99.61.1 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

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From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Hi,

Don't know if this is interesting for anyone else. Maybe it's all old hat too! Anyway just enjoyed discovering some kind of opposite flow in this Tzolkin grid. Yet another invisible 4.5 point swaps over flows!!

Kin Days of the Tzolkin (JPG)

Here are a few notes to go with the grid:

This square is following the Vedic number sequence of - 1 3 5 7 9 2 4 6 8 throughout.

The second row down top left has a 2 then a 22. In effect we could look for a ‘mirror’ reply to this number in the shape of a 7 and 77. Is there one? Well there may well be. But more than that there also seems to be a deeper mirror flowing at work here. At the 17th row there are the numbers 97 and 77. If one ignores the 9 this number is a 7 and so there is a definite relationship with the number 2. It is also moving in a reverse direction to the 2 and 22. After the 22 there is a 42. This adds to 6 ( 4+2=6). In reply after the 77 there is a 57, which breaks down to 3. The 6 and 3 are mirror flow partners.

The second row continues:
62 = 8, 82 = 1, 102 = 3 , 122 = 5 etc

The 17th row replies:

37 = 1, 17 = 8 …then onto the 18th row far right 258= 6 etc These are all number sequence partners moving in contrary flow.

At this point one spots the obvious. This grid begins top left and bottom right simultaneously. The number 1 and its mirror partner the number 8, hidden in the number 260. Then there is a 21 =3 at the top left, whilst there is a 240 = 6 at the bottom right. This whole grid is moving in contrary flow. When the end of a row is reached at both ends simultaneously there is a hop up to the next level up and down and the mirror sequences continue moving in opposite directions to each other. So where do the flows meet? Do they meet or do they cross over a hidden axis point in the centre?

This is where the true cross over point occurs:

110 130 150

111 131 151

110=2 whilst 151 = 7
130 =4 whilst 131 = 5 (The 4.5 position)
151=6 whilst 111 = 3

lui

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99.61.2 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, Code UFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

Luigi,

I don't know what you are doing with the Tzolkin but I will wait.
May I tell you about what I discovered?

Looking at the whole Tzolkin we see two curves crossing.
I found that the left curve begins at lower left (20) and ends top left (1), going "up".
I found that the right curve begins at upper right (241) and ends lower right (260), going "down".
So one goes "up" and the other goes "down".

The left "up" curve is called (future to past, or christory from Arguelles).
The right "down" curve is called (past to future, or history from Arguelles).

We exist at present in the last bactun (260) ready to enter the Tzolkin at a new place.

That place can be found by realizing that this flat Tzolkin of 260 bactun is actually a spherical torus shape.
By folding the bottom to the top and the left side to the right side, we connect the bactun that we are in (260) with the next bactun (1), the place where (future to past) is.
This date is called the Ascension date, Dec. 21, 2012 or perhaps Oct. 2011.
Or we can put 4 more flat Tzolkins around this one and the 260 bactun will still connect with the (1) bactun.

So the tail (260) of the Oroboros is mirrored with the head (1) in the Tzolkin just as it is in the ASM inversions and in the alphabet, atomics and musical mirrors.

One example of the Tzolkin mirror numbers would be 260 and 1. Also, 260 is the end and 1 is the beginning.
So we see one curve going one way and the other curve going the opposite way.
This is the nature of Light, that which the Tzolkin symbolically represents.

From these basics, you will probably have much more success in mirroring numbers and applying these mirror numbers to musical scale.

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.3 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

<< One example of the Tzolkin mirror numbers would be 260 and 1. Also, 260 is the end and 1 is the beginning. >>

Apart from your interesting insights on the torus and ascension theory we are practically saying the same! Although it's not end and beginning, it is contrary flows swapping over in the dead centre, around 130 and 131:

.....At this point one spots the obvious. This grid begins top left and bottom right simultaneously. The number 1 and its mirror partner the number 8, hidden in the number 260. Then there is a 21 =3 at the top left, whilst there is a 240 = 6 at the bottom right. This whole grid is moving in contrary flow. When the end of a row is reached at both ends simultaneously there is a hop up to the next level up and down and the mirror sequences continue moving in opposite directions to each other. So where do the flows meet? Do they meet or do they cross over a hidden axis point in the centre?.....

1 3 5 7 9 2 4 6 8 beginning at the number 1 8 6 4 2 9 7 5 3 1 beginning at number 260 and going opposite in flow to the number 1 at the top far left.

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Subject: MetPhys- Kin Days of the Tzolkin

<< Luigi,

I don't know what you are doing with the Tzolkin but I will wait. May I tell you about what I discovered? >>

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99.61.4 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, Code UFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

In a message dated 7/11/2 8:46:39 AM, luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com writes:

<< This grid begins top left and bottom right simultaneously. >>

Luigi,

Did I make myself clear enough to say the grid begins at lower left (20) and top right (241)? You repeat again, top left and bottom right.

Are you saying that I am incorrect? Tell me flat out if I am. I thought I had spent the time thinking about Arguelles information.

<< Although it's not end and beginning, it is contrary flows swapping over in the dead centre , around 130 and 131 >>

This, of course, is also disturbing news to me. I will have to rethink what you are saying.

Here is a clue:

<< At this point one spots the obvious. This grid begins top left and bottom right simultaneously. >>

If the bottom right (260) bactun is one of two beginnings, why are we exiting the same bactun called the "last" bactun. The last certainly is not the beginning is it?

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.5 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Hi

<< In a message dated 7/11/2 8:46:39 AM, luigi.di martino@ntlworld.com writes:

This grid begins top left and bottom right simultaneously. >>

Luigi,

Did I make myself clear enough to say the grid begins at lower left (20) and top right (241)? You repeat again, top left and bottom right.

Yes I see these two curves highlighted by the black squares.

I am not surprise that 20 and 241 begin a certain sequence. It is like a 2/7 point after all, a clue to movements in thirds perhaps.

<< Are you saying that I am incorrect? Tell me flat out if I am. I thought I had spent the time thinking about Arguelles information. >>

No you are correct in what you say, the curves are there. The beauty is that a few 'correct' interpretations may find even more within grids like this. Perhaps the crossing between 130/131 changes the qualities in the curves. The symmetry from what I see between the two curves is 20/241 - 39/222 - 58/203 etc for one pair and 1/260 - 22/239 etc for the other pair. What is being exchanged in that central area? Do the curves ever make it to the other side of the grid through this central area? Or do they bounce off the 'mirror' point and stay on their respective sides? The mode box has something similar happen. One side of the mode box produces Major thirds along its 45 deg. angle. The other side produces diatonic thirds (major/minor mixed). Yet there is evidence that the diatonic thirds hit the mirror point and cross into the mirror side of the mode box and become major thirds only.

<< Although it's not end and beginning, it is contrary flows swapping over in the dead centre , around 130 and 131 >>

<< This, of course, is also disturbing news to me. I will have to rethink what you are saying.

Here is a clue:

At this point one spots the obvious. This grid begins top left an bottom right simultaneously. >>

<< If the bottom right (260) bactun is one of two beginnings, why are we exiting the same bactun called the "last" bactun. The last certainly is not the beginning is it? >>

Maybe each curve is really the shape of an eye. This would mean half the curve on each side is missing, or rather would be the opposite side in a continual grid. The left visible curve has a right side invisible, and the right side could have a left side invisible. I think maybe each dual curve defines a sine wave shape. The two curves intercept at the centre. Two sine wave shapes may be occurring and the whole thing looks like a curvy letter X.

Luigi

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99.61.6 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid(MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, Code UFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

Luigi,

In a message dated 7/11/2 9:44:09 AM, luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com writes:

<< I think maybe each dual curve defines a sine wave shape. The two curves intercept at the centre. >>

Yes, of course, it is two sine waves spiraling around each other. Two sine waves are what we get when we look at the double helix of DNA from the side or two spiraling light waves in space or one Cooper pair of photons spiraling over the surface of an electron-torus, appearing and disappearing. When I found this out several years ago I began to look at how the information flows over DNA, light and electron-tori in possibly opposite directions past each other on the two sine wave curves and possibly the same with music, of course.

Your information is disturbing to me in a way but I shouldn't be thinking that I had figured out the Tzolkin so easily. I will have to accept new Tzolkin music a little more readily now. After all, you seem to be correct in your musical accessments so far.

One part of the Tzolkin that was never clear in my mind was the two vertical columns of bactun on each side of the very center 7th column. I see very symmetric sine waves but what the heck are two straight lines of bactun doing nestled tangentially against the sine waves at their highest amplitude?

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.7 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (CodeUFO) 

From: CodeUFO
To: MetPhys@aol.com, luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (CodeUFO) 
Date: 07/11/02

In a message dated 7/11/02 12:54:07 AM, MetPhys writes:

<< So the tail (260) of the Oroboros is mirrored with the head (1) in the Tzolkin just as it is in the ASM inversions and in the alphabet, atomics and musical mirrors.

One example of the Tzolkin mirror numbers would be 260 and 1. Also, 260 is the end and 1 is the beginning. So we see one curve going one way and the other curve going the opposite way. This is the nature of Light, that which the Tzolkin symbolically represents. >>

Interesting observations, including Lui's information about the mirroring in the Tzolkin. When the values of the alphanumbers are mirrored in the same fashion the result is a 260 harmonic. The values of the mirrored pairs are subtracted from each other and the resulting values are reduced to single digits. The sum of those reduced numbers is 26.

ONE=34
EIGHT=49
Difference:15 = 6

TWO=58
SEVEN=65
Difference: 7

THREE=56
SIX=52
Difference: 4

FOUR=60
FIVE=42
Difference: 18 = 9

6+7+4+9 = 26

Just tinkering with these I noticed if 9 is added to each of those (the 6, 7, 4, 9) the result is the mirror of 26: 15+16+13+18 = 62

One other thing I noticed
MAYAN CALENDAR = 112
260 - 112 = 148 = REVERSE LIGHT

By the way Lui, thanks for that great Tzolkin graphic. Where did you find that?

-Gary-

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99.61.8 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, Code UFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Hi

Just a few other observation:

When the grid is at 115 on one side it is at 146 the other. These two figures break down to 7 and 2, mirror flow partners.

Until this point the partners have run along a 45 deg. angle. After the 115/146 respectively they meet in the centre row, 134/127. These two numbers break down to 8 and 1, two more mirror partners. Then the next pair is 133/128, which break down to 7 and 2. Then there is a 132/129, breaking down to 6 and 3. Then the 131/130, breaking down to 5 and 4.

The other curve comes in at 106/155, which breaks down to 7 and 2. This curve joins the second curve after this in the central row. They then share similar number partners until the cross-over point at 130.5

The top left hand curve comes out at 130.5 and travels to the 111 or the 151, as the other curve comes out of 130.5 and travels either to 110 or 150. Both number partners then travel down their respective rows until once more they go off at the 45 deg. angle.

If one needs to take the flow of the number sequences into account then this seems to be a definite path where each number sequence is related to its mirror partner. I can't find another path so far where the number sequences move in pairs this way, one flow being the opposite of the other.

Lui

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99.61.9 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

More good stuff Gary. Isn't it amazing how things makes sense from many angles? What you show is, for me, even more correlation that 'true' steps are being taken:

If the true centre were 130.5 that would be a cool place for the number 9 to nestle. The first movement away from the centre is then a 4/5. So I wonder if things are really springing out of this centre like they do at the tri-tone position in the scales.

I am glad you asked about the graphic. I was wondering if the author would really mind my sending it to you guys. It is part of a free program called Dreamspell. As it is only 172k I thought I would send it along to you.

Lui

Note: The Dreamspell count discrepancy of Arguelles two days is contested by John Major Jenkins).

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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: MetPhys- Kin Days of the Tzolkin

<< In a message dated 7/11/02 12:54:07 AM, MetPhys writes: >>

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99.61.10 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Hi again

Just spent the last hour mirroring the grid. I used the numbers from the chart I left on Robert's site. The yellow squares are where both flows meet for a while, or use the same sequences.

The blue boxes start at 8 and 181 respectively. This is an 8/1 partnership. Then one moves to 23 = 5, and the other moves to 166 = 4, and the 5/4 are number partners.

Then the cross-over point happens at 95.5 (Correction: 94.5). In the original grid the cross-over point seems to be 130.5

95.5 = 9+5+5 =10 =1
130.5 = 1+3+5 =9

130.5 + 95.5 =226, whatever that means!

Lui

Addenda: Sorry the cross over point in the mirror grid I think is actually 94.5.

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99.61.11 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Left to my own devices I doubt if I'd ever have recognized a torus type thingie in that chart. Yesterday was the first time I saw that particular chart. All I was looking for was any relationship between the numbers. Perhaps it's too simple a technique to mean anything. However it does seem to have its own self justifying fulfillment.

<< One part of the Tzolkin that was never clear in my mind was the two vertical columns of bactun on each side of the very center 7th column. I see very symmetric sine waves but what the heck are two straight lines of bactun doing nestled tangentially against the sine waves at their highest amplitude? >>

The black columns either side both begin with a 2/7 pairing. This almost ushers the two waves into the centre row.

106 = 7 and 146 = 2.
115 = 7 and 155 = 2

The black columns then mirror each other like this

107 = 8 with 154 =1
108 =9 with 153 = 9
109 =1 with 152 =8
110 =2 with 151 =7
111 =3 with 150 = 6

Then the remaining black squares mirror:

88 = 7 with 173 = 2
69 =6 with 192 =3
50 =5 with 211 =4
51 =6 with 210 =3
72 =9 with 189 =9
93 = 3 with 168 =6

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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:23 PM
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<< Luigi,

In a message dated 7/11/2 9:44:09 AM, luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com writes:

I think maybe each dual curve defines a sine wave shape. The two curves intercept at the centre. >>

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99.61.12 How Does the Tzolkin Move? (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: How Does the Tzolkin Move? (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

Luigi,

Thoughts on the dilemma of Tzolkin "center" and the sine wave curves. How does it move?

<< 99.61.5 Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Kin days of the Tzolkin grid (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02 >>

<< No you are correct in what you say, the curves are there. The beauty is that a few 'correct' interpretations may find even more within grids like this. Perhaps the crossing between 130/131 changes the qualities in the curves. The symmetry from what I see between the two curves is 20/241 - 39/222 - 58/203 etc for one pair and 1/260 - 22/239 etc for the other pair. What is being exchanged in that central area? Do the curves ever make it to the other side of the grid through this central area? Or do they bounce off the 'mirror' point and stay on their respective sides? The mode box has something similar happen. One side of the mode box produces Major thirds along its 45 deg. angle. The other side produces diatonic thirds (major/minor mixed). Yet there is evidence that the diatonic thirds hit the mirror point and cross into the mirror side of the mode box and become major thirds only. (Luigi) >>

<< Although it's not end and beginning, it is contrary flows swapping over in the dead centre , around 130 and 131 (Luigi) >>

I encountered this shocking problem before, as I remember. To figure out why there is a center and a double set of numbers seemingly expanding out and coming back to the center, I had to conclude that the Tzolkin was actually a spheric shape that represented "something" breathing in and out. That something, I concluded some time later, was the Sun. This Sun of ours should have a toroidal hole thru the center which is the central, sacred, 7th column of the Tzolkin that never moves. In other words, we might say that our Sun is breathing in and out over a period from 3113 BC to 2012 AD. Actually, I believe Jose Arguelles among many others, says plainly, the Sun is breathing. This is why the last bactun 260 seems associated with Pluto, and I suspect, bactun 1, 20 and 241, are also...i.e., the Sun is ready to take an inward breath.

I believe this Tzolkin grid is either the surface of the Sun, which is why I folded the Tzolkin top to bottom, left to right, or The Tzolkin represents a flat grid between the Sun and Earth that is a property of space itself, showing the permutations of the double-spiraling-sine-wave-light shooting thru the Tzolkin, from the Sun.

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.13 How Does the Tzolkin Move? (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: How Does the Tzolkin Move? (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Hi Robert:

I'll go along with everything you said there. It sounds like I have waded into a field that has a lot of thought behind it already! The Heart of the Sun, as Pink Floyd and Dan Winter say!

<< Thoughts on the dilemma of Tzolkin "center" and the sine wave curves How does it move? >>

Dunno really. How about this.....God's Desire organising the inert energy into Will-Power, causing ripples to spring forth from the Neutral Centre like snakes coming out of a pit, four ways at once! Male/Female + mirror Female/Male. The waves travel to the four corners and loop back round like an oval , then find their way back to the centre. At the centre they swap and do the same journey on the other side, like the figure of 8 analogy.

Note: This 4 corner loop and a similar 4 corner loop on the other side of the center brought my thoughts to Quadrapole Gravity and c^8 (c^4 + c^4 or musically, 4th + 4th). Are we looking at atomic gravity configurations at the astronomic level?

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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: MetPhys- How Does the Tzolkin Move?

<< Luigi,

Thoughts on the dilemma of Tzolkin "center" and the sine wave curves. How does it move? >>

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99.61.14 Dr. Hartak (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Dr. Hartak (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

Apologies if you already have this link:

According to Dr. Hurtak, this was a culture who cracked the genetic code and possessed the keys of the physical spectrum - the "Higher Light Physics" of the ancients. Everything old Gilgamesh went searching for in his famous trek to the lost "City of the Gods" to search the tunnels beneath "Mt. Mashu" in the desert lands.

Hurtak refers to a "language of light" and a great priest-scientist of the previous time cycle named ENOCH, who is associated with the building of the Great Pyramid complex Hurtak alludes to a grand spiritual science, a science which describes a genetic stairway to the stars. The priest-scientist ENOCH is a prediluvian patriarch, one of the most famous and seminal characters of the previous time cycle. The extraordinary discoveries in Egypt and other parts of the world, describe not just an advanced technology but an evolutionary path beyond our present state. Careful scientific examination of the worlds key pyramid sites, reveal them to be sophisticated harmonic structures, not only mirroring positions of the planets and stellar systems but, designed to mimic the chakras and harmonic cavities of the human body.

Each stone within the Great Pyramid is harmonically tuned to a specific frequency or musical tone. The sarcophagus in the centre of the Great Pyramid is tuned to the frequency of the human heartbeat. Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids, and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures.

The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light" known to the ancients as HIBURU, it is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle. Modern research confirms the most ancient form of Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light coursing through our very nervous system. Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light.

The "keys" Enoch speaks of turn out to be sound keys, keys to the vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World".

Thoth

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99.61.15 Dr. Hartak's Comments and the Cheops Pyramid (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Dr. Hartak's Comments and the Cheops Pyramid (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

I already incorporated Dr. Hartak's insights into my theory called The Giza Communications and Synchronizing Device http://www.rgrace.org/100/124cheops.html

but I may have to revise it because there was a female guest on Art Bell several night ago who said she knew of an Engineer who could show that Christopher Dunns laser / maser Giza pyramid was impossible. My theory is based upon a laser carrier so I may have to find that paper and revise the laser theory into something like a resonant sound wave produced by the stones.

If anyone can find that Engineer's theory, I'd like to see it please.

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.16 Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

Luigi,

You have made several fine measurements with series 1-260.

Have you thought about repeating your measurements with the traditional 20 sets of 13? This Tzolkin would then be following a pattern that would remind the reader of a 13 note chromatic scale of music with its intrinsic symmetry. I may do this myself eventually and send you a drawing.

The method:

The numbering will begin top left at 1, then down to 13. Begin with 1 again and end the first column at 7.
Return to the 2nd column with 8 and go to 13. Then begin with 1 again to 13, etc, etc until reaching the end with 13.

The notation could be as follows:

1^1 - First number, first set of 13.
1^13 - Last number, first set of 13.
2^1 to
2^13
etc...
20^1 to
20^13.

20 sets of 13 = 260

The notation would then appear more plainly symmetric, I believe. The extremities of the previous (1) and (260) would look like this: 1^1 and 20^13

MetPhys@aol.com

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99.61.17 Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (luigi) 

From: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com
To: MetPhys@aol.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (luigi) 
Date: 07/11/02

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Milamo@aol.com
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Subject: MetPhys- Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13?

<< Luigi,

You have made several fine measurements with series 1-260.

Have you thought about repeating your measurements with the traditional 20 sets of 13? This Tzolkin would then be following a pattern that would remind the reader of a 13 note chromatic scale of music with its intrinsic symmetry. I may do this myself eventually and send you a drawing. >>

That's a really good idea! That's made me think of doing one for the two circles of tones as well! Loads of other things to do as usual but I like this so I'll probably have a go soon.

Inspired spiral, toss in the phrase
Through triangles into other days

<< The method:

The numbering will begin top left at 1, then down to 13. Begin with 1 again and end the first column at 7.
Return to the 2nd column with 8 and go to 13. Then begin with 1 again to 13, etc, etc until reaching the end with 13.

The notation could be as follows:

1^1 - First number, first set of 13.
1^13 - Last number, first set of 13.
2^1 to
2^13
etc...
20^1 to
20^13.

20 sets of 13 = 260

The notation would then appear more plainly symmetric, I believe. The extremities of the previous (1) and (260) would look like this: 1^1 and 20^13 >>

Will do. Wonder what the cross-over point is? And if there is a 2 and a 7 around it. One thing I will lay my next rizla packet on and that is the central point will be a 9.

Found a couple of quotes on your site I liked:

<< The beginning of the known universe is the end of the last beginning and the beginning of the next end, which only lasts for, not nano, pico, femto, atto, zepto or yoctoseconds in each state, but is so fast as to be beyond human measure. For all intents and purposes, universe has no time unit. Time units are a human invention. 3/16/02 Robert Grace >>

It is fascinating that the begining is at the end , but this is how the scales switch over at the poles too. Here is the circle of 5ths:

C G D A E B F#/Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C

Full expansion at F# becomes full contraction at Gb. These two notes live at the 4.5 position of the C Major scale. There is also a mirror of this movement. The above is a circle of 5ths. The flow is going clockwise. The circle of 5ths going anti-clockwise starts at the opposite end in effect:

C F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb/F# B E A D G C

In terms of sharps and flats the first diagram is doing a 0 1 2 3 4 5 6/6 5 4 3 2 1 0

The second diagram looks the same numerically but evolves from flats to sharps instead.

The other quote is this:

<< "Matter's latticed waves are spaced at intervals corresponding to the frets on a harp or guitar with analogous sequences of overtones arising from each fundamental. The science of musical harmony is in these terms practically identical with the science of symmetry in crystals." Professor Amstutz - Mineralogical Institute >>

And with this add color. I have wanted confirmation of something like this for quite a few years. It seems science fiction can sometimes really refer to creating a fact. Can colored laser crystals be made of any color? How would one isolate harmonic numbers 7 9 11 in the overtone series, and get a laser to resonate at those frequencies?

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99.61.18 Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (MetPhys) 

From: MetPhys@aol.com
To: luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com, CodeUFO, Milamo
Subject: Repeat Tzolkin Measurements w 13? (MetPhys) 
Date: 07/11/02

In a message dated 7/11/2 11:28:37 PM, luigi.di-martino@ntlworld.com writes:

<< Wonder what the cross-over point is? And if there is a 2 and a 7 around it. One thing I will lay my next rizla packet on and that is the central point will be a 9. >>

By numbering in 20 sets of 13, the middle of the center 7th column comes out to be 13-1, the seemingly symbolic end/beginning of the chromatic note series 1-13.

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