|                       Are Ethical ETs Fighting and Dying For Our 
                                Freedom?
                                 
                                
                                By Ed Komarek 
                                
                                
                                4/26/08 
                                
                                
                                My blog: 
                                
                                http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/ 
                                
                                
                                I first began to hear about a war between ET 
                                factions a couple of years ago from my local 
                                contactee sources.  They told me that what had 
                                been a cold war between ET races was now heating 
                                up.  About six months ago I was told that one of 
                                my contact’s female human ET friends had been 
                                wounded in a fight.  Later I heard that this ET 
                                had recovered and was back in action.  Three 
                                months ago I was notified that an all out war 
                                was going on between my contact’s ETs and a 
                                reptilian race.  I don’t know if this includes 
                                the Grays or not.  Recently I heard that for now 
                                this overt battle was being won. 
                                
                                
                                I have not reported on this because I have been 
                                waiting for confirming evidence which I have 
                                just now become aware of.  The UFO/ET activity 
                                over Indiana this spring confirms what I have 
                                been told.  I just read an article by UFO 
                                investigator Bill Knell and I have heard that 
                                this issue has been talked about on Coast to 
                                Coast radio.  This is an issue that we all 
                                should take seriously. 
                                
                                http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=7083 
                                
                                 
                                
                                
                                (Notice that the Air Force is using the 
                                flare explanation in Indiana just like near 
                                Moultrie Georgia where they are dropping flares 
                                to distract from the UFO activity and to 
                                intimidate witnesses. http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/air-force-bombs-civilians-with-flares.html  
                                ) 
                                
                                
                                Investigator Bill Knell had the following to say 
                                about this activity in Indiana,  "Lights similar 
                                to those seen over Phoenix also appeared on 
                                Tuesday and Wednesday (April 14-15, 2008) over 
                                the towns of Kokomo and Logansport in Northern 
                                Indiana. Those lights were accompanied by loud 
                                sounds, an odd metallic odor in the air, the 
                                appearance of military aircraft and debris 
                                falling from the sky. Earlier in the evening on 
                                Wednesday night (April 15, 2008), a fishing boat 
                                captain reported seeing a huge object split into 
                                smaller lights off the coast of Atlantic City, 
                                New Jersey and said that he felt a brief tremor 
                                after that event."  Sure sounds like fighting to 
                                me. 
                                The unexplained craft are back over Phoenix 
                                and the air traffic controllers have been 
                                muzzled. 
                                
                                http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2008/04/air_traffic_controllers_who_sa.php 
                                
                                Clearly a lot is going on 
                                in the sky's over Texas, Arizona and Indiana and 
                                the public and the media do not have a clue as 
                                to what is really happening.  
                                
                                
                                I along with some other investigators think it 
                                highly likely that our society is covertly being 
                                colonized by unethical predatory 
                                extraterrestrials in collaboration with 
                                entrenched special interests.  The way this is 
                                being accomplished is through a super-secret 
                                shadow government unaccountable to legitimate 
                                constitutional government.  While this 
                                infiltration into the secret autocratic halls of 
                                power continues, other extraterrestrials are 
                                fighting and dying for us to remain a free and 
                                independent society.  Of course this would also 
                                be in the ethical ETs interest because the last 
                                thing they need are more societies like ours 
                                colonized and fighting against them.  
                                 
                                
                                
                                Our misdirected military continues to attack and 
                                harass friendly ETs at the behest of the shadow 
                                government and their unethical ET allies because 
                                they won’t cooperate in the colonization 
                                process.  The ethical ETs will only collaborate 
                                extensively with legitimate constitutional 
                                democratic government in a publicly open and 
                                transparent manner.  The friendly ETs want a 
                                earth civilization that is free and independent 
                                like themselves. 
                                
                                
                                I realize that this kind of talk is more than 
                                many people can stomach but I just hope we all 
                                wake up in time to avert a very real societal 
                                catastrophe. Our world is evidence to how 
                                unprepared most indigenous societies were as to 
                                threats from European colonists.  By the time 
                                the indigenous societies realized that the 
                                unbelievable was really happening it was all 
                                over and they had become colonized.  After 
                                colonization and tremendous devastation it took 
                                centuries for many of these peoples to become 
                                free of colonial rule.  Some societies never 
                                could recover and were incorporated into the 
                                colonial society like the American Indians. 
                                
                                
                                If this is warfare between ET races and it seems 
                                that way to me, there is reason for hope.  I 
                                think that what this means is that the tide is 
                                turning down here on the ground and people 
                                inside and outside of government are catching on 
                                to what is happening.  My guess is that this is 
                                forcing the unethical ETs cooperating with our 
                                unethical shadow government to try to bring in 
                                reinforcements and that has been thwarted.  Only 
                                time will tell if this interpretation of events 
                                is correct.   
                                
                                
                                One thing is certain and that is that the public 
                                is being deceived as to what is really going on 
                                all over this planet.  Evidence of 
                                extraterrestrial reality is pouring in every day 
                                from all over the world and  people can see that 
                                for themselves if they would just do some 
                                investigating on the Internet.   
                                
                                
                                ~~~~~~~~~~~
          
       
                                In a follow-up, Ed wrote: 
           
          For instance since I published this piece yesterday I have contacted 
          Franklin Fields and Jeff Adams both who have contactee friends and 
          both contactees are confirming what I have to say here. Altogether we 
          have 6-7 confirming sources of information saying the same thing that 
          the ETs are now at war. 
           
          We believe the ethical ETs have decided to disclose because the shadow 
          government has failed to do so. My guess is that the unethical 
          predatory ETs are losing the battle for covert infiltration into our 
          society as we catch on to the game and are trying to shore up their 
          position by bringing in reinforcements from space. Lucky for us it 
          seems the ethical ETs are in the winning position. 
           
          If you are just a analyst behind a computer without good intelligence 
          roots you are not going to be able to keep up and you won't believe 
          what you are hearing from the field. A good analyst needs a good 
          working relationship with intelligence agents in the field and also 
          much field experience too. 
         
           
          As far as the motives behind these ethical ETs fighting for our 
          freedom, well you just have to get to know them.
            
          Many of the contactees we are now working with have got to know them 
          over many years. The ones most interested in us are not that far 
          advanced else why would they be interested and fighting on our behalf 
          or against us? 
           
          Sure they live to be 800 years old and older but it won't be long 
          before we figure out the aging process ourself etc. etc. 
           
          If you had good intelligence field network you would not be saying the 
          things you do. 
         
           
                                As far as a question as to how much time we have. Ready or not here 
          they come.  
          We don't have any time, disclosure is upon us. And I am willing to bet 
          source A does not know any better than we do. 
           
          Many of us have spent years getting prepared even lifetimes of 
          preparation. I for instance have spent years working up my blog as a 
          briefing that anybody anytime can access over the Internet. I believe 
          I am accurately providing a rough outline of the current situation so 
          that others can build upon what I have learned and can move things 
          forward rapidly. 
           
          Open Minds is the best platform for gathering, analysis and 
          distribution to the public that I have found on the net. The people 
          here are high caliber and catch on fast. I have high hopes for OM. I 
          like the team approach of people working together in a network with 
          not one or more people trying to autocraticly control the 
          organization. The people here are also activist and that is very 
          important because we don't have time for other approaches. 
           
          Ed 
                                ~~~~~~~~~ 
                                In a number of threads, people 
                                are discussing a possible war in space, going on 
                                as we speak. 
                                 
                                The topic was mentioned in the UFO sighting in 
                                Erath County 
                                (
                                
                                http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index....d=2325&page=159 
                                ) 
                                as well as in the thread on the UN Meeting: 
                                (
                                
                                http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index....ad=2468&page=82 
                                ) 
                                 
                                About half a year ago, we had a similar 
                                discussion, I'll include links to that in a 
                                later post. 
                                 
                                Anyway, I thought the topic was worthy of its 
                                own thread. 
                                 
  
      
                                
                                
                                From Garuda; 
         What bothers me about these reports is 
                                that these dogfights are happening in plain 
                                view, for all to see, and in countries like the 
                                US and Australia. 
                                 
                                It reminds me of Carol Rosin's warning that the 
                                MIC will organize a false flag operation to 
                                justify spending billions on new weapons 
                                programmes, to defend ourselves from attacks 
                                from extraterrestrials. 
                                 
                                Or it could be that several ET groups are 
                                involved, but then we also have to take the 
                                possibility into account of a 'false dichotomy': 
                                it could be possible that these fights, in plain 
                                view, are only meant to make us believe that 
                                there is a war going on, and that we will be 
                                presented a choice to team up with either 
                                group... while in reality, if we peel one more 
                                layer of the onion, we could find out that it's 
                                the same groups who were only staging the 
                                fights... 
                                 
                                Something does not feel 
                                right about these dogfights... There's more 
                                going on than meets the eye! 
                                
       
                                Also see: 
                                 
                                Source:
                                
                                
                                http://perceval.netfirms.com/sessions/940730.html 
                                Background:
                                
                                http://quantumfuture.net 
                                 
                                ~~~~~~~~~~ 
                       
                      
                      
                      Yesterday at 11:02am,
                      
                      garuda wrote:
                              
                               
                              Something does not feel right about these 
                              dogfights... There's more going on than meets the 
                              eye!
                       
                      Montalk says: 
                       
                      I feel the same, although the
                      
                      1561 Nuremberg Sightings suggest that genuine visible 
                      UFO dogfights can take place without political 
                      motivation, because back then there was no military 
                      industrial complex and no alien acclimatization program.
                       
                       
                      Some possibilities regarding these recent rumors of space 
                      wars: 
                       
                      a) battle between friendly and hostile aliens 
                      b) infighting among hostile alien factions 
                      c) battle between friendly aliens and military 
                      d) battle between hostile aliens and military 
                      e) hoax by military to mimic hostile alien invasion 
                      f) hoax by impostor friendlies to mimic hostile alien 
                      invasion 
                      g) new levels of visibility of always-ongoing battles in 
                      parallel dimension 
                       
                      I think all these possibilities have manifested somewhere 
                      at some time. There is so much at stake in this highly 
                      charged exopolitical atmosphere that (e) and (f) cannot be 
                      ruled out. And if those two possibilities are indeed 
                      manifest, then instead of being evidence of predatory ETs 
                      losing -- as would be the intended impression of the psyop 
                      -- it would be evidence of them proceeding as planned with 
                      their covert infiltration. It depends on how hokey the 
                      sighting is, and toward what ends it is spun. Possibility 
                      (g) will become more manifest in the coming years as well. 
                       
                      It's just that when a spate of these things happen for all 
                      to see and conveniently timed to match what only a few 
                      high profile abductees or contactees have been told, that 
                      it starts looking more like a false flag operation. 
                      Especially if the evidence to support (a) and (c) are 
                      striking but narrowly range-bound to what is 
                      within the ability of military / alien to counterfeit.  
                       
                      In my experience, indicators of a genuine interdimensional 
                      alien space war should fall outside the range of 
                      hoaxability and have side effects showing up in your own 
                      life (if you are invested in alien affairs and vice 
                      versa). I noticed that what happens "up there" reflects 
                      "down here" and vice versa, probably due to the battles 
                      extending into the hyper-dimensional. One example is you 
                      and several others you know all having dreams of alien 
                      space battles around the same time, coupled with severe 
                      weather disasters in the geographic region, and a dramatic 
                      increase in "reality weirdness," highly improbable 
                      accidents and injuries, and negative entity attacks. By 
                      that standard, "alien space war" has been active for a 
                      long time, and the battles and skirmishes happen in 
                      clusters with periods of inactivity. 
                    
       
                    
      
                                Ed answers:
       
                                Montalk, I am beginning to 
                                wonder if this may filter down to a war between 
                                various factions in the military, those that 
                                support legitimate constitutional government 
                                fighting against those that support shadow 
                                government.  
                                 
                                I am thinking that when people in these lower 
                                level working groups in the military catch on to 
                                what the shadow government is really up too the 
                                fighting may spread from ETs down to us. 
                                 
                                I was told by contactee friends that this 
                                fighting is not just for this planet but at 
                                least two other planetary civilizations are 
                                involved as well. The ethical ETs have said that 
                                other planetary civilizations have been lost to 
                                these unethical types and it would seem that our 
                                planet is on the battle line and a cold war 
                                between ET races is turning hot very quickly. 
                                 
                                I agree we could experience fallout from this 
                                very rapidly if this is true and things are 
                                coming to a head. 
                                 
                                Ed 
                                 
         
        Indiana - 
        Flap  
        
        
          
        
        
        INDIANAPOLIS – 
        William Puckett reports, strange 
        sights and sounds filled the nighttime sky in Howard and Tipton counties 
        late Wednesday night April 16, 2008, leaving residents and authorities 
        wondering what they had seen and heard. Reports of lights in the sky, 
        crashes and vibrations on the ground baffled residents, who began 
        calling authorities right after the rumblings at about 10:30 p.m. 
          
        
          
         
      
      
        
        WESTFIELD –Tonight, 
        April 16 2008 at about 10:37 PM, my brother, our friend, and I witnessed 
        something that was not manmade. We live in Central 
        Indiana and I was looking north a little northwest and saw these bright 
        lights come into view. They were rotating in a counter 
        clockwise direction. It wasn't fire. These were lights 
        because you could see each light. We all kind of looked 
        at it for about a minute and a half and then boom! It 
        just took off and vanished. We called the local police department and 
        reported it, and then we called the local news. They had calls flooding 
        in. So we watched the news and they reported that something shot out of 
        this UFO, and that a plane was down and that there was a huge explosion 
        or a sonic boom. Later on at the end of the program they said that 
        nothing was down and no planes were missing. What I witnessed tonight 
        changed the way I look at the sky. Weather: Few 
        Clouds At 25,000 Feet. Visibility Was 10 Miles. Winds Were From the 
        South at 9 MPH. 
        
        
          
        
        Whatever I was looking at was not no way no 
        how anything man made. The area that the news reported 
        it happened was over 20 miles away. This thing was HUGE because we could 
        see it perfectly. Anyway I don't know what reporting this event might 
        do. More than likely nothing, but I know that it wasn't manmade. I'm 
        sure the government is already covering it up. They are already 
        starting to say that it may have been military flares. No WAY!!! NO HOW!
        These were in a perfect line and rotating. 
        The location of the sighting was Tipton County and State Road 31 
        intersecting with Country Road 300. That is where they reported it 
        happening. Something happened and I am now, I think, a believer.
         
        
        Comments: What 
        these witnesses have reported and what the news media reported are 
        certainly dichotomous. These witnesses say that they saw rotating lights 
        followed by an explosion. The media (via police reports) explained the 
        explosion as due to meteors. (Click 
        here to read news story from WISH-TV 
        - PDF.) Given this witness report a meteor or military flares seems like 
        quite an unlikely explanation. Anyone seeing these lights is urged to
        
        file a report. 
        Please send any photos, videos, or sketches of your observations. 
        
        Thanks to William  Puckett 
        UFOS Northwest 
        
        http://ufosnw.com  
      
       
      
        
      
      
        
        TIPTON COUNTY -- On 
        April 16, 2008,  I was in the living room watching TV, about 10:30 p.m., 
        there was a huge boom that rattled the front window. My husband asked 
        what the noise was, and I went to the front door to see. Off to the west 
        there appeared a large object with lights all the way across it. It 
        reminded me of a hair barrette with lights. It seemed to be hovering, 
        yet the lights appeared to turn. My husband came out to stand behind me 
        just in time to see the lights reappear from right to left until five 
        lights were showing, and then it did it for a second time before it 
        disappeared. The lights were yellow orange in color. 
        
        
          
        
         If you look on
        
        www.WWKI.com , click on the 
        article about the Boom and the bright lights, you will see pictures that 
        someone submitted. The fourth picture down is exactly what I saw when I 
        first looked out. This was no meteor or F-16, they don't hover. We could 
        not take our eyes off of it, and my husband, who is a Viet Nam veteran 
        and a retired deputy sheriff said he had never seen anything like it. 
        Thanks to MUFON CMS 
        
        
          
        
        TIPTON 
        COUNTY --  
        Another person writes, "There is a Big Coverup going on here in Indiana. 
        Too many people are seeing UFO's and Military Jets, and Booms that shake 
        houses, ground shaking earthquakes and objects falling from the sky. Is 
        there a battle going on between UFOs and Military aircraft? Or are there 
        just objects falling out of the sky and hitting the ground so hard it 
        feels like an earthquake?   
        
        
        
        http://www.theindychannel.com/news/15907638/detail.html 
         
        
        
        
        http://www.theindychannel.com/news/15921725/detail.html#
         
        Look around you will find reports all over the Place.  
        Its on all the news channels. Thanks to MUFON CMS  
      
      
      
        
      
      
        
        
        
        F-16 Blacksnakes Fighter Wing 
   
      
      
        
        
        
        ANDERSON -- 
        I was driving and I saw what looked like 
        something large on fire in the sky.   I actually slowed down to watch 
        and I noticed the cars around me did as well. But I was sure I was going 
        to watch something fall out of the sky and crash in the distance, but it 
        just disappeared. It looked like something large on fire almost skipping 
        (as if on land).   I kept waiting to see an explosion or something in 
        the distance but it was just gone. I got online tonight to see if anyone 
        else had seen it too or if there was a meteor reported but I'm just at a 
        loss ?
         
          
        
        
        Brian 
        Vike reports, "The Indiana Air National Guard claims it was carrying out 
        exercises, and that is why there are all these reports. Well this may 
        be, but I sure have learned not to take everything at face value.  Was 
        there an unknown craft in the area and possible pursuit by the military 
        aircraft? Thanks to Brian Vike, 
        Director HBCC UFO Research 
        
        http://www.hbccufo.org 
          
        
          
        
        
        Depiction of Craft 
           
      
      
        
        Editor's Note: Assuming 
        the witnesses all saw the same thing, some were close to the actual 
        craft that appears to have been disk shaped with multiple lights.  
        Military fighters were launched and participating in an exercise and 
        were called on to pursue the intruder. When I was in the Air Force we 
        would be asked to intercept an unknown to identify as friendly or foe. 
        The 122nd Fighter Wing known as the Blacksnakes at Fort Wayne airport 
        shown below is equipped with F-16s and probably conducted an intercept. 
        
           
        
        According to Glen Means MUFONs 
        State Section Director of the effected counties several witnesses saw a 
        huge circular craft smoking and leaving vapor trail just after a huge 
        explosion. For more information and an excellent detailed report go to
         
        
        
        www.ufofiler.com 
      
        
        
        ~~~~~~~~~ 
          
            Dick 
            Criswell has posted an "Urgent News 4-17-08" alert on his IPUS 
            Network homepage about the so-called "UFO dogfight" over Indiana: 
             
            "APRIL 17, 2008 in TIPTON CO. 
            KOKOMO, IN. around 1 am, 200 residents, reported that they heard 
            a loud explosion & some of the residents reported seeing 7 to 12 
            objects in the sky, we at I.P.U.S. have several people in the area 
            working on this report. HOMELAND SECURITY, also say they are 
            checking it out as well.  
             
            We will keep you posted, on this situation.... (cont)" 
             
            The alert also says that 'one caller has a video that he will be 
            sending us. We will be posting that video on the website'. So far, I 
            don't see a video on the website, and it's 10 days later... I'm not 
            holding my breath for it. 
             
            Anyway, if you're interested in reading the entire alert, it can be 
            read at 
            
            http://www.ipusnetwork.com/IPUS/eurgent%2004-07-08.pdf   | 
           
         
          
      
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Report #2 from Ed Komarek 
                                             
                            I have other 
                            articles up at my blog if anybody is interested.   
                            
                            
                            Jim 
                            Magee doing a final editing of my free ebook that I 
                            will hopefully be able to self publish at a cost 
                            cheaper than a download.  I am also looking  for 
                            folks that might be willing to volunteer to 
                            translate the book into other languages especially 
                            Spanish because so much is going on down in South 
                            America and I want to network into that. 
                            
                            
                            I do not 
                            intend to profit from any of this and any money that 
                            I might make from self publishing would be plowed 
                            back into expenses, distribution of my material and 
                            investigation of cases.  I realize that am bending 
                            over backward to ensure that there will be no 
                            conflict of interest between making money and my 
                            work but I feel inclined to hold myself to a high 
                            standard in regards to my extraterrestrial 
                             activities.   
                            
                            
                            I don't feel I 
                            should be making money off of something that others 
                            are volunteering free of charge as a gift to 
                            society.  I also want to insure the most extensive 
                            and rapid distribution of my work as I feel very 
                            strongly that higher consciousness is all about flow 
                            and removal of restrictions to flow.  
                            
                            
                            Ed 
                            
                            
                            Are ETs 
                            Fighting and Dying for Our Freedom? (Part 2) 
                            
                            
                            By Ed Komarek 
                            
                            
                            5/01/08 
                            
                            
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                            http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/ 
                            
                            
                            In part one of 
                            this article series I brought up the subject as to 
                            wither extraterrestrials were fighting in space and 
                            even occasionally in our atmosphere.  
                            
                            
                            
                            http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ed_komar_080424_are_ethical_ets_figh.htm  
                            
                            
                            I had heard 
                            about this from contactee friends and when I heard 
                            about witness testimony from Indiana I decided to 
                            stick my neck out and do an article.  As usual I 
                            take some heat for going out on a limb without a 
                            pile of solid evidence to back up my case.  What 
                            folks need to know is that over the years I have 
                            become quite good at gathering information through a 
                            tried and true investigative technique.  It’s called 
                            shake the tree and see what falls out.  
                             
                            
                            
                            The Open Minds 
                            Forum opened up a thread called War in Space and as 
                            I had hoped more very interesting cases were posted 
                            to the thread.  
                            
                            
                            http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=futuretalk&action=display&thread=2595&page=1 
                             
                            
                            
                            The 
                            following case I found on the OM thread from  
                            Kelowna , British Columbia region on July 2, 2007. 
                            
                            
                            
                            http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/36243 
                            
                            
                            Numerous 
                            eyewitnesses in different parts of Kelowna saw a 
                            cylinder shaped craft, with what looked like fins on 
                            it, and on fire, ripped down through the sky and 
                            finally hitting the water on Okanagan Lake , British 
                            Columbia . The sound was incredibly loud and like a 
                            deep bass "womp, womp, womp" sound as it came down. 
                            The same object then reappeared from where it hit 
                            the lake, rose up and then sat and hovered in the 
                            sky.  
                            
                            
                            Meanwhile a 
                            cone or "possible" triangular shaped craft was 
                            stationary a short distance away from the cylinder 
                            shaped craft. What took place next dumbfounded all 
                            of the people who had watched the event unfold, the 
                            two objects started reacting to one another, and the 
                            best description given from the witnesses was like 
                            looking at tracer fire from automatic weapons, or in 
                            other words it was like the two UFOs were shooting 
                            at one another. After a short time of exchanging 
                            what looked like the two craft were firing on one 
                            another, a loud bang was heard and the cone shaped 
                            craft was nowhere to be seen.  
                            
                            
                            The torpedo 
                            shaped object was still hovering in the sky. It 
                            started moving from side to 
                            side and then a loud sonic boom and it was now gone. 
                            Needless to say, some witnesses screamed loudly or 
                            when watching had their jaw almost hit the ground 
                            from watching such an unusual event unfold in front 
                            of their eyes. 
                            
                            
                            I found the 
                            following 1989 Battle of the Saucers in Russia from 
                            a word search on the Internet.  
                            
                            
                            http://ufos.about.com/od/ufofolkloremythlegend/p/battle1989.htm 
                            
                            
                            Subbotin claims that 
                            hundred of people watched the group of six silver 
                            saucers fight against one golden UFO. The UFOs all 
                            made incredible moves in the skies-at times flying 
                            as low as 5,000 feet, giving a good view to 
                            onlookers. Beams of red light constituted the weapon 
                            of choice. 
                            
                            
                            Witnesses who 
                            were interviewed by Sichenko claimed that the 
                            outnumbered golden UFO was finally defeated, 
                            although giving a gallant effort. The defeated UFO 
                            lost altitude, finally crashing to the ground. The 
                            six victorious UFOs disappeared into the clouds. 
                            Subbotin claims that the golden UFO crashed into a 
                            bog on a military test range, and the area was zoned 
                            off to everyone except military  
                            
                            
                            I received an 
                            email from Jannice about a person who saw a UFO 
                            dogfight:       
                            
                            
                            “Approximately 
                            25 years ago the grandmother of my sons best friend 
                            watched an ariel dog fight between ufos. it was way 
                            up in the sky. she saw ufos explode. there was a lot 
                            more detail but I do not remember it.” 
                            
                            
                            Of course this 
                            fighting between extraterrestrial groups is nothing 
                            new and can be found in religious texts from around 
                            the world.  Folks on the OM thread presented the  
                            Nuremberg  sighting as further evidence of 
                            extraterrestrial conflict.       
                            
                            
                            http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case486.htm 
                            
                            At sunrise on 
                            the 14th April 1561, the citizens of Nuremberg 
                            beheld "A very frightful spectacle." The sky 
                            appeared to fill with cylindrical objects from which 
                            red, black, orange and blue white disks and globes 
                            emerged. Crosses and tubes resembling cannon barrels 
                            also appeared whereupon the objects promptly "began 
                            to fight one another." This event is depicted in a 
                            famous 16th century woodcut by Hans Glaser. 
                            
                            It would seem 
                            there is considerable evidence for extraterrestrial 
                            conflict after all and this evidence tends to 
                            support the contactee evidence.  It could really be 
                            that extraterrestrials have been recently fighting 
                            over the future of earth.   This could very well 
                            lead to fighting amongst different factions within 
                            the military that have very different 
                            extraterrestrial alliances and agendas.  Let’s hope 
                            the ethical factions both terrestrial and 
                            extraterrestrial come out on top. 
                            
                            
          
        
      
      
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