"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the
dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was
their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out,
that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole
world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with


From: "The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race" by Joe Lewels, Ph.D.:

"John Carpenter has kept close track of the abduction phenomenon. He is the director of abduction research for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), one of
the largest and most credible organizations dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs and abductions. Carpenter holds a master's degree in social work and is a highly qualified hypnotherapist who works as a psychiatric social worker in Springfield, Missouri. Since the late 1980s, he has worked with more than 100 abductees and compiled information on hundreds of others. In addition, he is in contact with other researchers in the field. He has been involved in 10 cases where experiencers have described reptilian entities and he is aware of researchers in other parts of the country with similar cases. Abductees often have distinct clawlike cuts and bruises on their bodies after their apparent abductions.

"Carpenter summarized what he knows of these beings in his regular column, 'Abduction Notes,' MUFON UFO Journal, April 1993:'Typically, these reptilian
creatures are reported to be about six to seven feet tall, upright, with lizardlike scales, greenish to brownish in color with clawlike, four-fingered webbed hands....Their faces are said to be a cross between a human and a snake, with a central ridge coming down from the top of the head to the snout. Adding to their serpentlike appearance are their eyes which have vertical slits in their pupils and golden irises." Perhaps the most frightening and most controversial part of these stories are claims that the creatures occasionally are reported to have sex with abductees.'"


From: 'OUR HAUNTED PLANET', by John A. Keel (1968. Fawcett Publications., Greenwich, Conn.):

"...The parahuman Serpent People of the past are still among us. They were probably worshipped by the builders of Stonehenge and the forgotten ridge-making cultures of South America.

"...In some parts of the world the Serpent People successfully posed as gods and imitated the techniques of the superintelligence. This led to the formation of pagan religions centered around human sacrifices. The conflict, so far as man himself was concerned, became one of religions and races. Whole civilizations based upon the worship of these false gods rose and fell in Asia, Africa, and South America. The battleground had been chosen, and the mode of conflict had been decided upon.

"The human race would supply the pawns. The mode of control was complicated as usual. Human beings were largely free of direct control. Each individual

"The main battle was for what was to become known as the human soul.

"Once an individual had committed himself, he opened a door so that an indefinable something could actually enter his body and exercise some control over his subconscious mind.

"...the Serpent People or Omega Group, attacked man in various ways, trying to rid the planet of him. But the superintelligence was still able to look over man... God worked out new ways of communication and control, always in conflict with the Serpent People."


From: 'CURIOUS ENCOUNTERS', by Loren Coleman (Faber & Faber., Boston, Mass. 1985) pp. 70-76:

"One classic Bigfoot story, (discussed in some detail in MYSTERIOUS AMERICA) namely, the Wetzel/Riverside, California sighting on 8 November 1958, CLEARLY FITS THE REPTILIAN MODE better than the anthropoid one. Wetzel described, as you may recall, the fluorescent-eyed 'thing' as having a
protuberant mouth and a body COVERED WITH SCALES, looking like leaves. Wetzel's 'thing' emerged from the Santa Ana River underbrush.

"The connection to water is a strong theme in all of these accounts so it is not so surprising that the next puzzle comes from the lake monster file. Trekking up the West Coast, the following report concerns a monster that actually looks like it stepped out of the wardrobe room of the Black Lagoon movie.

"Thetis Lake is near Cottonwood, British Columbia, not far from Victoria, Cadboro Bay, off Victoria and Vancouver Island, (and) is well known for the perennial sea monster 'Cadborosaurus.' So understandably a new creature in the neighborhood would be grouped under the same type of facade by the
press. But the Thetis monster appears to be something else altogether.

"On 19 August 1972 Gordon Pike and Robin Flewellyn said a five-foot-tall animal appeared on the surface of Thetis Lake AND CHASED THEM FROM THE
BEACH. Flewellyn was CUT on the hand by six razor-sharp points atop the monster's head. A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer was quoted at the
time as saying: 'The boys seem sincere, and until we determine otherwise we have no alternative but to continue our investigation.'

"The next Wednesday afternoon, 23 August, the Thetis Monster was encountered again. Mike Gold and Russell Van Nice said they saw 'it' around 3:30 P.M.
and on the other side of the lake away from the recreation area of its first appearance. Mike Gold noted: 'It came out of the water and looked around.
Then it went back into the water. Then we ran!' He described the creature as 'shaped like an ordinary body, like a human being body but it had a monster
face, and it was all scaly (with) a point sticking out of its head (and) great big ears.' It was silver.

"The Thetis monster account sounds similar to one from Saginaw, Michigan, occurring in 1937. A man-like monster climbed up a river bank, leaned against a tree, and then returned to the river. The fisherman who witnessed this appearance suffered a nervous breakdown. This Saginaw tale, the reports of clawed and three-toed prints from Wisconsin to Missouri, and other supposedly 'Bigfoot' or 'manimal' encounters perhaps should be reexamined in light of the REPTILIAN creatures from the Black Lagoon.

"The big Deltox Swamp, Wisconsin flap, investigated by Ivan T. Sanderson in 1979, for example, has always been shelved with Bigfoot reports. But what is
to be made of the tracks of the creature, like footprints of 'a good-sized man with swim fins.'

"This trait is a more frequent characteristic in the so- called eastern Bigfoot reports than you might realize. For example, there's the case of the creature of Charles Mill Lake in Mansfield, Ohio. A green-eyed, seven-foot-tall, seemingly armless humanoid, seen late in March 1959 by Michael Lane, Wayne Armstrong, and Dennis Patterson, came out of the lake and left behind 'tracks that resembled the footgear worn by skin divers.'

The thing was seen again in 1963 and described as 'luminous and green-eyed.' I examined the site of these encounters and can testify to the Charles Mill
Lake's swampy affinities--certainly a good home for a Black Lagoon beast...

"In 1973, during the summer, residents of New Jersey's Newton-Lafayette area described A GIANT, MAN-LIKE ALLIGATOR they had seen locally. Newspaper reporters wrote about an old Indian tale from the region that told of a giant, man-sized fish that could never be caught. In 1977, New York State
Conservation Naturalist Alfred Hulstruck reported that the state's Southern Tier had 'a scaled, man-like creature (that) appears at dusk from the red, algae-ridden waters to forage among the fern and moss- covered uplands.'

"The New York-New Jersey record, however, cannot compare with the overwhelming series of narratives issuing from one place in the United
States, the Ohio River Valley.

"Over twenty years ago, by digging into the back issues of the Louisville, Kentucky, COURIER-JOURNAL, I discovered one of those gems that has kept me
pondering its meaning for two decades. The interesting little item was in the 24 October 1878 issue. A 'WIld Man of the Woods' was captured, supposedly, in Tennessee, and then placed on exhibit in Louisville. The creature was described as being six feet, five inches tall, and having eyes twice the normal size. His body was 'COVERED WITH SCALES.' This article now makes some sense.

"And then almost a hundred years later, again near Louisville, there are more stories of REPTILIAN ENTITIES. In October 1975, near Milton, Kentucky,
Clarence Cable reported a 'giant lizard' was roaming the forests near his junkyard. Author Peter Guttilla described the creature Cable surprised as 'about fifteen feet long, had a foot-long forked tongue, and big eyes that bulged something like a frog's. It was dull-white with black-and-white stripes across its body with quarter-size speckles over it.'

"On-site field investigations by Mark A. Hall, however, indicated this 'giant lizard' RAN BIPEDALLY, according to OTHER Trimble County, Kentucky
witnesses. The Ohio River is Louisville's, Milton's, and Trimble county's northern boundary.

"On 21 August 1955, near Evansville, Indiana, Mrs. Darwin Johnson was almost pulled forever into the depths of the Ohio River. In what seems to be a very
close meeting with one of those creatures, Mrs. Johnson, of Godtown, Indiana, was swimming with her friend Mrs. Chris Lamble about fifteen feet from the shore when SUDDENLY SOMETHING GRABBED HER FROM UNDER THE SURFACE. It felt like the 'hand' had huge claws and 'furry' (or scaly?) palms. It came up from behind, grabbed her left leg, grabbed her knee, and pulled her under. She kicked and fought herself free. It pulled her under again.
Although both women could not see the thing, they were screaming and yelling to scare it away. Finally, Mrs. Johnson lunged for Mrs. Lamble's inner tube,
and the loud 'thump' apparently scared 'it' away, and 'it' released its grip. Back on shore, Mrs. Johnson received treatment for her scratches and marks on her leg.

"Fortean investigator Terry Colvin passed on the information that Mrs. Johnson had a palm-print-shaped green stain below her knee that could not be
removed, and it remained for several days. (Interestingly, Colvin learned the Johnsons were visited by an individual who identified himself as an Air Force colonel who took voluminous notes and warned them not to talk further about the incident. Of course, this sounds so similar to the 'Man-In- Black'
encounter that is goes almost without saying.)

"For anyone who has seen CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, the Ohio River encounter of Mrs. Darwin Johnson is already familiar, for her attack was foreshadowed in that movie...

"1972... In March of that year on two separate occasions, two Ohio policemen saw what has become known as the 'Loveland Frogman.' Investigated by Ron
Schaffner and Richard Mackey, these researchers interviewed the officers involved but have not published their names, instead using the fictitious names 'Williams' and 'Johnson.'

"The first incident took place at 1:00 A.M. on 3 March 1972, on a clear, cold night. Officer Williams was on route to Loveland, via Riverside Road, when he thought he saw a dog beside the road. But when the 'thing' stood up, its eyes illuminated by the car lights, looked at him for an instant, turned, and leapt over the guardrail. Williams saw it go down an embankment into the Little Miami River, a mere fifteen or so miles from the Ohio River. He described the thing as weighing about sixty pounds, about three to four feet tall, having a textured leathery skin, AND A FACE LIKE A FROG OR LIZARD. Williams went on to the police station and returned with Officer Johnson to look for evidence of the creature. They turned up scrape-marks leading down the side of the small hill near the river.

"On approximately 17 March 1972, Officer Johnson was driving outside of Loveland when he had a similar experience. Seeing an animal lying in the middle of the road, he stopped to remove what he thought was a dead critter. Instead, when the officer opened his squeaky car door, the animal got up into a crouched position like a football player. The creature hobbled to the guardrail and lifted its leg over, while constantly looking at Johnson. Perhaps it was the funny smirk on its face, but Johnson decided to shoot at it. He missed, he figured, since the thing didn't slow down. Johnson later told how he felt it was more upright than the way Williams described it. One area farmer told investigators he saw a large, FROG-LIKE OR LIZARD-LIKE CREATURE during the same month of the officers' sightings..."


From: 'WORLD OF THE INCREDIBLE BUT TRUE', by Charles Berlitz (Fawcett Crest Books., N.Y.):

"There have been numerous Bigfoot sightings in the United States and around the world. The humanlike creatures are usually said to be large and hairy with glowing eyes. During the summer of 1988, however, residents of Bishopville, South Carolina, reported accounts of a rare breed of Bigfoot: A SEVEN-FOOT-TALL LIZARD MAN WITH GREEN SCALY SKIN. According to witnesses, unlike other Bigfoot creatures Lizard Man has only three toes on each foot, as well as long apelike arms that end in three fingers tipped with FOUR-INCH CLAWS. Only the second Bigfoot to have only three fingers on each hand, and the first (discovered by Berlitz - Branton) to also have three toes on each foot. Lizard Man is the most unusual Bigfoot ever reported.

"Seventeen-year-old Chris Davis first encountered Lizard Man around 2:00 A.S. on June 29. On his way home, the teen stopped near the brackish waters
of Scape Ore Swamp outside Bishopville to change a flat tire. While replacing the jack in the car's trunk, he glimpsed something running across the field toward him. Jumping into his 1976 Toyota Celica, he was quickly engaged in a tug-of-war with the reptilian creature as he tried to pull the door closed. Then Lizard Man jumped onto the car's roof, where he left scratches in the paint as evidence of his attack.

"Hysterical, Davis returned home and told only his parents and a few close friends about the experience. Law enforcement officers, however, interrogated him after neighbors said the boy might know something about the strange bite marks and scratches found on another car.

"Davis wasn't alone in his report. Soon other reports were flooding the sheriff's office. Teenagers Rodney Nolfe and Shane Stokes, for example, were driving near the swamp with their girlfriends when Lizard Man darted across the road in front of their car. Construction worker George Holloman also claimed Lizard Man jumped at him as he was collecting water from an artesian well.

"Investigating the area around the swamp, state trooper Mike Hodge and Lee County deputy sheriff Wayne Atkinson found three crumbled, forty-gallon
cardboard drums. The tops of saplings were ripped off eight feet above the ground. And there were, according to Hodge, 'humongous footprints,' fourteen-by-seven- inch impressions in hard red clay. Following the tracks for four hundred yards, the officers backtracked and found new prints impressed in their car's tire tracks. According to state wildlife biologists, the footprints matched no known animal species." (This "Lizard Man" sighting was covered in one of the episodes of Tim White's "SIGHTINGS" documentary, "MONSTERS" segment, on the Fox Network - Branton).


From: the Omaha, Nebraska 'METRO UPDATE' for Oct. 29 - Nov. 4, 1990. Article by reporter Patricia C. Ress, titled: 'LINCOLN MAN RECOUNTS ABDUCTIONS BY ALIENS':

"People have been talking about flying saucers for about 45 years now -- longer if you count the reports of the so-called 'foo fighters' seen by pilots on both sides during World War II. But within the past 20 years we've been hearing more about a more frightening side to these visitations - abduction by aliens.

"The most famous case was that of Barney and Betty Hill, two New Englanders returning home from vacation and unable to account for a large block of
missing time. Under hypnosis, a very frightening and detailed account of alien abduction emerged. Later there was Betty Andreason, who told of aliens who took her through walls and closed doors.

"Then came Budd Hopkins, who made a study of such abductions and chronicled one case in 'INTRUDERS-THE INCREDIBLE VISITATIONS AT COPELY WOODS.' Next came the 'Gulf Breeze Sightings' in Florida, and most recently author Whitley Strieber's accounts of his own abductions in his books 'COMMUNION' and 'TRANSFORMATION.'

"While most of these abductions took place in the East, some say that visiting aliens have been just as busy in the Midwest -- even Nebraska. A Lincoln man recently recounted his experiences during a talk at the Oakcrest Institute in Elkhorn.

"John Foster has been an engineer in Lincoln for a number of years. Lincoln, in fact, is his home town and the place where his abduction experiences began back in 1950. A soft-spoken down-home type of man, Foster reminds people of a young Joel McCrea.

"'Alien abduction is a terrifying and traumatic experience,' Foster told the audience. 'Psychiatric counselors don't know how to deal with this -- even if you can get them to believe you.'

"Foster has gotten help and understanding from people like Dr. Leo Sprinkle of the University of Wyoming, who has dealt with numerous alien abduction cases. He also has been the subject of ridicule and rejection by both family and friends.

"'Often in a UFO abduction experience, things happen that are absolutely unbelievable. I have been told that IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR FAMILIES TO BREAK UP AFTER SUCH AN EXPERIENCE. I finally reached the point where I no longer care what people think of me.' Foster said.

"He said he wasn't fully aware of what had happened to him over the years until the 1980s. In 1981 he was sitting outside his home in Lincoln with a friend and on a lark, they both said a prayer (or incantation? - Branton) that they would see a flying saucer and soon after, one appeared, he said.

"On another occasion in March, 1966, he saw a light out behind the trees as he sat on his patio, he said, and the sight triggered a distant memory of something that had happened to him when he was in grade school in Lincoln in 1950.

"He said 40 or 50 people were outside watching a movie when swirling lights suddenly appeared, ALONG WITH A CRAFT THAT INITIALLY LOOKED LIKE A HELICOPTER.

"Foster recalled being INCAPACITATED AND FEELING STRANGE. He said he saw a craft appear WITH THREE LITTLE MEN who appeared to be fixing it. He felt an overwhelming desire to get inside the craft, but once he did, he discovered it was in a different form. 'We got a lesson about history, mankind and something about Indians and buffalo,' he said.

"When he looked around him, Foster said, he noticed that everyone else seemed to be FROZEN IN TIME. 'They all looked like statues,' he said, he saw

"He said he was taken to an examining room BY CREATURES THAT LOOKED 'LIKE FROGS OR LIZARDS.' The 'woman' told him they were the educators and would supervise his learning experience, he said. Among other strange things, Foster recalled THAT THE LIZARD MEN ENCOURAGED HIM TO JOIN THE MASONIC LODGE.

"After he was examined, Foster said, he was sent back out of the craft to the crowd below. The woman (i.e. the being that had 'fixed' itself up to appear as a 'woman' - Branton) spoke to him in almost a scolding tone, saying that from then on he would be a good boy and mind his parents, he said. The woman seemed to know a lot about him, including the fact that he and some friends had stolen some pop and candy from a store across the street, he said.

"In October 1986 Foster went camping with his wife and children at Niobrara Park and he had a short visitation which awakened more memories of previous
abductions, he said.

"By mid-December he recalled 50 abduction experiences, he said, and by January that number had grown to 2,000 and by January 1987, he had recalled
3,000 abductions.

"Foster has recorded memories of 50 of the abductions in detail, another 450 in short notations and many others by locations only, he said.

"'There are roughly two areas of the so-called close encounters,' Foster said. 'These may mesh together, but there are the abductees who seem to be taken aboard a craft to be examined and the contactees who appear to be contacted throughout life and seem to have an assignment.'

"In June of 1987 Foster and his daughter met with several other contactees and he had the feeling that he had known them all his life, he said.

"They helped him recall experiences from coast to coast and from Canada to Mexico, he said.

"'I believe the UFO experiences are directed at you personally,' Foster said, 'but there are times when they can seem to address the population in general.


"Foster said profound things happened to him during his abductions and the world should know about them. HE WAS SHOWN HOW THE 'VISITORS' CAN MANIPULATE ATOMIC STRUCTURE AND CHANGE THINGS DIRECTLY AT WILL, he said, and was told things about scientific matters over the years, only to see them discovered afterward.


"On the initial level of the abduction experience there is a kind of excitement, Foster said, while on the deeper level, life plans emerge and there is interaction with people who have had similar experiences. Foster said there are four witnesses who can recall parts of at least three of his encounters.

"Foster said that to document his experiences, he has made several drawings and paintings. He believes he has encountered at least 13 different kinds of crafts.

"Foster said he remembers abductions that involved his friends when they were teenagers. A large floating phone booth would descend from a dark fog, he said, and a voice seemingly from a loud speaker would urge them to 'gather around for eternal wisdom and knowledge -- and something else about Indians and buffalo,' he said (Note: was the promise of 'eternal wisdom' the bait used to entrap them into the Reptilian agenda? We realize this sounds rather simplistic but traditions do say that this exact same strategy was used by the original 'Serpent' to destroy man's connection with the Almighty and, subsequently, his divinely-given authority over creation, including his dominion over the 'beasts'!? - Branton).

"The voice over the loudspeaker would call them by name AND COULD AT TIMES SOUND SARCASTIC (as a manipulator might sound? - Branton). On one occasion, his friends SHOT AT THE BOOTH WITH RIFLES AND THREW BEER CANS AT IT.

"When he was at Mahoney Lake in 1987, Foster said, he again saw both the booth and the saucer. He asked the entities to quite bothering him because
he was disturbed when he couldn't recall his abductions, he said, AND THEY TOLD HIM IF HE REMEMBERED THE EXPERIENCES, IT WOULD NEGATE THEIR PURPOSE.

"They also told him that if he didn't want to have any more abduction experiences, he would meet some people who would 'HELP HIM BECOME MORE
METAPHYSICAL,' he said, and he later met such people.

"He said he recalls being pulled up into a kind of floating bus and being taken into the future. He declined to say what he saw.

"Foster said he was given experiments to do as an engineer. 'They worked, but they shouldn't have, according to what we know,' he said.

"He said the 'guides' told him they were preparing people for a time when the chosen would be taken away.

"...'I was told to awaken people to other dimensions and to participate in these realms,' he said..." (or is it rather to convince people to 'open' their minds up to 'invasion' by controlling forces from these other 'dimensions'? - Branton)


From [confidential source]:

The following information was sent to us via a researcher who is investigating a continuous abduction of a young (at the time, early 1990's) nine-year-old boy in southern Nevada, possibly to underground levels below that same area. Names, addresses and other details have been deleted on request to protect the sources. We quote from a series of notes exactly as they were sent to us, with our emphasis added:


"2: HE SAYS HE FEELS LIKE HE'S BEING WATCHED WHEREVER HE GOES (Note: This is a common observation made by people who claim to have been abducted to aerial AND/OR subsurface realms - Branton).

"3: This is what they look like to him (a drawing was included depicting a traditional 'gray' of somewhat 'wiry' build - Branton).

"4: This is what the uniform they wear looks like to him. He says the box in the middle has different colored flashing buttons.

"5: This is the large 'boat', A SORT OF FLOATING ISLAND HE WAS BROUGHT TO (Note: Some aspects of the abduction suggest that this was located in large underground lake or sea within a series of deep subterranean caverns - Branton). THERE WERE MANY 'HYBRIDS' ON IT ALSO.

"6: These are the hybrids he sees. He says that they sit in a large circle holding hands. There is one small candle with a very large flame going. HE SAYS HE IS NOT AFRAID OF THE HYBRIDS who BLEND with him and he says it feels very peaceful and good. When asked if the greys were the only aliens he sees, HE DREW THE REPTILIAN, THESE ARE THE UNIFORMS ON THEM ALSO. HE SAYS THE GREYS COME TO GET HIM, BUT THEY FOLLOW THE LEADERSHIP OF THE REPTILIANS. HE CALLED IT A LIZARD.


"Please share with us your input on how to help this boy. We know what is happening here and we are ready and willing to do anything we have to. Love
& Light, sincerely (Names deleted by request)."



FROM: Val Valerian's LEADING EDGE RESEARCH report, letter from an anomymous experiencer, dated May 13, 1992:

"...The stranger who has been in the house with his unknown monitoring device apparently is not pleased with the fact that I placed a magnet in the vicinity of the monitoring device... I put the magnet next to the place... and within 24 hours there was a generalized feeling of freedom and relief in the air. My thinking processes seemed to flow easier and clear. I guess one could say that there was less tension in general wherever I happen to be. On May 7th, I was in the parking lot to pick up Sheila from work (about 9:30 a.m.) reading a book. A strong feeling came over me to doze off. As I did, I dreamed that I was in my car reading my book when my 'visitor' fellow opened the door, but rather brought the monitoring device and left it in the back seat of the car. He then jumped out and slammed the door with a pop that woke me up! Strange. The 'dream' and dozing period lasted less than 10 minutes and the 'dream' is one of those rare types that one does not forget.

What I found was particularly curious was that I knew who the fellow was, what the device was, and I actually saw the device well enough to describe it. Two days later the right brake system failed. And, that indescribable weight seems to be back in the air, again. Now, I shall place another magnet in the back seat of the car..."

This person described the 'entity' as follows: "...Face is sort of wrinkled and yet SNAKELIKE EYES ARE DARK WITH VERTICAL PUPILS. Eyes are round. Nose is small with vertical slits. Ears are very small and flat against head.

Symbol (can't remember) on left side of chest garment. Garment looks like confederate grey uniform. Doesn't fit tight. Rather like sport coat. Skin color is light brown. Face is expressive and shows fear. Device was black on round pedestal and appeared to be solid metal."



From: 'THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES', by John A. Keel, p. 109:

"I am an amateur herpetologist and once kept three-fanged cobras in my New York apartment... until my concerned neighbors squealed to the Board of Health. SOME OF THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE ENTITIES IMPRESSED ME AS RESEMBLING SOME KIND OF REPTILE RATHER THAN HUMAN MAMMALS. I didn't mention the reptile notion to anyone. But on July 24, Lia (an alleged alien tied-in with the Men In Black) visited Jane (a contactee) and refused to talk about anything but eggs. She took some eggs from Jane's refrigerator and sucked out the contents like a reptile! Jane was perplexed by this exhibition and called me soon afterward."

And on pp. 176-177 of Signet's 1975 paperback edition of 'MOTHMEN', in reference to this same 'contactee' Keel states:

"...Meanwhile, Jane's phantom friends were visiting her daily and helpfully giving her surprising information about my own 'secret' investigations. My interview with the Christiansens of Cape May, and the details of their pill-popping visitor, Tiny, was then known only to a few trusted people like Ivan Sanderson. But on June 12, Mr. Apol and his friends (the being that called itself 'Lia', referred to above, apparently being from this same group - Branton) visited Jane when she was alone in her house and asked for water so they could take some pills. Then they presented her with three of the same pills, told her to take one at that moment, and to take one other in two days. The third pill, they said, was for her to analyze to assure herself it was harmless. They undoubtedly knew she would turn it over to me. Two hours after she took the first pill she came down with a blinding headache, her eyes became bloodshot, and her vision in her right eye was affected. When her parents came home they expressed concern because her eyes were glassy and her right eye seemed to have a cast. The sample pill proved to be a SULFA DRUG normally prescribed for infections of the urinary tract..." The possible significance of the "Sulfa" drugs will become apparent later on in these 'Files'.



From: Robin Collyns [article source/title uncertain]:

"...Old Sumerian, Babylonian, Egyptian, and Greek legends refer to the "serpent" deities who were believed to have once resided in the "underworld". The Garden of Eden in this context takes on additional interest and significance, possibly of paramount importance. Pristine legends from AUSTRALIA and the PACIFIC ISLANDS offer innumerable references to serpent deities/beings who were anciently associated with the creation enigma in the area.

"...The spiral serpent symbol is found throughout the Pacific and is associated universally with the creation enigma... From earliest days, the serpent symbol is to be seen in many parts of the world, but undoubtedly the most fascinating portrayal is a detail on an Egyptian "magical" papyrus in the British Museum depicting a serpent encompassed by a ray-emitting disk.

The most unusual form of the serpent symbol is a spiral representing a coiled snake; it has been discovered as petroglyphs and other pictorial representations in Britain, Greece, Malta, and Egypt, as pottery designs in New Mexico; as ground drawings on the Nazca Plateau, Peru, and throughout the Pacific Islands.

"...Aborigine legends... indicate that the serpent beings were not above waging war, and an identical parallel is also mentioned in the Hindu legends of the Nagas, serpent beings who came from one of seven worlds... Aborigine legends (state that) the serpent beings waged many wars around Ayers Rock, and the vertical gutters in Ayers Rock testify to these wars."



From: "VENOMOUS REPTILES", by Shirman A. Minton Jr. (Charles Ceaibrer Sons, N.Y. 1969):

The following observations are made in Minton's book:

A) All reptiles have scales

B) All are cold-blooded

C) All lay eggs

D) All reptiles with well-developed limbs have clawed toes



The book "VENOMOUS REPTILES" also states the following:

"...Cobras (according to legends) are descended from the Nagas, Serpent gods of Bharat, or ancient India. Their worship has been traced to prehistoric Dravidian times before the Aryan invasion of the subcontinent in almost 1600 B.C. The Naga's power to inflict disproportionate physical damage or almost instantaneous death is explained in the Hindu Vedas as paralleling the energy of creation or fire."

The book goes on to state that:

A) The Naga's are said to have appeared at the birth of Guatama Siddharta, who later became "Buddha".

B) The ancient "well" of Sheshna in Benares, India, is traditionally where the YOGA APHORISMS OF PATANJALI, a classical guide to students of Yoga, was written." This "well" is said to be an entrance to one of the Naga's underworld lairs.

Sherman Minton also states that "Sheshna's well", an alleged opening into the underground reptilian underworld of "Patalas" [consisting of seven worlds or cavern levels], may be seen today in Benares, India, and "...It has forty steps leading down into a circular depression to a stone door covered with cobras. This is said to lead to PATALA, the reptile netherworld."



From: "ON THE SHORES OF ENDLESS WORLDS", by Andrew Tomas (Souvenir Press), p. 160

"...Even in this jet-age every Hindu is familiar with and usually believes in the legend of the Nagas, the "serpents" which live in extensive underground palaces in the rocky Himalayas. It is believed that these creatures are able to fly in space and that they possess amazing magical powers and intelligence. They are not too fond of man if he is a curiosity seeker, explorer or mountaineer. According to the sacred(?) tradition of the Hindus, the deep caverns of the Nagas contain fabulous treasures, illuminated by flashing precious stones. The subterranean abodes are known to be in certain parts of both the Himalayas and Tibet, particularly around the Lake of the Great Nagas - Lake Manosarowar."

Andrew Tomas describes his own personal encounters with those who claimed to have knowledge of these subterranean and space-traveling reptilian creatures. On pp. 166-168 he states:

"...I decided to go to the Kulu Valley in the Western part of the Himalayas to visit Naggar, where Nicholas Roerich had lived. Since I had known him personally, the trip had sentimental overtone. A narrow curving road, a precipice on one side with rocks and avalanches on the other, were not conductive to an enjoyable journey to this remote region near Ladakh and Tibet. The village of Naggar derives its name from NAGA, the serpent. High up in the mountains lies Roerich's estate. Having been an artist of note, his two-sided house contains a museum of his paintings.

"As I began my ascent on the mountain path, I saw a tall grey-haired sadhu (hermit), sitting by a mountain torrent. In his hand he held a cobra-shaped staff, which together with the markings on his forehead, signified that he was a devotee of Shiva. During the earlier, more peaceful times of the British Raj, these pilgrims would travel to the Lake of the Great Nagas, Lake Manosarowar, or to Mount Kailas, the abode of Shiva (a "god" apparently tied-in with the Nagas - Branton), in Tibetan territory. I climbed the mountain and reached the terrace on which Roerich's house is built. I spent an hour studying (his) paintings. On the way back I admired the narrow valley and the looming snow-capped mountain ridges on both sides.

"The sadhu was still there. I thought, 'A place called Naggar, a devotee of the Nagas with the cobra staff, if he does not know something about the Nagas, then who does?'"

After Andrew Tomas asked this man, apparently a misguided member of a serpent cult, if he knew anything about the "Nagas" or the serpent beings, the pagan devotee responded:

"'I am a poor sadhu, I know nothing, sahib. But about twenty years ago my yogi teacher went into the mountain kingdom of the Nagas. Bright lights everywhere, big halls like Taj Mahal... The Nagas have many, many things and machines. They are clever, like Cambridge men, may be more clever, sahib,' the sadhu said with an apologetic smile...

"'Your yogi must have been a Rishi. Don't the Nagas destroy men with their sting?' I asked.

"'Yes, though the Nagas are gods and wish nothing but good to man, they do not like men who have no business near their palaces,' he replied."

One can see here the poor, miss-guided and indeed self- contradicting mentality of many of those souls who are caught up in the "serpents cults" throughout the world. In response to Thomas' accusations that THE NAGAS DESTROY MEN WITH THEIR STING, this "devotee" agrees with him and states "Yes" (they do destroy human lives). However, he then goes on to make the absolutely contradicting statement that THE NAGAS ARE GODS AND WISH NOTHING BUT GOOD TO MAN. So... YOU make the call.



From: "THE 'CHUPAS' -- UFO HORROR STORIES FROM BRAZIL", article by Antonio Huneeus, in the Summer, 1994 issue of UFO UNIVERSE:

(Mr. Huneeus describes the following incident that was investigated by APEX [Association of Extraterrestrial Investigations] in Sao Paulo, one of the best known UFO groups in Brazil, founded by Dr. Max Berezowsky):

"...The affair began near Vitoria, the capitol of state of Espiritu Santo north of Rio state, where there are beaches rich in mineral contents. It happened either in late 1979 or early 1980, [Osni] Schwarz wasn't sure when he told the story in 1986.

"A youngster called Aeromar sold beverages at the beach, where one day he encountered three men dressed with suits and tie -- highly unusual clothing for the beach, especially in Brazil -- who approached him and said they wanted to talk to him. Aero- mar became scared, thinking they were perhaps policemen who wanted to implicate him in a drug case, so he avoided the beach for a few days. As he returned home after dropping off his girlfriend one night, he saw a car with the same three men inside. He ran to the house, but suddenly he couldn't hear well. His mother took him to the hospital where we was not cured, although about a month later he suddenly could hear well again.

"Aeromar moved to Rio, finding work at a bakery in a shift between 4 and 11 PM. One night, as he was crossing one of the many tunnels that link the Rio bays, he saw two of the MIBs walking in his direction. The youngster ran in the opposite direction, only to find the third MIB waiting at a bus stop. He escaped and went back to the bakery, where he told his boss that the Vitoria police were chasing him. The boss accompanied him to the nearest police station to make a complaint, which he did, but he was not believed. The boss then convinced him that he should perhaps move to Sao Paulo, a bigger city where it may be easier to go unnoticed.

"So Aeromar moved to Sao Paulo, finding work in an electrical company and sharing a room with another man. he also became friends with a vendor of beverages from Vitoria who had a stand near a movie theater. While hanging out there one night, a car stopped right in front of the stand and the door opened.

"Even through he didn't want to go, Aeromar LOST HIS WILL and entered the car. The door closed and he found inside -- not surprisingly -- the three same men whom he had been dodging for months. They drove for a while, leaving the city and entering a wooded area.

"The car stopped and they all walked up to a big UFO surrounded by some sort of luminous ring and hovering above the ground. The men walked underneath the craft, which emitted a ray of light and they suddenly were inside. Still drained of any willpower, Aeromar walked to a chair and sat down. From the arms of the chair appeared handles that secured his wrists. An iron bar then pressed his forehead backwards while another gadget fast- ened his neck. Up to here the men were always dressed with suits, but at this point an incredible transformation took place: the MIB'S HEAD RIPPED OPENED INTO A HEART SHAPE AND THE SKIN BECAME GREEN AND SCALED LIKE A REPTILIAN. Take into account that while the popular image of the MIB was well known 14 years ago, the idea of reptilian abductors was then not in vogue as nowadays.

"Be that as it may, the UFOnauts proceeded to (vocally? - Branton) interrogate and tell him things that were going to happen both to him and the earth. To make the story even more 'Hollywood- esque', a door in the room opened at one point and Aeromar was able to peek at HUMAN CORPSES HANGING BY THEIR FEET FROM HOOKS. The man naturally became traumatized, reremembering only that his straps were loosened. Everything went blank after that...

"Aeromar's conscious recollection places him next back at the theater, but several hours later since there was no traffic in the streets. He returned to his room in panic and began to tell the story to his roommate. A strange force PUSHED HIS BODY, how- ever, throwing it AGAINST THE WALL in front of him, as he remembered the aliens had told him that he shouldn't speak about the experience or he would suffer. Aeromar cried for a while, not knowing what to do. A few days later, his friend contacted the Globo TV network, which was working on a UFO documentary. Globo, in turn, passed the tip to Dr. Max Berezowsky. Aeromar and his roommate went to APEX on a very busy day when the office was full of people. They told the whole story to Dr. Berezowsky and a few assistants, Osni Schwarz among them.

"Berezowsky attempted to do hypnotic regression with the witness, but there was too much interference in the office and Aeromar was in total panic. He was saying that 'they' were going to take him on the next Thursday and that a UFO was going to land in a Sao Paulo neighborhood on Tuesday night. A crowd of people, in fact, went that night to the supposed landing site but nothing happened. Although Dr. Berezowsky was in touch with Aeromar, HE VANISHED A FEW DAYS LATER AND NOBODY EVER SAW HIM AGAIN> I wrote down at the end of my notes on this affair, 'the whole case is like a UFO horror movie.'"



From: the REPTOIDS.COM Messaage Board

{Note: Many of the Reptiloids have shown animosity towards humans, there have however been, on a few occasions, reptoids which have apparently expressed a benevolent disposition... in most cases it seems that these were either female reptilians or reptilian males that have spent much time in the presence of humans -- on starships or in underground bases -- humans whose "emotionalism" seems to have "rubbed off" on the reptilians - Branton}

Appearance of REPTOIDS, I have known.

From: "TAL"

Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 07:55:18
Remote Name:


Having been within arm length of REPTOIDS, I did get to observe various details. They wore no clothes. But, they did have a "UTILITY BELT", with several unusual things on it. One "device" had a small orange light on it. When this is touched, they simply "disappear". I have quickly moved into the spots where the REPTOIDS were, instantly after they disappear. There was no temperature anomaly in the ZONE. I had expected it to be "cooler" in the area(if they were draining energy to manifest, like happens in various kinds of apparitions). They did change density at times. They made heavy footsteps, in the hallway, on the wood floor. And could walk through the walls. They "glow" an electrical blue/greenish color, like some kind of AURA. The head is similar to the Reptilian Humanoids on the TV Program "BABYLON 5". The head was more cone shaped, like the "YETI" kind of have. In fact, the REPTOIDS are built like Big Foot. The one has SCALES, the other has HAIR. The Eyes are "slit" SERPERT-like. Very strange, "flame-like" and flickery. Three fingers and an opposing thumb. With claw-like Talons(on fingers and feet). A small tail. Large Scales, like a "Breast Plate" on the chest. The scales were smaller where the body is flexible, like around the elbow. The Scales were like a SNAKE. I guess that is why some call them "The SERPENT Race". The Scales were mostly green to very dark green, on each  scale(a variation of color). They are "Telepathic". Very quick thoughts.

IDEAS driven by Images and geometric Impressions. NOT a "linear" form of communication, like words. More, of a Symbol or Image Language. They DO react to your "thoughts". They can "overwhelm" you with DATA(it seems like "thought compression". It can take you a long time to assimilate their "TRANSMISSION" and integrate it. After awhile I "saw" the language, as FRACTAL "Mandelic" Hyper-Spheres or "THOUGHT FORM" constructs, to pass DATA. These sucks are data freaks. Highly Intellectual. Limited Emotional response(Hate, Fear and a "short circuit" Confusion state(mild Panic). You can think or do "the UNEXPECTED" and they do "freak out". So...stay calm and centered. They RESPECT that. Then they "THINK" you are dangerous. But, if you Fear them, they will taunt your weakness and will DISrepect you. Careful, don't DIS-"REP" them either. They are no better than you. I "glean" they want something WE have. Something in our SOUL Nature. We can "Shift" to Theta "BALANCE" and LINK to the SOURCE. They are TOO far into analyzing. Unbalanced. They like DRUGS like cocaine, opium, Magic Mushrooms and  "milking" humans for endorphins. They can't get INTO your Mind without you having the opportunity to get into their REPTILIAN Brain, too. They KNOW alot about the outward form of creation. They KNOW the "Force"...but, behind that is "The SOURCE". They NEED us, we don't need them. They will appear in  England to Tibet, in August 1999. Then will return, 13 years later, in 2012.  

There....This is the 20th year since I first saw them in 1979. They ARE  here. I KNOW. I waited 10 years before, I originally went public. The REPTOIDS are O.K. But, even they FEAR the Returning DRACO(Horned & Winged). These are more Reddish. The Draco Prime are WHITE(albino). Welcome to my world. "TAL"




A man in his late 40's came to us to explore several alien- related events in his life, and in the interview he told of a strange, although not apparently alien-oriented, episode that had haunted him since childhood. When he was ten years old, his grandmother came to visit in his home, and since the house was small, she shared his bed on the first night of her visit.

During the night, the boy was awakened by a loud male voice. He couldn't understand what the voice was saying, but it sounded angry and was addressing the grandmother lying beside him. The next morning, he asked his grandmother, "What was that voice in the bedroom last night?"

His grandmother, with tears in her eyes, pulled him tightly to her and said, "That was the devil." She said nothing more about the episode, but she did insist that her son take her back to her own home immediately. It was an unreasonable request, and her son tried to talk her out of it. But the grandmother was adamant, and finally her son agreed to take her home the following day.

The entire family made the trip of over a hundred miles back to the grandmother's farm, and within an hour of their arrival, the grandmother suffered a massive stroke and died. Ever since that event, the man had felt a heavy burden of guilt associated with his grandmother's death. Yet there was no conscious reason for him to have felt that way. The entire event was poignant and mystifying, but in all the alien encounters he had subsequently undergone, he had felt that the aliens were his friends and were helping him by expanding his psychic abilities.

A regression session was arranged, and in the course of the hypnosis, he was asked to look at that childhood experience. What he recalled was an abduction in which he and his grandmother were taken to a spacecraft in the company of reptilian aliens. He remembered the aliens telling his grandmother that they were interested in learning about her knowledge of medicinal herbs. And they offered to exchange medical information of their own. They gave the boy and the grandmother a liquid to drink, explaining that it was beneficial and would make the grandmother feel young and attractive again. So both of them drank the liquid, and the man remembered seeing his grandmother indeed looking much younger. That was the extent of his recollection.

Both he and Ms. Bartholic, who was conducting the regression, were puzzled by this, because there was nothing in the episode to account for the guilt he had felt about the grandmother's death. So Ms. Bartholic deepened the man's trance level and asked him to look at it again, with much clearer vision. And what he then recalled was much more disturbing.

The abduction, at first, followed his initial recollection. But when the liquid was drunk, he now remembered a very strong feeling of change in his body. And he saw that the grandmother didn't actually look younger. Instead, she was placed on a table and approached by one of the reptilian aliens who wanted to have intercourse with her. The liquid had acted as an aphrodisiac, yet the grandmother resisted and said that since her husband's death she would not have sex with anyone. The reptilian laughed and disappeared from the room momentarily. When he returned, he was accompanied by a man who looked exactly like the dead husband.

At this point, the grandmother agreed to have sex, but as the act was in progress, she suddenly realized that the image of her dead husband was a cruel illusion. It was actually the reptilian on top of her, and she cried out in great resistance for him to leave her alone. Once he was finished with her, he lifted up the little boy and placed him on top of the grandmother, forcing another sex act upon the both of them. Then the grandmother was removed from the table and the little boy was victimized himself by the reptilian, forced to have anal and oral sex. The grandmother protested violently, pushing the reptilian away from her grandson and interposing her body between them. "By Jesus," she shouted, "you will not touch this boy!"

That must have been the wrong thing to say, because the reptilian became very angry and threatened her. "You will die for that!" he told her, and the two people were returned to the bedroom from which they'd been taken. The next morning, the grandmother told the little boy that the devil had been there the night before, and that was when she insisted upon being taken home. And, as it turned out, she did die immediately thereafter.

This, then, was the cause of the man's lifelong sense of guilt about her death. He had been forced to have sex with her, and her death had followed shortly after. But none of this story would have emerged if Ms. Bartholic had done as most investigators do and stopped the regression after uncovering the story about the exchange of medicinal knowledge.

There are other cases in our files that show a similar deception at work in the initial hypnotic recall. We cannot trust that first memory, it is clear, for like so much else in the abduction experience, there may well be further maskings of events.



From: "THE HARVEST CONTINUES: ANIMAL MUTILATION UPDATE", article by Linda  Moulton Howe, in "UFO" Magazine, Vol.5, No.4, 1990 (pp.16-17):

"...Throughout the history of the animal mutilations, since 1967, there have been numerous eyewitness accounts of large, glowing disks or 'silent helicopters' over pastures where dead animals were later found. One Waco, Texas rancher said he encountered two four-foot tall, light green-colored 'creatures' with large, black, slanted eyes, carrying a calf which was later found dead and mutilated. In 1983, a Missouri couple watched through binoculars as two small beings in tight-fitting silver suits worked on a cow in a nearby pasture. The alien heads were large and white in color. Nearby, a tall, green-skinned 'lizard man' stood glaring with eyes slit by vertical pupils like a crocodiles..."




{The report interviews several medical doctors who did autopsies on ET bodies from UFO crash sites... who indicate that the majority of the "grey" type alien entities actually possess a REPTIL/SAURIAN genetic base}

ET had large heads and were around 4 ft tall. They have small noses and mouths with no ears or hair. The ET photo that I have was taken by an ET, and has an eye diameter of an inch. He has his left hand raised in a salute. That hand has 4 fingers on it with one finger twice as long as either outside finger. The photo was taken at a range of 3ft from the waist up. Brain capacity is 1800 cc versus 1300 cc for the average human. The skin is grey or ashen and under the microscope appears meshlike. This meshlike appearance gives it the reptilian texture of granular skinned lizards like iguana or chameleon. There was a colorless liquid in the body without red cells, no lymphocytes, no hemoglobin. There was no digestive system, intestinal, alimentary canal, or rectal area in the ET autopsy.


CASE #17

From: "THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO'S", video by Brad Stieger

"In the late 1960's I presented my hypothesis that the reason why the most frequently reported UFOnauts resemble REPTILIAN or AMPHIBIAN humanoids may be because that is exactly what they are, highly evolved members of a serpentine or semi- aquatic species. A provocative theory is that the dinosaurs didn't really vanish, they 'evolved' into a humanoid creature that eventually ran it's course, or was destroyed in an Atlantis- type catastrophe (i.e. such as the Great Deluge - Although Steiger and others may hold to an 'evolutionary' hypothesis, this may not necessarily be the case, especially when the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and the laws of entropy are brought to bear. Instead of 'evolving' from a far less complex form, it is in fact far more likely that the serpent race MUTATED via atrophication, natural selection, environmental adaptation, survival of the fittest and most intelligent, and possibly a bit of superficial molecular shape-shifting IF as some believe regressive supernatural entities have been involved in guiding the 'evolution' of the 'serpent race' down through history... into it's various known and unknown branches, from a complex bi-pedal single species which originally inhabited the earth in ancient times - Branton).

"...I had developed this hypothesis considerably," Steiger continues, " I was delighted when I received word that Dale Russell and Ron Seguen of Canada's 'National Museum of Natural Sciences' of Ottawa, had fashioned a model of a humanoid dinosaur using Stenonychosaurus and Equallus as their inspiration. Stenonychosaurus, according to Russell, had a rather large brain and eyes with over-lapping visual fields. The 90 pound dinosaur also walked on two legs, and it appears to have had a particularly OPPOSABLE THUMB on it's three-clawed hand. The result of such scientific speculation was an astonishingly human- like creature that Russell terms a 'Dinosauroid'. The creature stands four-and-a-half feet tall, has a large, domed head, green skin, and yellow reptilian eyes. It should probably have had ears, Russell conceded, but the effect would have made it appear too human. As it is, the dinosaur on display at Canada's "National Museum of Natural Sciences" almost exactly fits the descriptions of UFOnauts provided by THOUSANDS of men and women throughout the planet who have reported close encounters..."



From: "THE UFO ABDUCTORS", by Brad Stieger (1988., Berkley Books., N.Y.), pp 5-6:

"...In the greatest number of alien encounters, the UFOnauts were described as standing about five feet tall and dressed in one-piece, tight-fitting jumpsuits. Their skin was gray, or grayish-green, and hairless. Their faces were dominated by large eyes, VERY OFTEN WITH SNAKELIKE, SLIT PUPILS. They had no discernible lips, just straight lines for mouths. They seldom were described as having noses, just little snubs if at all; but usually the witnesses saw only nostrils nearly flush against the smooth face. Sometimes a percipient mentioned pointed ears but on many occasions commented on the absence of noticeable ears on the large, round head. And, REPEATEDLY, WITNESSES DESCRIBED AN INSIGNIA OF A FLYING SERPENT ON A SHOULDER PATCH, A BADGE, A MEDALLION, OR A HELMET."



From: The "NEVADA AERIAL RESEARCH JOURNAL" for Summer, 1989. Re-print a UPI news item which appeared in a Berkley, California newspaper:

"Dale Russell, curator of fossil vertebrates at the National Museums of Canada in Ottawa, has developed a theory that intelligent life forms could have developed from the large reptiles that roamed the earth (in ancient times).

"Russell calls his imaginary creature a 'Dinosauroid' which would look like a hairless, green-skinned reptile with a bulging skull, luminous cat-like eyes and three-fingered hands...

"The amphibians evolved into a humanoid species that eventually developed a culture that ran its course or was destroyed in an Atlantis-like catastrophe--just after they had begun exploring extraterrestrial frontiers. Certain UFOnauts, then, may be the descendants of the survivors of that amphibian culture RETURNING from their space colony to monitor the present dominant species on the HOME planet."



From: A review of the 4-part documentary 'DINOSAUR', hosted by Walter Cronkite, by columnist David Norman:

"...The series finishes with an unusual flourish. In 1982 Dr.Dale Russel of the Royal Museum of Canada, Ottawa indulged in a half-serious thought experiment. He had described a small, HIGHLY PREDATORY, nimble troodont dinosaur from the Late Cretaceous, STENONYCHOSAURUS, which had AN UNUSUALLY LARGE BRAIN, large stereoscopic eyes, and grasping hands. He speculated about what might have happened to such dinosaurs if they had not become extinct. His answer was the 'dinosauroid' - a three-clawed, three-toed, large-brained, UPRIGHT, and TAILLESS dinosaur."

Norman also described the almost human-like quality of the hand of one particular saurian branch, the Iquanodon:

"...The flexible fifth finger moves a bit like a human thumb for grasping objects, while the middle three fingers are capable of little flexure. The large, stiletto-like thumb spike of Iguanodon would have been a devastating weapon. The sharp spike, coupled with the strength of the forelimb, could have punctured the toughest skin."



From: Testimonial of police officer/patrolman Herb Shermer, in regards to his description of alien creatures which he swore he encountered during an abduction experience outside of Ashland, Nebraska, shortly after midnight on December 3rd, 1967:

"They were from 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 feet tall. Their uniforms were silver-gray, very shiny. Their suits came up around their heads like a pilot's cap. On the right side of their helmet's they had a small antenna, just above where the ear would be. Their chests were bigger than ours, they were built very wiry and muscular. Their eyes were the one thing I will never forget... THE PUPIL WENT UP AND DOWN LIKE A SLIT. When they looked at me they stared straight into my eyes. They didn't blink. It was REAL uncomfortable. Their noses were flat, their mouths looked more like a slit than a regular mouth..."



From: QUEST INTERNATIONAL (c/o 15, Pichard Court., Temple Newsam., Leeds, L515 9AY., ENGLAND U.K.) -- a major British UFO research organization consisting mainly of retired Police, Security and Military personnel, and its investigation of what may well be the most documentable case of the crash-retrieval of an unidentified flying disk to date: On the 7th of May, 1989, NORAD installations allegedly tracked an unidentified object as it entered African air-space. The South African Air Force is also said to have tracked the craft by radar, traveling at a calculated speed of 5746 nautical miles per hour. The incident was related by a South African Intelligence Worker, who along with documentation of his military position, also sent documents and transcripts to two QUEST INTERNATIONAL investigators, Tony Dodd and Henry Azadehdel, telling of the event. Also, several RECORDED telephone conversations with high-ranking military and government officials were obtained which strongly suggest that "something" did in fact happen over South African terrain. Some of these recorded conversations involved military officials in South Africa who strongly reprimanding the intelligence worker-turned-informer over the phone. This was due to the fact that the informer had left South Africa for Britain, where he stayed at the house of the researchers, and then later went into hiding.

QUEST INTERNATIONAL director Graham W. Birdsall has stated that the documentation and the individuals involved in the incident are of such a nature that the event must have taken place, or the International Intelligence Community is collectively perpetrating a hoax concerning a recovered flying disk. Birdsall strongly suspects that the incidents did take place, due to the weight of evidence. Following is part of a word-for-word transcript given to the researchers by the informant, describing what he alleged to be the actual top secret report of the initial tracking of the object:

"...The object entered South African air space at 13.52 GMT. Radio contact was attempted with object, but all communications proved futile. As a result two armed Mirage fighters were scrambled. A short time later the object suddenly changed course at great speed which would have been impossible for conventional aircraft to duplicate.

"At 13.59 GMT, Squadron Leader ----- the pilot of the fighter reported that hey had radar and visual confirmation of the object. The order was given to arm and fire the experimental aircraft-mounted Thor 2 laser cannon. This was done.

"Squadron leader ----- reported that several blinding flashes emitted from the object which had started wavering whilst heading in a northerly direction. At 14.02 is was reported that the object was decreasing altitude at a rate of 3000 feet per minute. Then at speed it dived at an angle of 25 degrees and impacted in desert terrain 80 miles north of the South African border with Botswana, identified as the central Kalahari desert. Squadron leader ----- was instructed to circle the area until a retrieval team arrived. A team of Air Force Intelligence Officers, together with medical and technical staff were promptly taken to the area of impact for Investigation and retrieval. The findings were as follows:

1) a crater 150 meters in diameter and 12 meters in depth.

2) A silver coloured disk shaped object 45 degrees embedded inside of crater.

3) Around the object sand and rocks were fused together by the intense heat.

4) An intense magnetic and radio-active environment around the object resulted in electronic failure of air force equipment (causing the crash of one Air Force helicopter).

5) The object was eventually moved to an Air Force Base for further investigation.

6) The terrain of impact was filled with sand and rubble to disguise all evidence of the event having taken place..."

The report indicated that a hydraulic type landing gear was fully deployed, suggesting that electronic malfunction had caused the object to crash, probably due to the Thor 2 laser cannon having been fired at the craft. While the team observed the object at the Air Force Base a loud sound was heard. It was then noted that a hatch on the lower side of the craft had opened slightly and appeared to be stuck. This opening was later forced with the use of hydraulic pressure equipment, at which point two humanoid entities in tight fitting grey suits emerged and were promptly apprehended. The report stated that the entities were of the following description (emphasis ours - Branton):

"HEIGHT: 4-5.5 ft.; COMPLEXION: Greyish blue - skin texture smooth, extremely resilient; HAIR: Totally devoid of any bodily hair; HEAD: Oversize in relation to human proportions. Raised cranium with dark blue markings around head; FACE: Prominent cheek bones; EYES: Large and slanted upwards towards side of face. No pupils seen; NOSE: Small consisting of two nostrils; MOUTH: Small slit devoid of lips; JAW: Small in relation to human proportions; BODY/ARMS: Long and thin reaching just above knees; HANDS: CONSISTING OF 3 DIGITS, WEBBED, CLAW-LIKE NAILS; TORSO: CHEST AND ABDOMEN COVERED WITH SCALY RIBBED SKIN; HIPS: Small narrow; LEGS: Short and thin; GENITALS: NO EXTERIOR sexual organs; FEET: CONSISTING OF THREE TOES, NO NAILS AND WEBBED. NOTES: Due to AGGRESSIVE NATURE of humanoids, no samples of blood or tissue could be taken (One humanoid ATTACKED DOCTOR causing DEEP SCRATCHES ON FACE AND CHEST). When offered various food, refused to eat...

One way passage has been requested for both humanoids to Wright Patterson Air Force Base USA for more advanced investigation and research..."

Many of the details regarding these "humanoids" are actually very similar to other branches of the reptilian race as it has been described by other witnesses. It appears as if the serpent race is composed of several different branches or types, much the same as dogs or other animals retain their distinction but are composed of several different "breeds". Commonly known reptiles are devoid of bodily hair, have prominent cheek bones, large slanted eyes, small openings in place of ears, 3-digit webbed hands and feet -- except in the case of snakes etc. which lost their limbs through atrophication over 1000's of years -- have claws, are covered with "scaly" ribbed skin, and have no external reproductive organs, being egg-layers, and are aggressive and predatory in nature.

The top-secret document indicated that the passage of the object and creatures would be implemented on the 23rd of June, 1989 to Wright Patterson AFB. Actually, sources DO indicate that Wright Patterson DID IN FACT GO ON RED ALERT on that date. Subsequent documents supplied by the Intelligence source to Q.I. indicate that the creatures seemed to have a strong connection with the SAURIAN race which existed in ancient times. The exact wording of one particular document which is now in the hands of QUEST INTERNATIONAL is as follows:

"All informations found aboard alien spacecraft concerning the evolution of alien life forms indicates to an evolution similar to that which we find on Earth PRIOR TO THE EXTINCTION OF THE DINOSAURS... (the findings indicate) a high degree of adaptability. Further physiological and psychological studies performed in South Africa and in the United States points to a simple and complex structure of behavior. It would seem as if these lifeforms CAN NOT FUNCTION INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT GROUP INTELLIGENCE AND IDENTITY TOGETHER WITH A CENTRAL COMMAND. According to additional informations found aboard retrieved craft a separate race is designated superior by them. CONCLUSION:

An in-depth study and analysis of the psychological make-up and behavior prediction is advised. Studies performed on two alien life forms captured has proven that they cannot act independently from own acquired intelligence without access to communication, orders and instructions from a hierarchy or central command..."

Three different aspects of the South African affair in fact coincide very closely with what other sources have revealed concerning these reptil-saurian "alien" creatures: 1) the "saurian grays" are the lower echelon of a hidden reptilian hierarchy... the other or "superior" race that is considered to be superior is a bipedal reptilian-saurian species as well, although they are a different and taller "branch" of the serpent race; 2) the serpent race - saurians - reptilians operate on a "collective consciousness" level as if the individual alien beings are -- to put it in one perspective -- individual "cells" in an immense hive-like mind, or "body" of a single immense creature. Actually there seems to be a COMBINATION of both individuality AS WELL AS "collective" or "group" consciousness operating within these entities. 3) The description of the "aliens" as well as the electromagnetic nature of their craft corresponds exactly with descriptions given in HUNDREDS of separate reports of this nature.

The Intelligence Officer who contacted QUEST INTERNATIONAL and provided them with the information, claims he did so out of concern for the security of the human race as a whole, and although he was pressured into signing a 'National Secrecy Act' form he believes that he would be guilty of treason  against the human race if he did not disclose what he knew, and what the governments were trying to hide.




"...Lew Tery, who has recently relocated to Utah, was the foremost local proponent of geomagnetic vortex/UFO connection theory. Lew was instrumental in the discovery of underground tunnel networks in the Las Vegas area, one of them being between the base of Boulder Dam and Jumbo Peak, where there are two mines whose owners view 200' diameter disks on a frequent basis. At one point, Lew offered to set up an interview with these miners. Alas, Mr. Tery is not to be found.

"A local Henderson resident, who shall remain nameless, has been into inner earth research for years. This person has been hounded and chased due to intimate knowledge of inner earth tunnels in the local area.

"There is obviously something here that some people wish to protect. Something to hide. Many seem to know what it is, and they speak cautiously about REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS and the SERPENT RACE, which are two subjects which seem to be surfacing again. Response to local television and radio programs featuring JOHN LEAR have been overwhelming. A recent lecture in Las Vegas drew over 700 people.

"According to some sources, the 'Greys' are the lower level of a bigger scenario that involves this reptilian race..."



From: Actual letter from John Lear {yes, John Lear the Ace Test Pilot, holder of every flying medel the F.A.A. has to offer, son of William P. Lear - inventor of the 8-Track stereo and founder of Lear Jet corp., etc.} addressed to T.L. [full name on file], dated October 6, 1990:

"Dear [T.L.]... Many thanks for your recent, very interesting letter. I showed it to Bob (i.e. Lazar - Branton) and he thinks we are both crazy. He does not believe that Dulce exists. Bob went through extreme brainwashing at S-4 so I can understand his feelings. About the time that he was brainwashed, maybe a little before, he told me that Dulce was mentioned up there once or twice in conversations that he was not part of...but that he overhead. Since that time he has forgotten even that part. Since I know Dulce exists, what Bob thinks does not affect me in the least.

"A source of mine that is a security guard at the test site tells me that currently there are 5 types of aliens there: The Greys, the Orange, the reptilians, the ones that look like [the aliens] in the movie 'V' and the ones that look so ugly that they take your breath away until you get used to looking at them.

"I now believe that a very large Saucer crashed near Sedona, possibly 2 years ago and is in the process of being retrieved in sections, as it is too big to remove in one piece.

"The recent stories in Aviation Week, I believe, are attempts to buy more time, to mislead the public and to confuse the issue (Note: Lear is here referring to the article in the Oct. 1, 1990 issue of AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY, titled "Secret Advanced Vehicles Demonstrate Technologies For Future Military Use". The article referred only to the fairly well-known super- advanced jets being tested in Nevada, giving the impression that these may explain all of the 'UFO' sightings in the area - Branton).

"Again, I appreciate very much your fascinating letter and look forward to more information on Dulce... With much respect and admiration... JOHN LEAR."



From: Lecture given by researcher Michael Lindemann on behalf of the "20/20 Group" (3463 State St., Suite 264., Santa Barbara, CA 93105), in Lancaster, California, on Oct. 20, 1991:

Indeed this whole 'end game' is very vulnerable and that's why they feel it requires such secrecy. The American people wouldn't stand for this stuff if they had the information, and that's the reason why we have to get the information out and take it seriously because it really is a matter of OUR money and OUR future that's being MORTGAGED here.

"But my friend who worked in the underground bases, who was doing sheetrock was down on, he thinks, approximately the 30th level underground... these bases are perhaps 30-35 stories deep ('ground-scrapers' as opposed to a 'sky-scrapers' - Branton). As I say they are not just mine shafts, these are huge, giant facilities... many city blocks in circumference, able to house tens of thousands of people. One of them, the YANO Facility (we're told... by the county fire dept. director, the county fire dept. chief who had to go in there to look at a minor fire infraction) there's a 400-car parking lot on the 1st level of the YANO Facility, but cars never come in and out, those are the cars that they use INSIDE.

"O.K., so... a very interesting situation down there. Our guy was doing sheetrock on the 30th floor, maybe the 30th floor, underground. He and his crew are working on a wall and right over here is an elevator door. The elevator door opens and, a kind of reflex action you look, and he saw three 'guys'. Two of them, human engineers that he'd seen before. And between them a 'guy' that stood about 8 to 8 1/2 feet tall. Green skin, reptilian features, extra-long arms, wearing a lab coat, holding a clip-board...

"I tend to believe that story because, first of all because we have other stories like it, but more importantly because he walked off that job that very day. And he was getting paid a GREAT deal of money... If your basically a sheetrock kind of guy, if you can do sheetrock in a place like that then you get paid way more than standard sheetrock wages, you can count on it.

"So, he walked off that job. His buddy on that same crew turned into an alcoholic shortly after. This is an extremely upsetting thing. You know, it wasn't like this alien jumped out and bit his head off or anything, it was just standing there for a few minutes, the doors closed. He has a feeling that that elevator was malfunctioning, otherwise he never would have seen that except by accident.



From: Lecture given by researcher Michael Lindemann on behalf of the "20/20 Group" (3463 State St., Suite 264., Santa Barbara, CA 93105), in Lancaster, California, on Oct. 20, 1991:

"...Lot's of ordinary citizens in the Lancaster area...are having close-up  alien encounters... the first one is a woman with a number of children who in 1972 was living with her then husband in Ridgecrest, California... This woman had never read any books about UFO's or aliens, and didn't have any interest in it. Indeed today she has not read any books.

The first thing she tried to do recently when she realized that she had had alien encounters, was she went out and rented Whitley Strieber's movie 'COMMUNION', the video tape, and she stuck it in the machine and barely a minute into the movie she got very anxious and nauseous and ran out of the house. That was her only attempt to inform herself on, let's say, literature  or information about aliens, and yet this woman has had astonishing  experiences."

Following an entirely waking experience where she observed a seemingly half-physical or apparitional 'Grey' near her home, which faced the open Mojave desert (the nearest neighbor being about two blocks away), she began having more intense experiences which she knew took place - but could not entirely understand or recall all of the details. She described the creature in the traditional 'gray' configuration as reported by so many other  'abductees' -- short and gray with a large head and large black slanted  eyes -- which in light of her ignorance of the overall UFO phenomena, according to Lindemann, only tends to substantiate her story.

As a result of this initial experience, Lindemann explains, she contacted a hypnotherapist, a woman who incidentally had never read a UFO book herself. This psychologist concluded -- through various tests and observations -- that the woman from Ridgecrest was entirely sane and sincere. Michael Lindemann continues:

"...This woman has had lots and lots of experiences since then. Her next  experience was also a waking experience which TURNED INTO an experience that she could not remember except through regression. But the 'waking' part of it was the 'clue' that she needed to start exploring her hidden memories.

"Her husband went off on a training program, he worked for a telephone  company, (and) went off on a training program for a number of weeks some time later, toward the end of 1972.

"She was staying at home with her children. Of course because they were in an isolated spot, she slept in her bed with a loaded shotgun, and she was a very light sleeper, kind of nervous.

"One night she woke up because there was 'rustling' in her room. She looked and she saw what she thought was a sort of hooded, black figure over by her  dresser. It looked as if somebody was sort of 'playing' with her jewelry box. And she of course felt as if someone had probably broken into the house.

"But as she was kind of thinking to herself, 'What can I do, what can I do,' kind of gripping her shot gun, she made a little involuntary gasp, and whoever it was turned around and walked over to her.

"She described this being as about...4 1/2 feet tall, very, very dark, with  very... she said it looked like a lizard! Very rough skin, big yellow eyes...not the huge black almond shaped eyes...large, yellow with a slit iris, a muzzle, teeth. She said it looked like an iguana. And she said that IMMEDIATELY she could tell that this being was very menacing and didn't like her at all. This being was dangerous and nasty, and not to be trusted.

"She didn't remember what happened next, all she knew was she was terrified, because this being was literally leaning right into her face as she lay there in bed.

"And in regression she found out the rest of that particular story. She was floated downstairs and she found that some GREYS were PHYSICALLY CARRYING her three children outside to a waiting craft. She was levitated outside to the same craft.

"She recognized immediately that this black lizard-like guy, which she later learned actually had a tail... was actually WORKING WITH THE GREYS, but, she said, they did not (always) get along. It was the 'Greys' craft... she was literally 'listening' to their 'telepathy'. They were conversing about her  as she was lying on a table in the craft waiting for their decision on what to do. She became convinced that the black one wanted to KILL her, and the Greys were 'saying'... 'No... not on OUR ship.' She said she saw something  horrifying at that point. She said the black one just 'swept' its hand across the chest of one of the greys and literally tore the greys chest  open. It fell to the ground and she thinks it died. She says, 'I know they have GREEN blood, I saw it bleed.'"

Before one feels too 'sorry' however for the 'greys', they should understand that many accounts indicate that the greys have participated in an unknown numbers of animal and human mutilations in order to use the animal AND HUMAN secretions as a 'liquid protein' food source, the 'substance' [human/animal  flesh and vital fluids] is mixed in large tanks containing hydrogen peroxide to kill bacteria, and then the Greys soak in the substace into their skin, in that they do not have an operational digestive tract, and the 'waste' is excreated back out through the exterior like a snake/lizard shedding it's skin. Also, if we are to believe some of the more fantastic claims of  crash-retrievals, such mutilated animal and human organs have been discovered within or among the debris of crashed alien GREY craft. The 'reptilian' hierarchy seems to operate in an exactly opposite manner as the JudeoChristian ethic, and instead of operating on faith-love-service the reptilian or saurian hierarchy is said to operate on fear-hatred-competition. Since both the Greys and lizard-like Reptiloid 'aliens' operate on 'collective consciousness' and are neo-saurian in nature according to many sources, and since they have a similar agenda which seems  to be imperialistic - conquest motivated, they inevitably work together in what Michael Lindemann refers to as a 'wedding of convenience'. From one perspective, one should NOT see these 'Iguanas' as being much worse than the Greys. For what the green-blooded 'greys' lack in the way of demoniacal 'hatred' or contempt for humankind as the Reptiloids are often seen to express, they seem to make up for it in their profound apathy and 'intellectual indifference' to the good of the human race. Over and over again abductees describe the greys as emotionless and methodical, and seemingly show no sympathy or pity whatsoever toward human suffering or death, but merely look upon it with scientific 'curiosity'. Although 'hatred' would seem to be the opposite of 'compassion', others would argue that 'indifference' is the antithesis of compassion, caring or love. From this perspective, 'indifference' to human life may be no less evil than raging 'contempt' for human life. BOTH may be the motivating factors behind all kinds of atrocities. In reference to the case referred to above, Lindemann continues:

"...Her hypnotherapist said to us at this point, 'You know, you really ought to understand that this woman is a very, very good hypnotic subject and she actually re-lives her experiences in real time in the first person. She goes through all of the emotions and she has incredible recall of detail.'

"...She a therapist of long standing she has no reason to doubt that the detail that this woman brings forward is essentially accurate. It matches of course in many, many particulars the kind of information that  other abductees have also told.

"...One of the other disturbing things that this woman has mentioned... is  that in other sessions where she was abducted, she found herself in an  underground facility which she feels quite certain was at George Air Force Base where she grew up. And in that facility underground she saw the greys  were working side by side with human military personnel [or are they REALLY 'human' military personnel!? - Branton]. And we do have other reports, not  only 'we' but many people who study the abduction phenomena, collective  reports indicating that the abduction phenomenon is occurring right UNDER  the noses of our own officials, that there is apparently some agreement operating here..."




"...[Brazilian] Jefferson Souza claims that the following revelations are from the personal notes and scientific diaries of a scientist who was commissioned by the U.S. Government over a period of several years to visit all crash sites, interrogate captured Alien Life Forms and analyze all data  gathered from that endeavor. Eventually this person was discovered to have  kept and maintained personal notes on his discoveries and was therefore scheduled for termination [not just "job termination"!]... which he narrowly escaped. Following 33 years of investigations, he went in to hiding in 1990:

Here is some data which this anonymous informant reportedly gathered on the Reptilian type alien entities:

Average Height: Male - 2.0 Meters; Female - 1.4 Meters

Average Weight: M - 200 Kilos; F - 100 Kilos

Body Temperature: M - Ambient Temperature; F - Ambient Temperature

Pulse/Resperation: M - 40/10; F - 40/10

Blood Pressure: M - 80/50; F - 80/50

Life Expectancy: M - 60 Earth Years; F - 23 Earth Years

Cold-blooded like all reptiles, the Reptiloid is found to flourish in a warm, tropical clime [normally artificial... big caves]. With imperfect respiration providing just enough oxygen to supply tissues and maintain the  processing of food and combustion, their temperature can be raised only a few degrees above the ambient [this suggests that 'heat' weapons, like flame-throwers and so on, may prove to be very effective and fatal to this species under battle conditions]. The reproductive system is ovouniparous, with eggs hatching in the oviduct prior to birth. The underdeveloped  Reptiloid [for faster activities, physical activities] cerebellus results in  a slowness and simpler city of movement. The Reptiloid eye is composed of  thousands of microscopic facets, each facet with its own independent protective lid. The eye is almost never closed entirely during waking hours; rather, sections of the organ are shut down in conjunction with the dominant light source. The reptiloids survived 'hidden' inside the Earth [within] Big Caves Underground.



From: Jim T. {a post as it appeared on an e-mailing discussion list which will remain confidential...}

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Suggested Title: "THE HAMMER OF TIME"...

[Intro: The following is a very unusual post, as if the subject of "reptilians" is not unusual enough, THIS post deals with apparent temporal manipulation such as that being experimented with by the Montauk projects -- which the 'Draconian' forces based below the Gizeh plateau reportedly have a strong investement in. Some have suggested that with all of the temporal causality violations taking place in our time or world-line, linear 'reality' as we know it will eventually begin to dissolve into a multi-linear reality somewhat in-between a reality-scape and a dream-scape, or rather the very foundations of the linear third dimension as we percieve it will begin to fluxuate. So genetic, psychological, fraternal, political,  and economic manipulation is apparently not the only form of "intervention" that the Dracos have been involved with. It is said that earth's unique  electromagnetic grid allows for the possibility of strange temporal manipulations, and even alternate "time branches". The clincher is that there is only so much energy to go around in that -- like a tree -- all  "time branches" feed off of the same BASE or TRUNK... so the more "branches" that exist the less energy there is to go around.

Apparently the Montauk Project and its Draconian overseers have generated several alternate history lines, some having failed to aquire full material manifestation... in essence liquifying into fourth dimensional ectoplasmic  realities, whereas others possess the necessary collective psionic/psychic energy focus to convert subatomic energy-waves into matter-particles. There are claims that THIS area of the galaxy surrounding planet earth is MUCH  OLDER than surrounding sectors, due to the various alternate time-line "replays", and that even THIS worldline is not the original... i.e. that much temporal manipulation has occured... for instance Naval Philadelphian Montauk agents going back in time from an original[?] worldline in order to stop Germany from winning the 2nd World War, and renegade Pleiadeans, etc., -- who were actually descended from German/Nordic space colonists in the original worldline -- coming back to help Hitler in THIS worldline  defeat the Normandy invasion... which they failed to do, however they DID succeed in helping the Germans infiltrate America and take over the Montauk  Projects by taking over the NSA/CIA.

According to some "Montauk" researchers, John F. Kennedy lived to a good old age in an "earlier" timeline and once he discovered the Nazi infiltration of the Montauk Projects and the involvement of Draconian Reptiloids, Rigelian  Greys and Sirian-B/Aldeberon Aryans, he came down HARD on the project, but not before several Thule-Society agents were able to escape back in time and assassinate Kennedy [many unusual paranormal events were involved with the JFK murder]. There are also claims that other "aliens" came back from the  future of the ORIGINAL worldline and wiped out most of the earth's  population via biological warfare... thank God we are not living in THAT dimension. However these "aliens" [genetic hybrids from the original worldline's FUTURE] ARE reportedly very involved in THIS worldline... some have our best interests at stake, whereas others DO NOT. Anyway, in order to keep from going insane with confusion, it might be easier to view time as a  TREE rather than a LINE.

Even though other time or world-lines may exist, they are still nevertheless  part of the same METAVERSAL REALITY [tree]. Montauk agents admit that in order to change the history of one "timebranch" they would have to change all branches simultaneously, which is apparently impossible. It is said that the energy grid of planet earth [which is UNIQUE in the universe] can only energize half a dozen or so THIRD DENSITY [or third density FACET] worldlines... as it takes energy to maintain a linear/material reality...  above and beyond this, reality becomes a bit "slippery", as the ENERGY/matter ratio drifts more to the ENERGY side. It is said that there is  at least ONE worldline that is even more dense/linear than THIS one, one in  which one does not encounter a multiplicity of Fortean-type paranormal  manifestations, phenomena which is apparently the resulting factor of a reality that has experienced major temporal cuasality violation and  manipulation... and as a result many believe that THIS worldline will begin to drift into a more energized multilinear reality in or around the year 2012...

The following is apparently ONE of the MAJOR efforts on the part of the Alien/Human Montauk agenda to generate a worldline through temporal  manipulation... one involving a Nuclear attack on American soil in the fall [Nov.] of 1997. There were several prophecies of this occurance, however most now say that it did NOT. But there have been OTHERS besides Jim [see following post] who claim to have encountered this alternate reality... one in which the DRACO interventionists are apparently implicated to the core. Some may have the feeling that they are existing in one or more "dimensions" simultaneously. Could THIS explain such feelings? The human soul can only produce so much energy, and like the energy grid of planet earth itself the human soul can only exist in so many dimensions at once before it is "spread  too thin"... however more subtle levels of our soul can apparently interact with "weaker" event-lines. As I said there are reportedly only half a dozen or so ACTUALITY LINES... then there are the more energized PROBABILITY LINES  [quasi-3d realities], the POSSIBILITY LINES [ectoplasmic realities], and GHOST LINES [dream pools or used up possibility - probability - actuality lines... may become activated on an ectoplasmic level as collective human conscious energy focus breathes "life" into them]. Because of a lack of linear solidity the more energized lines may seem like dreamscapes without any major linear consistency. They may seem so simply because that is  exactly what they ARE, astral dream pools where dreamers interact on a more collective unconscious level via psionic "long waves" as they descend into the deeper levels of consciousness during sleep.

But enough of this postulating. As I stated, several claim to have had interactions with the following parallel reality. The question would be, did time-agents go back into the past to CREATE or to PREVENT this nuclear attack in the fall of 1997? If you are one who desires to be part of a  universe that you can put in a box and fully comprehend, then such discussions of a multi-faceted holographic reality may not be for you. I do not believe in infinite ACTUALITY lines as depicted in the SLIDERS series  [SCI-FI channel] however I do suspect that if there are any muti-dimensional imperialistic parasites that could be equivicated to the "Cromags" in that series, it would be the DRACOS... Here is the post as it was sent to me:

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I am forwarding two posts (this is the first one) that Jim and I have written so others who did not have a chance to see this can know what Jim and I are going through. regards, [***]


Hi Everyone,

I have been waiting to see if anybody else on the list may have experienced something similar. I don't want to put thoughts in others heads though. This was not a dream, it was not a obe, it was real, it did happen.

And Dracos are real and they bleed red blood.

I can't explain it, I don't know how it happened or why. All I know is it did happen. It was three weeks ago, and I still have mixed feeling about posting it here. But here goes.

I climbed to the roof of the building I was working on. (Rebuilding and expanding the capacity of a silo that stores plastic pellets at [*** ***  ***] Inc. in Evansville IN.)

When I got to the top I felt dizzy, and disoriented, for a few seconds. (I thought I was having another numbness attack that I told [***] I've been having) I grabbed hold of a pipe to get my balance. When I felt stable again, I looked around, everything had changed. The sky was grey and smoky looking, buildings all around me were either demolished or still smoldering from fire. There were cars on the hiway out front, wrecked or just abandoned, there were bodys, some still smoldering laying everywhere. It was sickening.

I just stood there, looking in amazement. I was trying to figure out if I had missed something, or if I was dreaming. But I WAS there, my truck was gone, and so was Lee. All my tools, welding leads, torches, and material were gone.

And then I realized that the bins that I was working on were finished. I opened the lid of the one I was working on at the time and it was half full of material. It was then that I realized that I must be in the future.

I began to look for something with a date on it so I could find out where  exactly I was. (If I was in the future) I then realized that it was colder than it was a few seconds ago. Then I hear a roar that sound like trucks and tracks clanking, (Like a bulldozer). It was an armored column of military vehicles coming down the hiway towards where I was. I then heard shooting, machine guns and small arms fire. The armored column was surrounding the building where I was.

It was then that I realized that the factory where I was working was not damaged. As a matter of fact it was still in operation. (I could here the hammer mill still running) What ever the soldiers were shooting at was inside the building I was on. And somebody was shooting back.

There were two tanks in this column, one of them pulled up right in front of this building, and began firing into it. The whole building shook. Then the black craft came, triangular. I saw it but I didn't believe it, It made a  high pitched noise and the tank in front of the building that was firing, exploded.

But these soldiers knew what they were doing. One of the wheeled armored vehicles took off across the open field, and this craft began to follow it. As it went past the rest of the soldiers, five of them jumped up from the ditch with, what I think were stinger missiles, (Shoulder mounts) and fired simultaneously at the craft. The explosion hurt my ears, but they did knock it down, and it crashed into the field. (They all began to cheer) but not for long. The other tank then appeared from nowhere and began firing its big gun at it rapidly until there was nothing left of it.

I was very confused watching all of this from the roof. Then I heard more vehicles coming. They were soldiers too. I first thought it was reinforcements, but they began to fight each other. Now I was totally confused. And there was still someone shooting from inside the building I was on.

I felt that I was in the middle of this, and didn't really know what side I  was on. I felt it better to stay hidden until I could sort things out. I was  looking for a safer place when I remember that they had kept a delivery log for the rail cars coming in with materials, in the control room right below me. So I decided to go down and see if I could find a date.

I climbed down the ladder on the side of the bin, and stepped through the door to the control room. There was no one in there and I found the log. The last shipment that was recorded was dated monday, Oct. 6, 97. But the calendar on the wall was turned to Nov. 97, so I had no Idea what day it actually was.

From where I was, I could see the whole production floor, but I could see  no-one moving anywhere. I decided I was safer on the roof where I was, so I climbed back up the bin ladder and hid behind a wall where I could see better.

The roof was covered with a layer of ash, I first thought it was a covering  of light snow. (It was cold enough) I assumed the ash was from burning buildings. As I was looking at the ash I could see my foot prints where I had walked. And then I felt the hair on the back of my neck stand up, as I realized there were other foot prints also, (over mine) I realized I was not  alone on the roof. But these footprints were different, they were long and  narrow.

I followed them with my eyes, to see where they went. I didn't have to look far. There he was, (I think it was a he) standing about ten feet from me, but he did not see me. It was a draco, like the ones I saw at epcot [Note: 'Jim' saw such a creature in an astral-type experience, although THIS experience he claims was NOT an astral trip - ed.]. I could feel the adrenaline running through my body. My first thought was to hide, but there was nowhere to hide. And nowhere to run.

I looked to see if he had a weapon, but I couldn't see any. Then from deep within me I felt a rage, a rage like I never had felt before. I wanted to kill him. [Apparently responding to the reports that he had heard about on 'the list' in the past concerning what the Draco do to people that they have  abducted to their underground 'concentration camps' on earth. - ed.] Before I could even think, I found myself standing up and walking toward him. He  turned and saw me, (I didn't think they showed emotion, but when he saw me, I saw fear in his reptile looking face.) But then I saw his eyes, they were  snake eyes, and they looked mean.

When I looked at his eyes, I felt as if he was looking right through me. Now I have been in a number of bar room brawls, and I could always tell when  someone was going try to sucker punch me, by there eyes. (It don't work with  dracos!) That sucker nailed me and I didn't even see it coming. I'm not even sure if he even hit me physically, it felt more like a shock wave.

Now I've been knocked down enough in fights, that I know if you don't get back up fast your done. So I sprung up and lunged at him. I caught him off balance, I don't think he expected that. I went for his throat. I have found that if you cut off a persons air supply they come around to your way of thinking pretty fast. But when I gabbed his skinny, but hard as rock throat, I felt as if I had grabbed a pineapple. And as he moved I could feel it cutting my hands. I figured I could handle the pain a lot longer than he could go without air. But as I was squeezing with all of my strength on his throat, he put his hands on my chest, and threw me back. I couldn't hold on.

I could tell from this that I was no match for him without a weapon. And I had none. And I knew I had to stay in control, and show no fear. I didn't want to lunge at him again, cause the last time hurt. But I lunged again, this time I double my fist, and went for his eyes. But I found out that dracos have sharp eyelids too.

I was beginning to doubt that I could hurt him. And then he spoke, "What's wrong warrior, have you under estimated your enemy?"

I knew he was right, but I answered, "I wasn't sure you were the enemy, but thanks for straightening that fact out for me."

Then I felt the rage building inside again, so I lunged again, this time I hit him as hard as I could, in the side of the head. I think it stunned him, but not for long. Again he threw me back, this time I slid backward against  the exhaust fan from the building. As I tried to get up, he dove on top of me and said, "Now you die for your bad judgment."

He felt a lot heavier than he looked, I could not throw him off. I thought I was about to die. But then I saw my eastwing hammer, it was hanging on the inside of the vent cover. I reached up and grabbed it. And swung it as hard as I could at his head. When I hit him he squealed like a hog. His body went limp, and I rolled him off of me. Then I kept hitting him just to be sure. They are reptiles, they do have yellow pupils in their snake eyes, and yes they do die.

When I looked up to see what was going on out in the road, the second bunch  of soldiers, were still fighting the first ones I saw. (These were two  groups of US soldiers.) I decided it was about time for me to get the hell out of Dodge, so I climbed down my ladder and was going to try to get away, and find out what was going on. When I got to the bottom I felt this dizziness again. I turned and my truck, and Lee were there. And everything was as it was before. I asked him if he had seen anything, and he said no. And asked me what was going on, and what had happened. I said how long was I  gone. and he told me I had just went up the ladder, and then came right back down. Then he asked what happen to my hands. (They were bleeding bad from  the cuts.) I told him I did not know, I must have cut them on the ladder. He looked at me kind of disbelieving and asked what the white stuff was, that I had all over me. I said I did not know. (but it was the ash from the roof.)

When I finished the job, three days later, I took my eastwing hammer, and hung it on the exhaust fan cover on the roof. And that's where it will stay, I don't know how it got there when I needed it, but I was taking no chances. (If it weren't for safety factors, I would go exchange my hammer for a 44 Mag. Might save me from cutting my hands.)

Now, if someone could possibly explain this to me, I would be in their debt. I have mixed feelings about this, at first I felt it was a mind control trick to confuse me, and the list. But since, I have had dreams, and obe's, that make me feel this is real. (And also some cuts on my hands.) [***] and  I believe others on this list were in these dreams. I have been waiting to see if anyone else would post something about this.

One question for [***], was I in danger, could this Draco have killed me? What would have happened, would I have just disappeared, or fallen off of  that ladder dead? Just one of many questions.

The only thing that I know for sure is, don't hit a dracos without gloves on, because it hurts.


{Note: Steven Gibb and a woman named 'Tianca' also claim to have encountered  this reality, Gibb astrally and Tianca physically, via mental transposition. The astral realm seems to be the major NEXUS between all parallel realities, both natural & artificial...}



From: Rev. Billy Dee & Alan deWalton

Date sent: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:06:43 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: (Fwd) [Fwd: [SW_discuss] More Reptoid-NWO research & confirmation

Billy, could you re-send me your description of the reptilian "interrogation" that your confidential friend in the intelligence agency was involved in?...

Peace in Christ;



[Billy Dee's response to the above post...]

Hi Alan!

Back in 1994 or 95 a man I met on the internet was in the military black projects or operation's. He was an officer in the military and served a number of years. I was able to have several personal phone call discussions with him, as well as my contacts knew of the person and told me he was very credible and his claims were acceptable.

This officer had worked in area 51. I think he had worked in other military bases, but I don't recall the names of them at this time. But in area 51 he had worked with several types of alien beings. Some of which were the alien "Greys", the tall and humanoid appearing being's and some other types which again I don't recall.

I would like to add that he knew Bob Lazar and that he was there when Bob was working at "Dreamland". This officer tried to help Bob out with the trouble he was in. But to make a long story short most of us realize the Lazar was fired from his position at area 51.

Anyway, this officer had explained to me in detail that he had had the opportunity to interrogate a few "reptillian" alien beings. The interrogation was not just words and mere questioning. Although that did go on, there was physical force used on the alien to attempt to get answers to questions. After the interrogation was completed, the officer quickly shot the alien in the head and thus killed him almost immediately. I had stated that that was very violent and asked if it was necessary to execute the alien in the first place. The officer laughed while explaining to me of his delight in executing the alien "reptoid". He then further explained that the "reptillians" hate human kind with a passion. They only want to see humankind dead. The hatred these beings have towards humans is incredible and they will do anything to destroy the human.

The "Reptillian" did state under questioning that the "Greys" are their slaves. The "Greys" are the ones that carry out the abduction's, implants and other task the "Reptillian" masters order them to do. I was told that the "Reptillians" rarely come out and are seen. They make their "Grey" slaves do all the work and all the visitation's. But once in awhile a Reptillian will do some work that needs to be done with humans.

The "Reptillians" are human shaped and formed. But beyond that, they have a leathery type skin which appears as either snake like or scale like.

Getting back to the interrogation and execution of the "Reptillian" by this officer (I forgot to mention there were other military personal present at the interrogation), the Reptillians are dangerous. Held in captivity they will take every possible advantage to kill a human. This is the reason the being was not kept and confined.

It kind of seemed sadistic when this officer explained to me of the executing of the alien with a chuckle. I could not understand why it was so funny! But as I said, the "Reptillian" is considered an extremely hateful and murderous being of humankind and will stop at nothing to kill humans.

I guess that is the reason the officer laughed at his desrciption of how he executed the alien being. He was glad to have killed him and thus put away another "Reptillian" that would if given the chance kill another human.

From what this officer told me I am convinced without a doubt that the "Reptiallian" beings may be the most dangerous and homicidal alien beings that are here on this world at the present time...

God Bless

Billy Dee

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Date sent: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:21:15 -0700 (PDT)

From: Alan DeWalton

Subject: Re: Alan DeWalton asks Billy Dee about Reptoids!

To: UFOSSI@u...

Hi Billy;

THANK YOU very much for sharing the info. I seem to recall that you may have mentioned that the interrogator[s] learned that the reptilians are resident underneath the surface of the earth and that they intend to invade our surface world sometime in the future [and that one of the reasons your contact killed the reptilian{s} was because it bragged about what they would do to us and our children when the "invasion" came]. Did I misread your earlier version of the interrogation story? If so I must have heard the surface invasion thing from somewhere else.


Dear Bro. Alan!

Yes, I did mention in my other recall of the Reptoids about them living underground and their deep desire to kill humankind. Go ahead and use the information I gave you. Thats fine with me...

God Bless You

Bro. Billy Dee




The following are excerpts from the DULCE BOOK, chapter 30 -- "Revelations from the Leading Edge" -- which include the research and writings of John Grace [aka Val Valerian] in regards to reptilian life forms...

* Researchers will recall that the disk that crashed in 1947 at Roswell, New Mexico had several reptilian species on board, as well as the body parts and clothing of several Army-Air Force officers...


The larger Grays apparently have some vestigial reproductive capability, and some of the hybrid species that have been cross-bred with the [taller] reptilian species have full reproductive capability. The brain capacity is estimated to be between 2500 and 3500 cc, compared to 1300 cc for the average human. Due to the cloning process, the neural matter is artificially grown brain matter, and the Grays have known technology that enables them to insert memory patterns and consciousness into clones in any manner or pattern that they wish.

The Greys consume nourishment through a process of absorption through their skin. The process, according to abductees who have witnessed it, involved spreading a biological slurry mixture that has been mixed with hydrogen peroxide [which oxygenates the slurry and eliminates bacteria] onto their skin. Waste products are then excreted back through the skin. Many abductees have noted that the Greys have a distinct series of odors...

The larger Greys have a more pronounced nose... According to some government sources, these extraterrestrial biological entities called themselves the EBAN. It is with the larger Grays that elements of the government made a series of diplomatic agreements in the 1950's, 60's and 70's...


The Greys are involved in the stockpiling of humans [including children] for use as a food source for the Reptilian species [and as a lesser food source for themselves?]...


[Alien Life Form]: Term used by the government to describe the Greys in terms of being a malevolent life form. The deal with the Greys is that their field around their body is different to ours to the point where merging of the fields ends up creating physical symptoms [the "body terror" mentioned by people like Whitley Strieber]. The field around them is in direct opposition to ours. It is an ANTI-LIFE field, as these specific species are on a devolutionary spiral. They are akin to soldiers of fortune, and 'offer' their advanced technology in trade for things they require. They are experts at manipulation of both the human body [through manipulation of the fields] and the human mind. They require blood and other biological fluids to survive. They abduct humans and animals in order to acquire these fluids. They implant small devices near the brain which potentially gives them total control and monitoring capability. These devices are very difficult to detect. The analysis of the devices by technical staff has produced a description that involves use of crystalline technology combined with molecular circuitry and these ride on the resonant emissions of the brain and the various fields of the human. Information is entrained on the brain waves. It appears that all attempts to remove the implants [1972] have resulted in the death of the human...

(This is usually due in part to the fact that the implants are attached to major nerve centers, and once attached the nerve tissues grow in and around the implant essentially making the implant a PART of the nervous system. When relatively unsophisticated medical procedures are used in an attempt to remove the implants, major nerve centers are damaged as a result, causing severe injury or even death. - Branton)

Various descriptions of the ALF's relate the following characteristics: Between 3 to 3 1/2 feet in height, erect standing biped, small thin build, head larger than humans, absence of auditory lobes [external], absence of body hair, large tear-shaped eyes [slanted approximately 35 degrees] which are opaque black with vertical slit pupils, arms resembling praying mantis [normal attitude] which reach to the knees, long hands with small palm, claw-like fingers [various number of digits -- often two short digits and two long, but some species have three or four fingers], tough gray skin which is reptilian in texture, small feet with four small claw-like toes, organs that are similar to human organs but have obviously developed according to a different [mutational] process; a non-functioning digestive system; two separate brains; movement is deliberate, slow and precise; alien subsistence requires that they must have human blood and other biological substances to survive.


(Other indications suggest that originally they did not 'require' human blood, but once having used human blood for this purpose they have since acquired a racial 'addiction' to this 'vital' substance. This goes far beyond just mere physical hunger, since the Grays/Reptiloids tend to feed off the human life-energies resident within human blood plasma, in what may be considered a vampirial type of hunger for human vital fluids. - Branton).

In extreme circumstances they can subsist on other [cattle] animal fluids. Food is converted to energy by chlorophyll by a photosynthetic process [this supports results gained from autopsies at 29 Palms underground base where it was seen that their 'blood' was greenish and the tissue was black]. Waste products are secreted through the skin. The two separate brains are separated by mid-cranial lateral bone [anterior and posterior brain]. There is no apparent connection between the two. Some autopsies have revealed a crystalline network which is thought to have a function in telepathic [and other] functions which help to maintain the group-consciousness between members of the same species. Functions of group consciousness in this species does have a disadvantage in that decisions in this species come rather slowly as the matter at hand filters through the group awareness to those who must make a decision...


This initial report is concerned with two groups of aliens: Greys and Reptilians. There are several different kinds of both Greys and Reptilians, but for now I will simply refer to them as single groups. Both groups live on this planet or beneath its surface and in space. They have been here for a long time.

The Greys are also 'working' for Reptilians, relative to the abductee as an individual and to the human race as a whole. They have been used by the Reptilians as the middlemen, doing the work and exposing themselves to us on behalf of and instead of the Reptilians (although reptilian-based, the 'saurian' Grays are less visibly so, which is why they have been chosen to interface with abductees. - Branton). The Greys are consistently referred to as a mercenary force.

Some Reptilians -- eat [humans] like we eat chicken. In the United States, there are rumors of great, underground food-storage rooms full of preserved human bodies. Sometimes the rumor has it that the bodies are those of children. I asked the Greys why, if this was true, would it be children? I was told that it is not only children but also adults that Reptilians eat.

Children are preferred because they are generally unpoisoned by substances like caffeine, nicotine, alcohol and other things adults are saturated with, as a group.

The Reptilians seem to have little regard for us as living beings. [They think that we are as ugly and repulsive to them as we ever portrayed them to be, and that we, the human race, are "as valuable as weeds."] However, they do seem to consider some of us valuable property. One gets the feeling they will continue to USE us as they see fit, or, if we ever become a real problem as a group, they would sooner wipe us out than deal with it. They do not fear us, considering themselves far superior to us by all comparisons. They supposedly consider the surface of this planet to be a poisonous, inhospitable environment and 'allow' us to live here (as lifestock? - Branton), since they live below the surface and in space. [We and our surface environment function as a physical buffer or living shield around their home underground.].

(Note: Some sources claim that many of the Greys and Reptiloids are moving en-mass to massive underground centers below major human cities for the sole purpose of having a "human shield" in order to protect themselves from earth-penetrating weapons which their 'enemies' might decide to use against them. These 'enemies' are various human worlds with common genetic ancestry that were colonized from the original Lyran/Solar Federation that has been at war with the Alpha Draconians for ages... i.e. humans from Zenatae Andromeda, Tau Ceti, Procyon, Taygeta Pleiades, Alpha Centauri, Wolf 424, Bernards Star, and other colonial worlds, many of whom -- as do the reptilians themselves -- make the 'galactica' type claim that planet earth was once the ancestral planet of genesis for their 'ancient astronauts' - Branton)

Socially and culturally, Greys and humans are VERY different. [They] fear us because they know we are potentially powerful beings. However, they insist that they 'own' us: They say they created us (LIE! - Branton) and therefore have the right to do what they will with us. Beyond this original 'right' to interfere with us, they say they have additionally earned the right through their control. Because they can control us on an individual and cultural basis both physically and mentally, they say they "own us".

These attitudes are PROPAGANDA. Their control over us in any capacity is ultimately very frail due to its very nature (depends on us NOT KNOWING that we are being controlled. - Branton). Their control is based on intimidation and advanced technology. As we become more aware, we are harder to control, harder to lie to, harder to confuse. Our technology would definitely be competitive to their theirs if we had access to it. Much of the technology we would need to effectively overcome this situation exists now (within the alien-manipulated military-industrial establishment which is part of the 'secret' or 'corporate' government technocracy - Branton). It just isn't made available to the PUBLIC, for economic reasons, as well as "national security."

The preceding statements about the Greys are based on conversations with them and long observation of them. Impressions about the Reptilians are more general. I have not engaged in conversations with the [taller] Reptilians, though they have sometimes spoken to me. Most of my experience with them does not include direct communication between me and them. Almost all of my consciously recalled memories of Reptilians also include Greys, who usually do the communicating between us. Often the Reptilians seem to be present during abductions as observers only, standing off to the side of the action, just watching...


Most "UFO buffs" think that their efforts will lead to some sensible attention by the 'Authorities' to the broad problem that UFOs present. The problem of 'are they Invaders?', 'what do they want here on earth?', and all those other nagging questions. They come to Earth for things surface people don't even know about.

Earth is on the ancient space trade routes. They come to bases [Cavern City Complexes] and they mine, manufacture, and do some genetic manipulations to form various subservient cross breeds.

THE REPTILIANS: For the most part, we are dealing with another species that is humanoid in shape, but Reptilian in heritage. Their leader elite are the 'Draco'. They even have special 'wings', which are flaps of skin, supported by long ribs. These can be folded back against the body. They are also known as the "Dragon Race" and their symbology usually includes the Winged Serpent. There are elements of their species which do not have wings -- the "soldier class" of the species and 'scientists'.

They are all "cold blooded" and have to have a balanced environment to maintain body temperature. The "soldier class" of the species can bury themselves in the ground and wait long periods of time in order to ambush their enemy. If need be they can survive on one very large meal ever few weeks or even once a year [when hibernating or in suspended animation].

As a species, they are well suited for space travel due to their ability to hibernate. These reptoids have scales which protect them from moisture loss. They have no sweat glands.

The scales [scutes] are much larger on their backs, making the skin waterproof. The scales elsewhere on the body are more flexible. They have three fingers with an opposing thumb. The eyes are catlike and large. They have twin nostrils at the end of a short stubby muzzle. They are mostly meateaters.

The mouth is more like a slit [lipless], but they have teeth which are differentiated into incisors, canines, and molars. They average from 6 to 7 feet in height.

The Reptilian [amphibian] humanoids have been interacting with Earth for ages. Many contactees and abductees repeatedly describe an insignia of a Flying Serpent on a shoulder patch, a badge, a medallion or a helmet. The Serpent Race lives under the ground.

THE GREYS: The Reptilian species directs the efforts of the worker class, which are about 4 feet tall. These are currently referred to as Greys or EBE's, and are the largest category likely to be encountered by surface humans.

These beings [the Greys] operate very efficiently in the dark. Their eyes are more sensitive to ultraviolet light. They have the ability to control their heart rate. The normal heart rate for a Grey is above that of a human. The skin seems to have a metallic content and an unusual cobalt pigmentation. Many have no external sex organs. Some have been bred to have them.

(Note: Most reptiloids that have been encountered have been described as having no exterior sex organs, however on a few occasions reptiloids HAVE been described as having external sex organs. In nearly EVERY case that I have heard of where 'these' reptiloids were encountered, the abductee was a female human who was forcibly 'raped' by the reptilian within an underground base or even within their own homes during the abduction-encounter - Branton)

One variety of Reptilian crossbreed is particularly negative and dangerous. This variety, who work with the Draco, do not 'eat' in the same way humans do. These hive-like beings use synthetically produced substances, mixed with blood. Thus slurry is sometimes mixed with Hydrogen Peroxide, which kills the foreign bacteria and viruses. They may also be feeding off the "life essence energy" of the substances. They also seem to 'feed' off nuclear energy, and have manipulated humans into developing sources of nuclear power that emit radiation. Nuclear methods involved use of neutrons to create radiation. Methods that use positrons emit no radiation.

The 'Greys' [the short, "Big Heads"] are mercenaries. They interface with humans in "Secret Societies" and within the Military/Governmental Complex. An interconnected 'WEB' manipulates the surface Earth cultures.

COMMAND PROGRESSION: DRACO [Winged Reptilian] -->DRACO [Non-Winged -- white, brown, green skinned, etc.] --> Greys --> Humans [collaborators]...


In general, there are three kinds of Greys: The Reticulans, who are about 4.5 feet tall; those from Bellatrix [in the Orion system] that are about 3.5 feet tall; and another species of Orion (Rigelian? - Branton) Greys that range in height from 6 to 9 feet tall...

The planetoid that is entering our solar system at this time [it will be here in the coming years] has been written up in several major newspapers, and it has been determined that it is being intelligently guided and that it emanates a large variety of frequencies within the electromagnetic spectrum [which indicates that it is occupied and has a technical culture].

Through analysis of many cases, it would appear that the tall Greys have one base near the Aleutian Islands. The taller Greys seem to have overall influence over the Reticulans and also over the Bellatrix (in Orion, where reptilian-insectoid genetic hybrid 'mercenaries' reside according to some sources - Branton) species. The influence over humans seems to center around implantation of human political figures and those in control of planetary power groups.

You will recall that 'mutilations' generally result in all of the blood being withdrawn from the body. This has been the case whether the subject is an 'animal' or a human. The blood and other fluids are then generally transferred to holding containers, or vats, [along with] other body parts.

There are many many reports of humans in various situations and scenarios having come in contact with aliens, or have been in caves or caverns with aliens, and having seen canisters or vats in which animal [or human] parts were floating, and in which a purple-red fluid was present as a substance in which to suspend all the [organic] materials.

There was one case where a woman and her two children were abducted by the entities from BELLATRIX -- the entities referred to as 'SM's' ("Snake Men"? - Branton) in THE CASE FOR THE UFO, by M. K. Jessup and annotated by Carlos Allende and 'friends' -- and she would not cooperate with them when they had her on board their ship. Their reply to this lack of cooperation was very direct -- they killed both of her children. She managed to run down a hallway and went into a room where she saw a vat full of red liquid and body parts of humans and animals. She saw another vat of the same type in which the liquid was being agitated, and as she looked into the vat she could see Greys bobbing up and down, almost swimming, absorbing the nutrients through their skin. There is also the use of H2O2 [water molecules with an extra oxygen atom added] in the vats in order to aid in preserving the fluid from rapid degeneration. These entities have been abducting humans for many centuries -- these entities view Earth as a big farm, and have been essentially raising and harvesting humans and apparently abduct humans to take them back to their home planet to raise there in a kind of human husbandry [or livestock] scenario.

There are indications that the ritual of the Eucharist is a reflection of earlier rituals where aliens were eating off the bodies of humans or feeding off their energies. The phrase "food of the gods" takes on new meaning when these factors are understood. The true "nectar of the gods" which the aliens involved seem to prize most is a substance that is taken from freshly killed humans. This substance is generated at the moment of death by the strong surge of adrenaline. This surge of adrenaline through the body accumulates at the base of the brain [the brain stem] and some aliens thrive on this substance as though it were some kind of ultimate drug for their particular species. This substance is most potent in HUMAN CHILDREN.

In the Draco system there are other types of entities which have visited the Earth in the past. These entities were described by John Keel in his book THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES, released in the 1970's. The Draco are about 8 feet tall and have winged appendages coming out of their shoulders, dark scaly skin, and have glowing red eyes. They have the ability to fly and usually operate at night. These entities, as well as the elite of the other Reptilian species [that also have winged appendages] were the source for some of the legends of the past relating to gargoyles and Valkyries. It is also apparent that some of the qualities ascribed to vampires have also been taken from these creatures.

Interjection: These 'elite' reptilians have gone by many names: Gargoyles, Mothmen, Birdmen, Winged Draco, Winged Serpents, Ciakars, etc. One such creature that had literally tortured one female abductee -- who was taken to a multi-leveled underground system below camp Hero at Montauk Point, Long Island -- was described as follows. I will provide only the description of the creature itself, an alien that she encountered inside the base which is said to be maintained by European and American 'Nazis' working under the Bavarian Thule Society. However I will not release any personal details about this woman in honor of her wishes to keep the overall details of the bduction confidential:

"... What I see is a creature about 6-7 ft tall...his ears are large and pointed at the top. His eyes are bright yellow-gold and seem to glow. He has pointy teeth and a large wrinkle on his forehead and he has a TAIL! He's coming towards me...I have never been so scared in my life. He comes to the foot of the table. He pulls off my shorts and bathing suit bottom...he pushes my legs open and pulls me down towards him. His face is so close to mine...I want to scream, but it's only in my head. I hear a raspy sound coming from him. He puts something inside me and I feel like I'm being ripped apart. He likes to see how terrified I am... it gives him a lot of  pleasure. It hurts so much...I have to get away in my head to someplace afe... I go..."

More details on the 'Montauk' reptilian:

"Frame: very tall...closer to 7' than 6'... well-proportioned...except shoulders were very broad in comparison to waist...well-muscled torso and legs...I see some kind of appendage that reminds me of 'wings' protruding from behind the shoulders...there is what seems to be a 'tail' extending from the back...the diameter of the tail would approximate 3"-5"...I do not see his feet...and cannot recall a penis...I have a feeling that my mind is ot allowing me to see this because of the trauma associated with it.

"Skin/Textures: the color of the skin is a gray-green...dark...somewhat 'oily' but with the feeling of 'scales'....the odor he emits is putrid...he is not wearing any clothing, but there is something on his chest that  reminds me of 'armor' but it seems to be a natural protection and not a material addition.

Face and Head: the size of the head is in proportion to the body...there is no hair...there is a large ridge or flap of skin on the forehead just above the eyes, extending across the brow...the eyes are yellow-gold and 'glow'...slightly almond-shaped with the pupils vertical slits...the nose and mouth protrude slightly giving the appearance of "snout-like"...the teeth are pointy...the ears are over-sized in proportion to the head and the tips extend above the head and come to a point."



From: Todd Jumper, co-founder of Eaglenet

~ It was the Thanksgiving of 1992, my grandmother and uncle had come up for Thanksgiving dinner and to spend the day with us. During the day my grandmother started talking to me about aliens for some reason and I started telling her of the things I had seen when I was little.

~ Then that night I remember being awaken by a noise, I first noticed that my computer monitor was reflecting a bright green light and then my whole room was filled with a bright green light. My first thought was, 'Oh no, they're back!' Then I again was paralyzed as it had happened to me when I was twelve. I was looking out my bedroom window and I stared face to face with a gray alien. There were two more behind him. I tried to yell but again my jaw was tight and my tongue was stiff. It just looked at me with those scary big black eyes liked it looked into my soul, I felt evil and fear, I am surprised I did not release my bowels! Then the light consumed me and I was drawn out of my bed into the light. While this was happening I was praying in my head and all of a sudden I was walking down the street in front of my house with an angel.

~ This angel was a magnificent looking man. He was about seven feet tall and the bright white light around him was as pure as freshly fallen snow and it radiated about the entire front yard like a morning sunrise. His face was gentle and happy and his eyes looked at me lovingly. His whole countenance was just amazing beyond description.

~ He placed his hand upon my shoulder and pointed toward the house. I looked over to my bedroom window and saw the three beings still at my window hovering above the ground in a bright green beam of light which seemed to be coming from nowhere. The angel stayed by my side and protected me. I tried to cast the small gray aliens away with my priesthood but they were still there. I was so angry, the things that had made my life miserable since I was a child now there within my view, and I saw how weak they were, how small. And I thought 'These beings so small, yet their power is enough to stop me in my tracks.'

~ But this time I was free, this time I could harm them and I did. I ran to one and grabbed it by the neck and started to strangle it. I could feel its spine coming through the back of its neck as it let out a horrible screeching noise.

~ They were not very tall, only about four feet high- but they hovered in this light up to my height until they were next to my face. Their skin was like a reptile's- cold and leathery. Their damn eyes got to me the most- big black liquid eyes- just twos holes for a nose and barely a mouth- just a slit. Their bodies were not very proportional as ours are. Their arms hung down a little past their knees, and their heads seemed to large for their neck to support it.

~ The angel just stood by as I went into a rampage and killed all three of them. They were so fragile. The angel smiled as if I had done the right thing. And we then proceeded to lay the dead bodies on the lawn. I watched the green light fade away and saw no light except the brilliant radiance of the angel's. The angel knelt down at the bodies which seemed to be changing from gray into a sick yellowish color. I watched as the angel opened his robes and unsheathed a golden sword and began to cut away the tops of the beings heads and their brains came out in an upper and lower section.

~ The angel arose and spoke 'Behold, they are nothing to us. They are nothing but creatures of evil.' Then a blue light or conduit from the sky actually transported them into small balls of light and took them away. So I have no evidence that I actually killed them. We, the angel and I then entered the house, and in the kitchen were three more aliens. One came up to me with a long shiny metal rod that seemed to have a laser beam coming out it. The alien stuck it in the left side of my neck and it stung really bad and then I could not move, so the angel touched me and I could move again. I then immediately punched the alien square in the face breaking its neck and killing it instantly. The other two stood by looking at their fallen comrade -- their moves were very quick and their heads rotated almost as fast as a lizard. The angel held up his arms and spoke In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to depart. Then both the creatures immediately fell to the floor and these gray aliens were again taken up into a beam of light in the same manner as before.

~ Then the angel covered my eyes and then uncovered my eyes. I was all of a sudden on top of a large mountain looking down over a large valley filled with aliens and strange looking humans and their spacecraft. Then I saw hundreds of people dressed in white walking on the mountain with us as if they had come to watch. And then a voice from heaven said 'Behold, these evil ones have perverted the ways of the Lord and deceived many and fornicated with my children. They shall have no place in my kingdom nor in this world to come.' Then a fire came down from the sky and consumed all the beings and all the strange humans and all the UFOs and nothing was left. The angel then spoke saying I had seen enough and he again placed his hand over my eyes. I awoke from my bed and it was morning.

[Note: Some have suggested that the "mind control" and "paralysis" induced by the Greys is equivolent to psychic attack, voodoo, black witchcraft, or sorcery, and that these reptilians have a symbiotic relationship with astral parasites who empower the reptilian sorcerers with dark supernatural powers, thus explaining why many "abductions" seem to possess both material and paraphysical aspects. However, through Divine Intervention this symbiotic connection between reptilian HOST and astral PARASITE can be broken, thus rendering the "alien" essentially powerless and/or disoriented and vulnerable due to its UTTER dependence on the motivating astral entity and the astral "collective". So, as Paul Bennewitz, when refering to "the alien" -- Bennewitz simply called it "the alien" due to its group-mind or hive-like nature... a massive entity with countless interconnected "alien cells" -- stated that psychic warfare resulting from the interaction of physical host and paraphysical parasite is not only the greatest WEAPON, BUT ALSO the greatest WEAKNESS, of "the alien". - Branton]



From: Bruce Fleming

Subject: [TheEagle-L] Re: Denver Airport occult murals, etc.

Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 00:40:15 +0800

This particular mural (of bigger size than the ones in alan's url) which one can see at the Denver Airport was the first one I saw and it was very horrible. A huge character, described as a 'green Darth Vader' by Alex Christopher, stands over a destroyed city with a sword in his hand and women are walking along a road holding dead babies (incidentally, this description is left out in the site AlandeWalton given). If you will zoom in his face. The character appears to be wearing gas mask which implies biological weapons are used, perhaps one that can make the victims sterile (as its side effect). Many people who went to the airport are perplexed what those images have got to do with the airport. Icke has comments on this experience of his.

"One of Alex Christopher's specialities is the new Denver Airport which is reputed to be a cover for a deep underground reptilian-human base. It is certainly a strange place. The first time I spoke on these conspiracy subjects in the United States was in Denver in August 1996, and I'd landed at Denver Airport with no idea of its background. Even so, as soon as the plane landed I'd felt a very strange energy, very weird arid unpleasant. The airport was built at enormous cost on open land a long way from Denver and it is full of Masonic symbols. There are also gargoyles, the winged reptile figures that you find on the stately homes of the reptilian aristocracy in Britain and on the churches amid great cathedrals of Europe which were built by the Brotherhood network. There are also gargoyles on a building in Dealey Plaza where President Kennedy was assassinated and now they turn up again, in a modern airport built on an alleged underground, reptilian base. Gargoyles are symbols of the reptilians and that is why you will find them at Denver Airport. The capstone or dedication stone at the airport is marked with the classic compass symbol of the Freemasons and it stands in part of the terminal called The Great Hall, another Freemasonic term. On a wall is a grotesque mural full of malevolent symbolism, including three caskets with dead females in them: a Jewish girl, a Native American and a black woman; Another girl is holding a Mayan tablet that tells of the destruction of civilisation. A huge character, described as a 'green Darth Vader' by Alex Christopher, stands over a destroyed city with a sword in his hand and women are walking along a road holding dead babies. All the children of the world are depicted taking weapons from each country and handing them to a figure of a German boy with an iron fist and an anvil in his hand. Denver is apparently scheduled to be the headquarters of the Western sector of the United States under the fascist global state called the New World Order which is planned beyond the year 2000. Atlanta is said to be the centre for the Eastern sector and I remember thinking some years ago how the design of Denver and Atlanta airports were so similar - now I know why.

Colorado is a major centre for the New World Order and the Queen of England, under another name, has been buying upland there. As you will see later, the British Royal Family are massively involved in this story and so is the murder of Diana, Princess of Wales.

end Icke quote


[Note: I recall reading a post some time ago from a person who had a vision of Mammoth Lakes in California exploding suddenly, sending volcanic ash over a HUGE area of the country and turning the sky black. Millions were trying to escape from California before they were buried in Vesuvian fashion, and the skies were full of planes flying refugees out of the area with only the clothes on their back. The vision/dream switched to a large airport near the base of some large mountains, only to show tens of thousands of dispossessed people milling around not knowing what to do. A man with an evil grin looked on and said something like "They don't even know what is in store for them". These people were then herded into underground shuttles to be taken from the airport, but in the vision THEY NEVER WERE RETURNED TO THE SURFACE... the person who had the vision sensed that they were actually shuttled to distant underground bases, possibly under the control of the "New World Order", to be used as a slave labor/work force [they would be expendable, assumed lost in the devastation and chaos] or WORSE! - Branton]


From: Bruce Fleming

Subject: [TheEagle-L] Littleton Massacre & Reptilian/Satanism Connection

Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:41:38 +0800

Icke said that Denver (16 km from Littleton), Colorado is a major satanic centre. If it is true. It may explain a lot about the action of these 2 teenagers who killed 15 students (due to extra malevolent influence). Icke published the book in February, two months before it happened. There may be something to it. Below is the mechanism or rather the connection between reptilian, satanism and blooddrinking/sacrifices, etc. Very interesting.  Show this to your kids or potential satanists who think it is only a fad or game.

Icke wrote:

"The black magic rituals we know as Satanism are the modern expression of the rituals and human sacrifice in ancient Babylon and the Brotherhood infiltrated societies of the Sumerian, Phoenician, Hittite, Egyptian, Canaanite and Akkadian, peoples, among many others across the world. It has been a seamless procession through history of the same rituals to the same deities and this remains of fundamental importance to the initiates of the Brotherhood today.

My use of the term Satanism has nothing to do with the Christian version of Satan. I use it only to describe a system of ritual sacrifice and torture which, staggering as it may seem; to most people, is commonplace all over the world today. Satanism is just another name for the worship of a highly destructive, negative force which has been given endless names over the centuries. Nimrod, Baal, Moloch or Molech, Set, the Devil, Lucifer, there is no end to them. Satanism perverts everything positive in the same way that the Nazis took a positive symbol, the swastika, and turned it around to symbolise the negative. This is why the Satanists invert the pentagram and why they use black to symbolise the darkness, hence their Black Mass. But they also reverse the symbolism of white and that is a powerfully negative colour to them. The Satanic networks, under the names of their various deities, were created by the Babylonian Brotherhood to serve their needs. We have seen that the accounts of the Watchers and their off spring, the Nefilim, include references to their blood drinking activities. The Brotherhood know that blood contains the life-force energy. Drinking menstrual blood has always been a feature of the reptilian bloodlines because they need blood to live in this dimension. It was known as the Star Fire, the female lunar essence. The female menstrual cycle is governed by the cycles of the Moon and the blood contains that energy. Its ingredients are supposed to ensure a long life. In India it was called soma and in Greece it was ambrosia. This was said to be the nectar of the gods and it was the reptilian gods who are genetic blood drinkers. The 'holy grail' chalice or cup is also symbolic of the womb and ~ drinking menstrual blood, as well as being a symbol of the reptilian 'royal' bloodline itself. Menstrual blood was provided for the Elite of the reptilian 'royal' line by virgin priestesses and this is the origin of the term 'Scarlet Woman' or, to the Greeks, 'Sacred Woman'. The Greek word for this, Hierodulai, was eventually translated into English as harlot and into German as 'hores", the origin of whore. The word ritual derives from this practice (ritu = redness) and so do the words rite and red. Menstrual blood is one reason why the colour red is so important to Satanists and it is another reason for the constant use of the colour gold by the 'royal' bloodlines. Gold is called the metal of the gods, but to the Anunnaki of the Sumerian Tablets, menstrual blood was the 'gold of the gods'.

The reptilians and their crossbreeds drink blood because they are drinking the person's life-force and because they need it to exist in this dimension. They will often shape-shift into reptilians when drinking human blood and eating human flesh, I am told by those who have seen this happen. Blood drinking is in their genes and an Elite high priestess or 'Mother Goddess' in the hierarchy, who performed rituals for the Brotherhood at the highest level, told, me that without human blood the reptilians cannot survive in this dimension. Her name is Arizona Wilder, formerly Jennifer Ann Green. Interestingly, she said that the reptilians had been pursuing the Aryan peoples around the universe, because the blood of the white race was particularly important to them for some reason and the blondhaired, blue-eyed genetic stream was the one they wanted more than any other. They had followed the white race to Mars, she said, and then came to Earth with them. It is far from impossible that the reptilian arrival on this planet in numbers was far more recent than even many researchers imagine. An interbreeding programme only a few thousand years ago between the reptilian Anunnaki and white Martian bloodlines already interbred with the reptilians on Mars, would have produced a very high reptilian genetic content. This is vital for the reasons I have explained earlier. They appear to need a particular ratio of reptilian genes before they can shape-shift in the way that they do. But when the interbreeding happened is far less important than the fact that it did happen.

Satanism is based on the manipulation of energy and consciousness. These deeply sick rituals create an energy field, a vibrational frequency, which connects the consciousness of the participants to the reptilians and other consciousness of, the lower fourth dimension. This is the dimensional field, also known as the lower astral to many people, which resonates to the frequency of low vibrational emotions like fear, guilt, hate and so on. When a ritual focuses these emotions, as Satanism does, a powerful connection is made with the lower fourth dimension, the reptilians; These are some of the 'demons' which these rituals have been designed to summon since this whole sad story began thousands of years ago. This is when so much possession takes place and the reptilians take over the initiate's physical body. The leading Satanists are full-blood reptilians cloaked in human form. These rituals invariably take place on vortex points and so the terror, horror, and hatred, created by them enters the global energy grid, and affects the Earth's magnetic field. Thought forms of that scale of malevolence hold down the vibrational frequency and affect human thought and emotion. Go to a place where Satanic rituals take place and feel the malevolence and fear in the atmosphere. What we call 'atmosphere' is the vibrational field and how it has been affected by human thought forms. Thus we talk about a happy, light or loving atmosphere, or a dark or foreboding one. The closer the Earth's field is vibrationally to the lower fourth dimension, the more power the reptilians have over this world,and its inhabitants. Satanism is not just a sickness and a perversion, although, it is that also, its main reason for existence, from the Brotherhood's point of view, is to control the Earth's magnetic field; to worship and connect with their reptile masters; to drink the lifeforce of their sacrificed victims; and to provide energy for the reptilians who appear to feed off human emotion, especially fear. These sacrifices are, literally, s acrifices to the 'gods', the reptilians, and they have been happening for thousands of years. The mass sacrifice of people by the Aztecs in Central America, and so many others, were to provide food for, the physical reptilians and crossbreeds who eat the bodies and drink the blood, and energy nourishment, for the non-physical reptilians of the lower fourth dimension. Phil Schneider, a builder of US underground bases, told the writer and researcher, Alex Christopher, that when children reached the point where they could not work anymore in the slave conditions underground, they were consumed by the reptilians. They prefer young children because they are not contaminated like adults. Hard to accept isn't it? I'm sure your mind is screaming 'nonsense' at you because who wants to face a truth like this? But unless we do, how is it ever going to be stopped?

Satanic rituals generally take place at night because that is when the magnetic field is most stable. During, the day the electrically charged particles of the solar wind cause turbulence in the field and make interdimensional connection more difficult. It is most stable during total eclipses and this is when native peoples held their most important ceremonies to contact and manifest other-dimensional entities. The tribal shamans know this. Satanic rituals and human sacrifice, especially of children, are performed on a vast scale and involve some of the most famous politicians, business people, media owners and entertainers on the planet.

Of course they do. It would be amazing if they did not, given the background. These rituals and human sacrifice have always been the foundation of the Brotherhood 'religion' since ancient times. And the Brotherhood manipulates its Satanic initiates and 'gofers' into the positions of political, economic, business, military, medical and media power, and into influential positions in the world of entertainment.

Therefore the ratio of Satanists and child sacrifices at the top of these professions and institutions is staggeringly high compared with the general population. Apparently, according to former Satanists I have met and read about, some world politicians are addicted to blood taken from a victim at the moment of sacrifice because of the adrenaline which is produced at that time. I am told this addiction is quite common among Satanists, and researchers into the reptilian question suggest that this is the substance the reptiles also want. It all fits."

(Note: Below is the reference to Denver, Colorado being a major satanic centre. I checked with Encarta World Atlas and Littleton is only 16 km from Denver)

"Low income parents, and those addicted to drugs, are at the mercy of the Freemasons and Satanists operating among the social services hierarchy and judges. Their children are often taken away from them for Satanic ritual or mind control projects. So called 'crack' babies are apparently sought after for mind control operations, as are twins. I know of twins who were crack babies in Denver, Colorado, a major Satanic centre. They were first taken from their parents and given to foster parents. Later they were taken from the foster parents by Denver SOCIAL SERVICES after the husband was murdered in very strange circumstances and they were given to a single woman who had turned up out of nowhere after the murder and offered to be a nanny to the children. The Satanic ring centred in Denver connects into Boulder, Colorado and this was where the child beauty queen, JonBenet Ramsey, was found murdered in her parents home in very mysterious and unexplained circumstances in December 1996 . The American coroner and investigator, Dr Cyril Wecht, says that the evidence Proves that her death happened during sexual abuse by her parent, John and Patsy Ramsey. JonBenet was murdered on Christmas Eve and Josef Mengele created a sacrificial ritual for this date called "The Last Bulb of the Christmas Tree". Mengele's pseudonym, Greenbaum, means green tree and relates to the Cabalistic Tree of Life. A Brotherhood term for the devil is JonBet and the coincidence is so amazing that, given the other circumstances, I cannot believe this was not the true inspiration for her name.

A research project into ritual abuse at the University of Colorado at Boulder found that all of those questioned had been subjected to intercourse or molestation; 97% saw or took part in animal sacrifice; 97%, forced to take part in sex with adults ; 97% experienced torture; 94% were sodomised; 88% were forced to watch or take part in human sacrifice; 88% in cannibalism.

Also, as many of the victims have said, they themselves are drugged and programmed to take part in the ritual murder and torture of other children. This is videoed and played back to them when they are in a conscious state. They are so horrified at what they have done and so terrified of the consequences that they dare not speak to the authorities. Other techniques to prevent exposure include abusing children while wearing a Mickey Mouse face or a Devil's head. When little children say they were abused by Mickey Mouse or the Devil it makes them even less likely to be believed. One woman who contacted me said that her father sexually abused her while wearing a Devil's head and it was a long time before she realised that her father was responsible. The stories of the people I have talked to, and the accounts of others I have read, tell of events that are beyond comprehension or, at least, they would be if they were not actually happening. Drinking blood, eating the flesh of dead bodies, thousands of adults and children buried in deep graves, the murder of people on camera for the so-called 'snuff' videos, the story is just appalling. One mother told a television documentary in the Dispatches series on Channel Four in the UK, of how she was forced to place her new-born baby on a Satanic altar and push a knife through its heart. A Satanist then had sex with the dead body. This is happening in your country NOW!"


(Note: Hmm... isn't it that below Denver International Airport is home to the... you know what. But I don't wanna think of this right now. - Bruce)


From: Bruce Fleming

Belgium (NATO): Home of Satanism/Reptilians?

Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:45:41 +0800

Is Belgium (headquarters of NATO) also the headquarters of Satanism? Can someone check?? If what Icke said is true that Satanism is the ruling hierarchy of the Brotherhood pyramid under the command of the reptilians and Belgium is the headquarters of Satanism. It is very serious. It means NATO may be controlled by malevolent forces as army of world domination (is this assault on Yugoslavia a celebration to mark its 50 year old anniversary??) To Russia, the Arabs, China, Asia. This has to be scrutinized fully. You must as caution build an equally great air, ground and sea assault force to oppose a NATO supremacy and slow assimilation of your culture into the NWO [& reptilian?] collective. (Before continuing. Read the message "Littleton Massacre and Reptilian/Satanism Connection" for an explanation of the possible Satanism, Reptilian connection (and the mechanism involving blooddrinking, sacrifices to feed the dark gods in the 4th dimension).

The following for scrutiny. Icke wrote:

" The reason that Belgium is a headquarters for Satanism and so many Brotherhood institutions is very simple. The Brotherhood created Belgium for just this reason in 1831 and they imposed upon it a reptilian 'royal' line, the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, the bloodline of the British royal family and, through its branch in Prussia, the supporters of Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Bavarian Illuminati.

The paedophile murder ring which came to light in Belgium in 1996 is but one part of the Satanic network operating from and in that country. It was organised by Marc Dutroux, who is connected to the Satanic Order, of Abrasax, based in the village of Forchies-la-Marche near Charleroi in southern Belgium not far from the Castle of Darkness. Abrasax is Abraxas, a fat-bellied demon from whom, it is likely, the magicians term, abracadabra, originated. Dutroux buried alive an accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, and a mong Weinstein's effects was a letter from the Abrasax group signed by someone describing himself as the Egyptian god, Anubis. It ordered him to provide 'presents' for the High Priestess of the Order and apparently gave specific details of, the age and sex the victims must be. The British Sunday Times reported the accounts of witnesses describing, Black Masses in which children were killed in front of audiences which included, prominent members of Belgian society ." A Belgian newspaper reported, that a former commissioner of the European Union was among a group of judges, senior politicians, lawyers, and policemen, who attended orgies at a Belgian chateau organised bv Michel Nihoul, one of the accomplishes of Marc Dutroux, the alleged leader of the paedophile ring. One investigator said it was "Like going back to the Middle Ages"." In fact there has not been an old, middle, and modern age with regard to these rituals. It, is a seamless flow over thousands of years under the control of the sarne bloodlines. Human skulls were found at the sacrificial sites identified by witnesses, particularly at the sects headquarters. The Satanic group behind the Belgian murders is said to interconnect with similar rings in Holland, Germany, and America." In truth, it will be part of the global network which operates in all countries. Satanism is run like a transnational corporation.

What is called Satanism is the ruling hierarchy of the Brotherhood pyramid under the command of the reptilians. Like all the other parts of the network, it is strictly compartmentalised, The highest levels of the Satanic network lock into the highest levels of the Brotherhood, but the lower degrees are not allowed to know the true nature of the organisations they are involved in. Some of the levels of Satanism are known as the Sisters of Light, the Five Star Generals, Master Counsellors, Keeper of the Books, Keeper of the Seals, and there is one position called an Asmodeus." One of the global centres of Satanism is the Castle of Darkness, the Chateau des Amerois or Castle of Kings in Belgium, near the appropriately named village of Muno Bel. The castle is close to the French border and some 20 kilometres from Luxemburg. It is protected from view by thick forests and guards keep out the curious. In the grounds is a cathedral with a dome containing 1,000 lights. When President George Bush talked of 1,000 p oints of light, he was speaking in code about this place of initiation for the highest initiates of the Satanic pyramid. In this Satanic cathedral is the throne of the high priestess of the upper hierarchy, a position known as the Queen Mother."

Every day, apparently, a child is sacrificed in the basement." Ceremonies are performed here to the Satanic 'goddess' known as Lilith, a demon in the Hebrew Cabala. In ancient Sumer the reptilian bloodline, as passed on through the female, was symbolised as lily and the main reptilian gene carriers were given names like Lilith, Lill, Lilutu and Lillette. Another demon used by some 'Mothers' is called Bilair, Bilar, and Bilid, cabalistic names for the force others call Satan, etc." It is from these lands in Belgium and northern France that the bloodline families came, including the Bruces, to take over Scotland all those centuries ago. Belgium, this little country between France and the Netherlands, is also the home of the European Union, NATO, and, I am told, a massive computer centre where databases on all the people of the world are being compiled. It is known apparently as 'the Beast' and there are a number of these around the world. An Elite mind control operation called the Janus Group is also based in the NATO headquarters. Nimrod was Eannus, the god with two faces, who was later known to the Romans as Janus.

Black magic rituals are going on all over the world and I have spoken with victims in country after country In England I met a brave woman, then aged 40. The story she told me of her experiences mirrored those of so many others. She was born in Darlington in the 1950s, and soon after she was sold by her Satanic father to two other Satanists. She knew them only as Thomas and Helena. She was brought up in the most horrific circumstances at a children's home in Hull which was run by two child abusers. At night a torchlight was shone into their bedrooms and when it was held on a child for a minute or so, they knew it was their turn to go downstairs and be sexually abused. During holidays back in Darlington, from the age of just seven and eight, she met her father who linked her with the two Satanists, Thomas and Helena. She would be given drugs via orange juice and ice cream and be taken at night in a van to country churches in the Darlington area. The drugs were designed to make her easier to mind control and to prevent her from remembering what she saw. I will explain more about this in the next chapter. However, as is often the case when people enter their 30s and 40s, the victims can begin to have flashbacks of their ordeals. They experience them again like watching a movie screen. It is for this reason that so many are murdered before they reach that age, often for 'snuff' videos, which show in graphic detail a person being murdered. Others are subjected to the snatch back when they are abducted to undergo 'booster' mind-programming to keep the memories secret. Increasing numbers of people who survived their horrendous young lives, are now beginning to remember and they are telling the same basic tale. If you are one of them, please contact me if you have anything to add to what I outline here. An address is at the back of the book. Within days of speaking to me, my informant says she was grabbed off the street and bungled into a van by six Satanists. A syringe was held to her throat and she was warned to stop talking to "That dangerous prat, Icke" and to stop naming names. They threatened her life and those of her children if she continued. She was also told that if she didn't keep quiet, the family dog would be taken and "Posted back to you in pieces". Nice people.

In the ordeals at the country churches which she now remembers, my English informant and other children would be used in Satanic rituals involving sex, torture, and murder. The windows of the church were covered over with black drapes and the inside was laid out according to Satanic law with different colours used for different ceremonies depending on the time of year. Sometimes they would use the churches in secret, but don't underestimate how many people in the 'Christian' clergy are also members of the Satanic network. The Satanists, she remembers, were dressed in robes and a number wore masks, including the face of a goat or Baphomet, the deity the Templars were accused of worshipping. In the UK, as in America, some of the best known names in the country are involved. She remembers vividly (God, the thought of it), being laid on her back on the floor of a church as a screaming boy, no more than six, was being held by the hair above her while a man, who she would later identify as a top politician in Northern Ireland, had anal sex with him. When it was over, a knife was produced to cut the boy's throat and the blood poured over her. "I remember this man's eyes," she told me. "The coldness of his eyes I will never forget." He prefers boys to girls, she said.

On more than one occasion, she says, she was brutally raped by a man who has been a major name in United Kingdom politics for decades. This man, she says, used to hold her naked body to him by using hooks inserted into her flesh at the hip. She was just a little girl when this was happening. She told me that this man was Edward Heath and his name comes up again and again in interviews with victims of Satanic abuse in Britain. Heath was the UK Prime Minister from 1970-74 and the Bilderberg Group member who signed the UK into the European Community, now Union. He has been one of the main architects of Britain's further integration into the United Fascist States of Europe. One of the many unconnected people who have identified Heath as a Satanist was the lady I mentioned early in the book who saw the 'lizard' figure at Burnham Beeches in Buckinghamshire near to the British Prime Minister's official country residence called Chequers. The game of chequers is played on a board of black and white squares - the floor plan of all Freemasonic temples. Burnham Beeches is not that far from High Wycombe and the headquarters of the Hellfire Club of Benjamin Franklin and Sir Francis Dashwood. I'm sure Burnham Beeches would have been one of their haunts, too. This lady was the wife of the Head Keeper at Burnham Beeches and they lived on the land. She had been brought up by a Satanic family in Scotland and had been sexually and ritually abused as a child by the Scottish Brotherhood network. Her husband was also a Satanist which is why he was given the responsibility of looking after Burnham Beeches, an area of ancient groves and forests managed by the authorities in London and including an area called Egypt Wood. Late one night in the early 1970s during Heath's reign as Prime Minister, she was taking her dog for a walk when she saw some lights. Quietly she moved closer to see what was going on. To her horror she saw that it was a Satanic ritual and in the circle was the then Prime Minister, Edward Heath, and his Chancellor of the Exchequer, Anthony Barber. She says that as she watched him, Heath began to transform into a reptile and she said that what surprised her was that no-one in the circle seemed in the least surprised. "He eventually became a full-bodied Reptiloid, growing in size by some two foot." She said he was "slightly scaly" and "spoke fairly naturally, although it sounded like 'long distance' - if you, can imagine the short , time' lapses". I remember well meeting Heath on a television election programme in 1989 while I was a spokesman for the British Green Party and I have never seen such cold and unpleasant eyes in my life. I knew nothing of these subjects then, but the look of his eyes I have never forgotten.

At outdoor rituals, Arizona says she wore axed robe and stands in the centre of a pentagram which is surrounded by a hexagram or Star of David. She was triggered into her 'Isis' program and conducted the Drawing Down of the Moon ceremony which, she says, made four snarling hideous creatures materialise in the Satanists' circle. The sacrificial victims, who have been bred from birth for the role, are ritually killed by slashing the throat from left to right. This is the origin of the Freemasonic sign of pulling the flat hand across the throat from left to right, a movement which means "You're dead". The blood from the victims is collected and mixed with arsenic, which appears to be a necessary element for those of the human-reptilian bloodlines. This is poured into goblets and consumed by the Satanists, together with the liver and eyes. This is supposed to provide strength and greater psychic vision. Fat is scraped from the intestines and smeared over the bodies of the participants - like the fat of the 'messeh' in ancient Egypt The corpse is then suspended from a tree and the Satanists stand naked to allow the dripping blood to fall on them. The Mother Goddess says that by this time the participants are in such a high state of excitement that they often shape-shift into reptilians and mostly manifest, she says, in a sort of off-white colour. They are also terrified, because at this point the Mother Goddess points to four of them and they are then ritually murdered. Clare Reeves, the President of Mothers Against Sexual Abuse in the US, told me that AT LEAST 12 ritually abused clients had reported that the participants shape-shifted into reptilians.




In reference to Case File #26, "J" made the following comments:

...Regarding the first story on that link which Michael Lindemann was relating, I know that woman personally. Her name is "D". There is MUCH MUCH MORE TO HER STORY THAN GOOD OLD MICHAEL HINTED AT. That was in the period before Michael was "turned" by the security services. Truth to tell, much of the info he had obtained from Bill Hamilton and some of the un-named persons heavily involved in the investigations of the underground facilities in the Antelope Valley...

You can literally feel the negative energy there in the Antelope Valley and further east near Ridgecrest where "D" used to live. China Lake is near Ridgcrest and that place is positively evil.

What Lindemann didn't tell you about "D" was that her family bloodline was followed by the military. They told her that prior to the development of verbal communication, humans communicated by telepathy which was possibly because of a particular hormone secreted in the brain (A good bet that reptilian geneticist bred this capability right out of most humans). The gland that secretes this hormone has atrophied in most families except for "D's"!

So the Navy would kidnap her while she was still a young girl and take her to the underground facility at China Lake and put her through Trauma Based Programming. Then the next week, the Air Force would kidnap her and take her to the underground facility beneath George Air Force Base in Victorville California in the high desert. She said it was a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing. Or at least that was the impression they were trying to give her.

(Incidentally, the NEW Federal Concentration Camp, excuse me Detention Facility has been permanently moved to a location adjacent to George Air Force Base along the old Air Base Road. It has recently been moved from its temporary location near Bishop along highway 395. Friends of mine have driven by it and it's operational. They say it looks for all the world like a Concentration Camp complete with barbed wire and guard towers. And there IS a Russian/U.N. Presence in that region)

"D" has been used by the military for remote viewing operations. She is the real thing. I introduced her to another former military remote viewer I know and they compared notes on an underground facility where friends of mine have been taken to. Without knowing anything about what these abductees described down there, both "D" and the other viewer described numerous details of the underground facility. I know what the command and control center looks like. There were military personnel, reptilians and military/reptilian shapeshifters down there.

Years ago, "D" was taken underground beneath China Lake and shown the genetics lab and holding facility for all the genetically engineered mutants. She described ghastly creatures of every size and shape. There were also captive humans down there. She was taken down there to intimidate her and show her what would happen if she didn't cooperate.

Her own son was murdered by a local "law enforcement officer", the details and investigation covered up.

I lost track of her. The last I heard she moved out of the high desert. I would love to meet this gal again...

Yes, "D" was the one who witnessed the reptilian slashing open the chest of the gray. She was then laid on a table and sexually assaulted by the reptilian. She hates that particular species of reptilians. They have materialized inside of her car while she was driving! (the "intermediate" height of some of these reps are 4-41/2 feet. She's also the one who saw the rep playing around with her jewelry box.)

Lindemann says there was an argument between the gray crew leader and the reps but my info was that when the reptilian walked onto the ramp into the ship all of the grays became extremely frightened and seemed to "stand at attention." I think she likened it to "the admiral" coming onboard, such was the fear that was elicited amongst the grays by this reptilian. ("Admiral on the deck!")

On another occasion she was taken to a reptilian underground base (that SAME species again) beneath Death Valley. She was brought before the "Ancient One" my nickname for the reptilian chieftain that she met. This entity stood taller than the others of its species and actually wore an Egyptian headress with a cobra snake motif on the front! I saw the sketch she drew.Facsinating.

[Note: Could these reptilians have beeen connected to the 'Gizeh', 'Kamagol' or 'Phoenix' Empire which reportedly exists within a massive cavern -- to which the NSA has access -- beneath Egypt, and was reportedly deeply involved with the Bavarian-Nazi cults of WWII? In regards to Death Valley, in past years this {Panamint Mts.} base was {?} according to several contactees, a MAJOR earth-base for "Federation" {Vegan, etc.} personnel & delegates on earth, however IF THIS base had some connection with the neo-Mayan {Ashtarian} city-complex beneath Mt. Shasta, CA., THEN in light of the infiltration of the psionic Ashtar/Astarte collective by agents of the "Draconian Hive", could this area have been compromised? A secret Washington/Telosian {Mt. Shasta} alliance reportedly made a treaty with the Greys/Reptilians before the "aliens" betrayed the treaties and took over several of the "joint operational" bases {Dulce, etc.} & "Melchizedekian" underground colonies during the Dulce/Groom wars of 1997-1985. Could this have provided an open door for these reptilian parasites to enter in and take over this last bastian of Non-Interventionist "Federation" influence under North America? I have to wonder, since Alex Collier and other contactees suggest that the "Federation blockade" of the Sol-ar system has been collapsing, at last report, and that many of the Federation personnel have left the earth to help fight the MAJOR draconian offensives which have been threatening the entire galaxy -- the "war in heaven" of Revelation chapter 12?. We should of course hope for the best, but prepare for the possibility of the worst, i.e. the worst being that we are now "on our own"... GOD help us if we are, and HE WILL help if we believe, since the ONLY abductees who have apparently been able to repel or kill potential reptilian/alien abductors -- at least those that I have heard of -- in spite of vastly superior alien technological and psychological advantages, are Christians who have claimed the SUPERNATURAL POWER and AUTHORITY of the King of Kings, essentially attacking the supernatural "Luciferian Hive" which links the very physical "aliens" together as a collective organizm: "Behold, I GIVE unto you POWER to TREAD ON SERPENTS and scorpions, and over ALL the power of the enemy: and NOTHING shall by any means hurt you." - Luke 10:19. This divine decree should be the calling card for all of those who are willing to take part in the war between the human race and the serpent race, as described in the 3rd chapter of Genesis and the 12th chapter of Revelation. - Branton]

It proceeded to transmit into "D's" mind the "official" version of its species history here on Earth, i.e. how they survived the cataclysm of the dinosaurs by living underground, became intelligent, were alternately worshipped by humans as gods and reviled by humans as monsters etc etc etc.

During her visit she saw a clutch of reptilian eggs. She said she wanted to take an axe to them! (IHOP eat your heart out. I don't think any amount of syrup will make that omelette taste any good)... "J"



From: "anunnaki" {anunnaki@p...} To: "unexplained3"

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998

Subject: [MOTU] missing car


Here is a good one for you. This is a true story.

I might have told it before ,but felt I should again.

Around 1988 I had to make several trips to Pittsburgh weekly for business reasons. The road I travel was RT. 8 this road has 4-5 lanes form a town called Butler to Pittsburgh itself.

One a certain Sunday I was traveling this road by myself. It was early in the morning and I was quite tired. This road had many stop signal followed by brief areas of no turn offs.

On this certain morning I pulled up to a red light and was waiting for the light to change. As I did I saw a black limo pull up directly beside me. As I looked over at the limo I noticed that the back window started to come down. I then saw two figures in the back seat. I then notice that the limo started to pull forward although the light hadn't changed. I then saw one of the figures come closer to the back window that was down. As he did I notice that his skin was very pale in color and had a GREEN cast. He also was wearing a black hat, suit and sun glasses. He then took off his glasses and I saw the most strangest eyes I have ever seen. THEY LOOKED LIKE A REPTILE. He then motioned for me to follow him. I was totally freaked out.

I didn't know what to do. I then turned my head toward the traffic light hoping it would change. Well sure enough it did and I made a bee line to go as fast as I could to get away from this limo. As I was heading forward I looked in the rear view mirror and saw the limo coming up closer and closer towards me.

I then started to go so fast I was afraid. I then looked in the rear view mirror again to see if the limo was still following me and to my surprise the limo had disappeared. There were no turn off inbetween the light that I stopped at and the next one, so there couldn't have been any place for the limo to pull over. To this day I don't know where the limo went, but oh do I still remember those EYES.

My Name Is Star-Fire From Nibiru12





Date: Mon Dec 16, 2002


From the Dulce Book


The following is a list of questions that were directed to former Dulce Base Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello approximately a year before his death [or disappearance]. They are followed by his responses:

QUESTION - When exactly was the [upper human-occupied level of the] Archuleta installation constructed?

ANSWER - I heard Dulce was started in 1937-38 by the Army engineers, enlarged over the years, most recent work was completed 1965-66 to connect tunnels to the Page [Arizona] Base, site of one of the older underground facilities. The four corners base is called PERICA. Most of the Native Americans [the Indians] living in that area are aware of that base, and could tell us about the underground life forms that frequently are spotted near those communities, Bigfoot, etc. (Note: The references to the Dulce base here deal mainly with the upper levels, not the extreme lower levels which include vast natural caverns and, some believe, very ancient tunnel systems as well. This would include the tunnels illuminated by phosphorus pentoxide which the alien grays avoid, and the origin of which is unknown. In fact sources have informed us that some of the underground NORAD facilities of Colorado were constructed within already-existing cavern systems, suggesting that Ray Palmer and Richard Shaver were correct when as early as the mid-1940's they wrote about the government's search for ancient underground cave and tunnel systems to be converted for their own use. - Branton)

Q -- By what means was the [upper] installations constructed? Are you familiar with the alleged developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly-efficient bore or mole machine capable of melting rock using nuclear powered wolfram-graphite tipped 'drill-cones'?

A -- According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was blasted by nuclear devices in the sixties. There are sections, like the shuttle tunnels, that were formed by an advanced tunneling machine that leaves the tunnel walls smooth. The finished walls in those tubes resemble polished black glass.

Q -- By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?

A -- Nature started the caverns. The Draco [reptilian humanoids] used the caverns and tunnels for centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it was enlarged repeatedly. The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur springs that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. The Dulce caverns rival Carlsbad caverns in size. (Note: Carlsbad caverns and especially the adjacent Lecheguilla caves are 'officially' among the largest and deepest in the world, with several 'leads' that remain to be explored by professional speleonauts - Branton)

Q -- What exactly are the cattle [and human] organs such as blood, anal tissue, eyes, reproductive organs, tongues, etc. used for -- i.e. the organs obtained via cattle and human mutilations?

A -- Read the so-called Dulce papers [for more information].

Q -- Are the various electromagnetically-controlled air or space craft -- [that have been seen] leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta -- manned by humans, the 'alien entities', or both?

A -- Archuleta Mesa is a minor area... the craft leave [and are stored] in five areas. One is SE of DULCE, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M., and the main fleet is stored at LOS ALAMOS [under]. (Note: I believe Thomas Castello is referring to the 'joint-operational' fleet. From combined sources however it appears as if Dulce is absolutely SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES by 'alien' bases, and that Archuleta peak -- although apparently the central NEXUS of the entire underground network -- is nevertheless just one part of an overall complex that some claim is nearly the size of Manhattan! One source has indicated that there are chambers a few hundred feet below the very town of Dulce itself that are part of level one of the facility. This close proximity may explain why it has usually been described as the 'Dulce Base'. Apparently even with his high-security clearance, Thomas Castello was only familiar with one part of the overall mega-complex which underlies the area. Whatever amount of activity is taking place there, different sources seem to indicate that the town of Dulce nevertheless lies over a major crossroads, convergence or 'intersection' area of alien activity even though the 'core' of alien activity has been extended to Los Alamos. Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in and around the Santa Fe National Forest seem to be the MAJOR 'nest' of Reptiloid/Gray forces in North America, although there is also a large number of 'dens' scattered throughout the underground networks between Dulce and Area 51. Dulce seems to be a major 'through' point for exterran and subterran reptilian activity, a central 'infiltration' zone for surface operatives, as well as an operational base for abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals, UFO ports, and so on. - Branton)

Q -- Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not of 'extraterrestrial' ORIGIN, and that they are actually descended from saurian or reptiloid beings such as the Velociraptors or Stenonychosaurus Equallus --a 'serpentine' race or races similar to that hinted at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis?

A -- Yes, some 'reptoids' are native to this planet. The ruling caste of 'aliens' ARE reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The Draco. Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the Draconian beings that 'tempted' Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids rightly consider themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are [considered] the 'squatters' on Earth.

Q -- Some have suggested that the so-called underground 'E.T.' bases and tunnels may, for a large part, be literally thousands of years old...constructions of an antediluvian race which attained to a considerable level of scientific complexity, and who were destroyed by a Divinely-initiated cataclysm which took place after they attempted to merge their science with occult/supernatural forces. For instance some have suggested that the Bermuda Triangle phenomena may be the result of an out-of-control Atlantean experiment that led to a space-time disaster which produced "electromagnetic fallout" in the Triangle area and elsewhere after they had accidentally loosed powerful forces and energies into the world that they knew very little about. Do your observations tend to confirm or refute such a possibility?

A -- I'm not sure about the Divine part, but these 'aliens' consider themselves 'NATIVE TERRANS.'

A -- Where do the little gray Aliens fit in?

Q -- They work for, and are controlled by the Draco. There are other gray skinned beings that are not in league with the Draco.

Q -- Did you ever talk to any of the 'Aliens' at the Base?

A -- Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that involved security or video camera's, I was the one they called. It was the reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the lower levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white Draco. When human workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian 'boss', and the Draco called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending problem. Several human workers resented the "no nonsense" or "get back to work" attitude the working caste lives by. When needed, intervention became a vital tool. The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered around near the "OFF LIMITS" areas of the "Alien Section." I guess it's human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past the barriers. Too often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed around. The camera's near the entrance usually stopped them before they got themselves in serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the return of a human worker.

Q -- Are there other sites tied-in to the 'shuttle network' other than those which you mentioned, and if so, where are the entrances?

A -- WHERE!?! EVERYWHERE! THEY CRISS CROSS THE WORLD AS AN ENDLESS SUBTERRANEAN HIGHWAY. LIKE A FREEWAY, EXCEPT THIS ONE IS UNDERGROUND... The subterranean highway in America is like a freeway except it's underground. That highway depends on electric motors [for trucks, cars and buses] for the paved roads, and it is for limited travel. There is another style of transit for freight and for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide network is called the "Sub-Global System." It has "check points" at each country entry. There ARE shuttle tubes that 'shoot' the trains at incredible speeds using a mag-lev and vacuum method. They travel at a speed that excels the speed of sound. Part of your question involves the location of entrances to that base. The easiest way to answer is to say every state in the U.S.A. has them. Frequently, the entrances are camouflaged as sand quarries, or mining operations. Other complex portals are found on military bases. New Mexico and Arizona have the largest amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state's Florida and North Dakota have the least amount of entrances. Wyoming has a road that opens directly into the subterranean freeway. That road is no longer in use, but could be reactivated if they decide to do so, with minimal cost. It's located near Brooks Lake.

Q -- Are there any 'bases' in the state of Utah? (Note: Thomas mentioned several areas surrounding Utah -- Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and Idaho, where there are 'connections', but little on Utah which according to some sources lies directly over one of the largest NATURAL cavern systems in North America, one that is said to reach deep beneath the Western Rockies as well as beneath the Bonneville basin) Have you heard anything about an alleged underground installation within the Wasatch Mountains...?

A -- Salt Lake, Lake Powell Area, Dark Canyon, Dougway Grounds, Modena, Vernal.All have exits there. Others too.

(Note: There have been many rumors of ancient 'tunnel' systems being intersected during the excavations of sub-basement levels below major industrial and mall areas in downtown Salt Lake City. Various stories surrounding these tunnels include: explorers who have entered the tunnels and never returned; reports of 'lizard people' down in the labyrinths; reports of grays working with humans on electronic equipment and massive building projects going on in huge caverns beneath the mountains to the east; reports of humans who are part of an Asian-based 'Agharti' kingdom who maintain colonies within the tunnels and caverns below -- and who are in conflict with the reptiloids, grays, and a group collaborating human fascists from a network of massive underground facilities beneath the Neu Shwabenland region of Antarctica; reports of men in suits having been seen pacing back and forth through large underground chambers carrying uzi machine guns; reports of seemingly bottomless shafts; large tunnels strung with lights that are "big enough to drive a semi-truck through"; sections of tunnel walls that looked solid yet which one could put their hands through; rooms which emanate a strange greenish phosphorescent glow; abductees who are taken below and encounter all types of aliens; discs that have been seen emerging from the mountains to the east and attacking incoming UFOs over the valley; Dungeons & Dragons fanatics who have been down in the tunnels and tell wild stories of hundreds of miles of maze-like passages; reports of connections to the tunnel systems via the sewer-drainage network especially underneath the downtown "Crossroads" area; reports of alien activity similar to that which has been described in connection to Dulce New Mexico; and reports of a huge cavern network that reaches beyond the border of the state in all directions -- a huge network that connects the underground systems of Nevada with those of New Mexico. There is a famous story which is not openly talked about -- there are two versions... both may be true. In one version a Mormon Temple worker penetrated an underground tunnel below the 'square' in downtown Salt Lake City and traveled for some distance through a series of underground catacombs until running into a 'lizard' like man. The creature attempted to attack him but the man escaped and managed to find his way back to the surface. He began telling other people what had happened and soon afterwards the 'government' arrived in the area and went in and closed off many of the tunnels leading to the sub-basements of the Temple. Presumably there was some heated debates over how much of the underground system this denomination was allowed to control. A similar dispute apparently occurred to the southwest where the LDS church maintained a large storage facility under Granite Mountain in Little Cottonwood canyon, within the upper levels of a vast network of caverns. Fascist CIA elements and the Grays came in and took control of the larger caverns deeper within the mountain and ordered the 'vault' workers to stay out of the 'forbidden' areas -- and stated that the "U.S. Government" was now using them for "National Security" purposes and that it was their "patriotic duty" to maintain the secret. The other version concerned a custodian who entered a tunnel near the cinemas area below the Crossroads Mall across the street and to the south from the temple square, while excavation was being carried out in a that part of the Mall. The worker entered the tunnel and before long encountered a 'serpent' type man, beat a hasty retreat, and told his fellow workers what he had seen. The FBI and/or the local police soon arrived and sealed the tunnel. Another story involved a young man who, along with a friend, had used a chain tied to his pickup truck to rip-up a manhole cover in the area near the 'Mall' and the 'Square'. They navigated through a maze of sewer passages underneath and came to a shaft that descended in a series of 5 small 'rooms' one below the other, and from the bottom room a tunnel led south into a large chamber wherein they saw a seemingly bottomless shaft, a large southwest tunnel strung with lights and 'large enough to drive a semi through', and the footprints of some type of three-toed bi-pedal creature. Other sources imply that early pioneers and settlers of the area who explored these tunnels came in contact with and in some cases even joined with some of the Telosian-Agharti-Melchizedek-Mayan underground colonies below the Salt Lake Flats, the Salt Lake Valley and the Western Rockies. These subterraneans had formerly established territorial agreements with the Reptiloids and Grays before the aliens begun invading their subterranean lands below the intermountain west en-masse in the early 1900's. The treaties were part of an attempt to stave off a possible inter-species conflict, as skirmishes between the humanoids [Teros] and reptiloids [Deros] within the cavern networks of North America had been increasing since the 1920's, 30's and 40's. Because of a somewhat non-exclusive collective-mind with which these humans interacted, it was decided that one possible way to 'convert' the reptilians into becoming beings of emotion and compassion was to allow them access to the group consciousness. The reptiloids however, once given access, immediately began taking advantage of the collective and used it to CONTROL the humans on a subliminal basis. The ease with which this occurred may have been enhanced by the fact that the Reptiloids and Grays were already operating as part of a collective or group mind, one which was far more complex than the Ashtar or Astarte collective itself which many of the 'Aghartians' depended on. This suggests that the reptilian 'collective' or HIVE itself is absolutely void of any and all care, concern or compassion for human beings. Individual reptiloids operating distinct from the draconian collective might however be 'tamed' by other collective-free humanoids in some cases -- as some have reportedly been 'tamed' by the Andro-Pleiadean worlds. If the non-humans could be severed from the 'collective' they might be deprogrammed and reprogrammed so-to-speak and even attain individual awareness and a degree of emotionalism. In such cases it would not be advisable to give these creatures equal standing among humans, and absolute subservience and monitoring should be enforced even if means were found to sever them from the collective mind network. When dealing with the reptilian forces, unconditional surrender should be first offered, and if this is not accepted than direct military action would be justified especially in light of the many permanent 'abductees' whom the Greys and Reptiloids have taken captive [those who are still alive] to their underground systems. Most of the treaties that the humanoids had made with the reptiloids 'down under' have since been broken... especially following the Groom Wars of 1975 and the Dulce Wars of 1979, during which time much of the underground U.S. base networks [which were funded by American tax dollars by the way] were taken over by the Grays. Some sources have implied that the aliens took advantage of the chaos especially during the Dulce wars and commenced to invade and conquer several of the older underground colonies. This apparently led to a rift in the 'Ashtar' collective, with many humanoids and hybrids splitting off and joining with the Andro-Pleiadean Federation non-interventionists, and many reptiloids and heartless humanoid agents splitting off and joining with the interventionists of the Draco-Orion Empire. The Sirius-B system which -- aside from Arcturus and Sol -- has been the major center of 'Ashtar' activity, has since been shaken by this split between the two opposing Ashtarian factions and war had reportedly raged through the Sirius system for several years, according to some 'contactees'... an apparent reflection of the division within the underground networks of North America between the Pleiadean-backed Sirian humanoids and Orion-backed Sirian reptiloids which both had maintained operations within the underground levels before the "Dulce Wars" broke out. The Dulce wars were just the mere tip of the proverbial iceberg when we consider that the overall events which happened at Dulce had a chain reaction effect throughout this whole sector of not the galaxy. Before the division occurred, the reptiloids were invited to take part in 'peace talks' in Telos and elsewhere as an act of good faith, but the reptiloid-grey collectivists were more interested in expanding their empire and feeding their insatiable appetite for conquest than they were in making peace, although they agreed to peace treaties that they never intended to keep for 'Trojan horse' manipulation purposes. There is a remnant collaboration such as that taking place in the underground facilities near Paradox Nevada where collectivist humanoids and reptiloids from Sirius and Sol still maintain a collaboration of necessity -- in order to establish a global control system, however a large number of humanoids within the underground systems are at war with the collectivist-interventionist Reptilian infiltrators who would otherwise 'assimilate' these humanoids into their collective through deception, espionage and mind control. Now several contactees like Alex Collier, Ray Keller, Stan Johnson and others are claiming that the conflicts in Sirius between the Andro-Pleiadean backed Ashtar forces and the Draco-Orion backed Ashtar forces -- which were infiltrated and commandeered by Draco-Orion agents - - have now spread to the Sol system, as both stellar superpowers have focused on this most strategic system, intent on protecting their respective 'interests' here from being subverted by the other side. - Branton)

Q -- Does the Mt. Archuleta "shuttle system" connect with a shuttle system which allegedly radiates from Mt. Shasta in northern California?

A -- Yes. Mt. Shasta is a major site of Alien - Elder Race - Reptilian Race - Human meetings. Beginning Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S. history have visited Telos City. Truman was supposed to have visited the Lower Realms as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met the King of the World there, and gave him the "Keys to the U.S.A." (Note: Whether or not the reigning 'King' of the Agharti realms at the time had benevolent or other motives, subjecting America to an outside super-power without Congressional consent would be considered high treason. Although unelected/appointed 'individuals' working within the Executive-Military- Industrial branch of 'government' might choose to do so of their own volition without Congressional or Senatorial consent, such an act cannot apply to the 'America' which is based on the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There are apparently two 'nations' occupying the United States, the traditional grass-roots 'America' established by the founding fathers and led by the 'Electorate' government, and the fascist Bavarian-lodge-backed 'underground nation' led by the 'Corporate' government which is contesting the original 'America' on its own soil. Some predict an inevitable civil [?] war between the Electorate/Constitutional/Surface government of the U.S., and the joint humanoid-reptiloid Corporate/National-Global Socialist/Underground New World Order government, which incidentally was bought and paid for by American taxpayers and other unsavory money-making projects. This war will apparently provoke an armed United Nations / New World Order invasion of the U.S.A. which, according to George Washington's famous 'vision' at valley forge in 1777, will ultimately end with an American victory as a result of Divine Intervention. Something like this may be inevitable if FREEDOM is to be preserved on this world, and beyond. We should never forget however that the NWO corporate elite and their draconian masters intend to 'depopulate' the surface of this planet AND the underground systems as well. According to one Navy intelligence source the 33-plus Masons [there are allegedly several degrees above the 33rd degree which interact directly with the draconians and are part of the interplanetary initiatory lodges] intend to set the left-wing caverns and the right-wing caverns against each other in order to depopulate the underground realms so that they can impose absolute Bavarian-Draconian global control of 'both' worlds. The 33+ and higher degrees according to this source intend to ride out the inferno in super-secret fortified caverns while the 33rd and lower degree masons and their respective left-wing and right-wing armies will be left to die in the surface and subsurface wars. It may be that some of the 33+ Masons intend to ride-out the holocaust in their Alternative-3 bases on the Moon and Mars, IF those bases are still active. Remember, the roots of BOTH the 'right-wing' National Socialist AND the 'left-wing' Global socialist agendas trace back to Bavaria. Isn't it interesting that the legendary 'dragon' has TWO 'wings' -- a right wing and a left wing -- both of which are controlled by a single 'beast'?. In essence, when it comes right down to it the war is between the Judeo-Christian based Constitutional Republic of America and the Luciferian-cult-based Socialist empire of Bavaria. Both the right and left wing movements are Machiavellian extremes created by the Bavarian Black Nobility ['Black' here being a reference to something hidden that cannot be seen, and NOT skin color] in order to foment global chaos. There are several claims that the collaboration with the Reptilians began with the Luciferian cults of Bavaria, and was later brought into America via the infiltration of the Scottish Rite and the fascist core of the NSA-CIA. There may have nevertheless been a reptilian presence below North America within the caverns that dates back several centuries, however a MASSIVE reptilian infestation of these underground systems seems to have begun near the beginning of the 20th century. 'Mt. Archuleta' might be considered the 'capital' of the ALIEN segment of the 'secret' [Bavarian-Draconian] New World Order government in America -- with the deep underground systems beneath the Denver International Airport being the 'capital' of the HUMAN segment of the secret government. - Branton). Truman received assurance to new high tech knowledge, and victory over all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to Samaza and Khoach, aliens from Bootes and Tiphon [Draco], both reptilian 'kings' or Embassadors. Truman updated the '100 Treaty' [that began IN 1933, Roosevelt] and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed. He exchanged hostages for genetic experiments and magnetic advance, but vetoed space and beam weaponry.

Q -- Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons, Rosicrucians or Jesuits within the underground installation and/or with the aliens? (This question is based on the assumption made by some researchers that many of the Masonic lodges were, beginning about 1776, infiltrated by the Bavarian Illuminati. Much of the Masonic world is ultimately controlled by the Bavarian-lodge-backed 33+ degrees of Scottish Rite Masonry, a 'Rite' which according to early Masonic authority Rebold can be traced back to the JESUIT college at Clermont in Paris -- a Rite which advocates the destruction of national sovereignties in exchange for world government, the destruction of religious and especially Judeo-Christian movements, and the destruction of the family-structure to be replaced by 'State' control of children, etc., as opposed to the more traditional Protestant-Christianized YORK RITE of Masonry which the SCOTTISH RITE has attempted to subvert since its inception into Masonry. This question was also based on claims from a former 33rd degree Mason, James Shaw, that the Scottish Rite headquarters in the "House of the Temple" -- which lies at the northern apex of the pentagram-like street layout of Washington D.C. -- is filled with all kinds of indications of serpent worship in the form of murals, carvings, statues, etc., depicting serpentine figures. Actually, from what my sources tell me, not only are there degrees beyond the 33rd degree, but the 33rd degree itself is made up of two cores, an inner and outer core, the 33rd degree and the 33+ degree. In the past when the 33rd degree initiation was reached a potential initiate might have been given a Bible or a Cross and asked to spit on it or desacrate it in some manner. If they refused to do this they were told that they had made the "right decision" and remained in the outer core of the 33rd degree, thinking that they had finally 'arrived'. If they did or do commit this form of blasphemy then they are told that they have made the "right decision", and they are sent on to the inner core of the 33+ degree, which is the springboard to the higher levels which interact with the joint humanoid-reptiloid Ashtarian lodges or branches of the 'Serpent Cult' on other planets, within underground cities, and possibly even other dimensions. One source informs me that former president George Herbert Walker Bush -- who was at one time the HEAD of MJ-12 -- had attained to the 42nd degree, however he may have attaned to even higher levels since that time. I would guess that the one who holds the highest level of initiation would be the 'dragon-king' of Draconis himself, or whatever appellation the leader or the leaders of the Draconian Empire may go by. - Branton):

A - Yes I did, but that is a loaded question, and I won't comment further. I'm not a Mason, or member of any other secret fraternal group. There is one organization I am a member of [in the U.S.A.]. That group is commonly called the "Central Unit." It is a pleasure to tell you that I AM a member of the "Sub-Galactic League" of Costa Rica.

Q -- Is there any truth to the allegations that the CIA/'Aliens' have established 'bases' on the moon, and also Mars?

A -- I've HEARD that too, but I haven't seen proof with my own eyes. The 'aliens' do allegedly have bases on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn. The CIA operates in other COUNTRIES, but I've never heard they operate on other PLANETS (Note: Perhaps we should have referred to the CIA's superior agency, the NSA, whose personnel reportedly pilot the "black-budget UFOs" between the LUNA and DREAMLAND bases. - Branton).

Q -- Have you heard any hints or rumors suggesting that there may be lower levels beneath the ULTRA-7 level of the Dulce base, and also, where these might lead to and what they might consist of?

A -- YES. Your guess is as good as mine... Sure, there was lots of TALK but that doesn't mean it's there. However, I will tell you I saw elevators that were "off limits" unless you had an UMBRA or higher security clearance. At that base, information is supplied to me at a "need to know" basis ONLY! [My clearance was ULTRA-7]

Q -- Some insist that the U.S./Secret government has developed it's own disk-craft based largely upon top secret antigravity experiments carried out by the Nazi-German scientists during World War II. Have you heard anything referring to this?

A -- When I was working in Photo-security, heard a lot of talk, never saw the proof, but once in the Air Force I developed a roll of film that showed a craft LIKE ADAMSKI'S, WITH A SWASTIKA ON THE SIDE. (Note: A letter from 'R.J.M.' of Pennsylvania dated 1-31-91 stated: "...I have a lot of UFO videos. I also have 'THE SECRET LAND' [1947]. It shows Bunger's Oasis and says they discovered warm land at the South Pole. One German author claims the Nazi's had a photo-finish FIGHT with Byrd. At the end of the movie, it says: 'Byrd's Intrepid 4,000 met and defeated ANTARCTICA'S TOUGHEST BATTALIONS.' I don't think they were talking about the weather..." Another source has stated that there were loses on BOTH sides, and the Battle for Antarctica against the Nazi's "Last Battalion" -- which had fortified themselves in underground bases below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica -- ended in a stalemate.

Question: Why would Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun commit suicide after Hitler had spent so much energy executing over 5000 Nazi officials whom he 'suspected' were behind his assassination attempt at the 'Wolf' bunker, especially if he had a way out via a secret Nazi South Polar base? The March 18, 1994 issue of THE PLAIN DEALER [Cleveland, Ohio] carried an AP story titled "DOCTORS FIND BURNT BODY COULD NOT BE HITLER'S". Excerpts include: "...French forensic experts say the charred corpse said to be Hitler's is not his body... experts FALSIFIED verification reports ordered by Josef Stalin to APPEASE the Soviet dictator....the body is actually that of an unknown German male. [The forensic experts] spent more than two years   analyzing the autopsy reports prepared by Soviet coroners in the days following [the] surrender of the Third Reich in 1945...the body [said to be Hitler's] had an extra tooth and only one testicle... no German doctor who had examined Hitler before his death ever mentioned either anomaly." This is also interesting when we consider that the well-known 'abductee', Barney Hill, remembered the following experience under regressive hypnosis as recorded in the paranormal encyclopedia, "MYSTERIES OF MIND, SPACE & TIME". Barney and his wife Betty were abducted by gray-skinned humanoids "from Zeta Reticuli". HOWEVER, one of the 'beings' on the craft was described by Barney Hill under regressive hypnosis in the following words which are taken from p.1379 of the encyclopedia: "...another figure has an EVIL face... HE LOOKS LIKE A GERMAN NAZI. HE'S A NAZI... HIS EYES! HIS EYES. I'VE NEVER SEEN EYES LIKE THAT BEFORE!" Remember that this occurred nearly 15 years after Europe had supposedly been "de-Nazified". There seems to be an Antarctic connection with the Dulce scenario as well as other possible 'Nazi' connections: German 'tourists' scouring New Mexico, exploring mines and caves and buying up land and mineral rights just before the outbreak of WWII; the Nazi-connected CIA's involvement and their placement of several Nazi S.S. agents -- who had been brought into the U.S. via Project Paperclip -- within the Dulce and other underground facilities; the involvement of secret 'Bavarian' lodges at Dulce; and the possible Antarctican-Dulce connection to 'Alternative 003'. Another interesting connection is the fact that the secret Nazi teams involved in the construction and operation of the underground bases below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland and elsewhere in Antarctica were called ULTRA teams. ULTRA is also the code-name for the DULCE base! Also there seems to be a direct connection between the Dulce base and the Montauk base in Long Island -- which was/is [?] reputedly jointly operated by the Draconian Reptiloids, Orion Greys and the Bavarian Thule Society which had backed the Nazi agenda. - Branton)

Q -- Tom, did you have access to the alien craft? Were you ever inside any of them?

A -- Yes, I frequently saw them in the garages, there are quite a few of them. The main fleet is stored at Los Alamos. Yes, I entered several crafts. There were two things that stick in my mind, the odd spongy feeling of the floors, and the unusual pinkish purple color of the lighting. The crew stated the floor becomes ridged in flight, and the purple tint of the lighting changes to bright blue white. The entire inside of the air craft are scaled down in size, when compared to the average human. The halls were curved and narrow, but some how, when inside it appears bigger than it looks. Certain areas, the outermost sections, almost felt and looked alive. I was never taken up in one.

Q -- Can you give me more information on the reptilian race, what do they do on the sixth level? [The area called Nightmare Hall.]

A -- The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species. It is their job to formulate the proper mixture for the type one and type two beings that the Draco Race has created. The working caste work at the labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all levels of the Dulce Base. There are several different 'races' of aliens that work on the east section of level six (No doubt some collaborating 'Nordic' factions included. - Branton). That section is commonly called "the alien section." The Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5-6-7 levels. The humans are second in command of those levels. I had to ARGUE with one large Draconian 'boss' frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize, Khaarshfashst [pronounced throaty kkhhah-sshh-fahsh-sst]. I usually called him 'Karsh,' and he hated it. The Draconian leaders are very formal when talking to the human race. These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Karsh called me "Leader Castello," but it was used in a sarcastical way. However the worker caste is friendly enough, as long as you allow them to speak first. They will answer if you address them. They are very cautious beings, and consider most humans to be hostile. They always seem surprised when they found many of the humans were open and trustworthy. There is no fraternizing with the aliens off hours. It is forbidden to speak to any alien race [in the halls or an elevator] without a clear business oriented reason. Humans can talk to humans, and aliens can speak to aliens, but that is as far as it goes. At the work site, however, it's different. There is "free speech" in the labs. The camaraderie found in the labs also reaches the computer banks section. In those areas, everybody talks to anybody. However, everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of the hall. Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was, several times I had to arrest some one, simply because they spoke to an alien. It's a strange place.

Q -- Exactly what first made you aware that something was wrong at Dulce? Seems to me that a place as obviously horrible as this one wouldn't need an Einstein to know that this is a CRIME site! What took you so long? Are you the guy who blew the whistle?

A -- There are several things you should know about. I took an oath, under the penalty of death, that no matter what I saw or heard I would never divulge the information. Also, I signed a waiver that states I would willingly give up my life if I was found guilty of 'treason'. At the Dulce Base treason is "ANYTHING that mentions the details of daily operations at this facility, when outside the confinement of the this base." When I first arrived, a "need to know" policy was in effect. The story the 'honchos' told us was that "this is a Tri-Biotransfer Facility with Advanced Technology, doing advanced adventurous methodology for medical and mental gains." Which is a fancy way of saying they do really risky things with human life just to see what would happen. If a medical cure happens, it will be heralded on the surface of the earth as a marvelous new cure, saying it was found after years of research at some well known medical lab. The real story of the cure is never explained. After all, the Dulce Base IS A SECRET FACILITY! These people are very good at what they do. They do not tell the truth about the unfortunate people that end up in "Nightmare Hall." I worked with aliens. With that in mind, you should get the idea of the secrecy and the security at that place. Yes, I know this was not the usual hospital type job site, but in the beginning I 'bought' the whole package. I was reminded daily by intercom, in the elevators, that "this site does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity, please, never speak to the inmates, it can destroy years of work." I'm sensible, when doctors say don't speak to them, who was I to destroy the delicate situation? But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly stated that he was George S---- and that he had been kidnapped and he was sure someone was searching for him. I don't know why he sticks in my mind, I found I was remembering his face, thinking he sure didn't look or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The next weekend I convinced a friend of mine, a cop, to run a check on the guy, saying I had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention the base at all. It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S. was missing. What's worse, the cops thought he was just another guy that got tired of the daily grind and split. That was the beginning. Am I the one that blew the whistle? No. The next Monday, I searched for George, but he was gone. There were no records that explained what happened to him. It was another security officer that came to me saying he and some lab workers wanted an off duty meeting at one of the tunnels, [off the record]. Curiosity took over and I said OK. That night, about nine men showed up. They said they knew they were risking me turning them in but they wanted to show me some things they thought I should see. One by one they showed records that proved many inmates were missing people. There were newspaper clippings, and even photos that they had some how smuggled into the base. They hoped to smuggle them back out, without me turning them in to the honchos. I could see the fear in their faces as they spoke. One man stated he would rather lose his life by trying, than to lose his soul by not doing anything at all. It was that remark that turned the tide. I told them about George and the things I found out about him. After a few hours we pledged to attempt to expose the Dulce Base.

Q -- The name Nightmare Hall is descriptive, but surely there was a 'regular' name, what was it called in the manuals?

A -- In the manuals it was called "The Vivarium". It describes Dulce Base as a "secured facility for tending bio-forms of all types." In their report it is retold as "a private subterranean bio-terminal park, with accommodations for animals, fish, fowl, reptile, and mankind." After SEEING this 'park' the name Nightmare Hall is far more accurate than the manual. The 'accommodations' for the inmates at Nightmare Hall fall short of the pretty picture the manual describes.

Q -- You mentioned one reptilian leader, Khaarshfashst, do you know any thing about him, like where is he from? Is he from Earth or some other planet?

A -- His name means "keeper of the laws". They recieve their name after they reach the "age of awareness". They do not recognize time as an important factor in "being aware" the way humans do. Upon their "age of awareness" they are cognitive of the station or position they are destined to fulfill. At that time they chose or allow someone to choose their name. Their name will include the position they hold and several personally chosen letters. Each letter has a personal meaning, known only to the alien and the one that chose their name. Since Karsh's name means keeper of the laws his name includes kaash [memory or keep, base word for 'Akashic' record] and fashst [law, base word fast or bind]. Reptilians choose to be not only private but secretive of the location of their natal place. To them birth, or emergence of life, is considered as one of the sacred rites of life. They consider Earth or Terra their "home planet", but several reptoids discuss several star maps. Most of those stars were within the Milky Way. Within those star maps lies the stars and planets of the Planets of the Allegiance. Earth being one of the planets in their trade routes. If any human asked clear questions about the Allegiance, the Aliens referred the questions to the Draco. The Draco in turn, referred the questions to their supervisor [me]. I did not have that information about the stars, because information was supplied on a "need to know" basis. I didn't 'need' that information.

Q -- Did any of the working caste join in the revolt? Could you give me some names?

A -- A few of the reptilian janitorial crew let us know that THEY knew WE were attempting to sabotage the work going on in the sixth and seventh levels. One of them, with the name Schhaal, secretly formed a small group of reptoids with the same mind set as my group (Take note of the similarity between this scenario and the NBC mini-series "V", which is now available on video cassette after years of non-availability. I have it on good authority that the original author of the "V" idea was an investigator who knew Thomas Castello on a personal basis. He had connections in Hollywood and had written a motion picture script, which was in turn seen and 'borrowed' without permission by an NBC employee and re-written as a mini-series. The show was based on reptilian humanoids from Sirius-B who had come to earth under the guise of benevolent human-like space brothers to bring a new order of universal peace. In reality they had a secret agenda to rape planet earth of her resources and steal her people for biological sustenance. This agenda was being contested by a human resistance who refused to fall for the reptilian's facade, and these resistors were in turn working with a secret fifth-column of reptilians who did not agree with their leaders' agenda for planet earth. Could this mini-series have had an actual basis in a bizarre reality? - Branton). Sshhaal took upon himself the danger of informing me. He was as open as is possible in a unique situation. On the day I found out about it, I was inspecting a camera near an exit tunnel. He approached, stooped down (the tall reptiloids average about 7-8 ft. in height according to most witnesses - Branton), seemingly scraping some non-existent dirt, and he quietly said, "A few of us agreed that you are singular in your interest in missing-human reports. If true, walk away. I'll reach you. If it's untrue, destroy my life now!" My heart almost leaped out of my chest, but I silently walked toward one of the wide halls. For the rest of my life I'll remember those words! It was the first time I KNEW reptilians could have individual thoughts and opinions! Basically, they formed a uniform front with a small variety of interests. Or at least, that was what we had thought. It was a couple days before I heard from him again. As he walked beside me in the sixth level's infamous hall, I heard him say "Enter the exit tunnel on the sixth level, north, after your shift." The next few hours were long and filled with thoughts of betrayal, or worse, but I shouldn't have worried. I contacted one of the original nine [resistance] men, and let him know, just in case. Gordon wanted to go with me, but I convinced him to wait a few feet from the exit and pretend he was having trouble with his cart [electric, like a golf cart]. When I got there, there were three of them.

SSHHAAL formerly introduced FAHSSHHAA and HUAMSSHHAA [name base word is SSHHAA or assist]. With that, I quickly grabbed Gordon from the hall and the five of us talked and walked in the dark tunnels about three hours. After that day, the joined resistance group got bigger and bolder. Ultimately, it ended when a military assault was initiated via the exit tunnels and they executed anybody on their list, human or reptilian. We fought back, but none of the working caste had weapons, nor did the human lab workers. Only the security force and a few computer workers had flash guns. It was a massacre. Every one was screaming and running for cover. The halls and tunnels were filled as full as possible. We believe it was the Delta Force [because of the uniforms and the method they used] that chose to hit at shift change, an effort that killed as many as named on their list

(NOTE: If Thomas Castello is correct in his assertion, then based on his overall revelations, as well as the revelations of others such as Robert Lazar, Phil Schneider, etc., the Dulce Wars were the result of at least five overlapping factors or scenarios which converged at more or less the same time or played into each other. This may have also involved a conflict of interest within MJ12 itself, and apparently involved different security forces including the Delta Force, Black Berets, Air Force Blue Berets, Secret Service, FBI Division Five, CIA stormtroopers and Dulce Base security. The various factors which seem to have played into the Dulce wars would include animosity towards the Greys for their slaughter of several scientists and security personnel in the Groom Wars below Area 51 three years earlier as described by former MJ12 Special Studies Group agent Michael Wolf; accidental [?] encounters between aliens and human construction workers and security forces near Dulce as described by Phil Schneider; an attack on the Dulce base 'resistance' that was apparently ordered by die-hard collaborators in deep-level intelligence as described by Thomas Castello; an attempt to rescue several of our best scientists who had been captured by the aliens after they had discovered the "Grand Deception" involving a violation of the established treaties, that is the permanent abduction of thousands of humans to the Dulce and other bases for God only knows what purposes, as described by John Lear -- could it be that MJ12 / PI40 was unaware of these abductees, yet their superior agency the BLACK MONK / MAJIC agency was aware and had agreed to an actual exchange of human life for technology?; and another factor would involve a dispute over whether human security personnel could carry flash guns as opposed to machine guns. All of these were apparently contributing factors to the 'altercations' which raged throughout the Dulce Base beginning in 1979. - Branton). We, to this day, do not know who BETRAYED us. Gordon Ennery ran beside me as we ran into the third level exit tunnels, and he died when several bullets slammed into his back. I vaporized that assassin and kept running. And I'm still running. Gordon will be remembered.

Q -- Tell me more about the flash gun. Is it difficult to operate, or is it like the weapon on Star Trek, that can stun or kill on different modes?

A -- It is an advanced beam weapon that can operate on three different phases. Phase one, like Star Trek, can stun and maybe kill, if the person has a weak heart. On phase two, it can levitate ANYTHING no matter what it weighs. Phase three is the SERIOUS BUSINESS mode. It can be used to paralyze anything that lives, animal, human, alien and plant. On the higher position on the same mode, it can create a TEMPORARY DEATH. I assure you, any doctor would certify that person is dead, but their life essence lingers in some strange limbo, some kind of terrible state of non-death. In one to five hours the person will revive, slowly; first the bodily functions will begin, and in a few minutes, consciousness followed with full awareness. In that mode the alien scientists re-program the human brain and plant false information. When the person awakes, he 'recalls' the false information as information he gained through life experience. There is no way for a person to learn the truth. The human mind 'remembers' and believes completely the false data. If you attempt to inform them, they would laugh or get angry. They NEVER believe the truth. Their mind always forgets the experience of re-programming. You asked if the flash gun is difficult to operate. A two year old child could use it with one hand. It resembles a flash light, with black glass conical inverted lens. On the side are three recessed knobs in three curved grooves. Each knob is sized differently. The closer the knob to the hand the less the strength. It's that simple. Each knob has three strengths also, with automatic stops at each position. The strongest position will vaporize any thing that lives. That mode is so powerful it will leave NO TRACE of what it vaporized.

Q -- Is the weapon called a Flash Gun or is there a different name in the manuals?

A -- Everybody calls them Flash Guns, or more commonly "The Flash" or "my Flash" when talking about it. In the manual it is first introduced as the ARMORLUX Weapon. After that, it is explained as the Flash Gun.

Q -- What type of security is found at the Dulce Base? What else is used against espionage or unauthorized entry?

A -- I'll mention a few, but it would be nearly impossible to cover it all. The weapon, besides the Flash Gun, mostly used is a form of sonic. Built in with each light fixture [and most camcorders] is a device that could render a man unconscious in seconds with nothing more than a silent tone. At Dulce there also are still and VCR cameras, eye print, hand print stations, weight monitors, lasers, ELF and EM equipment, heat sensors and motion detectors and quite a few other methods. There is no way you could get very far into the base. If you made it to the second level, you would be spotted within fifteen feet. More than likely, you would become an inmate and never see the light of the surface world again. If you were 'lucky', you would be re-programmed and become one of the countless spies for the Ruling Caste.


Q -- According to certain reports, the Dulce Base is host to [other] aliens that live in level five. Is that true? Can the humans freely roam or meet one-to-one in the halls or is some type of protocol in effect?

A -- There is protocol from the first time you enter the base and it MUST be followed every time you SEE an alien there. From the working caste, to the visiting aliens, to the Ruling Caste, there is a never ending check list of rules, law, and strict protocol. There is never a chance to roam on the fifth level. The alien housing area is off limits to any human. The Hub is surrounded by security, arsenal, military and CIA\FBI sections. The area past the security is one of the most secured areas because it houses so many classified files. The entire east side of the fifth level is off limits except for security personnel holding ULTRA-7 [security clearance] or higher. The garage on the west side of the fifth level requires ULTRA-4 clearance.

Q -- Is there proof available that could confirm the allegations of the underground base, or are we just supposed to believe you?

A -- Many people have asked that one. No, I don't expect people to believe with blind faith, there is tangible proof that has been seen, felt or inspected by quite few folks. I'm in no position to go on a lecture circuit to explain to every person on a one-to-one basis. I am trying to stay alive. All I can do is state again, that Dulce is a SECRET FACILITY. They work HARD to make sure nobody can find the place. If everyone could easily find it, it wouldn't be a SECRET facility. I've explained the extreme security methods they use. There is other proof available. There are five sets of copies in five different boxes in five different locations that hold complete proof of every thing I have tried to explain. Here is a list of contents of each box (delivered into the safe-keeping of five individuals known only to Thomas Castello and to the individual recipients - Branton): (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 photographs of Aliens, creatures, cages and vats. (B) One silent candid video tape, begins on the computer banks, shows the vats, multi shots of Nightmare Hall, two shots of Greys, one shot of the Terminal showing sign saying 'To Los Alamos' and about thirty seconds of the Shuttle train arriving. (C) 25 pages of diagrams, chemical formulas and schematics of alien equipment. (D) A copy of the new treaty complete with signatures. (E) 2 pages of original Alien documents signed by Ronald Reagan [as governor of California], each page includes Reagan's signature. The ORIGINAL set mentioned above is sealed in one piece oxygen free heavy plastic box. That set includes: (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 WITH original negatives (B) The video tape, AND the original micro film, from which the video tape was copied. (C) The 25 original pages of diagrams [with notations], formulas, alien equipment schematics plus the schematics for the Flash Gun and MY Flash Gun. (D) The treaty with Reagan's signature plus seven other political signatures and four Alien signatures. The working Flash Gun in that box is an extremely dangerous weapon. In the wrong hands, there is no limit on the danger it could inflict. That proof must be protected. But when placed in the hands of certain government agencies, it would not be treated as proof for an Alien visitation. That government branch KNOWS THE TRUTH and they publicly lie. Think about it like this, do you KNOW, for certain proof, that George Washington lived? Or do you believe what other people SAID about him? There is no one alive that saw with their own eyes what is claimed about him. You judge all you know about him by what other people SAID. Columbus SAID there is a new land, and it was found. I am SAYING there are aliens in several underground bases in this country and terrible things happen in those places. If I die, before it is proven, search for proof (after all, the Dulce Base and the other bases aren't going anywhere. Unlike UFO's themselves they are not "here today and gone tomorrow". If they are there, then there are bound to be some indications of the fact. - Branton). Demand that the government admit it. If enough people demand it, they WILL find a way to explain the base, or at least explain why they must keep it secret. There are MANY people that work at the Dulce Base that know me. I am challenging those co-workers to speak up, at least anonymously. Send a letter, or a telegram [or fax] to confirm what I have explained. In the name of the brave men, woman, children and aliens that died TRYING to let the public know what is going on at the Dulce Facility, EXPOSE that horrid place before thousands more innocent people are tortured and die unspeakable deaths.

Q -- What about the elevators, do they drop from the surface to the seventh level in a couple of seconds? Do you know anything about them? Are they electrically lifted? Every where on the surface world there are elevators made by Otis Elevator Company. Does that company make the elevators at Dulce?

A -- I failed to notice what brand was available in the elevators at the base. I could tell you that there is no elevator anywhere at Dulce that drops from the surface to the seventh level. The security blue prints show the levels are 'stepped' down. Each level drops one floor only. Not even the Hub has an express elevator. After the third level, not only would you change elevators, you are weighed and color coded, before you re-enter the car. All the elevators are magnetically controlled, even lights in elevators, as well as all lights on all levels are magnetically induced. The light bulbs are not the type bought on the surface, but a totally different type of light system. The illumination found there is a closer match to natural sunlight than any artificial light on the surface world. The shape of the elevators is unique. If you have ever seen a Tupperware sugar bowl, you could see the shape copied in the elevator. Sort of like an open ended oval with another half oval on each side. The elevator shaft matches the shape perfectly. The magnetic controls are in the half oval shape. If you could stand in or close to the half ovals, you would feel the slight pull of the power of those magnets. The motion is smooth and silent, there is a nearly unnoticed surge when the motion starts or stops. There are no cables needed, because the lift is magnetic, not electric. Since there are no cables in the elevator cars there is no chance of them falling.

Q -- I understand that certain groups of cleared individuals in the government are collaborating with alien groups. Is it known how many groups and of what type they are working with?

A -- I don't know how many groups or what type they are working with.

Q -- A mysterious security man calling himself agent "Yellow Fruit" says he worked at Groom Lake [Area 51]. The Security Officer states that he's been in contact with benevolent aliens, at the Groom Lake facility -- are you aware of such a group?

A -- Yellow Fruit is one of the slang names for Yellow Jack [or Yellow Flag] that shows quarantine and caution in the labs. There are so many different slang names at Dulce labs that meant quarantine that the workers published a booklet to show the meanings. At Dulce, Yellowfruit are the lab workers [so called from the yellow light outside the decontamination chambers]. Banana is the older workers, lemon is the new guys and so on.

Q -- Is there an alien installation under Groom Lake or Papoose Lake at the Nevada Test Site, and are they conducting biological research at these sites?

A -- Most of the stuff at the Groom facility deals with defense, but there is a large storage area in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts. From what I have heard, the medical tests at the Nevada Test Site are conducted by and for the Navy.

Q -- According to my sources, the Aerospace companies have a secret underground installation in the Tehachapi Mountains, not far from Rosamond near Edwards AFB. Insiders refer to the Tahachapi Installment as the Ant Hill. They are experimenting with advanced technology such as antigravity disks. Some have seen basketball sized floating orbs patrol the facility, do you have any further information on this?

A -- The California mountains [Tehachapi, Chocolate, Shasta, etc.] all have alien security methods and equipment. The basketball size orbs are used for unmanned patrol. They are silent, but when photographing living beings there is a humming sound. The glow that emits light is magnetic aura. This [light] is in the visible spectrum [3900 angstroms]. You can see the light, but the light does not reflect off any thing.

Q -- Is there anything you can tell me about the moon - alien installations? Atmosphere? U.S. bases?

A -- There is not much I can tell you there. I wasn't in the Lunar Program. I heard there was a LOT of equipment sent to the moon between 1959-1964 under "Project Whiteout".

Q -- How do the aliens use magnetism? Do they use it as an energy source? Is there more we need to know about magnetism?

A -- The aliens use magnetics for EVERY THING! They use magnetics as the basic structure for their energy source. The more you learn about magnetics, the better. The Human Race calls them 'magnets', the Aliens call them 'lodestar'. They have been harvesting lodestars [lodestones] for centuries. Not only that, they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting that power, now and in the future. As long as we were only using magnetic power as an oddity, there was no problem. But in recent times, the human race has begun using magnetic power and finding more ways to utilize that commodity. There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race (or those who supposedly 'represented' the human race, if you could call it that - Branton) didn't mind at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As people searched for another source for power, we turned to magnetics. The aliens wanted a new treaty. What could we offer? They chose land, underground mining rights, animals and humans for new experiments. The general public NEVER KNEW about the treaty. The governmental [Bavarian cultist] heads of the world chose another treaty in 1933. This time 'we' got high-tech knowledge in exchange. So now, the more we use magnetics, the more they claim humans, and the lands of the U.S.A. We were 'sold' in exchange for magnets. If you doubt it, look around -- there are token companies that 'really' utilize magnetic power, but are depending on electric based or ceramic magnets, NOT lodestar [magnetic oxide of iron] based magnets.

Q -- What do the aliens do with the cow blood and other parts from mutilated animals? Do they need these fluids for research or survival?

A -- The aliens use the blood and body parts for formula to keep them alive [their food] and for use in the growing vats, and for the artificial wombs. Plasma and amniotic fluid are the two most vital ingredients for their lives. Also, the 'sap' of some plants can keep them alive for months. Most of the plants are parasitic in nature, but red grapes and okra plants can also be added to the formula to keep them alive, if they have no 'regular' formula.

Q -- Female abductees report being inseminated by aliens. Are they trying to hybridize our species?

A -- Yes, they are breeding slave-warriors for the upcoming war with the alien races (the Nordic races? - Branton). The serpentine races are in orbit around Earth, Venus and Mars.

Q -- Abductees have reported that the aliens can pass their bodies and that of the abductee through window glass. Is this a feat of magic achieved by advanced technology or is it a psychic power?

A -- The aliens have mastered atomic matter. They can go through walls like we go through water! It is not magic, just physics. We can learn to do the same thing. It has to do with controlling atoms at will.

Q -- Are you in communication with benevolent aliens or do you have contacts that are? If you are, can you tell us how we can communicate with their teams?

A -- I am not at liberty to discuss communications with any friendly alien life forms. I can tell you there is a friendly factor active in Costa Rica, I am in direct communication with that factor. I am an active member of the Sub-Galactic League of Costa Rica. This organization, using a small satellite dish, a television set and ham radio equipment reached this factor. I might suggest that by using similar equipment and a low band frequency, you may reach the same factor.

Q -- Do you stay in the U.S.A., or do you live abroad? Do you work now? I know you have been on the run for several years.

A -- Yeah, quite a few years. I visit the U.S., but it's really dangerous when I do. I've lived in several countries. I spent a few years in Mexico, working as a mercenary soldier. It's rough work, frequently living in the bush, eating what ever I can find. I spent time in South America, fighting the drug cartel [it's not the citizens, it's the secret government, top officials AND American alphabet boys -- CIA, FBI, etc.]. I settled in Costa Rica, 'bought' a small house in Limon. Actually it is a shanty that some one abandoned. I paid the equivalency of $11 to one of the local constables for the right to call it 'mine'. My name changes when I think some one is asking questions. I've worked in one of the underground bases near the Panama border. It's in the mountains, not very far from a passive but 'active' volcano. It is not as fancy as Dulce, but the people are wonderful.

Q -- What is the best city in Costa Rica for an American to visit and maybe move to live?

A -- None of them are worth anything [by comparison], but I like Limon. There is a real culture shock when you get past the tourist sections. Inside the urban areas, it's not so bad, but away from the beaten path the picture changes. There are no improvements in the shanties, no sewers, plumbing, or paved roads. But if you stay in the cities, and you don't mind the big difference in the cultures, the countries have a lot to offer. Nice weather, great beaches and beautiful trees with fruit growing everywhere.

Q -- Are there any other security level names [other than 'secret' - 'top secret' - 'ultra']?

A -- There are many other security clearances, here are a few, UMBRA, STELLAR, G2-7Z, TRIAD, UMT [Universal Military Training] and UMS [Universal Military Service], ASTRAL and SUB-ASTRAL. UMBRA is higher than ULTRA (Note: It may be conceivable that some of the higher security clearances are used for the joint human-alien interstellar projects. For instance Whitley Streiber described an abduction to another planetary sphere where he encountered ancient ruins, aliens and human personnel dressed in military kackies and carrying camcorders, automatic weapons, etc. Obviously such personnel would have to possess an extremely high security classification, such as "Universal Military Service" for instance? The joint alien-illuminati "alternative-3" projects have reportedly taken part in joint offensive operations against the peaceful residents of other worlds, this according to a couple who 'defected' from the alternative-3 movement after an agent from the 'Federation' warned them about such atrocities. - Branton)

Q -- Ever see a badge with 'MAJI'?

A -- No.

Q -- Since you have lived in Spanish speaking countries, it's obvious that you are bilingual. What other languages do you speak?

A -- Other than English, the only other languages I speak are Spanish and Eusshu, the common language [alien] spoken at Dulce. I speak Spanish fluently, and enough Eusshu to keep my self out of trouble. Shortly after I first transferred to Dulce, I took a crash course in Eusshu. Any one that plans to spend more than one week working at that base, they are wise to learn the basics. Other wise, you are required to wait for an escort to get around. All the signs at that base are written in the universally recognized symbolic language. Eusshu is logical and easy to learn.

Q -- What are the eating habits of the aliens? Are they carnivores?

A -- That depends weather they are one of the gray worker caste, one of the reptilian worker caste, or one of the higher developed Draconian Leaders. Also, the created beings, replicants, type two being, or one of the really strange [genetic] mixtures. I'll try to cover a little of each. The formula includes amniotic water, plasma and several other body parts [raw, usually bovine]. This nearly clear mixture with a texture of pureed peaches, and almost in that color. The grays make the attempt not to 'eat' around the humans, because the odor of it is VERY unpleasant to ANY human. They can spend days or even weeks between feedings. The working caste of the reptilians eat meat, insects and a large variety of plants including vegetables and fruit. They prefer their meat raw and very fresh, but have learned to enjoy some cooked meat like rare beef steak

(Note: According to many abductees, the reptiloids are not above eating human flesh. It has been said that they prefer flesh that is young enough to be free of toxins, yet old enough to be imbued with a lifetime of accumulated "emotional energy residue" which is resident within the human body. Some abductees claim that certain reptilian factions have such complex bio-technologies that they are able to remove a human's soul-energy-matrix and place it in a containment 'box', and use the controlled 'body' for whatever purpose they choose. Some abductees also insist that in some cases the reptiloids can create a cloned duplicate of a person in a short amount of time through time warping and replace the soul-energy-matrix of a person back into the new cloned body if their disappearance from society would otherwise create too many problems. This way they can ingest the emotional-residue-imbued original body without the abductee realizing [in most cases] that their soul-memory-matrix has been transferred to a cloned body, because they would have experienced a total 'soul-matrix' energy transfer and a suppression of any memories relating to the transfer process. The cloned bodies do not possess the integrated emotional residue that the vampirialistic reptiloids apparently crave and find intoxicating in a similar manner as a human on earth who is addicted to hard drugs. - Branton). Unlike the Greys, they eat frequently and usually carry or send for food on their breaks. The Ruling Caste is SECRETIVE about their foods. They have created several dietary myths that they carefully embellish when the chance arrives. One of their favorite legends involves one of their ancestors' ability to eat an entire flock of geese in one setting. They RARELY eat in sight of any other species. They carefully choose their food, then carry their meal to their quarters. It was only when dignitaries arrive at the base did they join their meals. They enjoy the same foods we do, and they have been seen secretly munching on a freshly found snail. The "human looking" replicants eat some cooked vegetables. They rely on vitamins and liquid protein for sustenance. If they have to eat on the surface world, theycan eat what ever they are served, but as soon as possible they regurgitate. Their digestive systems frequently fail to process the food properly. The engineered beings have a special diet, created for their dietary needs. The mixture includes several organ foods blended with plasmatic fluids, amniotic liquids and parasitiplasm materials. These unique 'animals' also enjoy occasional green plants, usually grasses or lettuce. The creatures that are designed to become warriors, eat protein filled liquids.

Q -- In the Dulce Papers, copper seems to be high on the importance list. In what methods is copper used?

A -- One of the main uses of copper at Dulce is containment of the magnetic flow, magnets are used every where at that base. The infamous vats' interiors are lined with copper, and the exterior walls are clad with stainless steel. The mechanical arm that stirs the liquid is made of a copper alloy. Other uses include dietary needs in a few of the transbiotic beings. There are several specially made cells or rooms built first with lead, then magnetic steel then clad in copper. It is in those cells on the Fourth Level that contain living aural essence. This essence is what you would call [a captured disembodied] 'soul' or..."astral body". (Note: This may tie-in with the reports of certain remote-viewing "astral spies" who claim to have "projected" into underground facilities like Dulce New Mexico or Pine Gap Australia, only to have close encounters with these astral containment fields, or have been captured by the same and released after being 'interrogated' via super-sensitive electronic equipment. In one case an Australian remote-viewer was probing the Pine Gap facility where he also "saw" three other astral spys.

The magnetic or astral body of one of these people had been captured by such a containment field, which really disturbed him. This man, Robert, also saw Greys and Reptiloids operating in the deeper levels of Pine Gap and also Nordic-type humans who were apparently captives and who did NOT seem to be very happy about being there. - Branton)

Q -- Growing multi-species beings, blood formulas and human parts in vats sounds like a bad plot to a science fiction movie. The doctors and scientists of the world claim you can't mix the species (Note: Naturally this may be true, however through genetic bioengineering and gene-splicing this has apparently been accomplished to some extent - Branton). The concepts mentioned in the Dulce Papers sounds far fetched. Could you provide information that the average "surface world" reader could understand about similar things?

A -- The doctors and scientists on the SURFACE world may say that, but underground, away from the prying eyes of ethics boards, they DO GROW TRANS- GENUS BEINGS! There is a lot of written material available at libraries. One of the best sources is an easy to read book published back in 1969, by Prentice-Hall International, with the title of "THE SECOND GENESIS, THE COMING CONTROL OF LIFE" by Albert Rosenfelt. In this book, they discuss "animals that may be especially bred to supply genetically reliable organs for people." --and "...the use of fetal or embryonic material from which adult sized organs and tissues may be grown..." Also he discusses the fact that embryonic tissue has no immunological activity, therefore it cannot provoke the defense mechanism in the recipient. IT WILL JOIN THE BODY NOT AS A FOREIGN ANTIGEN, BUT AS A NATURAL PROTEIN. He further discusses solitary generation, commonly called virgin birth, but also known as parthenogenesis. With one "virgin birth" in 1.6 million births average ON THE SURFACE of the world, in Dulce that rate is reversed. Occasionally, a "normally born" human infant is born in the hospital wards on the Seventh Level. Parthenogenesis is the method used to grow type two beings. The now common transsexual surgery on the surface world, began at the Dulce Base. Men became women on a whim in the Seventh Level labs, and with the Fourth Level technology, the brain washing [resulted in] the "eager desire to become a woman" and that poor man [whether a willing or unwilling participant] FIRMLY BELIEVES he always wanted to be a woman. No one could convince him to believe the truth. ALL THINGS ARE TWISTED AT DULCE. A quote by Dr. Ralph W. Gerard [in THE SECOND GENESIS] put in his now classic statement: "There can be no twisted thought without a twisted molecule". MOST have originated at Dulce.

Q -- How are the human workers stopped from telling everything about Dulce?

A -- Implants, fear threats to harm the families, EM control, also reprogramming with ELF [Extremely Low Frequency] and drugs are the most common methods to 'encourage' the workers not to divulge the location or daily routine.

Q -- A construction worker at "The Ant Hill" [The Northrup's Tehachapi Base] reports seeing 10-12 foot tall human looking beings in lab coats. Who are these guys, are they from the hollow earth? (Note: The Hollow Earth theory is one that was postulated by various well known individuals, including Marshall B. Gardner, Raymond Bernard, William Halley - discoverer of Halley's comet, Edgar Allen Poe, Edgar Rice Burroughs, John Cleves Symmes, John Uri Lloyd and others. Basically the thesis involves what one might refer to as the Geoconcavitic sphere theory, or that as the earth was forming in its molton state the planetary spin created a hollow or concavity within the center similar to the hollow created by the centrifugal force of a horizontal washing machine following a spin cycle. The theory, which has been postulated in para-geological theories, in adventure novels, and in some cases even in alleged visits to the "inner world", states that the 'shell' of the earth averages between 800-1000 miles thick, with an interior surface consisting of oceans and land illuminated perpetually by a sphere of electromagnetic and/or nuclear energy suspended at the very center of the "empty space". There are reputedly funnel-like openings near the polar regions, perpetually concealed by mist created by the collision of cold air from the outside and hot air from the inside, which permits ingress and egress to and from this inner 'world'. The theory states that the inner surface has its own gravity, yet slightly less than the outer surface gravity. One side-theory is that between the inner and outer surface where gravity is nullified there exists a layer of weightless or low-weight caverns in an eternal state of chaos where minerals, liquids, gases and chemicals continually slam together from the earth's rotation, causing intense magmatic activity, a virtual inferno, or "bottomless pit". Some have theorized that -- based on the Apocryphal book of Esdras, chapter 13, which contains non-cannonized Jewish legends -- that the 10 'lost' tribes of Israel disappeared beyond the river Sambatyon and to a place in the far north where humans never lived before called 'Arzareth'. In the last days, a path would be made through the ice and waters of the north and the lost tribes would return. There are three tribes accounted for as of this writing, or rather two tribes and two half tribes: Judah, Benjamin, half of the Levite tribe, and apparently half of the tribe of Dan if we are to believe the Ethiopian 'Jews' who claim to be descended from Dan. The '13th' tribe would be accounted for by the fact that the two Josephite tribes of Ephraim and Manassah are considered distinctive tribes in and of themselves. As for the 'giants', some believe that these have a direct connection to the 10-12 foot tall 'Anakim' people mentioned in the Old Testament who were driven out of Palestine, following which the Torah gives no further details as to their fate, although there have been many reports of such 'giants' being encountered in large cavern systems below Alaska, Oregon, California, Utah, Texas and Mexico, and also reports of ancient gravesites in the western U.S. and elsewhere where the remains of human giants have reportedly been discovered. Most often they -- like the fifth dimensional "Sasquatch people" themselves -- have been described as being benevolent, unless provoked. - Branton)

A. They are probably inner earth drones [workers]. The deeper you get, the stranger the life forms. The tall men are from the subterranean levels, lower yet are the dwarfed deformed forms. I don't trust either of them. There are other forms, that both the tall men and the dwarfed men fear and loathe, they are similar to Bigfoot in appearance, but extremely violent and enjoy eating what ever they find while it is still alive! They are subhuman and demented,with an IQ around 15 (Note: Apparently, according to another source, these lower 'Bigfoot' type creatures -- having more of a resemblance to apes than to the more "human-like" faces and features of the much friendlier Sasquatch people who frequent the surface -- dwell in wild cavern systems some 6 or more miles deep, along with other very large and dangerous insectoid and quadruped or serpentine reptilian life forms reminiscent to something from out of a hadean nightmare. This is according to a report I investigated some years ago of a group of speleonauts who reportedly broke into a vast underground labyrinth west and northwest of Cushman, Arkansas, where they encountered these types of creatures as well as friendly blue-skinned humans who claimed to be descended from a family that had survived an ancient global deluge by taking refuge within a large ship. These ancient people claimed that their ancestors had come to the Americas and discovered the cavern 'world', wherein they commenced to establish their hidden civilization. - Branton). The reptiloid [hominoid as opposed to quadruped or serpentine] life forms stay in caves or caverns that aren't very deep. They prefer the desert mountains. They use camouflage rather than fighting, but they do carry vril rods for protection [flash guns]. They do have a symbol, not the hokey "snake-with-wings" that I keep seeing in the public (which is used mostly by the GREYS and also as a medical symbol for the Delta Force - Branton). The REPTOIDS use a dragon with its tail in its mouth [a circle] with seven pointed stars in the middle.

Q -- There have been reports of the Delta Force having black vans with no tires that hover over the ground. How much are we [U.S.A.] already inter-working with alien cultures?

A -- I haven't seen the black vans you mentioned. We are totally submerged with alien cultures. Very little of the original human cultures have survived.

Q -- How can WE [the public] go after, or expose an alien culture which is covert and hidden?

A -- Go for the best shot. That means go after the REPTOID. They stay near the surface, they choose to try to hide and avoid contact. They are soldiers, doing a job and usually there are two or three at each job site. They are 'manning' a remote post. They are not to bother the humans unless they are endangering the post. Most of them are not hostile and won't kidnap you, they may blast you with a flash gun that may paralyze you [you won't remember the flash] for an hour or two and cause confusion and mild fear. It could cause you to black out [pass out] for a while. It is their way to escape and buy time to hide any visible equipment. If you know any areas with repeated reptilian sightings, then that is the place for you to look. They are fearsome to meet face to face, and their voices are harsh and whispery with heavy ss's, but most of them understand English [and several other languages]. Wear something with a reptile [not something violent, like St. George killing the Dragon!] in sight. If you see one, keep your hands OPEN, palm forward, arms DOWN. That is the non-aggression approach. DON'T raise your arms, unless told to. DON'T carry anything in your hands or arms. If he doesn't run, walk SLOWLY towards him. Let him speak first. They consider humans repulsive and hostile and threatening [with good reason!]. DON'T try to offer him anything, DON'T touch him or anything of his. If he hisses at you, back up a couple feet, but DON'T LOOK AWAY! It simply means he finds you smelly. DON'T try to overpower him, he is stronger than ten or twelve men! Usually, if he hasn't run so far, he is curious and wants to talk to you. FIGHT YOUR FEAR and your thoughts of panic.

Q -- How do we get closer to some kind of data to prove to others that there really is a danger from non-human beings?

A -- Good question. I'm afraid we will find the proof the hard way, when we are invaded. Try to keep a small camera with you at all times. When you search for reptoids, keep it in your pocket.

Q -- Is there a specific location where the public can set up their cameras and equipment to DOCUMENT an alien-government base, and/or their activities?

A -- The problem is, most of the meetings are held in military bases or underground. The Groom Lake Facility does fly several alien craft that regularly fly over unpopulated land that go back and forth from several bases, Southern California has several notable areas. Twenty Nine Palms -- Lancaster or Chocolate Mountains are well know for such activities.

Q -- Could you provide us with a copy of your badge or card you used at Dulce?

A -- Badges or cards never leave the bases. All exits have bars or walls of metal... to open, to go out requires using the card. When you use it for an exit slot, the card won't come out. Each time you leave the base, you are issued a new card, with all the usual data about you, plus your weight added, corrected daily. There are several mines in the Chocolate Mts. that open into a base highway, but be aware that they are patrolled regularly and there are cameras there.

Q -- There are so many types of really far out 'Aliens' seen in TV, movies, magazines and popular fiction, is there one type of a fictional unknown race, in your opinion, that fits the term 'Alien'?

A -- Yes! There are two, an alien that is totally indescribable, and another would be a pseudo-alien.

Q -- What are the dimensions of the Dulce Facility?

A -- There are 1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico., towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels. The base is STILL GROWING [due west].

Q -- What is the top depth?

A -- The First Level starts 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling of seven feet, except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 and 60 feet. There are approximately 45 feet or more between each level. The average highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The HUB at the base is 3,000 feet wide. Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place.

Q -- Are there "regular vehicle" exits that can be observed from the ground?

A -- Yes, but they are inside Los Alamos.

Q -- Are their aerial exits that can be observed?

A -- Twenty miles due north of Dulce (across the border into southern Colorado? - Branton) is a large hanger, it is hidden by a facade of cliffs. Look for an isolated short road on the top of a mesa, with no road to or from the top.

Q -- Are the ventilation shafts visible?

A -- The ventilation shafts are hidden by bushes or vents inside caves. There are five on the top of the mesa, be aware there are cameras inside most of the vents.

Q -- Is there external security, and could we recognize them in or around the town itself?

A -- There is minimal security on the surface, most of the men [and women] are Air Force or "highway crew" men. There used to be a Best Western motel that hosts or hires a lot of Base workers from Level One. I don't know if that motel is still operational. Most of the security force live in Santa Fe. Others live at White Pine [Los Alamos].

Q -- Are there security sensors? What type? If so, what is their power source?

A -- Yes there are many types of sensors, radar, infrared, heat sensors, microwave, EMGW, and satellite. Most of the sensors are powered by magnetic power. The only thing you may notice on the surface, would be an occasional satellite dish.

Q -- If you can, give us some information on the upcoming war with the aliens. When does it start? Do you recommend going underground?

A -- The war has already begun. To start, they use "weather control" devices that can cripple a city in hours. Storms, flood and drought -- with those few things they can bring any country to their knees in a hurry. Yes, I do recommend going underground. Choose a location that has a higher elevation than the surrounding terrain. Pick out a cave or even an abandoned mining shaft or two, bury a cache of supplies [including food and water!] near these locations. Place the supplies in heavy plastic boxes that have tight lids [to prevent the destruction by earth burrowing rodents and insects]. Then plan to live like a squatter when it becomes necessary. If you own land, create a system of tunnels and tell no one. Use your tunnels to secrete your supplies, and plan to live in those corridors when you must.

Q -- What about the reptilian ships that are in orbit around the equator (presumably including the original two 'planetoids' that arrived in geosynchronous orbits around earth at 400 and 600 miles up in 1953. This reportedly led to an NSA project which successfully communicated with the Grey aliens and resulted in a contact-landing-treaty scenario involving president Eisenhower and other Executive-Military-Industrial officials at Muroc/Edwards/Holloman Air Force Bases in 1954 - Branton), are they cloaked?

A -- They are not cloaked the way you may think. It's more like nobody is learning to SEE, even though it is in plain sight. Like the mail man becomes invisible because you are so used to seeing him you never noticed he is alive. One of the favorite methods of covert activities is to 'hide' their operation in such an OBVIOUS way [or place] that no one would suspect it is covert (for instance, hiding entrances to underground bases beneath religious shrines, federal buildings, mining works, malls, libraries, lodges, hotels or basically areas that one would consider the least likely places to hide or accommodate an entrance to an underground facility. The underground New World Order 'FEMA' facilities throughout the United States apparently utilize this type of concealment with many of their bases. - Branton)!

Q -- What are the Greys susceptible to?

A -- The grays are photosensitive, any bright light hurts their eyes. They avoid sunlight, and travel at night. Camera flashes causes them to back up. It could be used as a weapon against them, but they recover quickly. It could buy enough time to escape. Use commands, or nonsensical words in the form of commands and they will back up. Their brain is more logical than ours and they do not create 'fun'. They do not understand poetry either. What really confuses them is saying things in "pig-latin". We learned that in a hurry, and used it against them [the GREYS] in the Dulce Wars.

Q -- Can greys read your intentions if you came up behind one?

A -- Yes. They read your INTENT, because they use your body's frequency. The human race broadcasts a frequency, that they recognize as an electromagnetic impulse. Each person has a slightly different frequency, that difference is what we call 'personality'. When a human thinks, they broadcast strong impulses, in the case of 'fear' the frequency is 'loud' and easy to recognize (by the same right, a calm and composed mind-set should be far more difficult to 'recognize' - Branton).

Q -- Can we shield ourselves against their mental control?

A -- We CAN shield ourselves against them, however 95% of the human race never try to control their thoughts, and controlling our own thoughts is the best weapon. The average person rarely thinks in a clear pattern. That allows the brain to think in a chaotic way. Control your thoughts, AND YOU CAN STOP THE ALIENS ATTEMPTING TO ABDUCT AND CONTROL YOU. Controlling my own thoughts have kept me alive for years.

Q -- Could you shed some light on the type of human the aliens are looking for when they abduct?

A -- I can tell you that the most common are petite women in their early twenties or early thirties, dark haired boys between five to nine, small to medium size men in their mid-twenties to mid-forties. But, let me stress that there are ALL TYPES of people being held against their will in the Dulce Base! There are tall heavy men and women, teenagers, elderly folks and very young girls in the cages AND the vats. I only mention the most common age-size are the small young men and petite women. The boys are favored because at that age their bodies are rapidly growing, and their atomic material is adaptable in the transfer chamber. The young small women are frequently very fertile. The men are used for sperm. I have no idea why they prefer small to average size men.

Q -- Did you ever see twins or triplets, etc.?

A -- Since you mentioned it, no. It never crossed my mind to search for them. But then that doesn't mean they aren't there. There is no way I could have seen everybody at that huge complex.

Q -- What is the prevalent human race at the Dulce Base? I am curious about both the human workers, and the inmates.

A -- The human work force is made of people from every nation on the surface world. The one thing they share is that they all speak english. If you are asking if there are white, black, red, yellow and brown skin color, again I'll have to say that there is no 'prevalent' race there. As for inmates, I could see ALL races there. From what I could see, it looked like there were more 'white' people, but again, I saw a constant flow of different people, many I think, were only there for a few hours.

Q -- Please explain the method they use to identify each inmate.

A -- No one has a name. When first brought to this facility, they were issued one large 'number'. Usually that code has a mixture of numbers and letters. They show the place, how, and by who, followed by the time, age, sex and finally the personal number [their S.S. number]. For example it might look like this: NVLV-00A-00700-P00:00:00-00-M-000-00-000

Q -- With that huge facility, trash and garbage must be a real problem, how do they dispose it?

A -- It was never a problem. Some of it is 'reformed' or melted down then remade. Some of the wet garbage is 'eaten' by bacterial forms, and what's left is vaporized in a vat like chamber. The residue of that action [it takes them months to get enough to measure] is used in a complex lye and used to fertilize crops.

Q -- Where is your family? Not just your wife and son, but parents and siblings?

A -- Cathy and Eric are still missing. My parents died in a car crash when I was in my teens. I have one brother, if he is alive I suspect he is inside an underground base some where. I haven't heard from him for several years. Please pray for them, please!

Q -- What is your birth date, and where were you born?

A -- 23 April 1941, Glen Ellyn, IL [actually in a farm at home, in the place now called Glen Ellyn, my birth certificate list is at Wheaton, IL]

Q -- You have been through so much, and yet keep fighting, what is your biggest fear?

A -- That the general public will forget THE TRAPPED INNOCENT PEOPLE in the despicable place, and will ignore THE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN ADDED TO THAT PLACE EVERY MONTH.

From: "Nicky Molloy" <nicola@a...>

Date: Sat Nov 4, 2000 3:31 pm


Utah is literally surrounded by underground bases where 'reptilian humanoids' reportedly have been seen. I will assume that the reader is already familiar with the reptilian mystery as described in such websites as and

On such sites one will learn about these bases, in this case those surrounding the state of Utah on all sides...Burley Idaho to the north, Mt. Teton to the northeast, Denver International Airport to the east, Dulce New Mexico to the southeast, Superstition Mts. near Phoenix Arizona to the South and Las Vegas, Mercury, Groom Lake Nevada to the west.

There has been a great deal written on the reptilians, especially on David Icke's reptilian Archives site and these cases are certainly not limited to the areas mentioned above. This report will deal mainly with the reptilian activity in Utah, or rather the many stories that I have heard. Whether these accounts are based on fact or fancy I will let the readers decide.

I was born and lived the early years of my life in the southeast corner of Salt Lake Valley. Although I have no "conscious" memory, I do have what might be called "intuitive" memories in the form of dreams and so on of being involved in some sort of government-alien interaction scenario, since a child. The gist of the scenario involves underground colonies of humans who, after entering into territorial treaties with subterran species of reptilian humanoids, over a period of time became increasingly assimilated into a psychic collective which controls the reptilians.

These humans are known as the Melchizedeks who apparently have ties with the inner cores of Masonry, Mormonism, the Naga-Mayas of Mt. Shasta, the Agharti-Ashtar collective and native tribes living in a large system of caverns. There are even rumors that the lost Israelite tribe of Mannasah resides in this underground realm.

My first introduction to the "reptilian" mystery came through my correspondence with Tal Le Vesque. Sometime later I began hearing rumors of related activity in Utah. I remember the day when I received a phone call from my friend Kaye Studstrup of S.E.Salt Lake City, telling me about what she learned from a friend of hers, Irvarene Davis, of West Valley City, Utah. I called and later visited, Mrs Davis in her home and learned the whole story. I was not surprised to learn that her entire neighborhood had been plagued for years by abduction type phenomena. One of her neighbors spoke of being abducted to an underground city where she met strange humans and brown skinned reptilians. But this was not the story which led me to her.

The story involved a young man named peter, the son-in-law of Mrs Davis, who had just been hired on as a security guard at the Crossroads Mall in downtown Salt lake City. Peter had learned that construction workers digging out the lower levels of the Mall - where Crossroads Cinemas now lie - had broken into some underground tunnels, but never returned, he was told. When asking a fellow security guard about his desire to explore the tunnels, he was told that this would not be wise since he might encounter the "lizard men" (exact words) and not be allowed to return. This other security guard was deadly serious.

Another Salt Laker, john Todd, recalls the day many years ago when he walked into the Crossroads Plaza, only to find a construction area in the lowest level where there was a pit-tunnel cordoned off by construction tape. Ever curious, Mr Todd walked apst the barrier and looked down the hole. Suddenly a construction worker appeared and angrily told him to leave the area. Mr Todd responded in a friendly fashion and got the man to admit that the tunnel had been penetrated five days earlier, that one of the workers went down in it to explore, but in the five days since had not returned... John Todd had also worked at the Dugway military base to the west, where he had met a man at the tire shop who swore that he had seen 'people' transform into reptilian humanoids, in the town of Dugway.

Kaye Studstrup had introduced me to Dan, a young man whose life was going well until he was abducted in City Creek canyon east of Salt Lake City, by a "UFO". he did not remember what took place following his initial encounter - he woke up on the ground in the dead of night - but he did have nightmares of tall, green-skinned (reptilian?) aliens with dark eyes staring down at him, as if he were on some sort of operating table. Dan became very suicidal afterwards.

Kaye Studstrup claims to be part of a hybrid program. As a teen she had photographic memory, until the abductions began, following which she had experienced nothing but memory problems... almost as if the aliens are intentionally disarming those who might become a threat to them. the evidence suggests that they also use "Montaukian" temporal manipulation to control us, having created numerous temporal even singularities which act as parasitical artificial reality-fields which feed off of our own prime universal nexus.

Anyway, Kaye showed me the skin on her lower legs which appeared very scaly (not the result of drying but definitely-defined pink 'scales'). So maybe she is part of some alien genetic project? Her father worked with the Manhattan project, which according to some was also involved with reptilian 'Gray' aliens based under Los Alamos, New Mexico. Kaye's grandson Matthew is also an abductee. Kaye recalls meeting a "man" who claimed to be from Draconis. Matt also met this individual and complained afterward that he had somehow gained access to his mind and wouldn't leave.

Irvarene Davis of West Valley City (west of Salt lake City) also recalls childhood experiences with reptilian-like aliens, on one occasion she was horrified to see what she could only describe as an alien that looked like a "creature from the "Black Lagoon" peering in through her window while she was living in Nevada. Some time later Mrs. Davis' son Robert was hired on as a security worker on a night shift, with the help of his brother-in-law Peter.

Soon Robert realized that there was something strange going on. he was familiar with the claims of alien activity in Area 51, for this was shortly after 1987 when the alien interaction scenario was simultaneously exposed by such figures as Bob Lazar, John Lear, William Cooper, Bill Hamilton, Agent Yellow Fruit, George Knapp, Billy Goodman, the late Stacy Borland and others. Robert stated that the same power cult that was operating in Nevada (Groom Lake) seemed to be active in Salt lake City - which according to the late (?) Dulce base security officer Thomas Castello contains an underground base connecting Area 51 and Dulce - Los Alamos.

One night Robert and Peter, following a routine investigation resulting from a bomb threat entered an "off limits" passage in the Crossroads Cinemas area of the mall. Peter had earlier mentioned a "water dept." manhole cover in this - the lowest section of the mall - as being an entrance to the tunnels, but I have reason to believe that there are other access points as well, in this case a locked stairwell behind the right-hand theater, entered through two exit doors on either side of the screen. behind this theater there is a locked door without a label and some steps leading up into a long hallway that connects with the other theaters before it emerges into the underground parking lot or into the main Mall.

Apparently Robert and Pete used the bomb threat as an excuse to enter the sub-basement that they would normally have no business entering. They descended THREE levels below the lowest part of the Mall, emerging into a long hallway leading north.At the far end of the hall were two ancient-looking wooden doors where the sub-basement of the Mormon Temple would be (I heard from elsewhere that there amy be as many as eight levels beneath the Mormon Temple, and over thirty miles of tunnels supposedly built by early leaders of the church).

When the Scottish Rite Mason Brigham Young first entered the Salt Lake Valley he ordered the excavation of a large hole that would later become the sub-basement of the Mormon temple. Then a rumor surfaced that a U.S. Army battalion was headed their way, so Brigham Young ordered the excavation to be filled in until the military had passed through. What was he trying to hide? There are rumors that the Rothschilds and their Masonic Lodge helped finance the Mormon church just as they financed the Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarian and other neo-masonic churches. But this can not be entirely confirmed. It is however written about the Rothschilds cult-network and the "reptilian" connection.

Back to Robert Davis and Pete...they also noticed in the underground hall a door separate from the northern wooden doors, behind which they saw a greenish luminescence. For some reason the thought of opening that door frightened them, so they did not. Brent Butler of Colorado also claimed that he and a friend had seen this underground hall three levels down.

Todd Jumper mentioned something that caught my attention a few years back. While traveling interstate on a bus he had struck up a conversation with a man who out of the blue told him a strange story. he had personal knowledge of a construction worker who was among those who broke into the underground tunnels during the excavation of the Crossroads Cinemas. This worker swore that after entering the tunnels he was attacked by a "lizard" or "serpent" man. he escaped with his life and soon the story was making the rounds. Apparently the "feds" even got involved. I doubt that they called in Agent "Mulder" though.

I've heard variations on this story from elsewhere, some versions mention a temple worker, but the above is the most tangible one that I've heard to date. But of course Robert Davis is the prime source. According to his mother Irvarene, following and a friend of his returned one night to investigate a manhole cover that he had heard about. Whether it was in an alley adjacent to Crossroads or within the loading dock, I'm not certain. After having pulled up the manhole cover with a truck and chain, the two entered an underground passage that intersected with the cities' underground drainage system. They passed an intersection where they had to navigate over a stream of water and continued until they finally emerged into a cement chamber about ten feet square.

In the floor was a metallic trap door which could only be opened from above. They did so, being careful to leave the trap door open. Below was an identical cement cubicle with yet another trap door and below this a similar one. This third room had a long tunnel leading north to a door. Carefully opening the door, just a crack, they peered through into a large underground chamber about 300 feet long, in which they saw "two men in suits and carrying Uzi machine guns, pacing back and forth". Needless to say they beat a hasty retreat back to the third cubicle, but their curiosity getting the better of them they continued downward, to a fourth and then a fifth cubicle. The fifth had a tunnel leading south, into a large cavern.

The most noticeable sight was the large south tunnel, strung with lights and "large enough to drive a semi-truck through". I wonder if this connects with the underground tunnels that are said lie beneath the Trolley Square and Sugarhouse Malls or, possibly, with the massive caverns that lie under the north face of Little Cottonwood Canyon to the south-southeast. MANY sources have referred to the "Granite Mountain" base in Little Cottonwood Canyon, consisting of a huge underground "vault" maintained by the Mormon church, connected by an underground passage to an even larger "military base" to the northeast, where witnesses have reported massive underground construction projects, huge caverns and underground buildings in which CIA agents have been seen working with reptilian Grays on electronic equipment and so on.

Robert Davis also reported that in the cavern he and his friend entered, there was also an apparently bottomless shaft, since they heard no resound when stones were thrown down it. Also there was manhole cover with the initials >Z. carved into it and Robert suspected that this might be a tunnel that led to the "Hogal Zoo" to the east. The strangest sight however were the human-sized footprints in the dust of the chamber, but these prints had only three toes! The two of them returned to the surface and it was only a few days later that Robert heard an unusual story... It seemed that a Hispanic woman who did night-cleaning in the mall had quit. She claimed that while working a creature that she could only describe as a "demon" wobbled up to her, snarled in her face and then continued past her down the hall.

Robert, realizing that he and his friend did NOT close the "trap-doors" when they left the cubicle shaft, was afraid that he. essentially, had been responsible for the incident by inadvertently opening up the door to Hades... There is another admitted "rumor" of a large "Masonic Tunnel" leading from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City. Also Kate Studstrup claimed to have seen reptilian shape shifters in a Nordstrom store in downtown Salt Lake City. In somewhat of an Ickean vein, she described the impostors as tall, lanky blond and with modern "bowl" haircuts. What tipped her off was a conversation she had overheard between the two of them. Also neither of them had any blemishes whatsoever.

Many mornings I've awakened to the faint sounds of screams and cries as if from men, women and children crying out from dungeons underground...with faint memories of horrible nightmares of alien prison camps deep underground where atrocities beyond human comprehension are being carried out. Given the chance, supposing there were a large enough militia force to carry it out, I would gladly take part in an "operation dungeon storm" type of invasion of  the underworld, flame-thrower in one hand and a 9mm semi-automatic in the other as we commence to kick ass and take names. But don't ask me to do it alone! Maybe one day the conditions will be ripe for such a response to the reptilian threat. But unfortunately most people seem to be more interested in talk than action. I can't help but feel it might take a very rude awakening to motivate the masses to respond to the reptilian threat above, within and BELOW. Until then I suppose that the cries and screams of the lost will continue.