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Lebanon is
suffering because of the actions of outsiders
and on the orders of outsiders.
If Iran wants to fight Israel, let Iranians do it from their own country
and watch Iran be destroyed.
Enough is enough. Let Lebanon live in peace

Photo of child holding a sign: "wake up! We are
getting killed"
Lebanese are tired of other countries choosing to fight a war on
Lebanese turf.
It is easy to blame Israel, but what about blaming Arab countries also.
Enough is enough. Lebanon deserves to live in peace.
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Bashar al-Assad,
President of Syria, left, with Prime Minister of Lebanon Rafik Hariri
in Damascus in August.
Members of Lebanon's anti-Syrian opposition now see the meeting as
fateful.
Reports indicate that Assad threatened Hariri during that meeting
THE U.S. MARINES
LANDED IN LEBANON IN 1958
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Hezbollah, Israel swap corpses on Lebanon border
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Prisoner
swap
July 16, 2008Kuntar vows to continue
his 'resistance' against Israel
By Anshel Pfeffer,
Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and AP
Hezbollah Eldad Regev
Convicted terrorist Samir Kuntar on Wednesday vowed
to continue his 'resistance' against Israel, speaking at a Beirut
rally welcoming his return and that of four Hezbollah men Israel
released as part of a swap deal with the Lebanon-based guerilla group.
"I returned today from Palestine but believe me I will not return
until I go back to Palestine," he told the roaring crowd. "I promise
my people and dear ones in Palestine that I and my dear comrades in
the valiant Islamic resistance are returning."
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, addressing the same rally, declared
that there would be no more defeats at the hand of Israel
The age of defeats is gone, and the age of
victories has come. This people, this nation gave a great and clear
image today to its friends and enemies that it cannot be defeated,"
Nasrallah told tens of thousands of cheering supporters.
Shortly before being whisked away by bodyguards, Nasrallah said
Hezbollah had achieved its two major goals since the end of the Second
Lebanon War, to gain the release of all Lebanese prisoners in Israel
and form a national unity government from the country's fractured
political parties.
Large banners behind him read "divine victory" and "God's achievement
by our hands." Earlier in the day, Hezbollah transferred to Israel
Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, the Israel Defense Forces soldiers
kidnapped by its guerillas in a cross-border raid that sparked the
2006 war.
The Shi'ite leader kissed and hugged each of the five men in his first
public appearance since January. Nasrallah, who only appeared for the
third time in public since the war fearing Israeli assassination,
later addressed the crowd from a secret location on a giant projection
screen.
Earlier Wednesday evening, hundreds of spectators turned out to
celebrate at a red carpet and honor guard welcome as the five made
their first public appearance in the southern Lebanon border town of
Naqoura.
The five, clad in combat fatigues, walked behind militants carrying
the Palestinian, Lebanese and Hezbollah flags. They were greeted by
Hezbollah officials and Muslim clerics as they stood at a podium.
President Shimon Peres denounced the red carpet treatment, drawing a
comparison between the behavior of Israelis, mourning the two Israel
Defense Forces soldiers whose
bodies were returned after two years
as part of the swap, and what he called Lebanese "dancing and
drumming."
The Lebanese government declared Wednesday a national holiday to
celebrate the "liberation of prisoners from the jails of the Israeli
enemy and the return of the remains of martyrs."
In the exchange, Israel also handed over almost 200 bodies of
Palestinian and Lebanese fighters.
Coffins containing the bodies of Regev and Goldwasser were delivered
to the Israel-Lebanon border on Wednesday morning by Hezbollah. They
were later delivered to an army camp in northern Israel, where their
families were waiting.
On the Lebanese side of the Rosh Hanikra Israel-Lebanon border
crossing, Hezbollah erected a platform upon which to honor Kuntar.
Lebanese, Palestinian and Hezbollah flags were hung above the stage.
A former cellmate of Samir Kuntar, Jaber Weshah, who is now deputy
director of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights in Gaza, said:
"Today is a true day of joy for all Palestinians and all freedom
lovers across the world."
Related articles:
Peres pardons Kuntar, says 'no forgiveness in my
decision'
Report: One of IDF soldiers to be swapped was
killed in kidnapping
Mother of Kuntar victim: How can you pardon him?
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Prisoner swap reopens wounds on all sides
Soldiers' families hope for end to
'nightmare' as exchange between Israel, Hezbollah set to take place
today
CAROLYNNE WHEELER
Special to The Globe and Mail
July 16, 2008
HAIFA, ISRAEL
-- As dawn breaks this morning on the long-awaited prisoner swap between
Israel and Hezbollah, a young newlywed will steel herself to receive her
husband's coffin. A family will prepare to welcome a long-imprisoned
brother and son. And a people will celebrate a young woman as a martyr
to their cause.
Barring last-minute complications, today's
swap on Israel's northern border marks an end to the kidnapping of two
Israeli soldiers two years ago and the subsequent 34-day war that killed
more than 1,300 people in two countries. But not to the political
turmoil that has plagued those countries ever since.
In Israel, the return of Ehud Goldwasser and
Eldad Regev - both of whom are presumed dead - is a painful conclusion
to a lengthy debate: At what price must no soldier be left behind?
And in Lebanon, the swap will be celebrated
as a victory for the militant Shia Muslim group Hezbollah for the
release of five Lebanese prisoners, including Samir Kuntar, held for
nearly 30 years in an Israeli prison for killing an Israeli father and
his daughter. Also being returned are the bodies of 199 Lebanese and
Palestinian guerrillas, and among those requested by Palestinian and
Lebanese leader was Palestinian refugee and guerrilla Dalal Mughrabi,
who took the lives of 36 Israelis in a gruesome bus hijacking 1979 and
became an icon in the process. It was unclear last night, however,
whether her remains would be included.
"It's not a happy day for anyone, releasing
murderers of this sort," Israeli President Shimon Peres said yesterday.
"But we have a moral and emotional obligation to bring the fighters
home. This is what we've always done."
The swap, brokered by a United
Nations-appointed German mediator, has taken months of difficult
negotiation, punctuated by small gestures from each side - the
deportation of a Hezbollah spy by Israel, the return of the remains of
Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah, and this weekend the submission of an
80-page report on Ron Arad, the Israeli navigator captured when his
plane went down over Lebanon in 1986, and whose death had never been
confirmed.
Through those months, the Regev and
Goldwasser families have maintained a vigorous campaign to win the
soldiers' release in a country where leaders go to great lengths to
ensure every soldier is brought home.
When the prisoner swap commences this morning
at the Rosh Hanikra/Naquora crossing, the two soldiers are to be
returned first. The Red Cross is to post doctors on either side, just in
case they turn out to be alive.
If they are immediately recognizable, the
exchange will proceed, with Israel formally releasing Mr. Kuntar and
four Lebanese militants captured in 2006.
If not, the process is to be delayed by DNA
testing on their remains, which is expected to take three hours.
The transfer of bodies from Israel is to
follow.
In Mr. Kuntar's home village of Aabay in
Lebanon, the celebration planning began weeks ago, as soon as word
emerged that a prisoner swap was close. But first he will travel to
Beirut by presidential helicopter, where he'll be received in a formal
ceremony at Rafik Hariri International Airport by senior Lebanese
government officials. A massive celebration in Beirut's predominantly
Shiite southern suburbs will follow, topped off with a speech by
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Mr. Kuntar travels to his home village
tomorrow for more celebrations.
"It will be a hero's welcome and we are proud
to be at the centre of such a happy event," Mr. Kuntar's brother Bassem
said in a telephone interview. "My mother has been cooking and preparing
for days. The village will be dancing and celebrating like no other
occasion. ... The resistance has won and we are extremely proud."
The sole survivor of Mr. Kuntar's 1979 attack
on Nahariya, Smadar Haran Kaiser, has refused to publicly condemn the
release of the man responsible for the deaths of her husband and two
daughters.
But that is not the only bloody moment in the
Arab-Israeli conflict dredged up in this deal. This afternoon, there is
to be a celebration in Dalal Mughrabi's honour in the West Bank city of
Ramallah. It's slated as a wedding for the unwed 19-year-old nurse who
helped hijack an Israeli bus, and died when the attackers blew it up.
Her body is expected to be transferred back to Lebanon.
"Dalal is a heroine who exemplifies
patriotism and nationalism," said Fahmi Zaroor, head of the Fatah
party's youth movement in Ramallah, which is planning the celebration.
"There are many songs that talk about the heroic acts of Dalal. She has
become a symbol of the strong Palestinian woman."
Beyond the emotion of the actual exchange,
this morning's handover is also a difficult reminder to both Israelis
and Lebanese that negotiations have achieved what the 34-day war did
not.
Yet the fallout of that war continues.
Israel's perceived failures in that conflict brought down a defence
minister and its army's chief of staff, and has left Prime Minister Ehud
Olmert fighting for his political career.
In Lebanon, Hezbollah emerged from the fight
of the summer of 2006 more popular than ever, giving it the clout to
force a power-sharing agreement that grants it a veto in cabinet.
However, for the two families, the soldiers'
return will at least put to rest the agonizing question of whether their
loved ones are dead or alive.
"I really hope this nightmare will end
tomorrow," Zvi Regev, father of Eldad, told Israel Radio last night. "We
will accept whatever will be. We need to be strong and to accept it."
High-profile
prisoners, famous fighters
Israel is set to exchange five Lebanese
prisoners and the bodies of 199 Lebanese and Palestinian fighters for
the return today of two Israeli soldiers, presumed dead. These are the
four best-known figures involved in the swap.
SAMIR KUNTAR
A Lebanese prisoner held by the Jewish state
since 1979, he is by far the longest-serving of those on record. In
1979, at the age of 17, he and three others, recruited by a Palestinian
militant group fighting an Israeli incursion into Lebanon, launched a
small boat from the tip of Lebanon's southern coast and came ashore at
the northern Israeli town of Nahariya. There, they killed a police
officer they encountered and took a family of four hostage in an
apartment. The father and one of his two daughters were killed. The
other daughter was suffocated as her mother tried to keep her quiet to
avoid detection
DALAL MUGHRABI
The first famous female fighter, an icon of
the Palestinian resistance, Dalal Mughrabi was 19 years old in 1978,
when she told her parents she was going to visit friends and left their
Beirut apartment for the last time.
On that fateful mission, she led 11 other
militants by boat from south Lebanon into northern Israel where they
captured a bus and tried to drive it to Tel Aviv and ram it into the
Israeli parliament. Trapped by an Israeli army unit, Dalal fought for a
dozen hours before destroying the bus and many of those inside. Dalal's
attack killed about 70 Israelis, including about 35 civilians. She was
also killed.
EHUD GOLDWASSER
He had finished his compulsory army service
several years earlier and on July 12, 2006, was on the last day of an
annual, obligatory month-long tour of duty near the Lebanese-Israeli
border when he and comrade Eldad Regev were ambushed and seized by
Hezbollah fighters who had crossed into Israeli territory.
Their capture set off a fierce 34-day war
with Lebanon. No proof of life has ever been received and evidence at
the scene suggested at least one succumbed to injuries not long after
the kidnapping. But their families have clung to the hope that they
might still be alive.ELDAD REGEV
After completing three years of military
service in the elite Givati Brigade, Mr. Regev enrolled in Bar Ilan
University's prelaw preparatory course. He was called up for military
reserve duty after completing his exams in the preparatory course, and
was abducted during that period.
Sources: The Globe
and Mail, Time, habanim.org
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Can Resolution 1701 last much longer?
By Michael Young
Daily Star staff
Thursday, July 17, 2008
So, Israel's defense
minister,
Ehud Barak, is now saying that United Nations Security Council
Resolution 1701 is dead. It's not absolutely dead, but Israel's
reluctance to facilitate a solution in the Shebaa Farms area, like
its willingness to conclude a grand prisoner bargain with Hizbullah
that handed the party a fine victory, will certainly help dismantle
what remains of the security framework set up after the summer 2006
war.
There are two Lebanese
approaches for dealing with Israel today. There is the one advocated
publicly by
Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and MP Walid Jumblatt that calls
for a return to the 1949 Armistice Agreement. Then there is
Hizbullah's proposal, which is to pursue an open-ended armed
struggle against Israel. Siniora wants to see the Shebaa Farms
neutralized as a space of confrontation; Hizbullah has said that
whatever solution is found in the farms area, the resistance will
continue. Israel's actions have bolstered those who support the
second option, in the same way that its inflexibility on releasing
Palestinian prisoners has bolstered those Palestinians who argue
that the best way to resolve that issue is to kidnap or kill
Israelis, then haggle over them or their body parts.
The Hizbullah-Israel swap on
Wednesday was surrounded by substantial hypocrisy. March 14 and
Siniora lustily applauded an exchange that they knew was to their
disadvantage. Jumblatt, faced with Samir Kontar's release, decided
it was best to co-opt the released prisoner as best he could,
because he had no alternative as paramount Druze leader but to
welcome his coreligionist, but also to avoid Kontar's being used
against him politically by Hizbullah. However, in the Sunni and
Christian neighborhoods, as in the Druze mountains, few danced in
the "national wedding" that Hizbullah celebrated. Many could plainly
see that what the party had gained, they had lost.
Who can blame them, coming
only two days after Bashar Assad was the darling of Paris - thanks
to the efforts of the former Lebanese minister Michel Samaha, who
handled the media aspect of Assad's trip, and to the French
government, so indecently eager to wipe the Syrian president's slate
clean. To the narcissistic
Nicolas Sarkozy, a man willing to trade in the essential for the
limelight, it was also a good weekend. He may not have gotten a
single serious concession out of Assad, but at least he showed he
was different than
Jacques Chirac, an obsession of his, by trashing the former
president's diplomatic achievements in Lebanon.
After the fanfare in Paris,
the Syrians quietly explained that an exchange of embassies between
Beirut and Damascus might actually take more time than expected. In
Assad's meeting with President Michel Sleiman, the Syrian president
didn't even mention delimiting the Syrian-Lebanese border. The
reality is that the Assad regime has not budged one iota in its
policy toward Lebanon since 2005. Indeed, it has very likely not
given up on physically returning its army to the country, even if
this is more difficult than it sounds, and those who suggest that
Damascus only seeks influence in Beirut might want to consider why
this is unconvincing.
The Syrian regime doesn't
want the Shebaa Farms imbroglio resolved because it seeks to tie in
any settlement over the
Golan Heights to one in Lebanon. Without this linkage, Syria
fears that a prior solution on the Lebanese track would block
Hizbullah's ability to attack Israel from
South Lebanon, which Syria wishes to use as leverage in its
negotiations over the Golan. But for Syria to have real control of
the Hizbullah card - an essential ingredient in strengthening its
credibility in talks with Israel - it must also prove that it has
the means to restrain the party. And Assad can only do that if his
army is physically present in Lebanon.
Why would Hizbullah go along
with this? Because it understands that such a strategy allows it to
undermine Resolution 1701, which is also a Syrian priority. But also
because a renewed Syrian military presence in Lebanon would shield
Hizbullah against that majority of Lebanese that seeks its
disarmament. In addition, the party's leadership is wagering that
Syria is more interested in a process of negotiation with Israel
than in a final settlement; and, most tellingly, Hizbullah seems
confident that, even if a final settlement does eventually come,
Syria will not have the military capability, let alone the will, to
stifle the resistance.
How will the UN respond to
defend Resolution 1701? Let's try not to laugh. France knows very
well that Syria has violated all UN resolutions on Lebanon since
2004, particularly Resolution 1701. The French also happen to
provide an important contingent to UNIFIL, which is there to
implement Resolution 1701, a contingent with large Leclerc tanks
that will occasionally fire shells into the empty sea. But Syrian
behavior hasn't prevented Sarkozy from obstinately pursuing Assad.
If you were Syria or Hizbullah, therefore, would you fear a French
reaction, or that of other European states, to your efforts to
emasculate UN resolutions?
Even in the halls of the
European Parliament, Hizbullah's weight is being felt. An effort
by some European parliamentarians to encourage the European Union to
place Hizbullah on its terrorism list is now being actively opposed
by Socialist representatives. Two of them recently sent out an
e-mail to their comrades urging them not to vote in favor of the
decision, as the issue was "sensitive" and the European Parliament
"has stressed the importance to find a political solution on the
Lebanese internal conflict and the agreement between all the
Lebanese political parties, including Hezbollah, has been considered
as a positive step."
What the e-mail did not say
is that the European contingents in Lebanon are now hostages to
Syria and Hizbullah rather than enforcers of the
Security Council's writ. The UN needs an open channel to
Hizbullah, which is why many in Europe oppose the terrorism
designation. But with Israel doing everything it can to strengthen
Syria's hand in Lebanon, and indirectly that of Hizbullah; with the
collapse of the European position on Lebanese sovereignty and UN
resolutions; and with the US utterly absent from Lebanon as its
presidential election nears, we have to be realistic. The
independence intifada is over and Syria has entered a new phase in
its effort to re-create in Lebanon what it was made to surrender in
2005.
Michael Young is opinion editor of THE DAILY
STAR.
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Extended Deployment for Korean Troops in
Lebanon 7-16-08
The National Assembly on
Wednesday authorized extending the deployment of Korean soldiers in Lebanon.
With the decision Korea's Dongmyeong Unit will consist of 359 soldiers and
continue its peacekeeping operation in Tyre, about 80 km south of the
Lebanese capital Beirut.
The Korean troops have been working with the United Nations for the
reconstruction of the war-ravaged Middle Eastern country for nearly a year
among other civil-military missions. The UN requested the Korean government
for more contribution to its peacekeeping operations due to the nation's
economic success.
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WE ARE SUPPORTING BOTH SIDES AS USUAL
US Central Command
officer visits Lebanon, announces new funding
Daily Star staff
Wednesday, July 16,
2008
BEIRUT: Major General Robert
R. Allardice, director of strategy, plans and policy for the US
military's
Central Command visited Lebanon July 13 through July 15, a
statement issued by the US Embassy said Tuesday. Bill Grant, the
embassy's deputy chief of mission, and Allardice met with the
Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) command officers during the visit.
Allardice and Grant also announced that the US government has
increased its support to the LAF by $32.5 million.
"The overall goal of US
military assistance to Lebanon is to strengthen the LAF and increase
its capacity to defend Lebanon's borders," the embassy statement
claimed.
The statement added that the
United States was committed to building the capabilities of the LAF
"and it will continue to support the government of Lebanon and the
LAF as they continue their efforts to safeguard the peace, unity and
sovereignty of Lebanon."
"With this new funding
allocation, total US support for the LAF since 2006 exceeds $410
million," the embassy statement said. - The
Daily Star
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2 Killed, 7 Wounded in
Baalbek Shootout
7-16-08
Two people were killed and
seven others, including two Lebanese army soldiers, were wounded in an
overnight shootout in east Lebanon's city of Baalbek, security sources said.
They said the shooting was triggered by a
"personal quarrel" in al-Ain near Baalbek in which Raifeh Saleh, 52, was
killed and three other people were wounded, including the town's mayor,
Youssef Jaafar, 47.
The sources said a military vehicle which was
transporting the wounded to hospital came under fire near the town of Nabi
Othman on the road leading to Baalbek, prompting Lebanese troops to return
fire.
A man was killed and four people, including two
soldiers, were wounded in the exchange of fire, according to the sources.
Beirut, 01 Jul 08, 09:32
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Excerpted from the Washington Times - July 1, 2008
When the rogue Khomeini regime
returned to Iran
from Paris and eventually took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in
November 1979, the Carter administration had basically no intelligence
on the
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini or the radical fundamentalist agenda.
President Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious man who had to be
better than the shah of Iran, even though the shah represented the
cornerstone of our Persian Gulf security policy.
The conventional wisdom then in the Carter administration
was that the one institution that would survive the regime change in
Iran would be the military. We could use our close relationship with
the Iranian military leadership to build a new relationship with the
Khomeini regime. In fact, President Carter in January 1979 sent Gen.
Robert Huyser, deputy commander in chief of the United States European
Command as his personal envoy to intercede with the Iranian military
leadership not to interfere with the regime change. This sophomoric
analysis abruptly halted when the Khomeini regime put a bullet into the
back of the head of the Iranian military leadership.
At the time of our embassy takeover, our military options
were somewhat limited, but we certainly had the capability to capture
and hold Kharg Island, Iran's main fuel export depot, which would have
given us leverage in freeing our diplomats and retaking our embassy.
During the Reagan administration, certain key players still
did not understand the extent of the radical Islamic fundamentalist
agenda. Some still thought it to be more a law enforcement than a
military problem. The U.S. Marine barracks bombing in Beirut Oct. 23,
1983, never had to happen. The National Security Agency (NSA) had the
information almost four weeks before the attack that the Iranian
Ambassador in Damascus, Ali Akbar Mohtashamipoor, acting on orders
received from the Foreign Ministry, called in the leader of the Islamic
Amal (which later evolved into Hezbollah) and gave him instructions to
concentrate his attacks on the Multi-National Force (MNF), but to take
a "spectacular" action against the U.S. Marines.
As deputy chief of naval operations, I never got to see
that message until two days after the attack. By way of background, the Islamic Amal had taken over the
Lebanese Army barracks above Baalbeck on Sept. 16, 1983.
Had we a pro-active, pre-emptive strategy in place, the Islamic Amal
could have been eliminated prior to the bombing. Of course other
options could also have been implemented.
Iran has continued to wage war against the
United States by using proxies for the last 29 years. Since
November 1979, we have failed to attack the problem. We have let Iran
continue their war against the United States with impunity. Iran proper
has been a sanctuary.
Our combat forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are combating
Shi'ite militia that are funded, trained and armed by Iran. Compounding
the problem are the weapons and ammunitions the Chinese provide Iran
that are then passed to the Shi'ite militias in Iraq and the Taliban in
Afghanistan. Surface-to-air missiles (Manpads of Chinese origin),
Chinese-made large-caliber sniper rifles, rocket-propelled grenades
(RPGs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) that have been so deadly
to our troops have been convoyed from Iran into Iraq and to the Taliban
in Afghanistan. China's objectives are quite clear - keep the U.S.
bogged down in the Middle East while they expand their objectives and
influence in the Western Pacific.
The limited economic sanctions imposed by the United
Nations, the European Union and the United States have not had any
significant impact on changing Iran's behavior or their drive to
achieve a nuclear weapon capability. Most recently, Ali Larijani, the
speaker of Iran's parliament, warned that Iran is prepared to take
drastic steps and unspecified moves that the West would regret in
response to economic, political and military pressure being brought
against Iran. However, one economic sanction that could convey the
seriousness of the United Nations and European Union would be to deny
Iranian airline access to Europe because they are unsafe and do not
meet ICAO standards. Other international carriers could curtail their
flights to Iran as part of this sanction.
I believe we have reached a point where the U.S. needs to
make its position quite clear. We need to declare that:
• Any attack against U.S. Naval forces will be viewed as an
attack against the continental United States and the full force of our
military capabilities will be brought to bear.
• Unless there is an immediate cessation to train, arm and
supplying various weapons, including IEDs, to Iraq Shi'ite militias and
the Taliban, then those training facilities, weapon factories including
the IED factory, will be subject to attack. This could be part of an
all-inclusive attack to eliminate their missile and nuclear complexes.
Underpinning the above actions would be a declaration of a
U.S. pro-active, pre-emptive strategy to defeat radical Islamic
fundamentalist terrorism. It is based on the premise that you cannot
wait until the terrorist strike. Obviously, we have to have the
intelligence to prevent the cowardly act from happening.
It is unconscionable that we have tolerated a declaration
of war by Iran against the United States for the last 29 years, which
has given rise to the radical fundamentalist terrorism we face today.
This is not the legacy we want to leave for our future generations.
James Lyons, U.S. Navy retired admiral, was commander in
chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, senior U.S. military representative to
the United Nations, and deputy chief of naval operations, where he was
principal adviser on all Joint Chiefs of Staff matters.
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Lebanon MP : We don't trust Hezbollah !
Published: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008 @
10:18 PM in Beirut
Beirut- MP Jamal Jarrah said Hezbollah should withdraw all its
heavy weapons and gunmen from the hills of the eastern Bekaa so
that clashes would not break out anew in the Saadnayel-Taanayel
area.
Jarrah, in an interview with Naharnet, said "we have no
confidence in them (Hezbollah) anymore ... but we trust the
Lebanese army, even if it had failed.""Despite the lack of
confidence we stretched our hand anew through the Lebanese army
that had promised us to supervise reconciliation," Jarah said.
"But if aggressions persisted and if they maintained, just
maintained and not used, their heavy weapons in the hills of
Saadnayel and Taalabaya and if they maintained the deployment of
a large number of gunmen brought in from other areas, friction
would renew and tension would persist," he added.
Jarrah said "we were very clear with the army. We informed
the army that there is no need for such heavy weapons in the
hills."
He accused Hezbollah of "deceiving the army. They had told
the army that heavy weapons and gunmen had been fully pulled
out, but it was evident that this is not true."
Jarrah warned that the "citizens of Saadnayel and Taalabaya
would not be left alone (if attacked by Hezbollah once again).
Citizens of the central, western and even northern Bekaa would
rush to their aid."
That, according to the Mustaqbal Bloc member, would expose
"Hezbollah's role in a Syrian intelligence scheme to spark
inter-factional clashes in the Bekaa."
He explained that Hezbollah has been targeting the
Saadnayel-Taalabaya sector because it commands the road that
leads from its stronghold in Baalbek to south Lebanon.
Jarrah emphasized that "we do not have a militia, we don't
have weapons and capabilities to protect our people."
"It is the army's duty and responsibility to protect the
citizens. The Army Command pledged that as of Tuesday its troops
would be in charge of security, and anyone who opens fire, from
any side, would be punished," Jarrah said.
The Clashes, according to Jarrah, were an "attempt by
Hezbollah to target President Michel Suleiman's term as well as
the state and its institutions.
Hezbollah leader targeted the president the same day he moved
to the Republican Palace."
"Hezbollah has its own army and its own state and has no
interest in supporting the state of Lebanon," he concluded.
The Doha Accord, According to Jarrah, is made up of two
chapters "The security chapter is being blocked and the
political chapter that is also being blocked by obstructing the
cabinet formation."
Hezbollah "went to Doha not to achieve an agreement, but to
blame what had happened on the majority and then resume
implementing its scheme. But Arab and international pressures
forced Hezbollah to Facilitate President Suleiman's election,"
he concluded.
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LEBANON REMAINS BATTLEGROUND FOR THOSE SEEKING TO
DESTABILIZE REGION IN EFFORT
TO ESTABLISH DOMINANCE, SPECIAL ENVOY TELLS
SECURITY COUNCIL
No Tangible Progress towards Implementation
Of Resolution 1559 (2004), Roed-Larsen
Reports in Briefing on Middle East
MAY 8, 2008
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2008/sc9326.doc.htm
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TWO YEARS BREAK IN NEWS -
GOOGLE NEWS ABOUT LEBANON, HEZBOLLAH, BAALBECK, AND ISRAEL
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August 18, 2006
TRANSCRIPT: Seymour Hersh: Was Hezbollah a
model for U.S. plans to bomb Iran?
Submitted by Mitch
Dworkin on August 18, 2006 - 8:24am.
Iran
Hello Everyone:Here is the link to Seymour Hersh's
New Yorker article titled "WATCHING LEBANON, Washington’s
interests in Israel’s war" from 8/14/06:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060821fa_fact
Please see the CNN transcript below from 8/16/06 where Hersh
claims "I know more than I did three days ago."
Each person will have to decide for themselves the validity
of Hersh's claims. But if they are true, the only think that can
restrain Bush and Cheney from bombing Iran without sufficient
diplomatic efforts is the Democrats controlling at least one
branch of Congress!
If Bush has a rubber stamp Congress in both branches after
November, what else can stop him from bombing Iran or anyone else
who he does not like without sufficient diplomacy?
The use of force should be on the table BUT as a last, last,
last resort until ALL possible diplomatic efforts fail and there
is some kind of a serious imminent threat!
Please forward this on for people to see that a vote for ANY
Bush rubber stamp candidate in November is a vote for a lack of
accountability which can possibly allow this to happen if Hersh is
right!
Mitch Dworkin
http://www.securingamerica.com/
http://www.securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7191
Listen to Gen. Wes Clark fight for Dems on Sean Hannity's radio
program:
An excellent example for all of us to follow and what we all
need to be doing to help fight against extreme right wing Neocon
smear propaganda which will help our local candidates to win their
races!
http://securingamerica.com/webb
Gen. Wes Clark's endorsement of Jim Webb against George Allen
http://www.webbforsenate.com/
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/16/acd.01.html
ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Aired August 16, 2006 - 22:00 ET
BLITZER: Tonight, a bombshell accusation about the war in
the Middle East. And it comes from a Pulitzer Prize-winning
investigative journalist.
Seymour Hersh of "The New Yorker" magazine says the White
House wasn't just watching the battle unfold; it may have been
helping Israel against Hezbollah. I spoke to Seymour Hersh
earlier.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
BLITZER: Sy Hersh, you've written a powerful article. It's
really generating a huge commotion here in the Middle East and
Israel in the Arab world.
For those of our viewers who haven't read it, the bottom
line is what, that the United States fully not only cooperated
with Israel but was in on it with Israel, the launching of this --
these air strikes against Hezbollah after July 12 when those two
Israeli soldiers were kidnapped.
SEYMOUR HERSH, "THE NEW YORKER": Yes. And of course, what
happened happened. They were kidnapped, and that was the reason
Israel went. But the reason it went so big is that there had been
a lot of talk about doing something about Hezbollah in a major way
for months with -- in coordination between Israel and the United
States.
Both air forces -- Halutz (ph) is a believer in strategic
bombing and the American Air Force is a believer in strategic
bombing and the Cheney office, the vice president's office, also
another believer in strategic bombing.
BLITZER; Here in Israel, what they're saying is -- and I got
this from pretty high sources -- that yes, the Bush administration
clearly from day one, July 12, supported Israel and provided
Israel with military assistance, as they always do, but there was
no coordination in advance. That's what they're suggesting.
HERSH: Well, coordination may be too strong. But what there
was, was a definite feeling by Cheney and some of this, what we
call the neoconservatives, that once Israel smashed Hezbollah with
-- by air, and that was the idea, hit the infrastructure first,
bomb -- bomb, you know, the runways in Beirut and some of the city
structures so that the population of Beirut, the Christians and
the Sunnis, would turn against Hezbollah, why that would be a
model for what they really think -- the only plan they have for
Iran.
Whether they're going to go to Iran or not, I don't know.
But I do know there's intensive planning and intensive debate in
the Pentagon whether or not you can take out Iran by air.
So this would have been a step in the right direction. As I
quote somebody saying, it was seen as a demo.
BLITZER: Let me quote from the article. Because this is a
major point in the piece in "The New Yorker". You write that
Israel's bombing campaign -- and I'll quote here -- "also served
as a prelude to a potential American preemptive attack to destroy
Iran's nuclear installations, some of which are also buried deep
underground."
I want you to explain to our viewers what -- the point that
you're trying to make, because by all accounts, the Iranians are
working to build a nuclear bomb, and by all accounts, the United
States, the Europeans, the rest of the world, the Russians, the
Chinese, want to impose sanctions to try to convince the Iranian
government not to do it. But what you're saying is that there are
contingency plans to take out those sites.
HERSH: Absolutely. The problem is, those sites are dug in.
Iran's been digging, you know, for a dozen centuries underground,
the Persians. They're dug in way underground.
And one of the things our intelligence believes in terms of
Hezbollah is this, Wolf. Once Syria was kicked out of Lebanon,
under pressure from the United States, the U.N. and France, at
that point, it was clear Hezbollah was next.
So for the last 18 months, Iran has been doing an awful lot
of high-level technical work with Hezbollah, teaching them how to
dig deeper, teaching them how to protect, get their command and
control facilities deeper. So they were a very formidable target.
Iran was helping a great deal in helping Nasrallah survive. So the
idea is if Hezbollah could be gotten by the air, there was a lot
of things to learn by bombing Hezbollah and taking out its
facilities. And you needed to know how to do it, because to turn
to Iran, which is a much more formidable target, this would be an
enormous asset.
BLITZER: Despite all the denials coming across the board,
you're sticking by your story?
SEYMOUR: I know more than I did three days ago.
BLITZER: The Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist
Sy Hersh. Thanks very much for joining us.
HERSH: Always.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
BLITZER: And straight ahead, what police are now looking for
as they try to piece together the alleged bomb plot against U.S.
airliners.
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Anderson Cooper From CNN
Reports from Lebanon
Strike on Hospital by IsraelAugust 2, 2006
COOPER: And good morning from the Israel/Lebanon border. It is a
morning of lots of activity. It is just 6:00 a.m. here. The sun has just
come up. The Israeli artillery units behind me have been relatively quiet
this evening.
But the action inside Lebanon has been fast and furious. There is fighting
in the south of Lebanon to talk about. Three Israeli soldiers and more
than 25 Israeli soldiers are wounded, three Israeli soldiers killed in the
last 24 hours. But in the last several minutes we have learned the results
of ongoing operation in Baalbeck in the north of Lebanon. A commando raid,
a daring commando raid, several militants seized from a hospital, brought
here to Israel, according to the Israeli Defense Forces.
We are now just getting a report as well from Reuters. Also based on
Lebanese military sources, saying that 15, what they say are civilians,
have been killed in Israeli air strike in the town of Baalbeck. We are
trying to gather the information as we get it and bring it to you.
Joining me right now, John Roberts is elsewhere along this border here, on
the Israeli side of the border, and CNN's Michael Ware is in Beirut.
Let's start with Michael Ware.
Michael, at this point, what do we know and what don't we know about
what's happening very close to the Syrian border in the Bekaa Valley?
MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, what we've seen overnight
here in Lebanon is a daring addition to the Israeli Defense Forces'
campaign against Hezbollah.
Airborne troops were dispatched more than 60 miles north of the Israeli
border to strike deep into the heart of Hezbollah domain in the Bekaa
Valley.
In the town of Baalbeck they struck a hospital operated by Hezbollah where
there was what's said to be by Lebanese security forces some fighting. The
Israeli troops entered the hospital, checking the identification papers of
all the staff, the medical teams, and the patients. What we're now hearing
out of Israel is that that group of Israeli troops have now been extracted
from this snatch and grab operation and have returned to Israel without
casualty.
However, we're being told that they did take with them Hezbollah
prisoners. Reports conflict as to who these prisoners are and the nature
of them. Some say they're low ranking, some are suggesting otherwise.
As Beirut is now waking up to this news, we can only hope to learn more in
the coming hours -- Anderson.
COOPER: And as Michael Ware knows from all the coverage he has done in
Iraq, often these early reports are conflicting and often don't bear out
over the long term. So we're being very cautious in what we're actually
trying to say and what we actually know.
So far the Israeli Defense Forces have told us that they have taken some
militants and brought them back here. Again, there's a lot we don't know
at this hour.
Let's check in with John Roberts who has been really for the last 24 hours
or so moving all along the Israel/Lebanon border, watching growing
military activity along that border.
John, what's happening now?
JOHN ROBERTS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, on the Baalbeck front, Anderson, I
just spoke with officials from the Israeli Defense Forces who say that
they are not going to release the names of the militants that they quote,
"arrested," until a little bit later on today. But it would seem clear
that by engaging in this operation, what they're looking for are
bargaining chips.
So far the only bargaining chips they have are the bodies of some six
Hezbollah guerillas who were brought back to Israel from the fighting in
Bint Jbeil.
And while Israel has negotiated for the release of bodies, that's not the
high quality bargaining chip that they would be looking for in order to
try to engage in some negotiation with Hezbollah.
It would seem as well that the Israelis would not have launched such a
daring raid, deep into Lebanese territory unless they were after some
fairly high-value targets. So we're looking toward the time that we get
the names of those Hezbollah officials and also what value they may be to
the Israelis as they try to find a way out of this crisis that leaves
Hezbollah dramatically weakened from the way that it was before.
We spent all day along the border today traveling between Metullah at the
very tip of the Galilee Peninsula, to an area about 15 miles to the east
of the Mediterranean Sea. A lot of heavy fighting going on in a number of
different areas, a number of towns and villages on the Lebanese side of
the border. And growing evidence that Israel is about to launch a major
ground campaign, a major expansion of their ground campaign into southern
Lebanon.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) Hezbullah Fakes ambulance videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXy6q4cH4pw by Anderson
Cooper in Lebanon
ROBERTS (voice-over): From a hilltop right on the Lebanese border we
watched the Israeli military pound positions in a town they say is a
Hezbollah base. It is just two miles from where two Israeli soldiers were
kidnapped July 12, the incident that touched off this war.
(On camera): This is where the heaviest of the fighting is right now. This
is Aita al-Shaab. You can see that the Israeli Air Force dropped what
appears to be a 500-pound bomb on this village. It has been shelled all
day and there is heavy fighting in the city streets. The Israeli army is
in there with a lot of ground forces. There is close quarters fighting.
Very, very heavy combat.
(Voice-over): The battle has been costly for the Israeli military. Three
soldiers killed so far, 25 wounded. Israel claims it killed at least 20
Hezbollah fighters in southern Lebanon in the past 48 hours.
We stay on the hilltop watching the battle until soldiers arrive and tell
us there are snipers in the village and it is far too dangerous to be
here.
We move to another location along the border route pock marked with
Katyusha rocket hits and evidence that...
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The News
July War
Written by Lebanon Today
JULY WAR '06
Live coverage archive: July 19 and 20. 2006
Thursday, July 20 2006
> 23h30: Israel targets a small bridge in Baabda
central area, no injuries reported.
> 23h28: Israel launches several attacks in
different regions of Lebanon, targeting Nabatiyeh,
Aytaroun, South Beirut and Baalbeck. In Naameh, it
targeted a pro-Syrian Palestinian faction base.
Israeli jets raid the base of the Popular Front for
the Liberation of Palestine-General Command in
Naameh
> 23h17: Nasrallah promises new surprises in the
coming battles.
> 23h16: South Suburbs of Beirut targeted again by
Israerli planes.
> 23h11: Israeli planes launch strikes on Naameh.
> 23h10: Lebanese Defense Minister, Elias
Murr: The Lebanese Army is ready to engage in the
battle if Israel launches a ground attack.
> 23h05: Nasrallah: Hizbullah is still
facing the attacks, and did assimilate the first
attack and is moving to the initiative phase.
> 23h04: Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah: I do not
fight for the "Ouma" but loss or victory in this
battle will reflect on the "Ouma". ("Ouma"
refers to the Islamic or Arab world as a one
nation.)
> 23h03: Nasrallah tells Al-Jazeera TV that the two
captured Israeli soldiers would only be freed in the
"context of an exchange" of prisoners.
> 23h01: Shakira, the International singer
with Lebanese roots, is holding a campaign for peace
in Lebanon.
> 23h00: Nasrallah denies Israeli claims that it
destroyed 50% of Hizbullah strength.
> 22h59: Russian deputyFM visits Beirut
onFriday.
> 22h58: Hundreds march inSyria in support for
Lebanon.
> 22h57: Saudi FM criticize Israeli position.
> 22h56: Saniora: Washington encourages
Israeli attack.
> 22h50: A Katyusha rocket hits North
Galilee.
> 22h04: Israeli Air Force planes over Hermel.
> 21h55: Arz(Cedar)-Aynata road targeted.
> 21h45: Bombing from Israeli warship over Kasmiyeh
in South Lebanon.
> 21h43: French FM tomorrow in Beirut.
> 21h40: Raids on extreme North of Lebanon.
> 21h39: Omr Moussa after talks with Solana: As long
as there is land occupation, there will be
resistance.
> 21h37: Israeli raid on Baalbeck and planes
over the notrth.
> 21h36: Israeli TV: More than 9000 military plane
take off since the start of the war.
> 21h17: Israeli planes over Baalbeck.
> 21h09: New Israeli raid on the Southern Suburb of
Beirut.
> 21h07: Media reports: 9 Israeli soldiers trapped
in Maroun al-Ras village and subjected to heavy
Hizbullah pounding.
> 21h02: Hizbullah: We destroyed 2 Mirkava tanks on
the border.
> 20h55: 4 Israeli soldiers dead in Maroun el Ras
Clashes.
> 20h45: Lebanese police say that two
British TV journalists thought abducted by Hizbullah
in Beirut were in fact briefly detained by officers
and released.
> 20h39: Reuters: Olmert allows the transport of
Humanitarian aid into Lebanon. Mainly from Cyprus.
> 20h06: Closed session at the UN Security Council.>
19h57: Israeli General: The Israeli public is
getting tired and wishes the war to end as soon as
possible.
> 19h51: Hizbullah announces the destruction
of a Israeli Mirkava tank in the Zareit barraks.
Three of their crew are supposed to be wounded.
> 19h49: Israeli TV: The Israeli army was not yet
able to retrieve the wounded soldiers from the
battle ground.
> 19h43: 3 Israeli soldiers killed and 10 injured
till now in clashes near Maroun el Ras.
> 19h29: Thousands protest in Haifa and
Galilee to end the war and releasing the soldiers.
> 19h18: Hizbullah announced killing 2
Israeli soldiers and injuring 6 in Maroun el Ras.
> 10h09: Haaretz: 8 soldiers injured in border
clashes with Hizbullah.
> 19h07: Hizbullah: An Israeli helicopter has been
hit in Maroun el Ras near the border.
> 19h05: Security Source: Heavy bombing of Maroun el
Ras following reports about an Israeli troops
incursion.
> 18h50: Annan calls for an international
conference to develop "precise timelines" for a
speedy implementation of UN resolutions, notably
regarding the disarming of Hizbullah.
> 18h45: Annan urges the Security Council to take
"firm action" toward ensuring peace and stability in
the Middle East.
> 18h40: Annan condemns Hizbullah for
triggering the latest outbreak of violence in
Lebanon but also slams Israel's "excessive use of
force" in response.
> 18h30: UN chief Kofi Annan calls for an
"immediate cessation of hostilities" in strife-torn
Lebanon as he briefed the Security Council on UN
mediation efforts.
> 18h26: 6 injuries in rockets fired on North
Israel.
> 18h20: Israel accepts that it suffered big
losses in clashes with Hizbullah.
> 18h15: The White House denies pressuring Israel to
stopits attacks.
> 18h14: US: Hizbullah went far in holding
south Lebanon as an Hostage.
> 18h09: Prody after meeting Saad Hariri: Italy will
try its best to reach a solution in the Middle East.
> 18h07: Israeli ambassador to Moscow: Our target is
destroying the terrorist infrastructure of
Hizbullah.
> 18h03: The relations with Spain did deteriorate
due to Zapatero declarations.
> 17h51: An Israeli raid on the Southern suburb of
Beirut.
> 17h49: Lebanese ONG and other citizens are
protesting in Central Beirut.
> 17h39: New raids on Khiyam in the South.
> 17h37: Israeli Foreign Ministry: It is time to go
back to the German mediation in order to liberate
the kidnapped soldiers.
> 17h33: Hizbullah launches new missiles
toward Haifa.
> 17h25: Israeli raids on areas in the
South and a bridge. And other planes fly over Akkar.
> 17h17: Israeli TV declares that an Israeli
helicopter was hit in clashes with Hizbullah.
> 17h14: US embassador meets with Saniora away from
the media.
> 17h00: Israeli air force targets Khiam
and Marjeyoun.
> 16h29: Fierce battle underway in Maroun el
Ras near the border..
> 16h20: Israeli planes over many Lebanese
regions mainly the South and the North.
> 16h16: Hizbullah targets Safed military HQ.
> 16h15: First French airplane carrying humanitarian
aid leaves Paris.
> 16h12: Big battle in process in Maroun el
Ras village in south Lebanon.
> 15h59: Israeli reinforcement on the
borders.
> 15h43: New Clashes between IDF and Hizbullah in
Maroun el Ras.
> 15h42: US Congress votes on Thursday on
the possibility of supporting the Israeli attack on
Lebanon.
> 15h26: Israeli Defense Minister, Peretz, does not
dismiss a large scale invasion of Lebanon.
> 14h58: Raids targeting several bridges in
South Lebanon.
> 14h34: Alert sirens blow again in Haifa
and other areas of North Israel.
> 14h07: Hizbullah declares targeting the
Northern Army Command region in Safad.
> 14h05: An exceptional Maronite Bishop
meeting is scheduled for tomorrow morning.
> Maronite Patriarch: The Americans are interested
in Lebanon and look forward for a cease-fire with
acceptable conditions.
> 13h55: Russia: Israeli Attack is way beyond an
anti-terrorism operation.
> 13h50: Hizbullah announce targeting Safad,
Tabaryia and Kiryat Shmona with missiles.
> 13h40: About 500 French citizens have been
evacuated from the South of Lebanon.
> 13h38: Australia: Israeli ban and attacks are
delaying our evacuation plans.
> 13h30: The US citizen have been evacuated
to USS Nashville. While US State Secretary warns
Americans about dangers of travelling to Israel.
> 13h17: Clashes Between "IDF" and
Hizbullah in several location along the borders.
> 13h14: US Marines are evacuating US nationals from
Dbayyeh port.
> 13h09: Intense bombing of Srifa in South Lebanon.
> 13h02: Israeli Army fears a long campaign.
> 13h01: Israeli Source: Israel has several plans to
invade Lebanon.
> 12h48: Israeli TV: Clashes with Hizbullah
similar to Vietnam fights.
> 12h41: Hizbullah says all its leaders are
safe and the party is ready to any eventuality.
> 12h31: LBC: Saniora declares to an Italian
newspaper "Hizbullah made a state inside the state
and should be disarmed".
> 12h31: Yediot Ahront: A huge fire in Kiryat Shmona
due to a Hizbullah missile.
> 12h27: Hizbullah launches missiles at
Safad, Carmiel, Tiberias and North Commandement HQ
in Safad.
> 12h25: Israeli raids on several regions in the
South of Lebanon.
> 12h19: Israeli Justice Minister: We are fighting a
fierxw battle against well trained fighters and this
costs us a lot of losses.
> 12h17: The US Marines are back to Beirut
after 24 years in a rescue Mission.
> 12h15: A protest in Beirut Central District
against the Israeli attack.
> 12h11: Israeli helicopters are patrolling in
Kafra, Yater and Tibnin regions.
> Israeli Colonel: The Attack on Hizbullah was
planned since long time.
> 12h04: Maronite Patriarch, Cardinal Sfeir, reaches
Bkirki.
> 11h44: 2 more israeli soldiers wounded in new
clashes with Hizbullah fighters between Maroun el
Ras and Aitaroun.
> 11h42: US Marines troops are helping in
the evacuation of US citizens from Lebanon.
> 11h39: Israeli air force raids regions
next to Tyr.
> 11h37: Hizbullah fighting with Israelis
that entered inside Ayta el Chaeb.
> 11h29: Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir arrived
to Awkar, north of Beirut, on board of an American
Helicopter.
> 11h21: Israel targets a Plastic factory south of
Saida.
> 11h11: Hermel raid targeted the building site of
the company building the Hermel dam.
> 11h02: Hizbullah Katyusha missiles hit
Galilée and Carmiel.
> 10h59: Israeli soldier badly hit in
clashes with Hizbullah fighters.
> 10h52: Hizbullah missiles hit north
Galilee and Tabaryia.
> 10h40: Haaretz: Sirens sound in Tabaryia.
> 10h28: Raids on roads linking Hermel to Syria and
on Al Manar TV broadcast antenna.
> 10h24: Raid on Khiam prison (famously used during
the Israeli occupation of the Lebanese South).
> 10h18: Hizbullah repels Israeli trials to
pull back one of the 2 destroyed tanks in Maroun el
Ras.
> 10h17: Israeli Radio: Israel answers US
demands to stop bombing Lebanese infrastructure.
(one would wonder: was there anything left?)
> 10h07: Heavy raids on Ayta el Chaab in
south Lebanon.
> 09h38: An Israeli raid near Justice Court
in Baalbeck.
> 09h35: Israeli Planes flying over Keserwan, north
of Beirut.
> 09h31: Successive raids on Hermel.
> 09h27: Israeli raid on Baalbeck.
> 09h26: UNIFIL tries to access Safraya
where a massacre has reportedly happened, 20 town
residents have been killed.
> 09h24: Israeli strikes on Khiyam plain.
> 07h45: Hizbullah destroys 2 Israeli near Maroun el
Ras.
> 07h44: Clashes between Hizbullah and Israel on the
borders.
> 05h47: Air Strike on the Hizbullah HQ
stronghold Souh of Beirut.
> 04h10: Israeli planes over the Bekaa and
Beirut.
> 03h40: Isareli shelling on Wadi Kfour near
Nabatiyeh.
> 03h30: Israeli planes over South Beirut
again.
> 03h00: Raids on Saida neigborhood.
> 02h41: Heavy Israeli flights over South
Beirut.
> 01h40: Israeli raid on Akkar killing 2
civilians.
> 01h30: Conflicting reports about who was
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'Hardball with Chris Matthews' for August 14
Read the transcript to the Monday show
Updated: 10:37 a.m. CT Aug 15, 2006
Guests: Seymour Hersh, Mike Barnicle, Michael Smerconish
MATTHEWS: We go now to the man who started the big fight this week, “New Yorker” investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, who has a big report, as I said, in this issue of the magazine, “New Yorker” magazine. Here it is, a great quote from it. I think this is a pretty good nut for the whole story.
“President Bush and Vice President Cheney were convinced, current and former intelligence officials and diplomatic officials told me, that a successful Israeli Air Force bombings campaign against Hezbollah‘s heavily-fortified underground missile and command and control complexes in Lebanon could ease Israel‘s security concerns, and also serve as a prelude to a potential American, preemptive attack to destroy Iran‘s nuclear installations, some of which are also buried deep underground.”
How sound are you, Sy, on the fact that we‘re planning to go into Iran with an attack on their nuclear facilities?
SEYMOUR HERSH, “NEW YORKER” INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, we‘ve been planning this for a year. I mean, there‘s been a fight. I‘ve been writing about it in the “New Yorker” in previous articles. There‘s been a internecine warfare between the Air Force—the American Air Force says we can do it. Strategic bombings can work in Iran.
And, you know, the Iranians have been digging holes for what, eight, nine centuries now. And they‘re deeply buried underground. Most of the—the suspected facilities. We‘re not sure where anything is. We really don‘t know.
MATTHEWS: But these are like the pyramids. These are way down, right?
HERSH: Seventy-five feet under rock.
MATTHEWS: What kind of a bunker buster would you have to use, and how many people would that kill?
HERSH: Well, you know, one of the early thoughts was something attack a nuke, of course. That was ruled out only after the Joint Chiefs protested personally.
MATTHEWS: What‘s our biggest conventional bomb?
HERSH: Five thousand pounder, and we‘ve got a—well, the ones they‘re talking about, that there are bunker busters that are 5,000 pound bombs that the Israelis know quite a bit about. So what happens ...
MATTHEWS: Is that what Israel was asking for last week in the “New York Times”? They leaked something. Somebody leaked. That may be political. They put it in the “New York Times.” They are having trouble getting it from us. I assume somebody was facing some static in getting them the weapon they wanted. I don‘t know what happened.
HERSH: I don‘t know that part of it. I know that Israel has—knows much more about these kind of bombs than we think we have do and we started working with them. What happened is the Air Force plan got into a lot of heat over there.
The Army, the Marine Corps, and the Navy said are you kidding?
Strategic bombing doesn‘t work. Look at Chakano (ph) in Iran—and Iraq.
We‘re going to end up putting boots on the ground and we don‘t have them.
MATTHEWS: Who says that bombing Iran would stop their nuclear production? Who says that? The Air Force?
HERSH: The Air Force pushes it hard.
MATTHEWS: Because they‘re trying to sell a weapons system?
HERSH: Well, because they believe in strategic bombing. You know, bomb them back to the Stone Age, Curtis LeMay. That‘s ...
MATTHEWS: Did that work in the Second World War?
HERSH: Of course not. Studies show that ...
MATTHEWS: Hitler was still fighting when the Soviets got to his bunker.
HERSH: He made more tanks in ‘44 than he did in the previous years after intensive bombings of all the wars that he did. But, nonetheless, you know, McNamara, by the way, Robert McNamara was one of the leaders of the study—the strategic study after World War II, and he, of course, pushed for bombing in Vietnam. Everybody wants to bomb.
MATTHEWS: It doesn‘t work. So Curtis LeMay didn‘t know what he was doing?
HERSH: No, he was a pretty good officer.
MATTHEWS: But he wasn‘t right about this?
HERSH: You know what he said? He said at one point—and I think in February of 1945 -- I actually spent a lot of time looking at this. And he said, “I‘m out of targets, I can‘t bomb anything, I‘ve leveled everything and they‘re still fighting.”
MATTHEWS: In Vietnam.
HERSH: No, Curtis LeMay in 1944 in World War II. His point was that even though we had been bombing everything with B-29s—you know, once we got control over the islands, you know, at Okinawa we got some bases, we could hit Japan. In—three months before, five months before the war that he was out of targets, but the Japanese kept on resisting.
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about this, because it‘s so critical to the next two years. We‘re not going to have a presidential election for a couple of years now. We won‘t have an election for more than two years. It‘ll begin to be the process by the end of next year.
It looks like we‘ll have a primary up in—we‘ll have a caucus in Iowa probably by this time next year, practically. But we‘re stuck with this president for better or worse. He‘s our leader. Do you believe he wants to bomb Iran before he leaves?
HERSH: Absolutely. No, I should say this. I believe that he does not want to leave his office with Iran still posing a threat. I believe he sees a nuclear arm, Iran as an existential threat to his policies, the policies of Israel, the whole notion he has of making the Middle East, turning it into a democracy, which he still holds onto. I do believe that, and as part, one of the options ...
MATTHEWS: Does he—let me cut you off here, because we always conflate these issues. Does he see Iran as a regional threat to countries who are on our side, like Israel and the other so many Arab countries, or does he see it as a strategic threat?
Because this was the whole fight over Saddam Hussein. Of course he was a regional pain in the butt, of course he was a problem to some tactical extent to Israel—he wasn‘t a strategic threat to Israel—but is Iran a strategic threat to the United States? Does he believe that?
HERSH: I don‘t know what he believes.
MATTHEWS: How could he be a strategic threat to the United States?
HERSH: I don‘t know what he believes. He said today Hezbollah lost the war. I mean, I don‘t know. Is the moon made of green cheese? I don‘t know what he believes.
MATTHEWS: Do you believe the president says what he believes?
HERSH: Oh, yes. I believe he‘s—one of the things ...
MATTHEWS: You think he‘s totally genuine in what he presents to the American people? He believes what he tells us.
HERSH: I think you really have to listen to what he says, and I think one of the problems—you know, one of the reasons this story came about is somebody on the inside said, you know, these guys, here are the—they pushed the Israeli air force for the same reason you said in the intro. They wanted—it‘s sort of a demo for Iran.
They wanted a—there were reasons. You know, he‘s a terrorist, Nasrallah, he has got some missiles and we want to beef up the Lebanese government. The real reality is it‘s a test case for Iran. He pushed them into it. It was a disaster. They ended up sending in ground troops, just like all the guys in the Pentagon would say, and yet guys on the inside tell me there‘s no learning curve there. These guys ...
MATTHEWS: You know what it brings into question? Here‘s an administration that for political or other moral reasons or historic reasons—maybe because his father was pro-Arab—is the most openly pro-Israeli administration in history, in terms of the P.R.
And you have to ask yourself, has the loss of our power brokering ability in that region been a bigger loss for Israel than anything we could have done for them? Seymour Hersh is staying with us from “New Yorker” magazine. He‘s made the big story this week.