**99.55.1 Re: MetPhys- Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (CodeUFO)**

From: CodeUFO@aol.com

Subject: Re: Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (CodeUFO)

Date: 03/28/02

In a message dated 3/26/02 4:08:25 PM, MetPhys writes:

<< This (jpg) is Leedskalnin's Machine found at Coral Castle. If I am not blind, are there symbols in vertical columns on the inside of the core? I see a forward 2, a backward 2, a 5, a triangle, V's, A's, a C, possible K and a possible Z. >>

I agree, they do look like symbols.

<< 1. There are 24 outer "bulk magnets" on the mechanism, for lack of a better word. >>

That's what I count, also.

<< 2. These 24 seem to have 4 placed in a quadrant-cross (+) from each other. >>

It looks that way, although I'm not sure they were necessarily placed that way by intention. In other words, they may just happen to line up that way. Hard to say. I don't know. If you look at the illustration attached, you'll see I think the "quadrants" (assuming we're both talking about the same thing) are the perimeter of a "camshaft" design. If this is a cam unit of some kind then the part housing the upright shaft is constructed so that it traces a "clover leaf" pattern as the whole central mechanism rotates. I've included what I propose may be a missing part: a small wheel which rides along the inner wall of the "clover leaf". Although now, upon a second look, I see the probosed wheel couldn't traverse smoothly over the slight obstruction at the "seams" between each quadrant on the inner wall of the clover leaf. Man, I don't know. I'm just guessing at all of this, trying to figure out how the machine might function.

<< 3. There are 13 units from one side to its opposite side, the 13th being directly opposite the 1st. >>

So it seems, yes. Hmm... I wonder if the quadrants represent the 4 cardinal directions?

<< 4. There are 5 units between any of the 4 quadrants. >>

Yup.

<< 5. By best estimate, there seem to be 12 vertical columns of symbols in a half circle. This leads to 24 around the inner surface, yet these vertical symbol columns, in at least one confirmed case, DO NOT match the outer "bulk magnets". >>

I see what you mean. But see my next comment. It may explain why the columns of symbols don't seem to match up precisely with the bulk magnets.

<< 6. If we multiply 24 columns x 6 per column = 144 symbols!!! >>

Nice number! But maybe not correct? Again I don't know, but it also looks possible that there are only five columns of symbols per quadrant ( see diagram attached ). This would be one column of symbols for each of the 5 magnet units around the outer casing. Notice toward the back of the machine, there is a space right in the center where there is no column of symbols. That space is directly in line with the seam dividing the quadrants. I think that may be the case at each of the four seams, leaving the possibility that there is one column for each of the 5 bulk magnets within each quadrant area.

<< 7. In an experiment by an independent scientific type who visited Coral Castle, said, upon bringing a small magnet over each outer "bulk magnet" that "it seemed to produce an alternate plus / minus effect as I passed it over each one". >>

It also appears that each "bulk magnet" is divided in half, vertically, and in fifths, horizontally.

While one of the columns of appears to be comprised of 6 symbols, it looks as if it's possible that the other columns are comprised of 5 symbols. Just wondering if each symbol in a column corresponds with each layer in the magnets?

Notice the small "unit" attached to the right side (as we look at the picture) of the central unit of the machine. It looks as if a similar type of small unit might be missing from the front of the central unit (as we look at the picture). It appears that 3 such small units could be attached around the central unit. Two of them might either be missing or perhaps only one is used at a time.

If the small unit is, as I've suggested (a wild guess), a "symbol reader", and if the central unit rotates, then it might mean that the symbols are read horizontally around the inner wall of the machine. If the central unit is also capable of moving up and down as it rotates, then it could read any of the five levels of symbols as it rotates. This might have something to do with the five levels of magnets. Of course, this idea would suggest that an electronic computer or some sort of electronic or laser sensing device was employed. Where would Leedskalnin get such sophisticated equipment, especially during his time?

Also, I see there is a "gear plate" bolted to the flat surface of the machine. If some other gear engaged with this one it might mean that while the outer portion of the machine was turning in one direction, the inner central unit might be rotating in the opposite direction. If there is something magnetic about the central unit, then the counter rotating magnetic field effect might be at play.

I'm also wondering now if those "bulk magnets" may not be solid units at all. Perhaps each of those 5 layers of magnets are separate, each layer attached to a separate plate (not visible in this photo). If so, perhaps each of those five plates might rotate separately, perhaps in tandem or perhaps in opposite directions, or perhaps only one or any given number of plates could be made to rotate, depending on what was required for the task at hand. If that were the case, this would lend support to the idea that each layer of magnets corresponds in some way with each layer of symbols.

Just some wild speculating. What do you think?

Thanks for sending this photo! Do you know who sent this to Art? I wonder if there are any other photos of the machine or any information about it anywhere?

Have you sent this to anyone else? It might be interesting to get some feedback from others on this. Thanks again for sending it.

-Gary-

**99.55.2 Re: MetPhys- Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (CodeUFO)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (MetPhys)

Date: 03/28/02

I'm going to make a guess right away and get it out of the way:

Postulate #1:

The roller travels upon the flat "clover leaf" ring. Assuming the center hardware is used for nothing more than for the helical gear on the center vertical shaft such as might be found in an automobile distributor, as it appears to be, we might conclude that, as the roller begins its revolution from the quadrant probosed "corner", the motion over the flat, curved "clover leaf" surface transfers down the roller shaft and into the horizontal flat iron which has 45 degree gear teeth on it, which interacts with a helical gear, at 45 degrees, on the center vertical shaft, to push the "symbol reader" up and down over the 5 vertical columns of 5 (or 6) symbol groups of 4 total groups in 4 quadrants. This path from quadrant node to quadrant node (1/4 circle) should be shaped like a half sinewave (upper half) tracing a path that is "exactly" like the paths of the rollers over the surface of the rings of Searl's 3-ring levitating machine, if a point on Searl's rollers are traced.

In effect, the machine, as postulated here, may be tracing a sinewave path over a magic square of sorts, of a 5 x 5 nature. Possibly a 6 x 6 nature.

Back to you.

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.3 Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (MetPhys)

Date: 03/28/02

Gary,

<< I see a forward 2, a backward 2, a 5, a triangle, V's, A's, a C, possible K and a possible Z. >>

Assuming symbols plus technical symbol reader equipment seems out of character with Ed. L. doesn't it? Ed was simple. Ed was very simple. Ed thinks "magnets right? He says, "I need something... anything... made of metal to connect the inner surface to the magnets, so he grabs a chisel shaft and cements it in, then a Z shaped iron, and a A shaped iron and a nail and a triangle shaped iron laying around and cements them all into place.

<< 1. There are 24 outer "bulk magnets" on the mechanism, for lack of a better word. >>

How about eliminating complicated equipment for now ok? Lets put ourselves in Ed's place. He says to himself, "I wanted 24 magnets around a ring but the store only sells these thin, long magnets". So Ed goes out and buys 10 x 24 = 240 long bar magnets with + on one end and - on the other, for 4 cents each. 240 is a good number also because there are 260 bactun in a 13 x 20 Mayan Tzolkin Calendar Magic Square (**Correction**: 260 bactun but 240 is valid in another way. 03/29/02) ...but that may be stretching it. In fact this arrangement of 4 quadrants of 24 magnet stacks may represent a stretched out Tzolkin, perhaps, perhaps not. At least it sounds plausible until it can be explored more.

Gary's objection: " I see the probosed wheel couldn't traverse smoothly over the slight obstruction at the "seams" between each quadrant on the inner wall of the clover leaf."

Does it make sense that since there is only one rotating vertical shaft around the "clover leaf" path, we can safely assume the roller on the single vertical shaft traveled all the way around 360 degrees and over each probose joint? I say this because, even though the quadrant joints are a little rough, the square-headed bolts keeping the clover leaf in place is on the "outside" of each joint. Agreed?

This brings us to the question, "Did simple Ed.L. turn it by hand or did a motor powered by a battery turn the center vertical shaft?" If Ed had to be elsewhere using the special magnetism and special electricity this machine produced, he used a motor. And that motor was possible and probably driving the ring gear above the 24 magnet stacks, or as you call it, the "gear plate". This would leave the center mechanism fixed so the electrical wire coming from the vertical shaft that has the roller on it, that moves over the rotating "clover leafs", wont get twisted up and break. So under this assumption, the center does not move and the assembly rotates around the center.

Gary's note: "Notice the small "unit" attached to the right side". This is the "symbol reader" which symbols we might, for now, assume to be any junk part Ed had laying around to (connect the inner to the outer magnets- **Correction**: to read the symbol position. 03/29/02). The "symbol reader" may be a simple electrical sensor pickup as it passes over each appropriate magnet end by way of sensing the connecting symbol (junk part) as it moved up and down, caused by the "clover leaf" mechanism, to read certain sinewave magic squares of the inner 5 x 5 matrix, connected to the magnets. Now the interaction of electricity and magnetism produces what? A field. This is a special kind of field because simple Ed.L. is using the Sacred Geometry of the Magic Square of order-5 (5 x 5, can you say grek-5? Just a thought).

Gary's postulate: "If there is something magnetic about the central unit, then the counter rotating magnetic field effect might be at play."

If the electric wire is coming out of the central unit, its a good chance that the central "symbol reader" is electric interacting with the outer magnets. Electric and magnetic..That's all simple Ed needed?

My main question at this time is, "What configuration were the + and - poles of the magnet stacks arranged in to give an ALTERNATING pattern to the electric "symbol reader" magic-square-tracing-pickup, as confirmed by the independent visitor who passed his magnets over the machine.

Remember the mechanical "clover leaf" is causing the electric 'symbol reader" on the inside, to move across these magnet faces in a sinusoidal way, across a magic square (5 x 5), from bottom-left, up a curve, then it flattens out a little and travels left to right across the top and then goes back down on the right, over this 5 x 5 group of inner "symbols", the same way the "clover leaf" is shaped...slightly flattened. Remember also, that the inner magnet poles are opposite the outer poles.

(1) Looking at the magnet stacks from the outside, were the magnets stacked:

5 x 5 Magic Square magnets:

+- +- +- +- +-

-+ -+ -+ -+ -+

+- +- +- +- +-

-+ -+ -+ -+ -+

+- +- +- +- +-

(2) Or were the magnets stacked:

5 x 5 Magic Square magnets:

+- -+ +- -+ +-

-+ +- -+ +- -+

+- -+ +- -+ +-

-+ +- -+ +- -+

+- -+ +- -+ +-

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.4 Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine (MetPhys)

Date: 03/28/02

Gary,

I think my assumption that the inner "symbols" and the magnets are connected with junk parts is wrong because why would simple Ed.L. use them when he could have easily pushed the magnet stacks closer to the center in a more convenient and orderly manner without the use of connecting junk parts? There seems to be room enough to push the stacks in closer to the center.

This leads me to believe that the inner "symbols" connect to the magnet stacks, inside the concrete, in two or more ways, according to the "proper" magic square order. To find what this might be, will necessitate the removal of the concrete to find out how this is done or we may never know until we understand how magic squares of Searl operate. I have a few ideas here but will save it for later.

What do you think?

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.5 Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine- 5 x 5 Pan Magic Square (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Corrected: Leedskalnin's Machine- 5 x 5 Pan Magic Square (MetPhys)

Date: 03/28/02

Make Your Own 5x5 Magic Square

Gary,

I began with a 5 x 5 magic square grid of 25 squares.

The X's are the missing, unknown numbers at this time.

Use the above generator to find those numbers, if possible.

It looks like this:

X 0 5 1 X
**7** X X X **2**

1 X X X 9
**1** X X X **9**

6 X X X 5

Can you see the sinewave half-circle (6,**1**,1,**7**,0,5,1,**2**,9,**9**,5). This half-circle should be the same half-circle that Searl's rollers trace out over the rings, when the SEG is revolving.

6105195 is Leedskalnin's denominator.

7129 is Leedskalnin's numerator.

Both numbers together follow the sinewave curve that would be mechanically generated by the "symbol reader" driven by the "clover leaf" ring and roller.

MetPhys@aol.com

**Addenda**: 12/22/02 This half-sinewave is very similar to the waveform found in a later section: **99.71.10 Re: Mirror matter (Sine, Curtate or Prolate Wave?) (MetPhys)**

**99.55.6 Re: Leedskalnin- 5 x 5 pan-Magic Square (QQ!!) (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Leedskalnin- 5 x 5 pan-Magic Square (QQ!!) (MetPhys)

Date: 03/28/02

Gary,

This should stand your hair on end for a while.

Not only does the basic Graeco-Latin 5 x 5 square (grek-5?) generate a possible 28800 squares,

There are 144 pan magic squares of order five.

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.7 Re: Leedskalnin's Machine: How It May Work (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin's Machine: How It May Work (MetPhys)

Date: 03/29/02

Gary,

How does the Leedskalnin Machine work?

The following is generally what I had in mind for the Leedskalnin machine but I didn't have the electrical experience to easily put it into words. Harvey does this well and even though I can't quite get my theoretical integrated with the experimental yet, I can recognize his extensive experience with real experiments which I have followed for some time.

May I add:

"input from a 90 degree phased generator"- The Leedskalnin machine may have used the 4 "clover leaf" configuration as a 4 phase input.

"producing a DC pulse at theoretical over unity"- Overunity energy is anti-energy as in antigravity resonance. In other words it may resonate with the 4-phase inner, hidden scalar thru the 5 x 5 magic square.

"untapped high frequency processes could be made to interact to produce a more usable form of energy"- More usable meaning useful in creating high energy vortex fields around heavy blocks of magnetic atoms.

Additions in **bold** and (parentheses):

Norris: "It is my conjecture that the correct phasing of an energy input has been
entirely overlooked. The study of the nature of electrical resonance
shows a ninety degree oscillation, yet no one has considered to copy
this action of nature by using it as an **input from a 90 degree phased generator** (Leedskalnin Machine) to produce two phases of resonance; one with a full electric field drawing ZERO energy, simultaneous to one with a full magnetic field drawing FULL energy. Furthermore no one has thought to engineer a
situation where these two fields can share the same SPACE at right
angles, thereby **producing a DC pulse at theoretical over unity** from the Lorentz interaction. This method then lends itself as means to
rectify, or change AC to DC, by field interaction alone without the use
of diodes. The ramifications of this are that previously **untapped high
frequency processes could be made to interact to produce a more usable form of energy**." HDN (Harvey D. Norris)

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.8 Re: Leedskalnin's Machine- How It Works. (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin's Machine- How It Works. (MetPhys)

Date: 03/29/02

Gary,

Here is my guess as to how it worked:

"How Many 5x5 Pan-Magic Squares are there? - 28800. Two other pages
address this question. It is part of the more general question: "How
Many Pan-Magic Squares are there?" for all the Prime Number Order
Squares?", and for the order 5 square it is answered in detail with a
complete list of all 144 Order 5 Pan-Magic Squares. Each of the 144
unique squares has 25 translocations with four rotations and two
reflections, for a total of **200** x **25** x **4** x **2** = 28800 order-5 Pan-Magic Squares."

By whirling the machine thru **4** "clover leaf" phases (rotations), with **2** inverted, opposing 5 x 5 Pan-Magic Squares (reflections, 2 groups of 2), connected to **25** magnetic fields (translocations, 24 magnet stacks+1 to begin the cycle again), thru 200 permutations, the machine created two whirling, counter-rotating vortexes (**28800** double light), transmitted to the lifting site by special wire, which wire I know the composition of.

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.9 Re: Leedskalnin Machine- 200 Permutations. (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin Machine- 200 Permutations. (MetPhys)

Date: 03/29/02

Gary,

This is the 5 x 5 inner "symbols:

1 group of 4 = 25 permutations connected to 25 magnet stacks?

+- +- +- +- +-

-+ -+ -+ -+ -+

+- +- +- +- +-

-+ -+ -+ -+ -+

+- +- +- +- +-

Multiply 25 per group x 4 groups of 5 x 5 magic squares = 200 permutations.

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.10 Leedskalnin's "Generator" gif (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Leedskalnin's "Generator" gif (MetPhys)

Date: 03/31/02

Gary,

Here is a new pic of the machine showing Ed with his hand on the crank.

MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.11 Leedskalnin- 7129 : 6105195 True/False? (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Leedskalnin- 7129 : 6105195 True/False? (MetPhys)

Date: 03/31/02

(**Caution**: Some Coral Castle Forums maths may be incorrect.)

From Coral Castle Forums:

7129 : 6105195 = 0.0011.....meaning the difference- pyramid inch vs. British inch

A. The Tropical Year as 365.242 days is represented by 36524.2 Pyramid Inches

B. The Sidereal Year as 365.256 days is represented by 36525.6 Pyramid Inches

C. The Anomalistic Year as 365.259 days is represented by 36525.9
Pyramid Inches

Thus the length of the Pyramid Inch is defined and it turns out to be 1.00106 British Inches, an amazingly close correspondence to our present day standard.

The Polar Radius of the Earth If all of this seems improbable, impossible and a figment of the imagination then the introduction of the Sacred Cubit will add to the surprise. It is accepted that twenty five Pyramid Inches equals one Sacred Cubit in other words in one Sacred Cubit there are 25 Pyramid Inches. Precisely ten million Sacred Cubits equals 3949.89 statute miles and in 1957 satellite observations confirmed that the Earth's mean polar radius was the same 3949.89 statute miles. Thus the dimensions employed in the Great Pyramid are a direct function of the dimensions of the Earth to an accuracy of six digits. And this is to a standard that our current civilization could not confirm until the year 1957!

**99.55.12 Leedskalnin- Coral Castle Forums on 7129 / 6105195 (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Leedskalnin- Coral Castle Forums on 7129 / 6105195 (MetPhys)

Date: 03/31/02

(**Caution**: Some Coral Castle Forums maths may be incorrect.)

13 PostsPosted - 03/16/2002 : 18:55:24

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The 6105195 number. If you take the cosine of that number it is .707.
Ironically this is also the number used for power in electricity. The
effective power of a sine wave. That is no secret. But there are 11
number that fit in front of 7129 that also work and that is why Ed left
that space blank. With all the math that I've been doing, what I found
just blew my mind. If I'm right there should be 24 sets of four magnets
set close to 33 degrees apart (See **Correction** below). I'm still working on how to explain it to
you guys.

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13 PostsPosted - 03/16/2002 : 20:34:02

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**Correction** on last statement. 24 magnets on the fly wheel should be **15
degrees** apart, not 33 degrees apart. I will explain what the 33 degrees
is later.

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13 PostsPosted - 03/30/2002 : 18:37:07

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Alright here is what you guys have been waiting for.

Now in case any of you are not good at math here are some terms that will help in explaining what I'm about to say.

Sinewave, Vectors, squareroot, squared, reciprocals, cosine, tangent, 150,000 oscillations a second. Speed of light per sec is 300,000,000 meters.

Light harmonic is 144.

1/144 is 694.

Charlie the info you gave me will be very helpful I'm getting ready to order some stuff from coral castle.

(1) Now this next step is going to take some time if you are going to work this out.

(2) Now take 7129 and square that number. = 50822641.

(3) Take that number divide it by 6105195 = 8.324491028.

(4) Now take 7129 and put a 1 in front of the 7129.

(5) So 17129, then square that number = 293402641

(6) Now divide that number by 6105195 = 48.05786564

(7) Then 27129. Square that. 27129 squared = 735982641 and

(8) Divide that by 6105195 = 120.5502267.

(9) Now do this until you reach 117129.

(10) Now on a piece of paper which you should already have write one under the other starting with this.

The results of the --7129 numbers divided by 6105195 numbers are as follows.

8.324491028,

48.05786564,

120.5502267,

225.8015741,

363.8119074,

534.5812281,

738.1095347,

974.3968278,

1243.433107,

1545.248373,

1879.812625,

2247.135864.

(11) Now I know that there are only 360 in a circle and or sine wave but Ed
knew something by this.

(12) Now keep the 360 degrees in mind.

(13) Take the highest number the 2247.135864 and subtract the lower number from it.

(14) Ex. 2247.135864 minus 1879.812625 = 367.323239 degrees.

(15) Now take 1879.812625 minus 1545.248373 = 334.5642523 degrees and work your way down until you reach 8.324491028.

(16) The resultant numbers being subtracted should equal as follows.

367.323239,

334.5642523,

301.805266,

269.0462792,

236.2872931,

203.5283066,

170.7693207,

138.0103333,

105.2513474,

72.49236106,

39.73337461,

8.324491028.

(17) Now draw yourself a sine wave with 0 degrees and 360 degrees being one and the same.

(18) Plot the numbers I just typed on the sine wave but start with
the lowest number and go the highest.

(19) After that subtract the difference between any two degrees. Ex. 367.323239 minus 334.5642523 = 32.763239 difference.

(20) All of these numbers have almost a 33 degree difference.

(21) Now notice that the 8.324491028 degrees and 367.323239 are both above the zero line.

(22) If you take 367.323239 times pi = 1153.979989.

(23) The square root of this number is 33.97028097.

(24) Now we used 12 different --7129 numbers.

(25) If you take 367.323239 divided by 11 (because 0 degrees and 360 degrees are the same.)

(26) So (it is) not 12.

(27) It would equal 33.363636 degrees.

(28) Now the cosine of 45 degrees is .707.

(29) If you vector (which is A Squared plus B squared = the square root of C squared.)

(30) The vector of 33 degrees and 33 degrees is 46.66904756 degrees and with electronics could be modified to 45 degrees.

(31) Now watch this. Take 17129, divide it by 6105195 = .002805643
**Note**: Your calculator will get 2.805643^-3. He moved the decimal to the left three places).

(32) Now take the reciprocal of that number and it equals 356.4244848.

(32) Now if you take 356 multiplied by 367 = 130652 the square root of this is 361.458158.

(33) A 1.458158 degree difference from 360 degrees.

(34) But if you take the 367.323239 degrees and 8.324491028 the sine wave difference is just over 1 degree also.

(35) Now these numbers seem to be working around atom harmonics.

(36) But am still working on it.

(37) If you take 367 squared minus 356 squared it equals 89.17959408 degrees and some of Ed's objects had a 90 degree difference.

Oh, by the way I forgot to tell you, now we know the tilt of the earth is 23.5 degrees.

The vector of 23.5 and 23.5 equals 33.23401872 degrees so 33 degrees seems to be common factor but not the ultimate factor.

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13 PostsPosted - 03/30/2002 : 18:39:59

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P.S. The cosine of 45 degrees is .707

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MetPhys@aol.com

**99.55.13 Re: Leedskalnin's "Generator" and Tripod Methods (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin's "Generator" and Tripod Methods (MetPhys)

Date: 03/31/02

In a message dated 3/31/2 9:36:46 AM, you (Gary) wrote:

GIF: Leedskalnin cranking his "generator" by hand.

<< Cranking by hand. Hmm... Interesting. Looks like the pulley wheel above the crank mechanism says "85 TON" on the side. Wouldn't it be funny if all he used to maneuver those huge blocks of stone was a nothing more than a clever system of levers and pulleys? >>

Gary,

Perhaps Ed was not as simple as he appears. We can agree that he is having his picture taken with his machine. So Ed decides to crank it for the camera. Maybe he's just charging batteries. If so he cant go away from the machine to do anything else can he? This doesn't make sense. Ed can also buy a junkyard motor and if any motor is cranked faster than its intended RPM rating, it will act as a generator. Surely Ed could afford any motor if he wanted it? It could have been any motor.

So Ed didn't need to crank this fancy machine to generate battery voltage, but it looks like that is what he's doing...for the camera. I don't think Ed was as simple as I thought. Perhaps this machine was not intended to recharge batteries. It has too many cooincidental configurations just like Michaels ASM, or your alphanumerics or the triple letter sequences of the Torah (ELS) for examples. These cooincidences need more exploring without dismissing it just yet, dont you think so? We can't dismiss Ed's Machine, just yet, as being "just a generator or a traction motor".

<< Wouldn't it be funny if all he used to maneuver those huge blocks of stone was a nothing more than a clever system of levers and pulleys? >>

Yes it would, and there are posts at Coral Castle Forums about how simple his methods could have been.

In fact, I always wondered how Ed could have erected three telephone poles into a tripod, which picture, is in the Forum somewhere. I put some thought into it and figured out a way to do it alone if I had to. Would you like to hear how it could be done?

Lets imagine three heavy poles arrive on a truck. If the truck has sides, you hook a wire or rope to a pole and drive the truck from under them and let the truck do the work. If the truck has no sides, you roll them off, making sure you preselect nice straight poles. Now you can roll them to where they are needed. Easy work with a long pry bar, especially with a substrate of coral to dig into. Now you line the tops up nice and rope the tops together before hoisting them up. Having calculated the position of the center where you want the bottom of poles, you then calculate how far it is from the bottom to the top of the poles, taking the arch into consideration as the three poles are raised upright, together, as one big pole.

So how do you get them up? Use a winch or block and tackle and a lever pole. This lever pole holds the block and tackle rope above the horizontal poles to be lifted for leverage initially. With a block and tackle pulling in one direction, you use two stabilizer wires or ropes to connect to the top of the poles in the opposite direction as the block and tackle, then anchor the two, to some handy trees or peged into the ground. Why the stabilizer ropes? To keep the poles from falling too far toward the block and tackle. The calculated rope lengths will let the poles go upright and no farther. So you have a tripod of ropes holding up the tripod of poles now that they are upright.

Now you have to spread the pole legs out. How do you do it? If you can't pick up a pole and move the leg, use another winch or block and tackle and a convenient tree anchor or peg it to the ground. When the tripod is opened and steady, remove the ropes.

If you want to walk the tripod to a different position, use the stabilizing ropes again with enough slack to let the tripod move a little at a time. Just enough so it doesn't fall over.

It can be done by one person with some thought and some time.

How can huge blocks of coral be moved or rolled sideways or inched upward slowly or even rolled upward, on telephone pole inclined planes with winches or block and tackle? Its not as difficult as you might think.

These simple lever methods should be explored as well as the Machine of Leedskalnin.

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**99.55.14 Re: Leedskalnin's Machine and Tibetan Technology (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin's Machine and Tibetan Technology (MetPhys)

Date: 04/01/02

Gary and I (MetPhys) had previous email correspondence about his alphanumeric analysis of the letters Ed. L. and Leedskalnin's numbers 7129 / 6105195, to which I added my interpretations, below. I first compared Ed's supposed levitation with the Tibetan "levitating stones" phenomena and will reproduce that small section here. I noticed that some of the below numbers are the same as produced by the CC Forums information:

13 pairs of English alphabet letters A-Z and 13 "bulk magnet stacks of Leedskalnin's Machine in a half circle.

15 degree spacings in both cases,

12 notes / 12 mathematical iterations (CC Forums),

4 quadrants in Leedskalnin's Machine and the Levitating Disc, etc:

From Previous Email Correspondence:

"(9/29/01 Note: 13 pairs will be explained in a future File pertaining to the Sumerians base-12 as a counting system where the vibrations of the number 13 would represent an octave - the first counting unit on the
next "level," just as 10 is the next "level" of the number 1 when using
a base-10 system. The vibrations of the number 13 as an octave can be
seen on a conventional piano if you were to play a "chromatic" scale,
where you go from C to C playing both white and black keys. Each scale
will have 12 notes before resolving to the Octave on the 13th. Also, 12
fifths spans 7 octaves and requires a 13th and the phenomenon of two
different divisions of the year into two slightly different lengths of
months strikes a very close parallel with Pythagoras' comma, with its
two slightly different sets of twelve notes around the circle of an
octave. Moreover, the File will explain the 13 semi-tone seperations
pertaining to the intervals from a minor second to a major ninth, plus a
particular 53 note scale of a "double helix" in the domain of the
musical tone system...the "sharps" and "flats' furnishing helical
formations, each separately split with the Pythagorean comma (Ptolemaic
comma?). Furthermore, the 4 groups of 13 drums of the The Tibetan
Hurling Stones total 72 = MAGNETIC, the reverse of 27 used to levitate
the stones. 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees (144
- 54 = 90, the same as the sum of the ANVs of INCH and FOOT) at a
distance of 63 metres from the stone slab. 19 being the sum of
Leedskalnin's 7+1+2+9..., 63 being the reverse of 36 and 72 being the
reverse of the sum of Leedskalnin's 6+1+0+5+1+9+5 = 27.

The following is an extrapolation of the number of drums and trumpets, in the 90 degree quarter-circle (jpg), extrapolated into a complete circle (360 degrees), totalling the number of musical instruments x 4 quarters. This will give a levitating disc by way of electrically generated tones, using harmonics, or perhaps, dissonance to disturb the harmonic matter of the disc.

**Extrapolating to The Disc**

To extend to a circle, place 19 tone generators in 1 / 4 circle, giving us 19.

To extend tone generators in the next quadrant requires subtracting 1 tone from the 2nd quadrant because there are already 2 tones at each 'end' of the first quadrant. Therefore the 2nd quadrant will only require 18 tones.

The 3rd quadrant will only require 18 again.

The 4th and last quadrant will require only 17 tones because the 1st quadrant has a tone at the beginning of its quadrant, as does the 3rd quadrant at its end.

A total of 19 + 18 + 18 +17 = 72 tone generators should levitate this disc with the proper diameter.

**6 and 13**

The drum and trumpet positions can be assumed to be alternated, 13 drum tones equally interspersed with 6 trumpet tones per quadrant. This implies that a total of 13 drum tones and 6 trumpet tones must occupy each 90 degree quadrant, not quite reaching the 90 degree divisions of the circle. 13 drum tones per quadrant gives 14 spaces for 6 trumpet tones between...Beginning with the 90 degree line, a trumpet tone can be placed there, then, skipping 3 spaces, place a trumpet tone there, skipping 3 more spaces, adding another trumpet tone, giving us 6 trumpet tones per quadrant, beginning and ending exactly on the 90 quadrant lines. To extend around the circle required that 2 trumpet tones are overlapping on each quadrant line. Beginning the count several other ways by counting spaces or drum positions only gives us 7 tones per quadrant...not acceptable.

Another acceptable arrangement of trumpet tones is to divide 90 degrees by 6 tones giving the spacing of tones per quadrant, in degrees, namely, every **15 degrees**.

Having arranged our tone generators properly, and having found the proper frequencies to drive the tone generators, the disc should levitate. The proper frequencies should be Phi and its multiples operating the first and third quadrant and Phi and its multiples operating the second and forth quadrant, with control of the craft ranging from a perfectly tuned system between the two opposite quadrants or a de.tuning to a maximum of Phi (1.618) between the opposites to create the beat frequency often heard in levitating discs...the lub...lub...lub of Phi. The closer these two groups of two counter-frequencies or counter-rotating frequencies are to each other, I believe, the higher the disc should rise because the gravity field that is created around the disc cannot occupy the same gravity field that exists around the earth, therefore the earths gravity field will eject the disc out of the earths gravity field, which means it will shoot off into space. This has always been an amazing conclusion each time I arrived at it from new logical paths, because it plainly says to me that when 2 seperate gravity fields are superimposed, one upon the other, an antigravity , "repulsive" field seems to be created. In a sense, we could say that gravity is now "repulsive" instead of the customary "attractive".)"

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**99.55.15 Re: Leedskalnin "Potentialized"? (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin "Potentialized"? (MetPhys)

Date: 04/04/02

Gary,

Aside from transmitting "phase change" by wire, could it possibly be, that Leedskalnin, being the only person near his Machine, was "potentialized" by it as he stood near or in its field? Thus "rearranged" atomically, he could then influence his coral stones? I take the Leedskalnin Machine as being a section through a spherical torus, as is Searl's SEG.

Some documentation from Jerry Bayles, a researcher in his own right, commenting upon the Aquino experiment:

"I propose that what is occurring in Fran (De Aquino's) torus test is a large increase in the spin and magnetic moment uncertainty of the iron atoms. Thus, a phase change occurs related directly to the spin uncertainty of the electrons in the iron atoms. This phase change works to reduce the electrogravitational action force."

Jerry E. Bayles

http://www.electrogravity.com/Uncertainty.htm

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**99.55.16 Re: Leedskalnin's Tripod Photos (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin's Tripod Photos (MetPhys)

Date: 04/04/02

Gary,

The tripod can lift a coral stone. Tripod photos

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**99.55.17 Re: Leedskalnin and Saucer Magic Numbers (MetPhys)**

From: MetPhys@aol.com

Subject: Re: Leedskalnin and Saucer Magic Numbers (MetPhys)

Date: 04/06/02

Gary,

This is a study of the saucer pods of Bob Lazar. I'm comparing the numbers and configurations to Leedskalnin's machine. Note the highlighted numbers **5, 6, 8, 15, 18, 24** and **72**. These don't seem to be the the 5 x 5 Magic Square numbers but then again, they may be the Sacred Geometry necessary for levitation. Any thoughts on similarities?

Saucer Numbers by Jerry Bayles

"The above figure (link) dynamically illustrates the possible 3-phase type action that may occur when the waveguide fields are switched in the force-field amplifiers that hang below the center deck of Bob Lazars UFO that he worked on.

There are three of these cylinders that have **six (6) disks** each which are attached inline to each other through the cylinders. The disks have 'knobs' arranged to form a hexagon shape on the top disk and the second disk forms an octagon shape. This is repeated for the next two sets (2 to a set) of disks for a total of **six (6) disks** in 3 sets (**18 total sets**). The purpose of these pods may be waveguide horns as is explained in my thesis paper titled, "UFOPLAN1.EXE", also available on page 2 of this website free for the downloading.

A hexagon has **six (6) angles** equal to 60 degrees each while an octagon has **eight (8) angles** equal to 45 degrees each. The difference between the angles is **15 degrees**. 360 degrees (a circle) divided by 15 degrees is equal to **24** and 24 times 3, (3 = phase), is equal to **72**.

Finally, 360 divided by 72 yields **5**, the number of angles in a pentagon. The pentagon can be linked to very basic formations in nature such as the natural spiral, growth and decay rates, etc. The numbers 3, 6, 12, 24, all appear in the basic construct of the saucer as described by Bob Lazar.

This evidently is natural geometry with a very exciting and practical purpose. The purpose of all this is doubtless to provide not only a force field that is precision as to its focus ability but also to provide control by 'linking' to the standing wave field that surrounds the main body of the saucer.

It is the main field that provides the saucer with the ability to move instantly through space from one position to another as well as lift to oppose a gravitational field. This was explained in chapter 11 of my book "Electrogravitation As A Unified Field Theory", also available on page 2 of this website. Stay tuned for further info and updates."

Jerry E. Bayles.

© Copyright. Robert Grace. 2002