I dreamed I was in a large city. Crowds of people were there, all headed for some kind of party or something that everyone had to get dressed up for. I bought a new flowered top to wear but couldn't find the proper skirt to wear with it, so my friend told me to wear it right over my flowered dress.

So, I headed for the party and when we got there, the hordes of people had a choice of the narrow way up a steep rocky stairs to the right or a wide concrete steps straight ahead.

Lots of people I knew were there. I chose the narrow rough stone steps up to the right. They were difficult to climb and the last step was so high and so narrow and opening, the step was about shoulder high and just wide enough a gap between the rocks that you would have to use your arm muscles to boost yourself up. I didn't think I could do it alone.

Two men stood there to help people and one man said, "We can haul her up through," but the other man said, "No! She'll have to go back down and go with the other people."

So, I had to go back down and join all the other people I knew and went up the wide steps. Those steps led to a museum.

The first room was the hall of sweaters. They were all hand knit and each one was more beautiful than the one before in different color combinations.

From there we went down a long corridor which was like a hall of beautiful pastel people. These were all beautiful faced mannekins and they all wore pastel colored clothes.

I noticed though that the farther we went along that hallway, the faces became more and more distorted into painful expressions.

Then we came to a display of heads. I recognized all the heads, President Kennedy, President Roosevelt, Barbara Streisand, Frank Sinatra.  These heads all had their eyes closed and seemed alive, but their heads lolled around over the neck, mouthing silently the songs and speeches they had been famous for, but were worthless now

We were then herded into an auditorium. At this point, we did't have a choice in whether we were going to participate. It was like a huge movie theatre.

Each seat was electrically wired. There were metal buttons where each hand would rest on the arm of the seat and there was one to sit on also. That made me feel particularly frightened because I knew we were going to get zapped. What was even worse was, we had to strap ourselves in with seat belts so we wouldn't fly out of the seats and get hurt.

Then the movie started and it was the face of a purple man and he was going to show all manner of pain and torture and horrible things and we were going to be forced to watch.

The telephone next to my bed rang at that point and I woke up and had to get up and take care of a problem in my apartment building. I was too wide awake to go right back to sleep, but a half hour later when I went back to sleep, the previous dream continued like it had never stopped.

At that point in the dream, I had returned home and had a video of the movie from the theatre, and a large notebook which I looked in and saw the listings of names of the Lords and Gods of danger and bad happenings. I was shown that the purple faced man's name was Bryski or something like that.

I was shown that I was supposed to teach about the pink faced man. I wasn't given his name, but he represented love and I saw little animals riding around, sitting on the shoulders of people and giving them little animal kisses.

I was to teach that all of nature had to be in harmony or life would be what the purple faced man had shown in the movie theatre.

At that point, I was taking care of someone and she was in bed. I asked her if she would like to see the video I had of the purple faced man. Then I realized I couldn't do it that easily, because he had just been in my dream not in real life.  

by Dee


11-7-97 - DREAM - I was at 20th St. school and I was working there. The people and the scene was more like the drafting room at A-C. It was time to go home and it was my job to turn out the lights when we went home. I went downstairs with some people and went out to the playground. There, someone gave me a piece of cardboard with toys on it. On the top row on the left was a series of soldiers facing towards the middle down on one knee each with a rifle pointed toward the center. On the right was a series of American Indians facing the center each one down on one knee with a bow and arrow aimed towards the center towards the soldiers.  There was 10 or 12 of each.

There were several other things down the face of the card but the most outstanding one was a standing bear figure and next to it was written - Age of _________. .  I saw then that these figures were like molds, were hollow inside and hinged so that you could hold them under water so the mold filled with water, then you stood it in the freezer. When the figure was frozen you could take it out and you had a frozen bear figure. If it melted, you could make another one.

I looked up at the building and saw that there were still some lights on on the 4th floor and I had to go turn them off.

I went back into the building and met some people who were rehearsing for a TV show. The girl in the center spotlight looked like M.M. The show went on for a short time and it did't work out with the tall thin guy she was with. They turned off the spotlights and she turned towards me to leave and began to cry. She saw me and recognized me. We each put out our arms wide like on a crucifix - then went towards each other and hugged. I noticed at that point that I felt very masculine - not female. Another girl came over and we took her into a group hug and then a fourth girl was taken into the group hug. I left the hug group at that point and went into another room where I was preparing material for a Sunday school class I would be teaching in the morning. I carried big packs of white paper from one place to another and put them on a washing machine and noticed that I had the key to a storage locker where something was stored. I noticed that I had seven receipts including one for some cakes. (See below)

My friend David heard about the bad rehearsal and went out and bought several cakes to make everyone feel better and I ran down the hall to get everyone back together to come to the Sunday school room. I didn't have too much success - everyone had scattered to go do other things.

continues in next dream

11-7-97 - DREAM - I was on Teutonia and Center St. in Milwaukee, not very far from the school. It would be where 13th st. would be, but there was no street named that right there. Teutonia Ave. ran on a slant north and south between 12th and 20th st.  I was going to the theatre to watch a movie and was going to meet my husband there. There was a lot of mean looking black men on the street and was accosted by a couple of them, but one shorter guy saw that I had a little football-shaped button clipped to the right front of my jacket that said, "Open Mind."  He thought it was a job processing center and started rattling off all the types of work he was capable of doing. I went along with him and told him he was very versatile. He asked me if I would take his telephone number and call him for a job. I said, "Yes!" and politely took down his number which started with area code 209. (That is California)  I was by then at the theatre.

I opened the big glass door at the front and saw that the movie "10 Tall Men" was playing. I had some money in my left pocket and pulled out a $10 bill to buy a ticket. I put it up on the counter and the black girl selling tickets ignored my money. I saw in a little box on the wall, a receipt with the name Marcella on the top. She had obviously received the delivery of a package there and someone would pick up her receipt and pay for the delivered package for her.

Another girl from the candy counter came over and asked me if I was there to rent the apartment upstairs. I said, "No! I was there to see the movie. They acted all surprised.

I went into the theatre then and went down the aisle looking for my husband. The lights came on and I saw that the theatre was full of men - no women at all - and they were not all facing the front where the screen was. They had just all been sitting around in the dark facing every which direction.  At that point, I was down at the front, facing the people. A door opened upstairs at the projection booth and a bright flash went off and I saw 2 men up there.  One was an older white haired man.  They had taken a photo of me.

I felt sudden fear and knew I had been set up. I made an announcement to the people as loud as I could, "If anything happens to me and you see my picture in the paper, you'll know that something big is going down."  I looked around quickly to see if my husband was there, but never saw anyone that even resembled him.

Meanwhile everyone panicked and rushed to get out of the theatre. Some music started to play with a steady hard beat and people crashed into each other with a thump. I could hear an announcer talking about the music, that it was written so that people could go "thump" together when the music went "thump".

It was such a commotion of people running in every direction that I managed to get out of the building easily and while nobody was looking, I re-entered the building through a big wide brown delivery door and saw that I was back in the Sunday school room.  There I was given a life size replica of the same toys I had been given at the school. Only I saw a golden badge below the bear that I would put on and wear to show that I had paid the price to have these objects to play with.

I scurried around getting my paper and other things from the top of the washing machine and saw I had another gold key alongside the 1st one and this for another storage room where something was hidden and I again saw the 7 receipts that had to be reimbursed yet.



A Dream by Jan Ingersoll
With Interpretation by Joe Mason


In the mid '80s I dreamed one of my strongest teaching dreams. I even drew pictures. It was very clear & meaningful to me.

I was walking on a very large,green grassy plateau. There was a pretty little girl with me. I was taking care of her for someone. As we walked over a long distance,all alone on this green plain,we saw a small wooden shack sitting alone out there.(It looked like an 'outhouse')..I said to the girl" ,let's see what that is".

As we walked up to this shack, we saw a large sign on it that said "TICKETS". There was a man inside. I asked what he was selling. He said '"MOVIE TICKETS".."DO YOU WANT TO BUY TICKETS?" I thought about it & said "NO.I think we'll just go take a look. Where is the movie?" He said,"just over that hill."

I took the girl by the hand & we walked on. We came to a very LARGE PIT or deep round hole in the ground. It was surrounded by a small fence on the rim. There was a very large CINEMESCOPE MOVIE SCREEN inside the pit wall. It covered over half of the pit. There was a COLOR movie playing. I said to the girl,"lets sit here on the RIM for awhile & see what is happening." I held her,as our legs dangled over the edge. We looked down to the rocky pit floor.

The pit was full of, women & children. They were all facing the screen, intently intrigued by the pictures & story. Many of them were laying on their stomachs to watch. Some of the children were busily playing in the rocks & puddles of water in the bottom. No one looked around or up. I could see all around & down..observing, but not involving in the movie.

As i watched, SUDDENLY THE MOVIE SCREEN WENT BLANK (in the middle of the movie). Simultaneously to this event, I saw a HUGE BLACK HOLE OPEN in the side of the pit. A big rush of WATER was beginning to pour into the pit.

I was I saw there was NO EXITS in the pit. The people sat up startled when the movie quit. They were mulling around in confusion & running through little streams & puddles on the floor. They tried to gather the children & still NO ONE PAID ATTENTION to the HUGE WATERFALL coming at them, until it was too late. Many drowned in the pit. A FEW good SWIMMERS FLOATED to the TOP RIM ..going WITH THE FLOW..

I took the little girl by the hand and we turned back across the green plateau. The SHOW WAS OVER...

I had no strong feelings in this dream. I felt wonderment & puzzlement..Why couldn't they just look around & see the screen, with just a projected picture? All they had to do was 'turn around'. They were too involved to see that the pictures weren't real.. The huge hole & water were. They also got themselves into a 'hole that they couldn't get out of' stairsteps, etc. It happened so fast they had nothing to do but 'sink or swim'. The strugglers & stragglers didn't make it in those forms. The 'swimmers' got out fast & easily. They didn't need the steps!

From Jan Ingersol

Date: 97-11-29 23:59:02 EST

Dream Interpretation by Joe Mason

Our reality seems to be portrayed sometimes as being like a stage play or film. One woman was told in a dream, "Yes! The world is like a stage play, but a VERY important one!" It seems to be a very old idea. I read that Plato said something like this - reality is like watching shadows on a curtain. You have to watch very closely to figure out what is going on behind the curtain. It seems similar to the Eastern teaching that we are in the land of Maya, illusion.

I made a post on the Pufori Dreamer's Board that had some of it. It's at this site: near the bottom of the page, titled, "Dreams at the Dawning and Phantom of the Opera." I'm pasting that part of the posting at the end of this interpretation.

There are many myths about the underworld, like the Greek Persephone. Another is about the 12th labor of Hurcules, where he had to kill the three-headed dog that guarded the gate of Hades. The dog would let anyone in, but would let no one out. Some myths, like the Babylonian one about Ishtar, have seven steps down to the Underworld.

In "Isis Unveiled," vol. 2, by H. P. Blavasky, two ancient depictions are shown that are almost the same. One is from India, and the other is Kabalistic. A triangle is at the top, labeled "AUM" in one depiction. It has a Father Ray and Mother Ray. Below this is a circle with a Star of David type diagram. Below that is a circle, labeled "World of Maya, or illusion" in one depiction, and "Hell, the Objective World called Earth." .

Prior to see the diagrams, I had the feeling that underground or "Hell" could be saying something about the earth reality. Your dream is not like Hell, but it has a similarity.

In the Hopi creation myth, three chambers are shown underground. The Creator first put insects in a chamber and told them to figure out the meaning of life. They couldn't do it, so Spider Grandmother came and helped them to climb to the second chamber, where they became animals. Same thing, and they went to the third chamber and became humans. Finally, Spider Grandmother came again, this time assisted by birds, and the people reached the surface and sunlight. Then Spider Grandmother taught them how to weave.

Buying tickets to the movie is also interesting. About seven years ago there was a dream posted to a network called, "Queen Diana Dream." In the dream she went to a Diana Ross concert. She went back stage and got a ticket or pass from a man at a desk. She went through a door, down a hallway, and into another room. There was a small door in the room. She went through, and was on a slide going down. Lights shined on and through her, examining her. "No shit is allowed down here" she realized. She saw others sliding down on slides. Then, she was in a boat with Queen Diana, surrounded by her loyal subjects.

As you can see, there are quite a few similarities to your dream. Even the "shit" (pardon my French!) may compare to the ticket building looking like an outhouse. This is an important type of symbolism to me, which appears often in various forms. I think it can be a play on the "food-for-thought" symbolism. These thoughts/beliefs have been consumed and digested, and all the nutrients removed. It is time to dump them.

The meaning of the ticket or pass in the Diana dream seems to be a little different than in you dream. She took the ticket and went underground. You refused the ticket, but watched safely from above. I would think that taking the ticket shows that we choose to come to the land of Maya, and are not forced to do so. In one of my theories about the Bible, this is expressed in Daniel 9:27, where a covenant is made with many for one week, and for half of the week . . . something negative happens. The "covenant" is like a contract or agreement, or like taking a ticket.

In the theory, this refers to the seven chakras, and the critical midpoint of 3 and 1/2. It is the point between the lower three chakras and the Heart chakra. I spoke of it in this article:

Notice too, that the Hopi myth has three chambers underground before the fourth step to the surface.

Diana is the Roman Artemis. She is the moon goddess and twin of Apollo. She is associated with a triple goddess symbolism, one of which is Hecate, who is of "Hell." I then remembered that Diana Ross was one of the three singers of "The Supremes."

I thought of it again recently when Princess Diana was killed in the underground pass. They say it was once a Pagan place of worship to the goddess Diana. And I loved it when they started calling her "The Queen of Hearts."

The water pouring into the pit seems to connect with other dreams, for example, my friend, Jeff, dreamed of riding on a bicycle up a hill outside the water treatment plant where we work. His wife came running with a telephone in her hand, saying he had an important call from the lady engineer. He couldn't hear the lady engineer very well, but knew she was telling him not to open the big valve yet that lets the purified water into the city.

I just remembered that the woman who had the Diana dream reported another one about the same time. In that dream, she saw a house in a barren valley. There was a pole next to it that showed high-water markers. She could see that it flooded every once in a while. She said something about it representing her stressful state of mind at the time, and that a flood was coming on.

Some dreams, like yours, has more of a Noah/Pisces type of flooding. Others, like Jeff's, has more of an Aquarius-like Water Bearer kind. In any case, my guess is that it is about the change to a new age.

I like the part about the people not paying attention to the water coming, and thinking the film was "real." It fits the situation I see today soooo well. So few are paying attention to dreams or much else other than the mundane-life things. So many think that is all there is to life, that there is no spiritual thing going on. This fits with a verse in Revelation, the one about "You have the name of being alive, but you are dead. Awake and save what is on the point of death." It goes on to say that some have not stained their garments, and will walk in white. (Jeff had a dream where his white pants got stained because of a backed-up urnal). Hades is the Land of the Dead in the Greek myths, yet the people are still animated, so they are not "dead" in the extinct sense.

Your dream seems to hint that the Great Change will happen very abruptly. I find this often, but I'm not sure if it will really happen "in the blinking of an eye," or "in one night," as Nostradamus said. But, I do have the feeling that it will happen a lot quicker than most people think.

The idea of people being caught by surprise and running about chaotically or in panic, has appeared in a lot of dreams. I think it's in the Bible too, about coming like a thief in the night.

Drowning, I think, can be like a spiritual baptism. The person is "re-born" afterwards. The few good swimmers seem to be those who are familiar with the spirit/unconscious/dreaming realm. And going with the flow, of course, is pretty obvious.

People really do need to "turn around" and see what is really happening. Sometimes I say that everyone has a telephone (dreams) to the other reality, but few pick it up.

Passionate journeys,

Joe Mason



In 1994, a voice in my dream said, "The Phantom of the Opera is God." This seemed outrageous, but I knew what it was talking about. I had heard the song from Andrew Loyd Webber's musical with the line, "The Phantom of the Opera is there, inside your mind." It was related to the painting on the Sistine Chappel by Michalangelo of God reaching to touch Adam's finger. I had read a new interpretation of it, saying that it is not God giving life to Adam, because he is already awake. It is God giving rational intelligence, because God is shown within a structure shaped like a human brain.

You can view the Sistine Chappel painting at :

It was also related to Revelation 17:17 - "For God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and giving over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."

This all tied into an idea sometimes portrayed in dreams, that our world is like a stage play, where we actors have forgotten what is going on behind stage and what the script is about. Unconsciously, in the dream state, we do know, and help write the script. We are learning to be conscious co-creators, as symbolized by the (Royal, Lion) King.


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