the Government Really Knows
Interview by Jean-Noel Bassior
published in Hustler magazine's November 2005 issue.
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than 50 years, shadowy government agencies have
information about extraterrestrials and the use of E.T.
In 1998 Dr.
Steven M. Greer resigned his post as Chairman of
Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in
North Carolina to spend all his time and energy on
exposing a massive corporate-government coverup of
extraterrestrial contact that's been kept under wraps
for decades. Why does this matter? It's not so much the
dozens of deceased aliens secreted at Fort Huachuca in
Arizona, Greer says, or even the supersecret radionic
technology that took the life of his assistant and two
colleagues and nearly killed him. It's not even the
prototypes of UFOs that roam the Southwest's friendly
skies, looking so much like real E.T. craft that it's
hard to tell the difference. (Your tax dollars at work.)
important, Greer insists, is that if the government came
clean with what it knows about E.T. technology, we could
upgrade the planet. Not only would we wean ourselves off
oil and other fossil fuels, but we could scrap nuclear
power and implement clean, cheap, safe energy that any
country or culture could afford. One problem: That might
weaken or topple the corporate-government power
structure that controls our fuel and energy systems,
mass-produces war weapons and keeps a tight rein on the
global economy. So how to shine a light on a shadowy
consortium that promotes war while fostering scarcity,
making gas prices astronomic?
Crozet, Virginia, Greer's Disclosure Project has
convinced hundreds of insiders, including military brass
and CIA ops, to defy nondisclosure pacts. They've
coughed up documents (some still classified) and signed
testimonials. Greer's got it all -- in fact, he gave
Peter Jennings's producers access to these bombshell
revelations for the ABC special on UFOs that aired last
spring. But, as the good doctor found out, you can't
give this stuff to the mainstream media and expect it to
air on prime time. "They won't let us do it," a senior
producer told Greer by phone. "I said,'Who's They?'"
Greer recalls. "And he said 'Dr. Greer, you know who
they are.' And click, he hung up."
Steven Greer speak about the Peter Jennings show to
George Noory on
So why not
get these documents to the President of the United
States? Been there, done that. "Hillary and Bill spent
hours poring over them," Greer claims a close friend of
the Clintons reported, adding that when Clinton took
office, he wanted two questions answered: Who killed
Jack Kennedy? and What's going on with the UFOs? It
didn't take long for Clinton to realize, says Greer's
friend, that he had a much better chance of completing
his term if he followed his own "Don't ask, don't tell"
Greer held a press conference at which many witnesses
came forward, but it was eclipsed by 9/11. Since then
he's gathered more insiders willing to reveal what the
government won't. So if you're tired of holding hands
with the Saudis, or you think it's time Earthlings had
access to that cool, antigravity technology that allows
UFOs to dodge our weapons (most of the time), check out
your pocketbook, not about little green men," says
Greer, who wants to replace fossil fuel and nuclear
power with the advanced energy systems used by E.T.'s.
Where do you get that? "Just ask the government,"Greer
replies. "They've had it for 50 years."
may not want to listen, but we certainly do.
When did you see your first UFO?
M. Greer: Back in the early 1960s, when I was eight or
nine. Some neighborhood boys and I saw a disc-shaped,
windowless object that hovered, silent, then simply
vanished. My parents said, "That's very nice" and
ignored it, but I knew what I'd seen, and it was
you leave medicine to focus on the UFO coverup full
In 1990 I
learned that NATO and the Belgian Air Force were
tracking an enormous triangular craft -- about 800 feet
in diameter -- and it reignited my interest. I went
there and actually saw the F-16 fighter jet radar tape
of a massive UFO hovering, then accelerating at several
thousand miles per hour -- way outside the envelope of
what any man-made object could do.
seen a UFO at close range?
team and I had one of these massive triangles come down
right over our car. It was vibrating on top and sounded
like an enormous transformer -- a deep, low-frequency
hum. The most dramatic thing we've seen is a
near-landing in England, in 1992, where we had a
100-foot diameter disc in front of us about ten feet
above the ground, signalling and communicating. There
were people on board.
team ever established contact with an E.T. Spacecraft?
In the early
1990's a BBC recording crew picked up a series of
beeping tones [from a UFO]. We recorded that, and we fed
it back out. For all we know, it's their trash
compactor, but we figure that if they see humans sending
their signal back to them, they'll identify it as
communication. In Pensacola, Florida, we signaled [a UFO
craft] with high- powered lights and lasers -- and they
signaled back to us! We have this on videotape. We go to
areas where these objects have been seen; so we're not
just sitting in our backyard.
a shred of evidence that these UFOs or the life-forms
behind them are a threat or hostile to us. There is a
lot of evidence that some rogue military projects have
done foolish and dangerous things that have been
agressive toward them.
government concealed E.T. vehicles and bodies?
several dozen extraterrestrial vehicles and dozens of
deceased [E.T.] life-forms of various races. Some are
stored in an underground facility near Fort Huachuca in
programs developing E.T. technology?
Yes. We can
prove, through the testimony of dozens of witnesses,
that there have been covert programs that have studied
and figured out the energy and propulsion systems behind
UFOs. We're talking about a whole new type of physics
that would enable humans to generate energy from what's
called the "quantum vacuum."
this energy work?
baseline level of energy that's in all the space around
us -- not outer space, but the space in this
room. It's estimated that every cubic centimeter of
space here has enough energy to run the entire Earth for
a day. This can be tapped. Some scientists are trying to
fabricate motors that extract energy from the quantum
vacuum, the energy that surrounds us.
You mean the
space between atoms?
"zero point" energy. I've actually seen one of these
[devices] working. Of course, the inventor has been
threatened. Dr. Eugene Mallove, who was murdered in May
, and I were working on this. I'm carrying it
forward, but it's high-risk. [for more on Dr. Mallove
and cold-fusion technology, check out
are we to harnessing this energy?
close. There are people with "proof of principle"
things, but no products for sale yet. Right now we're
working with an inventor who has created energy from
this quantum vacuum in the hundreds of watts range --
enough to run several things in your home. We can also
demonstrate the antigravity effects of high-voltage
systems under certain controlled experiments.
electronic field makes something fairly weightless.
We're working with a man who's done very advanced
antigravity work. The colonel who classified it is
willing to declassify it for us to take forward.
an object weightless?
this done in a lab. The techniques for tapping this
energy have already been fully developed within rogue
and covert programs. Lockheed Skunkworks has enormous
ships zipping around that are [powered by] antigravity.
A lot of the UFOs sighted in the high desert of
California and Utah are actually manmade prototypes.
Who else is
making these phony UFOs?
companies involved are SAIC [Science Applications
International Corporation], TRW, Northrop, Raytheon and
EG&G. We have enormous intelligence on this. I know the
buildings where this stuff is going on. This needs to
come out so people know the truth.
Does our tax
money support these secret programs, or are they
There's private, corporate funding as well as what's
called "black budget" sources. I met with Senator Robert
C. Byrd's staff in 1994. His senior investigator and
chief counsel for the Senate Appropriations Committee,
for which he was chairman at the time, told me that this
stuff was real, [but that] they could not penetrate this
black world dealing with UFOs. At that time between $40
billion and $100 billion a year was going into these
projects, and they could not trace the money.
these programs kept secret?
and the nuclear power industries would be made redundant
by these technologies that very elegantly extract energy
from the quantum vacuum, or "zero point" energy field.
We have a $7 trillion part of the world economy dealing
with fossil fuels and conventional transportation. If
this information comes out - aside from people realizing
that we're not alone in the universe - they'll quickly
see that we don't need oil, coal or central utilities.
It's all about maintaining the homeostasis and status
quo of the world macro-economic and power dynamic.
zero-point energy transform the global economy?
replace everything. You wouldn't need oil, but the $30
trillion-a-year global economy would quickly grow to
$200 trillion because there'd be clean, sustainable
energy, and manufacturing and transportation would be
very inexpensive. Eighty percent of the world's
population lives in amazing poverty, and it would lift
that. It would revolutionize the planet. People talk
about the "peace dividend," but it's time for a "space
these advanced energy systems from the public?
that runs this stuff is the world's largested RICO
[Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization]. They
used to be called MJ - Majestic - 12 - but the last term
I heard was PI-40. It's not one society. There are
sweeping conspiracy theories about the Masons,
Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission and Counsel of
Foreign Relations. I know people in all these entities,
and most of them couldn't find their ass in a
well-lighted room. It's much more prosaic and nuanced
Why do they
decentralize power. Right now the centralized financial
and oil system is so integrated with the way the world
runs. We have testimony about what the agenda is from
people who've been on the inside.
this covert group?
committee of 200 to 300 people who are on the policy
board for this issue. Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who went
from head of the National Security Agency to the board
of SAIC - which is one of the crown jewels of this
covert entity - is a member. So is Admiral Harry Trane.
George Bush Sr., Cheney and Rumsfeld are involved, as is
the Liechtenstein banking family. The Mormon corporate
empire has an enormous interest in this subject; they
have much more power than the White house or the
Pentagon over this issue. And there are secret cells
withing the Vatican.
Have you met
with any of these people?
factions within this group, and I've met with some of
the "good guys." People think that it's a monolithic
conspiracy, but they're wrong. About 40% to 50% of
people involved in these supersecret projects want this
stuff out. They know we're running out of oil, China is
industrializing, and the polar ice caps are melting. And
they know that if this [advanced E.T. technology] was
announced today, it would take ten to 20 years to get it
into widespread application to avert an economic,
strategic, geopolitical and environmental catastrophe.
They see that and want to fix it, but they're still a
minority. They're more enlightened, but it's the
ruthless ones who rule.
Director William Colby involved at some point? Was his
"accidental" death in 1996 connected to your work?
was defecting from the supersecret group, and he was
assassinated because he was going to transfer some hard
technologies - operating devices - and $50 million in
funding to us. He knew that with my kind of willpower
and connections, I would have gotten that out to the
world. He was found floating down the Potomac River the
week he was going to meet with my closest friend. They
made an example of him.
Colby's best friend, a colonel who set up the meeting,
said it was absolutely a hit. Even his wife said on CNN,
"You know, it was strange, because he would never go out
canoeing in a flooded, rain-swollen Potomac River at
night and leave the house open and the coffeemaker and
the computer on. That's not like Bill Colby at all."
widow stopped short of calling it murder.
have said, "Play along, or your children are next." I
mean, these people are thugs.
life been threatened?
time] Colby was killed, my right-hand assistant, a
member of Congress who was working very closely with us
and myself all got a deadly type of cancer in the same
month -- different kinds. I don't talk about this
publicly much because people say, "Come on!" But it
absolutely can be done, it was done, and everyone died
but me. I was devastated, and it took me 18 months to
saying the UFO-coverup conspirators can target people
from a distance and produce cancer?
Dr. Tom Bearden's books about
the scalar electromagnetic weapons systems explain how
longitudinal waveforms can be a carrier wave for this
kind of thing. They can get it down to a cell, to your
DNA. It's all resonance. We've had this technology since
Do you have
witnesses willing to step forward and reveal what they
know about this massive coverup?
about 450 military and government "insiders" who have
been present during rather undeniable events, including
the study of these energy and propulsion systems.
Witness Testimony Overview - "The Greatest Secret in
Modern History" - excerpts
from Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses
Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History by
Steven M. Greer, MD.
Do you have
We have a
number of smoking gun documents, including a wiretap of
Marilyn Monroe the day before she died, which has never
been declassified. She was threatening to hold a press
conference to tell the world what Jack Kennedy had told
her during pillow talk about having seen debris from an
extraterrestrial vehicle at what the document calls a
"secret air base." She was murdered for this.
the mainstream media covering this?
problem is the media. If a congressman starts looking
into this, they get pilloried and ridiculed by the
media. There's a CIA document [Click
here for PDF file of this document.]
from 1991 that clearly states that the Agency had
contacts or resources at every major media outlet to
kill, spin or stop stories. It's a canard that we have a
free press. Also, people can't wrap their minds around
it. A former editor at the Boston Globe told me,
"This is just too far-out. And even if it's true, we'd
never run it because it's associated with tabloids and
the lunatic fringe."
these people put 24/7 coverage on what I call "the
blowjob heard 'round the world." And I can say that
in HUSTLER. The media will spend millions for satellite
trucks and onsite reporters to cover freak shows like
the O.J. Simpsons or Michael Jackson trials.
Why is the
UFO issue so urgent?
how we live our lives. Aside from cleaning up the
environment, it [E.T. technology] extricates us from our
dependency on oil, gets us out of that Middle East mess
and saves the average American household thousands of
dollars a year in heating, utilities and gas for their
cars. And, globally, it frees up enormous amounts of
economic potential. This would be the tide that raises
How do you
keep going in the face of so much mainstream resistance?
It's a sort
of Promethean challenge. Lawrence Rockefeller once told
me, "It's wonderful that you're going to do this, and
it's so important. But I'm afraid you're going to be the
court jester, that people won't take this seriously."
And I said, "Well, we at least have to try."
How will you
publicize your information?
on two fronts. One is technology, working through SEAS
[Space Energy Access Systems, Inc.] at SeasPower.com.
That's the corporate side for the technology and
research we're doing. The second is identifying funding
support for the next phase - a much larger press and
media presence with new witnesses, particularly those
involved with advanced technologies.
factor has been funding. If I were to claim aliens had
raped me, I'd have a multimillion-dollar movie deal.
Doing something serious, there's hardly any money
available. They talk about morality and who's [having
sex with] whom, but real morality is being concerned
with these issues.
What do our
extraterrestrial visitors want?
they're waiting for us to grow up and quit destroying
Earth and each other. That may be the entry requirement
for joining the interplanetary club, and we're just not
there yet. That's the biggest challenge for the human
hopeful about the future?
hopeful. In fact, I have no doubt that the outcome will
be peaceful, that these technologies will completely
rehabilitate Earth's fortunes and environment, and
eliminate poverty. And it will happen in our lifetimes.
But the question is, how much madness has to go on
between now and then?
Bassior has written for Redbook, Parade and other
publications. The lifeliong sci-fi fan's book 'Space
Patrol: Missions of Daring in the Name of Early
Television' has recently been published by McFarland.