From: MetPhys@aol.com
Hello Mark,
I'm Robert Grace of Impossible Correspondence.
I noticed you do your pyramid maths in meters. Would you like to see it done in feet and in a 360 degree system? Try This List of Emails from Michael Morton and others.
MetPhys@aol.com
From: Milamo@aol.com
You seem to be under the impression that my work is specific to the metric system. My work will be exactly the same regardless of the units
measure.
If your mathematics, relating to the pyramid, only works under a particular unit of measure then you have 'fudged' your work.
In other words, if you cannot switch between (metric, imperial, etc) and obtain the same results then you have discovered nothing.
Also, the pyramid replicates each item several times as a method of
independent validation.
If I examine your work and it requires feet and the 360 degree notation then I will instantly know it is wrong.
Mark McCarron
From: MetPhys@aol.com
Thanks for your comment. Could I have your website address again. I would like to forward it to Michael Morton to see what he might say.
MetPhys@aol.com
From: markmccarron_it@hotmail.com
Sure, I am a member of the advisory board with the Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association.
The website address is:
My research deals with an embedded mathematical code within the Giza
Necropolis structures. It is definitely there and it runs in sequence
getting progressively more complex as it goes on.
You can also check out this older site I used for a while which has a lot
more research on it and it also contains a file that holds nearly every
'fact' associated with Great Pyramid compiled from thousands of sources.
Remember that 75% of it has NOT been verified as being accurate, I am in the process of doing that now. However, from the details there, you can clearly see much of the code 'jumping out at you'. That address is:
I am currently re-writing all my research and posting it as a modular series on the association's website. I recently had a death in the family and all my time has been consumed by that, but, I should return to it in a few weeks.
A biography is available for most of the advisory board, one appears on the homepage, but, it is a short version. Follow the link 'Advisory Board' on the left hand menu and you will find a more detailed version there.
Mark McCarron
From: Milamo@aol.com
In a message dated 02/20/2002 10:55:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, MetPhys writes:
<< I received this response from Mark McCarron, to my inquiry (listed last, below), after I read one of the papers of this Association to which he belongs. Mark is a member of the advisory board with the Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association. The website address. You will recognize many on this board. Anyway, Marks response as follows, was a little new to me. His letter to me, indicated that:
"You seem to be under the impression that my work is specific to the metric system. My work will be exactly the same regardless of the units
measure.
If your mathematics, relating to the pyramid, only works under a particular unit of measure then you have 'fudged' your work.
In other words, if you cannot switch between (metric, imperial, etc) and obtain the same results then you have discovered nothing.
Also, the pyramid replicates each item several times as a method of
independent validation.
If I examine your work and it requires feet and the 360 degree notation then I will instantly know it is wrong."
Mark McCarron
*********************
From: MetPhys@aol.com
Hello Mark,
I'm Robert Grace of Impossible Correspondence.
I noticed you do your pyramid maths in meters. Would you like to see it
done in feet and in a 360 degree system? Try This List of Emails from Michael Morton and others.
MetPhys@aol.com >>
***********
From Milamo:
To Mark McCarron, and to the other Members of the Advisory Board of the "Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" :
I'm issuing a serious challenge to you.
Mark McCarron seems to be saying that the "ASM" is "unable" to relate to various "units" or "formats" of measurement .. as if the 360 degrees system and the British foot, inch, and mile are some sort of "arbitrary, arcane irrelevance", or something to that effect.
Well .. as I said .. I'm challenging this allegation and this arrogant-and-uninformed attitude expressed by Mark McCarron.
Have any of you bothered to read any of my posts on The Internet ..
over the last 4_years_or so .. specifying my proposed true-and-intended
(self-evidently) length for The Royal (Egyptian) Cubit ?
As in .. 20.62648063 regular British inches ? {Morton, 1998, Internet}.
I've sent many posts on this very subject to Chris Dunn's email address .. along with suggestions that he .. or 'someone' .. seriously consider (re)-
measuring the floor of "The King's Chamber" inside The Great Pyramid of Giza .. to see if my proposed 20.62648063 regular British inches .. per Royal Cubit .. is "encoded" there .. as 10 * 20 Royal Cubits. But Chris Dunn has never replied to my emails concerning this subject. I would think that_he_would be someone who could maybe get in there and_do_such a measurement. No ?
But .. then, again .. would he execute and report such a measurement honestly ? Does he have certain "attitudes" similar to those evident in the mind of Mark McCarron ? Is this actually involved-in 'why' Chris Dunn hasn't responded to my emails on this subject ? Frankly .. I do wonder.
You see .. the length of 20.62648063 regular British inches ..
is_very_logical and efficient .. if-and-when you take the time to think about such things as .. the_numbers_implied by Area and Volume .. using the 360 arc-degrees system. This becomes obvious when you simply use the *numerical value* of the Radian Arc constant .. 57.29577951 ..
inherent_in_the 360 arc-degrees system .. as .. the "given radius" in standard maths for figuring Areas and Volumes of the Circle and Sphere.
Yes .. *of course* .. I REALLY_DO_REALIZE .. that (2Pi) Radians(arc) is
the "universal" math expression for a circumference.
Yes .. just as I_DO_realize that (Pi/2) Radians(arc) is the "universal"
math expression for the "right angle".
The 20.62648063 regular-British-inches Royal Cubit ..
is encoded in the 3 major pyramids at Giza .. in their self-evidently-indicated original dimensions .. as derived by Carl P. Munck, Sr. ..
(Munck, 1993, "The Code", self-published, http://www.pyramidmatrix.com)
Yes .. it_would_help if any of you, there .. on The Advisory Board of the
"Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" .. would actually take_some_of your precious time, to focus your attention on Munck's work and on my own work. Who knows .. you might even find it sort of enlightening.
The derived original-and-self-evidently-intended Apex Height of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. is .. 480.3471728 regular British feet.
Notice what_happens_when I convert this figure to Royal Cubits ..
using my (Morton, 1998, Internet) figure of .. 1.718873386 .. regular British feet per Royal Cubit .. (20.62648063 / 12 = 1.718873386) ..
(480.3471728 / 1.718873386) = 279.4546572 ..
= [27.58106915 / (Pi^2)] * 10^2.
This is where .. 27.58106915 .. is the_precise_Grid POINT Value ..
at the Apex of .. "The D&M Pyramid" of Cydonia on Mars .. (Munck, 1993, "The Code") .. where .. Grid LAT "D&M Pyramid" ..
= 40(deg) * 52(min) * 4.773646584(sec) North .. = 9929.184894 North.
And, where; 360 .. is the (designated; in the self-evident "ASM")
Grid LONG (prime meridian on Mars' surface; with "The D&M Pyramid" as
prime meridian 'marker' .. directly_analogous_to The Great Pyramid as prime meridian 'marker' on Earth's surface in the "ASM"). Thus .. (9929.184894 / 360) = 27.58106915
Please notice .. (9929.184894 * 8.64) = 85788.15751 North ..
= 29(deg) * 58(min) * 51.00366083(sec) North .. where; 85788.15751 North .. is the Apex Grid LAT (Morton, 2001, Internet) ..
at the top of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. in the "ASM".
The number 8.64 .. is a decimal-harmonic (yes; referent of the base 10 system) of .. the classical "mean" (gematria-based) diameter of The Sun .. Sol .. in .. statute miles .. 864,000 ..yes .. you know .. that unit of measure containing 5280 regular British feet.
I've put out various posts on The Internet .. showing the_harmony_and/or the "resonance" evident .. in the Buckminster Fuller "DNA/RNA Un-Zip Angle" of .. 7.333333333 arc-degrees.
Please notice .. (5280 / 7.333333333) = 720 .. referencing the total
number of arc-degrees on the_surface_of a *tetrahedron* .. assuming
the_geometry_of 360 arc-degrees on a circumference.
Yes .. IMO .. this is an indication of a "comprehensively-designed" system ..
including the geometric structure of DNA itself.
What is the base side-length of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. in terms
of Royal Cubits .. using my proposed length of 1.718873385 regular British
feet_per_Royal Cubit ?
Answer; [27.58106915 * (10^2)] / 2Pi.
Are we not seeing, here, a rather redundant indication .. of the Grid POINT Value of the particular pyramid on Mars, at Cydonia .. that serves the "ASM" as the prime meridian "marker" on Mars' surface .. encoded in the original (derived) *dimensions* of the particular pyramid on Earth, at Giza .. that serves the "ASM" as the prime meridian "marker" on Earth's surface ?
What about The Chephren Pyramid of Giza ?
Its Grid POINT Value (Munck, 1993, "The Code") is .. 5764.166073 ..
where; (67858.40133 / 11.77245771) = 5764.166073 on the north face ..
and; where .. its Grid LONG = 11.77245771 (sec) W.Giza .. west of the
prime meridian, which passes through the center of The Great Pyramid.
And; where .. 67858.40133 North ..
= 29(deg) * 58(min) * 40.34387713(sec) North.
Comparing this Grid POINT Value .. for The Chephren Pyramid ..
to the original (derived) Apex Height in_Royal Cubits_for The Great Pyramid .. (5764.166073 / 279.4546572) = 20.62648063 .. encodes the exact length of The Royal Cubit, itself .. in regular British inches.
Also .. the original (derived) Apex Height of The Great Pyramid in regular British inches .. is_precisely_equal, numerically, to the Grid POINT Value of The Chephren Pyramid ..
(480.3471728 * 12) = 5764.166073
Also .. please notice that .. 5764.166073 = (656.56127 * 27.58106915 * Pi) .. where; 656.56127 .. is the Grid POINT Value of "FACE ONE" @ Cydonia on Mars (Munck, 1993, "The Code"). And, where; [(1440 * Pi) / 6.890283706] = 656.56127 .. right on the "nose".
And, where; 6.890283706 (min) E.Cydonia .. is the Grid LONG of "FACE ONE" .. east of the prime meridian that passes through the center of "The D&M Pyramid". And, where; (1440 * Pi) = 4523.893421 North ..
= 41(deg) * 11(min) * 10.03080581(sec) North.
Please note, above, the Grid LAT of The Chephren Pyramid .. 67858.40133 North .. = 29(deg) * 58(min) * 40.34387713(sec) .. on the north face.
If I divide this figure by the Pi constant .. (67858.40133 / 3.141592654) = 21600 .. the exact Polar circumference of Earth .. in nautical miles_and_in latitude arc-minutes.
This figure .. 21600 .. is also the Grid LAT of Stonehenge .. (Munck, 1993, "The Code") .. = 51(deg) * 10(min) * 42.35294118(sec) North.
Munck's figure for the original (derived) Apex Height of The Chephren
Pyramid of Giza is .. (150 * Pi) = 471.238898 regular British feet.
Converting to Royal Cubits .. (471.238898 / 1.718873385) ..
= 274.1556779
Comparing_that_figure to Munck's (1993) figure for the Grid POINT Value of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. on the north face .. (274.1556779 / 248.0502134) = (Pi / 2.842446068) ..
Where; 2.842446068 = "ASM" Grid POINT Value of the North Galactic Node, or "Solar Apex" .. (Morton, 2001, Internet) ..
where; (105760.4031/ 37207.53202) = 2.842446068 ..
And, where; 37202.53202 = "ASM" format of the base slope-angle
of The Great Pyramid of Giza ..
= 51(deg) * 51(min) * 14.30508728(sec) .. {Munck, 1993}.
And, where; 37207.53202 North of ecliptic ..
= 53(deg) * 26(min) * 27.00111177(sec) North of ecliptic.
And, where; 105760.4031 W.ALNITAK ..
= 173(deg) * 13(min) * 47.02552383(sec) W.ALNITAK.
{Morton, 2001, Internet}.
Please see database source .. a sidereal zodiac ..
for Earth-sky-locations .. http://users.cwnet.com/~sidereal/mag/astfixst.htm
The "ASM" calculation-methodology is explained in detail .. with examples .. at .. http://matrix-messenger.tripod.com/index.htm
(Please see the articles with hyper-links, at the top of the website).
ALNITAK .. the belt-star in Orion .. serves as the "ASM" ecliptic prime
meridian "marker-star" .. as observed_from_Earth.
The "ASM" involves_Earth-sky_locations of prominent "fixed stars" ..
and also, Earth-sky locations such as 'Solar Apex' and 'Galactic Center'.
The "ASM" sky 'portion' is ecliptic-based .. and uses the sidereal zodiac,
with ALNITAK as ecliptic prime meridian "marker".
[ Munck's Grid LAT .. (1993) on the north face of The Great Pyramid of Giza, is .. 29(deg) * 58(min) * 53.09041429(sec) North ..
= 89298.07684 North ..
= 2880 * (Pi^3).
And, where; Grid LONG = 360 .. as Earth-surface prime meridian.
Thus .. Grid POINT Value = (89298.07694 / 360) = 248.0502134 = (2Pi)^3.]
The Surface Area on a Hemisphere is calculated using this standard formula ; 2Pi * (radius Squared).
If you simply substitute the_numerical value_of the Radian Arc constant .. assuming the 360 degrees system is_*encoded*_in the "ASM" ..
of .. 57.29577951 .. where; (360 / 2Pi = 57.29577951 arc-degrees) ..
then ..
2Pi * (57.29577951)^2 = 20626.48063 Square arc-degrees.
This_figure_is a decimal-harmonic of the 20.62648063 regular British
inches_*length*_of The Royal (Egyptian) Cubit .. as I have proposed ..
(Morton, 1998, Internet).
I think this_decimal-harmonic_is also encoded as the width of the floor of "The King's Chamber" inside The Great Pyramid of Giza .. as ..
206.6248063 regular British inches .. or .. 10 Royal Cubits.
I think the_length_of "The King's Chamber" is also encoding the polar
radius of Earth .. as .. 34.34774671 regular British feet ..
a decimal-harmonic of .. 3434.774671 nautical miles.
The Grid POINT Value of The Great Sphinx of Giza .. 5400 ..
(Munck, 1993) .. is encoding, apparently .. the arc-distance
on Earth from either pole to the equator .. in nautical miles.
The Grid POINT Value of "FACE ONE" at Cydonia on Mars ..
656.56127 .. (Munck, 1993) .. is precisely-related to the Pi constant ..
by way of another decimal-harmonic of the 20.62648063 regular British inches length of The Royal Cubit ..
(656.56127 * 3.141592654) = 2062.648063
So .. there is_very_strong, compelling evidence .. of the *encoding*
of the 360 arc-degrees system .. as well as the regular British inch, foot,
and statute mile .. along with the nautical mile .. and along with The Royal
Cubit .. within the "ASM" .. and this evidence is very prominent at Giza ..
in the original (derived) dimensions and in the precise_placement_of the
major pyramids there.
It is time that the Advisory Board of the "Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" .. wake-up to the reality of the research and of the compelling evidence that I have only 'noted' in this email post.
-- Michael Lawrence Morton
From: Milamo@aol.com
Subj: Re: MetPhys- Pyramid Measured in Feet/360 degrees
To: MarkMcCarron_IT@hotmail.com
In a message dated 02/20/2002 10:55:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, MetPhys writes:
<< I received this response from Mark McCarron, to my inquiry (listed last, below), after I read one of the papers of this Association to which he belongs. Mark is a member of the advisory board with the Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association. The website address. You will recognize many on this board. Anyway, Marks response as follows, was a little new to me. His letter to me, indicated that:
"You seem to be under the impression that my work is specific to the metric system. My work will be exactly the same regardless of the units
measure.
If your mathematics, relating to the pyramid, only works under a particular unit of measure then you have 'fudged' your work.
In other words, if you cannot switch between (metric, imperial, etc) and obtain the same results then you have discovered nothing.
Also, the pyramid replicates each item several times as a method of
independent validation.
If I examine your work and it requires feet and the 360 degree notation then I will instantly know it is wrong."
Mark McCarron
*********************
From: MetPhys@aol.com
Hello Mark,
I'm Robert Grace of Impossible Correspondence.
I noticed you do your pyramid maths in meters. Would you like to see it
donein feet and in a 360 degree system? Try This List of Emails from Michael Morton and others.
MetPhys@aol.com >>
*******
From Milamo:
To Mark McCarron, and to the other Members of the Advisory Board of the "Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" :
I'm issuing a serious challenge to you.
Mark McCarron seems to be saying that the "ASM" is "unable" to relate to various "units" or "formats" of measurement .. as if the 360 degrees system and the British foot, inch, and mile are some sort of "arbitrary, arcane irrelevance", or something to that effect.
Well .. as I said .. I'm challenging this allegation and this arrogant-and-uninformed attitude expressed by Mark McCarron.
Have any of you bothered to read any of my posts on The Internet ..
over the last 4_years_or so .. specifying my proposed true-and-intended
(self-evidently) length for The Royal (Egyptian) Cubit ?
As in .. 20.62648063 regular British inches ? {Morton, 1998, Internet}.
I've sent many posts on this very subject to Chris Dunn's email address .. along with suggestions that he .. or 'someone' .. seriously consider (re)-
measuring the floor of "The King's Chamber" inside The Great Pyramid of Giza .. to see if my proposed 20.62648063 regular British inches .. per Royal Cubit .. is "encoded" there .. as 10 * 20 Royal Cubits. But Chris Dunn has never replied to my emails concerning this subject. I would think that_he_would be someone who could maybe get in there and_do_such a measurement. No ?
But .. then, again .. would he execute and report such a measurement honestly ?
Does he have certain "attitudes" similar to those evident in the mind of Mark McCarron ? Is this actually involved-in 'why' Chris Dunn hasn't responded to my emails on this subject ? Frankly .. I do wonder.
You see .. the length of 20.62648063 regular British inches ..
is_very_logical and efficient .. if-and-when you take the time to think about such things as .. the_numbers_implied by Area and Volume .. using the 360 arc-degrees system. This becomes obvious when you simply use the *numerical value* of the Radian Arc constant .. 57.29577951 ..
inherent_in_the 360 arc-degrees system .. as .. the "given radius" in standard maths for figuring Areas and Volumes of the Circle and Sphere. Yes .. *of course* .. I REALLY_DO_REALIZE .. that (2Pi) Radians(arc) is
the "universal" math expression for a circumference.
Yes .. just as I_DO_realize that (Pi/2) Radians(arc) is the "universal"
math expression for the "right angle".
The 20.62648063 regular-British-inches Royal Cubit ..
is encoded in the 3 major pyramids at Giza .. in their self-evidently-indicated original dimensions .. as derived by Carl P. Munck, Sr. ..
(Munck, 1993, "The Code", self-published, http://www.pyramidmatrix.com)
Yes .. it_would_help if any of you, there .. on The Advisory Board of the
"Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" .. would actually take_some_of your precious time, to focus your attention on Munck's work and on my own work. Who knows .. you might even find it sort of enlightening.
The derived original-and-self-evidently-intended Apex Height of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. is .. 480.3471728 regular British feet.
Notice what_happens_when I convert this figure to Royal Cubits ..
using my (Morton, 1998, Internet) figure of .. 1.718873386 .. regular British feet per Royal Cubit .. (20.62648063 / 12 = 1.718873386) ...
(480.3471728 / 1.718873386) = 279.4546572 .. = [27.58106915 / (Pi^2)] * 10^2.
This is where .. 27.58106915 .. is the_precise_Grid POINT Value ..
at the Apex of .. "The D&M Pyramid" of Cydonia on Mars .. (Munck, 1993, "The Code") ..
where .. Grid LAT "D&M Pyramid" .. = 40(deg) * 52(min) * 4.773646584(sec) North .. = 9929.184894 North.
And, where; 360 .. is the (designated; in the self-evident "ASM")
Grid LONG (prime meridian on Mars' surface; with "The D&M Pyramid" as
prime meridian 'marker' .. directly_analogous_to The Great Pyramid as prime meridian 'marker' on Earth's surface in the "ASM").
Thus .. (9929.184894 / 360) = 27.58106915
Please notice .. (9929.184894 * 8.64) = 85788.15751 North ..
= 29(deg) * 58(min) * 51.00366083(sec) North .. where; 85788.15751 North .. is the Apex Grid LAT (Morton, 2001, Internet) ..
at the top of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. in the "ASM".
The number 8.64 .. is a decimal-harmonic (yes; referent of the base 10 system) of .. the classical "mean" (gematria-based) diameter of The Sun .. Sol .. in .. statute miles .. 864,000 ..yes .. you know .. that unit of measure containing 5280 regular British feet.
I've put out various posts on The Internet .. showing the_harmony_and/or the "resonance" evident .. in the Buckminster Fuller "DNA/RNA Un-Zip Angle" of .. 7.333333333 arc-degrees.
Please notice .. (5280 / 7.333333333) = 720 .. referencing the total
number of arc-degrees on the_surface_of a *tetrahedron* .. assuming
the_geometry_of 360 arc-degrees on a circumference.
Yes .. IMO .. this is an indication of a "comprehensively-designed" system ..
including the geometric structure of DNA itself.
What is the base side-length of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. in terms
of Royal Cubits .. using my proposed length of 1.718873385 regular British
feet_per_Royal Cubit ? Answer; [27.58106915 * (10^2)] / 2Pi.
Are we not seeing, here, a rather redundant indication .. of the Grid POINT Value of the particular pyramid on Mars, at Cydonia .. that serves the "ASM" as the prime meridian "marker" on Mars' surface .. encoded in the original (derived) *dimensions* of the particular pyramid on Earth, at Giza .. that serves the "ASM" as the prime meridian "marker" on Earth's surface ?
What about The Chephren Pyramid of Giza ?
Its Grid POINT Value (Munck, 1993, "The Code") is .. 5764.166073 ..
where; (67858.40133 / 11.77245771) = 5764.166073 on the north face ..
and; where .. its Grid LONG = 11.77245771 (sec) W.Giza .. west of the
prime meridian, which passes through the center of The Great Pyramid.
And; where .. 67858.40133 North ..
= 29(deg) * 58(min) * 40.34387713(sec) North.
Comparing this Grid POINT Value .. for The Chephren Pyramid ..
to the original (derived) Apex Height in_Royal Cubits_for The Great Pyramid .. (5764.166073 / 279.4546572) = 20.62648063 .. encodes the exact length of The Royal Cubit, itself .. in regular British inches.
Also .. the original (derived) Apex Height of The Great Pyramid in regular British inches .. is_precisely_equal, numerically, to the Grid POINT Value of The Chephren Pyramid ..
(480.3471728 * 12) = 5764.166073
Also .. please notice that .. 5764.166073 = (656.56127 * 27.58106915) / Pi .. where; 656.56127 .. is the Grid POINT Value of "FACE ONE" @ Cydonia
on Mars (Munck, 1993, "The Code"). And, where; [(1440 * Pi) / 6.890283706] = 656.56127 .. right on the "nose".
And, where; 6.890283706 (min) E.Cydonia .. is the Grid LONG of "FACE ONE" .. east of the prime meridian that passes through the center of "The D&M Pyramid".
And, where; (1440 * Pi) = 4523.893421 North .. = 41(deg) * 11(min) * 10.03080581(sec) North.
Please note, above, the Grid LAT of The Chephren Pyramid ..
67858.40133 North .. = 29(deg) * 58(min) * 40.34387713(sec) .. on the north face.
If I divide this figure by the Pi constant ..
(67858.40133 / 3.141592654) = 21600 .. the exact Polar circumference
of Earth .. in nautical miles_and_in latitude arc-minutes.
This figure .. 21600 .. is also the Grid LAT of Stonehenge ..
(Munck, 1993, "The Code") .. = 51(deg) * 10(min) * 42.35294118(sec) North.
Munck's figure for the original (derived) Apex Height of The Chephren
Pyramid of Giza is .. (150 * Pi) = 471.238898 regular British feet.
Converting to Royal Cubits .. (471.238898 / 1.718873385) ..
= 274.1556779
Comparing_that_figure to Munck's (1993) figure for the Grid POINT Value of The Great Pyramid of Giza .. on the north face .. (274.1556779 / 248.0502134) = (Pi / 2.842446068) ..
Where; 2.842446068 = "ASM" Grid POINT Value of the North Galactic Node, or "Solar Apex" .. (Morton, 2001, Internet) .. where; (105760.4031/ 37207.53202) = 2.842446068 ..
And, where; 37202.53202 = "ASM" format of the base slope-angle
of The Great Pyramid of Giza ..
= 51(deg) * 51(min) * 14.30508728(sec) .. {Munck, 1993}.
And, where; 37207.53202 North of ecliptic ..
= 53(deg) * 26(min) * 27.00111177(sec) North of ecliptic.
And, where; 105760.4031 W.ALNITAK ..
= 173(deg) * 13(min) * 47.02552383(sec) W.ALNITAK.
{Morton, 2001, Internet}.
Please see database source .. a sidereal zodiac .. for Earth-sky-locations .. http://users.cwnet.com/~sidereal/mag/astfixst.htm
The "ASM" calculation-methodology is explained in detail .. with examples .. at .. http://matrix-messenger.tripod.com/index.htm
(Please see the articles with hyper-links, at the top of the website).
ALNITAK .. the belt-star in Orion .. serves as the "ASM" ecliptic prime
meridian "marker-star" .. as observed_from_Earth.
The "ASM" involves_Earth-sky_locations of prominent "fixed stars" ..
and also, Earth-sky locations such as 'Solar Apex' and 'Galactic Center'.
The "ASM" sky 'portion' is ecliptic-based .. and uses the sidereal zodiac,
with ALNITAK as ecliptic prime meridian "marker".
[ Munck's Grid LAT .. (1993) on the north face of The Great Pyramid of Giza, is ..
29(deg) * 58(min) * 53.09041429(sec) North ..
= 89298.07684 North ..
= 2880 * (Pi^3).
And, where; Grid LONG = 360 .. as Earth-surface prime meridian.
Thus .. Grid POINT Value = (89298.07694 / 360) = 248.0502134 = (2Pi)^3.]
The Surface Area on a Hemisphere is calculated using this standard formula ; 2Pi * (radius Squared).
If you simply substitute the_numerical value_of the Radian Arc constant .. assuming the 360 degrees system is_*encoded*_in the "ASM" ..
of .. 57.29577951 .. where; (360 / 2Pi = 57.29577951 arc-degrees) ..
then ..
2Pi * (57.29577951)^2 = 20626.48063 Square arc-degrees.
This_figure_is a decimal-harmonic of the 20.62648063 regular British
inches_*length*_of The Royal (Egyptian) Cubit .. as I have proposed ..
(Morton, 1998, Internet).
I think this_decimal-harmonic_is also encoded as the width of the floor of "The King's Chamber" inside The Great Pyramid of Giza .. as ..
206.6248063 regular British inches .. or .. 10 Royal Cubits.
I think the_length_of "The King's Chamber" is also encoding the polar
radius of Earth .. as .. 34.34774671 regular British feet ..
a decimal-harmonic of .. 3434.774671 nautical miles.
The Grid POINT Value of The Great Sphinx of Giza .. 5400 ..
(Munck, 1993) .. is encoding, apparently .. the arc-distance
on Earth from either pole to the equator .. in nautical miles.
The Grid POINT Value of "FACE ONE" at Cydonia on Mars ..
656.56127 .. (Munck, 1993) .. is precisely-related to the Pi constant ..
by way of another decimal-harmonic of the 20.62648063 regular British inches length of The Royal Cubit ..
(656.56127 * 3.141592654) = 2062.648063
So .. there is_very_strong, compelling evidence .. of the *encoding*
of the 360 arc-degrees system .. as well as the regular British inch, foot,
and statute mile .. along with the nautical mile .. and along with The Royal
Cubit .. within the "ASM" .. and this evidence is very prominent at Giza ..
in the original (derived) dimensions and in the precise_placement_of the
major pyramids there.
It is time that the Advisory Board of the "Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association" .. wake-up to the reality of the research and of the compelling evidence that I have only 'noted' in this email post.
-- Michael Lawrence Morton
From: markmccarron_it@hotmail.com
Mr Morton,
Right, it looks as though you require a lesson in mathematics and not only that but a lesson in common sense.
There is no challenge here, a few simple reasons can explain this:
1. The Royal cubit is NOT a fact, it is an assumed measurement based on evaluations on measurements around the Great Pyramid. Any reliance of this measurement can NEVER be verified and therefore useless.
2. There is NO evidence that the designers of the Great Pyramid used 360 divisions of a circle as a unit of measurement. In fact, the use of 360 is gregorian in origin, the romans developed it.
3. Any values that are encoded deliberately by any INTELLIGENT race into any object WOULD NEVER be specific to any unit of measure. The designing race can NEVER be assured that their units of measurement would be known by any decoding race. Therefore any fact encoded would be decodable by any unit of measure as the references are real world objects (such as planets, etc). There is NO requirement for me to know the original unit of measurement. This is known as anti-cryptography.
4. The mathematical relationships identified using the feet/360 are random in nature and do not follow any pattern or sequence. Therefore, the cannot be independently verified, or in other words, completely useless as evidence.
I resent the accusation that ANY member of the advisory board would be dishonest in regards to the truth of the Great Pyramid. We are people that have dedicated our lives to finding the truth. The integrity of members such as Chris Dunn, myself and others is beyond question.
You really need to go back and educate yourself on mathematical
communication concepts. Especially those relating to SETI as these offer
the best methods of VERIFYING an embedded code. The ONLY common ground that can be used to establish mathematical communication between two UNKNOWN groups is nature itself.
Also, you must learn anti-cryptography as this is a major premise in the mathematical design of the Great Pyramid.
This pyramid reads like a book, it has a defined beginning, middle and
ending to its mathematical story. It follows a logical, progressive pattern and values to not appear at random. Random values are useless as evidence.
You have 'fudged' your work, worse than that by not being honest about it and by not having educated yourself properly in this area, you have begun to delude yourself as to the existence of these mathematical relationships.
I believe you owe the advisory board, especially Chris Dunn, an apology for an attack on their integrity when it is quite clear that you are completely wrong.
If you have any true interest in providing the truth the world about Giza, you first must accept the truth that your work is incorrect. Otherwise, I can only conclude that yourself and others are out to deliberately mislead people as to the nature of the Great Pyramid.
In fact, our association exists to stop the 'alternative research community' being embarrassed and brought into disrepute because of 'nonsense research' like that.
Finally, please keep your feet firmly on planet Earth. I have checked with friends in NASA about the measurements provided for the region of Mars that you specified.
NASA has no such measurements, as the probes that recorded those regions where radar mapping only and there is no equipment in existence which, can be launched into space and measure the values that you referenced.
Sorry to be very blunt, but you really needed to be told.
Mark McCarron
Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association
From: ancient_vizier@yahoo.com
--- Mark McCarron << Mr Morton,
Right, it looks as though you require a lesson in mathematics and not only that but a lesson in common sense.
There is no challenge here, a few simple reasons can explain this:
3. Any values that are encoded deliberately by any INTELLIGENT race into any object WOULD NEVER be specific to any unit of measure. The designing race can NEVER be assured that their units of measurement
would be known by any decoding race. >>
Quite the contrary. If their ability to communicate
information is solely restricted to ratio, then they
are severely restricted. As a matter of fact, ratio
has its own shortcomings. Monkeys can draw circles in
the dirt with sticks. These circles will require the
Pi ratio for us to measure. Saying that monkeys are
intimately familiar with the Pi ratio as a result is a
terribly different thing. (Ironically, those are the
beginning lines of my usual introduction to the fact
that the architects of the Pyramid Matrix foresaw and
overcame the possibility of confusion there).
Yet it is possible for this race, which is actually
any and every ancient race since Munck's
geomathematical science is finding no exceptions thus
far, to use inherited measures any and all of which
may be keys to decoding information recorded as
*actual* measure rather than ratio...
And further possible that through the sheer volume of
incidents of the usage of those measures that they
become almost as imperishable as the monuments they
are to decode.
<< Therefore any fact encoded would be decodable by any unit of
measure as the references are real world objects (such as planets, etc).
There is NO requirement for me to know the original unit of measurement.
This is known as anti-cryptography. >>
Based on what *is* being found as recorded ratio,
however, the rest of what Michael is looking at is logical extrapolation.
<< 4. The mathematical relationships identified using the feet/360 are random in nature and do not follow any pattern or sequence. Therefore, the cannot be independently verified, or in other words, completely useless as
evidence. >>
They redundantly echo the geomathematics frequently
enough, but they are not solely dependent on that, and
much of the rest is simply logical. If we cannot force
ourselves to accept that the Egyptians were intimately
familiar with Pi to the tenth place, then we're often
forced to attempt to believe that they undertook
almost incomprehensible labors to build monuments to a
bad version of Pi. Your argument that the Egyptians
"did not use a 360 degree" system seems like simply a
layer on that kind of perhaps poorly-footed logic.
I cannot honestly understand why you are adverse to
the idea...
<< I resent the accusation that ANY member of the advisory board would be dishonest in regards to the truth of the Great Pyramid. We are people that
have dedicated our lives to finding the truth. The integrity of members
such as Chris Dunn, myself and others is beyond question. >>
I might grant that to Chris Dunn. On the other hand,
if I cannot find a one of the aforementioned who will
not have an honestly look at the work of Carl Munck, I
will definitely reconsider.
<< You really need to go back and educate yourself on
mathematical communication concepts. Especially those relating
to SETI as these offer the best methods of VERIFYING an embedded code. The ONLY common ground that can be used to establish mathematical communication between two UNKNOWN groups is nature itself. >>
The same nature that might encourage us that a circle
shall be measured as is practical, and rendering to
our preferences a rational out of a generic radian of
57.29577951 arc degrees via the Pi ratio. That might
be either 360* degrees or 720* degrees, since 180*
probably isn't quite enough. My digital software is
barely able to appreciate 720* That is literally its
maximum.
But I'm fairly content that even the mathematics we
are using is relatively inevitable because of the
elegance of the interactions in this kind of
framework. I certainly have no use for debating
whether base 12 mathematics is mandated for a race
with an extra finger on each hand, or that sort of
thing...
We are essentially looking at the likelihood that the
metrological keys to the encoded information would have
been, and were, faithfully and diligently handed down
to us. (Even in the case of Mars we would be most
likely talking about probably human heritage.) Case in
point, if there x number of units of ancient measure
applicable, we probably now know what most of them are
to within about .005-.01 feet, which includes the
Megalithic Yard.
I am beginning to work with different units of measure
within the Pyramid Matrix. I am not fully convinced
that the foot, the mile, and the Megalithic Yard were
the only valid measures in use. What I am seeing so
far encourages me that the selection of mathematical
values may accommodate a variety of measurements, which
may or may not have been in use because of such
relationships.
If this proves to be the case, that regardless of
which traditional unit of measure we employ, we get
meaningful mathematical results, your arguments would
mean that much less...
I don't believe there are any experts or authoritive
voices in that particular area, however. While the
foot and Megalithic Yard have been hugely successful
in Munck's system over 20 years of calculation, as of
several days ago when I took it upon myself to begin
exploring the question of what other units of measure
of length may have been applicable, there were not.
This pyramid reads like a book, it has a defined
beginning, middle and
ending to its mathematical story. It follows a
logical, progressive pattern
and values to not appear at random. Random values
are useless as evidence. >>
This is exactly what Munck has found, he is able to
read pyramids like they were books. The net results
are remarkably the same, essentially. In fact, I'm
nearly confused. You seem to be saying that the
methodology cannot produce meaningful results, yet has
it not produced results very similar to your own?
<< You have 'fudged' your work, worse than that by not
being honest about it and by not having educated yourself properly in this
area, you have begun to delude yourself as to the existence of these
mathematical relationships. >>
You have admonished Michael for being accusatory, and
then you set out on the same course, with a person
whose results might be seen as supportive of your own?
Yet I seem to infer you are very new to the work of
Mr. Munck and the work that follows.
<< In fact, our association exists to stop the
'alternative research community' being embarrassed and brought into disrepute because of 'nonsense research' like that. >>
<< Finally, please keep your feet firmly on planet
Earth. I have checked with
friends in NASA about the measurements provided for
the region of Mars that
you specified.
NASA has no such measurements, as the probes that
recorded those regions
where radar mapping only and there is no equipment
in existence which, can
be launched into space and measure the values that
you referenced. >>
Those figures are extrapolated from the Rand Control
Network that was used prior to the Mars Digital Image
Mosaic, which is presently used by Mars Global
Surveyor for targeting. If I am mistaken about that,
then the fact will be that those coordinates come from
the MDIM itself.
Just for the record, BTW, I could be mistaken, but I
am not aware of significant radar mapping of Mars,
especially as it concerns Martian geography. The MDIM
is visible range, Viking mission imagery.
I am also aware that those Mars coordinates remain as
nearly arbitrary even for the MDIM, and particularly
so for detractors. Munck is using logic to establish
what should be a calibration point for Martian
coordinates, whereas any detractors including the
operator of the MGS camera are applying nothing, and
ignoring both the fact that Mars possesses a five
sided pyramid that is well packed with significant
mathematical relationships, and that a monument of
this type and magnitude makes an ideal prime meridian
marker, as opposed to the illogic and relative
impermanence of Greenwich's marking.
But that is all besides the point. We can ignore the
Pyramid Matrix on Mars and it changes very little
indeed about what Munck has established.
<< Sorry to be very blunt, but you really needed to be
told. >>
<< Mark McCarron >>
If I may be very blunt, I encourage you to obtain some
of the materials in question, look them over
carefully, slowly, thoroughly, work with them, and
enjoy them. Try to avoid hasty responses to them,
critiques of the production values, and other
reactions that will probably try to come natural to
the discerning individual. Concentrate on the logic,
and the mathematics, and the intricate relationships
between the parts.
You may even find unsuspected support for your own
premises. That is so far what I see in work like Mr.
Dunn's, is that his findings are in my mind harmonious
with findings like Carl Munck's and Michael Morton's.
I sincerely hope you will be particularly careful with
that perception of harmony that underlies my esteem
for Mr. Dunn et al.
Respectfully yours,
From: dle33@swbell.net
Mark McCarron wrote:
<< Mr Morton,
Right, it looks as though you require a lesson in mathematics and not only that but a lesson in common sense. >>
Having met and worked in person with Michael Morton and having exchanged literally hundreds of e-mails and IM chats of correspondence, I can tell you for certain that his command of mathematics is astounding. There are few people with whom I've come in contact in almost 60 years of life who have the ability to commit to memory dozens of values to 8 or 9 decimal places as well as sums, roots and powers of those numbers. I have double checked many of these numbers personally with a calculator to find that MM is meticulous and highly accurate and dependable in his use of math.
There is no challenge here, a few simple reasons can explain this:
<< 1. The Royal cubit is NOT a fact, it is an assumed measurement based on evaluations on measurements around the Great Pyramid. Any reliance of this measurement can NEVER be verified and therefore useless. >>
The Royal Cubit is becoming a FACT. Any statement suggesting that it can NEVER be verified comes from arrogance and is evidence of a closed mind to what is possible much less probable.
<< 2. There is NO evidence that the designers of the Great Pyramid used 360 divisions of a circle as a unit of measurement. In fact, the use of 360 is gregorian in origin, the romans developed it. >>
This is absolutely and irrefutably incorrect. The Sumerians predate the Romans, and they had a command of the 360 degree system which includes knowledge which we are still rediscovering.
<< 3. Any values that are encoded deliberately by any INTELLIGENT race into any object WOULD NEVER be specific to any unit of measure. >>
How about the base ten counting system of which the present "intelligent race" uses?
How about the binary system of counting used in computing?
How about the sexigesimal counting system of the ancient Sumerians?
How about the "sacred numbers" and "sacred geometry" which redundantly
corroborate that a common knowledge permeates the ancient world.
You, sir, are the one who is out of touch; not the rest of the world.
<< The designing race can NEVER be assured that their units of measurement would be known by any decoding race. >>
Perhaps the usage and purposeful intent of the use of units of measure was for the benefit of the ones who used it without even a thought for whether successors would also benefit from it. Or maybe they realized that any "intelligent" successor would be able to use the information readily if they only open their mind to the possibility of what was rather than having a closed mind about what we think could or could not have occurred in the ancient past.
<< Therefore any fact encoded would be decodable by any unit of measure as the references are real world objects (such as planets, etc). >>
If you build an object using one set of units of measure, it is always possible to convert to another unit of measure using quite different units, but the math will never be quite as elegant in its appearance as with the original units due to fractions of units in the expression.
<< There is NO requirement for me to know the original unit of measurement. >>
However, if you do know the original unit of measure, it can reveal an elegance of design, structure, and simplicity not obtained by any other set of measurements.
<< This is known as anti-cryptography. >>
<< 4. The mathematical relationships identified using the feet/360 are random in nature and do not follow any pattern or sequence. Therefore, the cannot be independently verified, or in other words, completely useless as evidence. >>
Absence of your acquiescence does not equal absence of evidence.....
<< I resent the accusation that ANY member of the advisory board would be dishonest in regards to the truth of the Great Pyramid. We are people that have dedicated our lives to finding the truth. The integrity of members such as Chris Dunn, myself and others is beyond question. >>
There is absolutely no individual who is beyond question. This is not to say that all people are dishonest....but it is to say that all people can make
mistakes and are subject to learning if they but open their minds to truth.
<< You really need to go back and educate yourself on mathematical
communication concepts. Especially those relating to SETI as these offer
the best methods of VERIFYING an embedded code. The ONLY common ground that can be used to establish mathematical communication between two UNKNOWN groups is nature itself. >>
Did nature provide the link of human and chimp using sign language? Or was it intelligence and desire to rise above the assumption that the chimp is simply not intelligent enough to be worthy of an attempt? Do we use mathematical concepts only for the purpose of encoding information so that chimps might one day learn how smart we are? On the contrary, most of us don't much care whether
chimps ever use computers, but we go about our own purposeful work on our own
behalf...
<< Also, you must learn anti-cryptography as this is a major premise in the mathematical design of the Great Pyramid. >>
And what if someone else discovers facts and truth about the Great Pyramid? Will you forever deny that it can be possible due to the fact that it "wasn't invented here"?
<< This pyramid reads like a book, it has a defined beginning, middle and ending to its mathematical story. It follows a logical, progressive pattern and values to not appear at random. Random values are useless as evidence. >>
It has an assumed story which is being modified by discovery. Discovery which cannot forever be denied as evidence of fact and truth. Its detractors may have to die off before the truth can be revealed, but truth is patient and irreversible in its course though its detractors may hide and distort it temporarily.
<< You have 'fudged' your work, worse than that by not being honest about it and by not having educated yourself properly in this area, you have begun to delude yourself as to the existence of these mathematical relationships. >>
Fudged? Possibly to a small degree.
(Note: Possible unforeseen appearance of fudging due to the nature of the spiral path inherent in the ASM instead of great circles- MetPhys).
However, there appears to be an overriding ring of truth and meaningfulness to the story which is being told by line of sight alignments and by math and by ancient "myths" and by ancient art and sculpture. I'd much rather believe the redundantly corroborated story than
one which is built on assumptions lacking the redundant corroboration.
<< I believe you owe the advisory board, especially Chris Dunn, an apology for an attack on their integrity when it is quite clear that you are completely wrong. >>
I have deep respect for the work of Chris Dunn...especially the evidence which proves machining with feedrates and accuracy disproving the old assumptions
about hand labor. However, when others deny this evidence in favor of obsolete "knowledge", my respect does not spill over into that area. This is not a question of integrity so much as a need for providing evidence of theories. Let's stop pointing fingers and open our minds to truth, shall we?
<< If you have any true interest in providing the truth (to) the world about Giza, you first must accept the truth that your work is incorrect. Otherwise, I can only conclude that yourself and others are out to deliberately mislead people as to the nature of the Great Pyramid. >>
Truth is not the property of one individual nor group but the collective body of evidence which can be brought to bear upon a subject. I can speak for MM in that he is not motivated by dishonesty to mislead anyone. His information may be incomplete or even inaccurate but not deliberate untruth. So can your work be incomplete and inaccurate whether or not your purpose is to tell the whole truth.
<< In fact, our association exists to stop the 'alternative research community' being embarrassed and brought into disrepute because of 'nonsense research' like that. >>
Wow....an association to stop learning and heretical research...what a noble purpose. I humbly suggest, sir, that your "association" is doomed to failure when the flat earth and earthcentric universe come crashing down around your ears.
<< Finally, please keep your feet firmly on planet Earth. I have checked with friends in NASA about the measurements provided for the region of Mars that you specified. >>
Why? Why not look at the sky as one would see it from a spacecraft on approach to Earth from Nibiru (as is seen on the ceiling of the Temple of Denderah)? Why confine ourselves to thinking inside a box...any box? Are we afraid of what we might find?
<< NASA has no such measurements, as the probes that recorded those regions where radar mapping only and there is no equipment in existence which, can be launched into space and measure the values that you referenced. >>
And what is your source of knowledge of all that is in existence?
<< Sorry to be very blunt, but you really needed to be told. >>
Blunt? Yes. Arrogant? Yes. Wrong? Probably. Is MM onto something? Definitely.
<< Mark McCarron
Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association
Damon Elkins
Just another in the "alternative research community" who has some very exciting discovery that your "association" by its very existence attempts to stop. Evidence, logic, and redundant corroboration will win out in telling the truth of our past. The truth of much of the "rest of the story" is just beginning to be known.
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Subject: Pyramid Measured in Feet/360 degrees
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