us.

TO THE RIGHT OF THIS HOMINID FIGURE: A code representing the size of us, in terms of the 1-10 at the top, and in comparison to the size of the transmitter.

LEFT OF THE HOMINID:

A binary code for the amount of people on Earth in November 1974 (Approx 4 billion).

OUR SOLAR SYSTEM (SQUARES):

The Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth (offset towards the hominid to indicate our planet), Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto.

BOTTOM SECTION:

Curved line over an 'M', this represents the Arecibo dish, where the 'M' is the reflected and beamed out radio signal, which is still the most powerful signal sent from this planet to date (20 trillion watts of power).

BOTTOM LINE:

Binary code indicating the size of the dish used to send the message.

4) THE CHILBOLTON REPLY

The crop glyph varies from the original Arecibo message in a number of ways; some of them are as follows.

ROW 1: Replicated.

LINE 1: Replicated.

ROW 2:

Contains the original elements, but has a further element added:

SILICON. It was inserted in the correct numerical order. We now know that silicon plays an important role in life. We didn't know this in 1974!

CURVED LINES EITHER SIDE OF THE VERTICAL LINE:

The DNA information is unchanged, except for the left hand side, which is suggestive of genetic modification of either 'their' (ET) genes or OURS!

HOMINID FIGURE:

The head is much larger, and the body much shorter. This is confirmed by the coded size beside it. Again, this could either be a representation of their (ET) physical attributes, OR OURS - after we were genetically upgraded, to have more intelligence?

LEFT OF THE HOMINID:

Message (planetary population) = over 4 billion. Reply = over 21 Billion.

OUR SOLAR SYSTEM (SQUARES):

The reply has three planets offset towards the hominid. One of them appears to be surrounded by four moons. There will be much more to say about this in the future.

BOTTOM LINE:

The diagram of the Arecibo dish has been changed dramatically. At this stage I feel it is impossible to correctly decode this part of the message. However, a year earlier, in the same field, and almost on the same spot, there was a formation that is clearly a detailed diagram of the transmitter section of the reply. It could be a physical machine, or something totally different. Some people are suggesting that it represents the power of thought/consciousness, and that this method of communication is instantaneous regardless of distance, and is even capable of creating the formations. I just wonder how many of the other similar looking designs represent machines / inventions / unimaginable gifts, including (I have no doubt on this one) FREE ENERGY!

Chiltbolton 2000

I have compiled the opinions and findings of a number of researchers in this article, namely Richard C. Hoagland and the team he works with, Paul Vigay, who has done an astounding job on this, as well as 'The  Circlemakers' web team, who have contributed valuable information.

My conclusion so far is that this is REAL! I also agree with the American Broadcaster Art Bell, who states that whatever else this means, he and his audience almost down to a person, feel that it means SOON - something will happen soon. Richard Hoagland thinks it means REAL SOON, before the end of the year 2001. One thing is certain, we have entered a different mode of crop formation that we can actually decode, and understand.

One last point. The Arecibo reply is linked to the massive Milk Hill formation by the fact that it has 409 circles, which is a prime number!

Whatever does or doesn't happen, I think it is now fair to assume that we are not alone, and I for one think that in August 2001, the world started on an unstoppable route of change.

NOTE: This is the original Arecibo Message:

From: www.seti.org

In 1974, the most powerful broadcast ever deliberately beamed into space was made from Puerto Rico. The broadcast formed part of the ceremonies held to mark a major upgrade to the Arecibo Radio Telescope. The transmission consisted of a simple, pictorial message, aimed at our putative cosmic companions in the globular star cluster M13. This cluster is roughly 21,000 light-years from us, near the edge of the Milky Way galaxy, and contains approximately a third of a million stars.

The broadcast was particularly powerful because it used Arecibo's megawatt transmitter attached to its 305 meter antenna. The latter concentrates the transmitter energy by beaming it into a very small patch of sky. The emission was equivalent to a 20 trillion watt omnidirectional broadcast, and would be detectable by a SETI experiment just about anywhere in the galaxy, assuming a receiving antenna similar in size to Arecibo's.

The message consists of 1679 bits, arranged into 73 lines of 23 characters per line (these are both prime numbers, and may help the aliens decode the message). The "ones" and "zeroes" were transmitted by frequency shifting at the rate of 10 bits per second. The total broadcast was less than three minutes.

A graphic showing the message is reproduced here. It consists, among other things, of the Arecibo telescope, our solar system, DNA, a stick figure of a human, and some of the biochemicals of earthly life. Although it's unlikely that this short inquiry will ever prompt a reply, the experiment was useful in getting us to think a bit about the difficulties of communicating across space, time, and a presumably wide culture gap.

Some people have wondered whether the version reproduced here isn't "backwards", since the number sequence reads from right to left. In fact, this orientation is the same as originally published in "Science" magazine. There is no "correct" orientation, of course, as there is no easy way, other than by sending a big message, to inform the extraterretrials as to what is expected. So the message has to work whether the characters are written sequentially right to left or left to right. Earthly languages include some that are written right to left, such as the Semitic languages. We also have languages written top to bottom, as in Japanese. No one notices anything special about the Arecibo message in this regard as it uses the more common convention (top to bottom).

What is important is the sequential order of the various information blocks in the message. This was made entirely clear by the order in which the characters were sent. In fact, the first characters lead to the lowest binary numbers, and on to the rest of the message. This way, no matter what orientation in used to present the constructed image, everything is presented in the correct relationship to other parts of the message.

In 1999, a private company in Texas sent their own message to the stars. There project was dubbed, Encounter 2001.

From: dee777@aol.com

Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:59 am

Subject: Re: Colin Andrews appears on The Sally Show - "We are looking at our future....

In a message dated 2/15/2002 9:47:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, JMason4557 writes:

Now posted on The Crop Circle Information web site: www.CropCircleInfo.com

Go directly to see what Colin Andrews and Tim Carson told The Sally Show audience. This popular TV chat show will be seen in many countries within the next two weeks:

http://www.memorologyllc.com/CropCircleInfo/TheSallyShow1.htm

Colin’s appearance on the popular US national chat program

‘The Sally Show’ – hosted by Sally Jessy Raphael in New York.

(11 February 2002)

Colin and English farmer Tim Carson appeared on the popular US chat program, ‘The Sally Show’. Sally Jessy Raphael hosted the program from television studios in New York.

Colin Andrews with Tim Carson during the show with host Sally Jessy Raphael

Copyright – Jim Kelly, The Sally Show 2002

Tim Carson explained when he first saw a crop circle on his farm during the summer of 1990. He was on his way to an Agriculture show and was leaving his farm climbing a hill on a nearby country road. He was startled to see a huge pattern across his field (Type # 34) and has since seen at least another 80. He told Sally that he telephoned the National Farmers Union (NFU) in London and they gave him the telephone number of an expert who was studying them (Colin Andrews). Colin had attended meetings with the NFU and had asked them for contact with farmers who reported finding these strange circles in their fields.

Sally asked Tim what he thought about the crop circles and what he felt when he went into the field to see his own on that occasion. Tim described how the plants were undamaged and the soil undisturbed as if the plants had been carved into shapes without anything touching them. Sally said that surely someone would have seen them formed before now especially in fields where they appeared so regularly – but nobody does, Tim said.

Jenny asked Colin to talk the audience through the incredible photographs and video being shown on the studio monitors. The photographs included two of the amazing patterns which appeared next to a radio telescope at Chilbolton, England during last summer and were taken by researcher Busty Taylor. The video showed a strange sphere over Tim’s field some years ago with British Army Helicopters hovering just feet away and observing what was going on. This incredible film has been shown on numerous television programs around the world. Colin told Sally that this was not the only video and far from the only report of this object in the Alton Barnes area, near Stonehenge, Wiltshire England.

Sally asked “So what are they then, what do they mean” ? Colin replied that there are many fakes made by people, there is however a large and real phenomenon also. “The full explanation is too complex to state in the time I have, but in brief they contain information which is as much about our past as our future. There are subtle nudges, tweaks you might say, to our consciousness. The information gives us vital building blocks, which will help with changing our attitudes and actions towards life on our planet. You could say we are looking at our future and as long as we are open to that idea, it will take us to a new place”.

The program was shared with Psychiatrist, Dr. Brian Weiss M.D. and promises to be a show different to any in the long running Sally Show series. It has been slated as the big show of 2002 and is to be broadcast across the USA within the next three weeks and internationally soon after.

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Thousands of crop circle enthusiasts flocked to the tiny Wiltshire village of Alton Barnes to inspect the 130-yard-long pictogram that appeared in farmer Tim Carson's wheatfield on July 12, 1990. Some hailed the massive group of circles and claw-like appendages as "A message from beyond". One sympathetic writer called it a "temple in the cornfields".

This  crop glyph was the first one to prove that 'wind' vortexes did not cause crop glyphs

Note from the Editor:

In the video Cropcircle Communique/ Investigating the Mystery of the Crop Circles, put out by 'Circlevison', 1991, Colin Andrews states:  In oil seed rape plants, when mature are about 2 metres height and about 1 inch across. It's impossible to bend it beyond 45 degrees without it snaps off like celery and when this phenomena occurs in those plants the very beautiful delicate flowers - the flowers remian in place, the plants are bent, absolutely at right angles and there is not a botanist - an expert in the great knowledge of plants anywhere in the owrld yet, who can tell us what energies could possibly replicate that effect.

Google Search for Crop Circles in Oilseed Rape

Colin Andrews - 1998 Magnetic Survey

Scientific Analysis of the Crop taken from Crop Circles

Colin Andrews crew photographs balls of light forming Crop Circle

Colin Andrews - Google Search

Joe Mason's Crop Circle Database

Dee Finney UFO Database

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