The Path of Planet X


Researcher Dr. Jaysen Q. Rand discussed the arrival of Planet X, on an interview with George Noory on and described an object he said is somewhere in size between Saturn and Earth's moon. The body, which may be part of a brown dwarf star, is due to swing our way between 2009 and 2012, possibly in two passes, he detailed.

Rand had just returned from Russia, where he met with Col. Marina Popovich and her ex-husband General Pavel Popovich, both of whom he said were aware of the coming of Planet X and its potential destructive consequences. We can expect the intensifying of bad weather-- the current Midwest flooding will get worse, he warned. This will be followed by earthquakes that could take apart major West Coast cities, he added.

Planet X is probably pushing and pulling a debris field along with it, which could cause further problems such as dislodging asteroids, stated Rand. He believes that Planet X is the same as Wormwood, written about in the Book of Revelation. Further, he said the 3rd Secret of Fatima warned of a "giant pestilence that comes from heaven" that would cripple and destroy the papacy. Rand also announced the launching of Project Blue Light, a re-creation/continuation of the Government's infamous Project Blue Book to study UFO/ET phenomena.




From: Subject: UFOexperiences: AN INTERVIEW WITH 'HENRY DEACON' Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007


This blog has been created to inform the public about the UFO = subject. It  also contains peripheral phenomena. Created by Aileen Garoutte, = previously- Director of The UFO Contact Center International.

Sunday, October 08, 2006


Some of you may have read this already = but for those that do not receive mail from a Yahoo Group I think it will be very enlightening. - Aileen

This interview was transcribed from video as the interviewee expressed a wish to remain = anonymous ('Henry Deacon' is a pseudonym, prompted by his similarity to the likeable and creative polymath on the Eureka TV series). Certain details have been deleted and/or amended in order to ensure that his identity remains concealed, and the transcript has been cleaned of most expressed natural hesitations and the like. Meanwhile, it is most important to note that none of the factual information disclosed has been altered or amended in any way.

Henry's name and employment details are known and verified and we were able to meet with him personally more than once. He was understandably a little nervous but definitely wanted to talk with us. In conversation, he sometimes responded with silence and meaningful glances or enigmatic  smiles rather than words. He was entirely disarming, in a very quiet way, and was not always certain about what he should or shouldn't say. At times, however, he took great pleasure in revealing the truth about some key matter in a way that could not be traced back to him. One or two supplementary details were provided by e-mail after the interview. The most important piece of additional information comes at the very end of the transcript, where Henry confirms Dan Burisch's testimony. Readers are welcome to distribute this freely with the proviso that no part of it must be altered or deleted. Unaltered extracts can be quoted if the context is made clear. We consider this interview to be extremely important and in our opinion the information revealed should be made widely known.

Q. Please tell us a little bit about yourself - as much as you feel you can.

A. I'm a current employee of one of the three letter agencies [he plays a little word game with us until we guess the right agency, which he then confirms]. I'm probably taking quite a risk by speaking to you like this, though I don't intend to reveal any information that in my' judgment is both classified and specific to national security. I've been involved in many projects with many different agencies over many years. To jump right in at the deep end, I believe I was a walk-in around eighth grade. I have memories of coming from another planet, and these are all mixed up, all mingled with human boyhood memories. It's very weird, and hard to explain what it feels like. I've never had any problems intuitively accessing complex scientific information and I've often found myself understanding complex systems with no detailed briefing or training. I work essentially with systems. I don't mean to be arrogant, but I do know a great deal of advanced information, scientific and otherwise. I just seem to know it. I can't say more than that right now.

Q. Can you give even any clues about which agency you work for?

No, not on public record. I  just can't afford that.

Q. What information do you feel you have that's important for the world to know?

There's so much that it's hard to know where to start. I knew about 9/11 two years before the event, for instance. Not in specific terms, but certainly in general ones.  It was talked about, an event like that, something that would change the game,  let's say. I know that there's a planned war between the US and China scheduled for late 2008. This is also geopolitical and not concerned with Black Ops as such. These were both just events that I got to hear about in passing. I have no detailed information about them.

Q. You mean that China and the US are working together to stage a war?

The Pentagon started the planning in 1998. You have to understand that China and the US are hand in glove with everything. This war is a joint op between the US and China. Most wars are set up that way and have been for a while. You want something else that's just unpleasant to hear? I also heard from someone who was serving in a unit that worked with missiles deployed for testing in the Pacific and the Far East. The missiles were shipped to the test location in very tightly- sealed containers, very secure, hermetically sealed. After the tests, the container would be shipped back, sealed the same way, but empty, supposedly empty. On one occasion, this guy was present when a container was opened. It wasn't empty. It was filled with bags of white powder.

Q. Cocaine?

A. I leave you to draw your own conclusions. I doubt it was sugar. Let me just say that, hypothetically speaking, and let just me say that to protect  myself, if  such a plan was in operation, it makes perfect logistical sense as it' a totally secure way to get around all security, customs, international  boundaries and ports, and all those checks. It's perfect, like the way guns and ammunition used to cross borders in diplomatic bags going between consulates. This happens all the time.

Q. Would you call yourself a physicist?

A.  Yes. I cover other specialties as well, but yes, I'm a physicist. And I specialize in systems. Livermore is a good place to be, everyone's very professional there. They don't, you know, they = don't play games there.

Q.  What can you say about the current state of physics in the military-industrial complex?

A.  It's dozens of years ahead of mainstream physics which is published in journals in the public domain. There are projects dealing with subjects beyond the belief or experience, beyond the imagination, of many public domain physicists.

Q.  Can you give us any examples?

A.  [long pause] There's a project called 'Shiva Nova' at Livermore which uses arrays of giant lasers. These are huge lasers, huge capacitors, many terawatts of energy, in a building built on giant springs [extends his arms to show the size], all focused on a tiny tiny point. This creates a fusion reaction which replicates certain conditions for nuclear weapons testing. It's like a nuke test in lab conditions, and there's very powerful data collection focused on that point where all the energy is focused. The problem is that all extremely high-energy events like this create rips in the fabric of spacetime. This was observed back in the early Hiroshima and Nagasaki events, and you can even see it in the old movies. Look for  what looks like an expanding energy sphere, and I can send you a link to show you. The problem with creating rips in spacetime, whether they're big or  little, is that things get in that you don't want to be there.

Q. Things get=20 in?

Things get in. Things that we all know about that are discussed on the net a lot. Beings, and influences, and all kinds of weird stuff, and I can tell you they've created big problems.

Q.  What kind of problems?

[pause] The problem of their presence and then what happens next. The other problem is that if you're creating rips in spacetime you're messing with time itself, whether you mean to or not. There have been attempts to fix that, and it all results in a complicated overlay of time loops. Some ETs are trying to help, and others, others are not. When predicting futures, we can only talk about probable and possible futures. This is all extremely complex and very highly classified. Basically, it's just a huge mess. We've opened Pandora's Box, starting with the 'Manhattan Project', and we haven't yet found a way to deal with the consequences.

Q.  The problem of multiple timelines sounds like the information reported by Dan Burisch... can you comment on that?

[shakes head] I don't know about any of that.

Q. OK. We'll send you the links so that you can see the interviews. But what you're saying also corroborates the information reported by "Mr X" on the Camelot website. Have you seen or read those interviews?

No, what does he say?

Q.  "Mr X" is an archivist who for a six-month period had the opportunity to work with classified documents, films, photos and artifacts back in the mid-80s when he was working on a special project with a defense contractor. He says that he read that the principal reason for the ETs' interest in us was because of nuclear testing and the general threat of  nuclear weapons.

That sounds about right. Except only one or two ET groups are concerned about nuclear weapons, not all of them.

Q.  OK. What else can you tell us about the timeline problem?

Just that it's unresolved. The risk is, you see, that each time we try to fix it, it adds to the problem. It just gets worse all the time.

Q. Are the aliens - or some of the aliens - time travelers? Dan Burisch states this.


Q. Do you know about the Montauk Project?

That caused a huge problem, and generated a... created a 40-year loop. I don't know about Al Bielek. I believe some of his information is suspect. But something like that definitely did happen, the Philadelphia Experiment, too. John Neumann was very involved in all of that.

Q.  And Tesla, and Einstein?

Don't know. But Neumann... [nods head]

Q. Montauk was real?

A.  Yes. = That was a real mess. They created a time split we're still unable to mend.  Now, understand this also relates to 'Project Rainbow', the Stargates - they were also working that there. But some of the Montauk reports on the net are unconvincing to me.  I've seen some of the photos of the equipment they're supposed to have used, and it's junk, just a pile of junk.

Q.  [Bill]  I've always had a problem with the idea of time portals because I don't see how or why they'd stay with the planet at a certain location as it moves through space. If a portal was created in spacetime, you'd expect it to be left behind - somewhere very quickly as the earth rotates, and moves round in its orbit, and the solar system itself is orbiting the galaxy in a huge cycle. I mean, everything' in motion, all the time, and this is well known. Can you explain this?

No, I can't... but I know what you mean, and the portals do stay in specific locations, kind of anchored to this planet.  That does happen that way. Why they don't get left behind or just kind of float off somewhere, I have no idea. Maybe they're gravitationally anchored in some way. Your guess is as good as mine. One of the portals connects to Mars, and it's a stable connection, no matter where Earth and Mars are in their orbits. We have a base there established in the early sixties. Actually, we have a number of bases.

Q.  So we've explored Mars already.

 Sure, a long time ago. Have you seen 'Alternative Three'?

Q.  Yes.

That had some truth to it. The Mars landing video was all a spoof, and other parts of it were as well, but there's truth there.

Q.  What else do you know as a physicist working on these projects?

OK. This may interest you if you have a physics background. You know what signal non-locality is, right? When two particles in different parts of the universe can apparently communicate with each other simultaneously, no matter what the distance. Communications devices have been made for communicating across vast distances and also locally using a methodology that's impossible to eavesdrop on, because there's nothing traveling between the two devices that can be intercepted. It's impossible to crack or code-break or eavesdrop because no signal travels anywhere, so  there's no signal to be intercepted or decoded. It just doesn't work like that. The beauty of it is that the devices are actually so simple to build. You can create two chaotic circuits, on a couple of small breadboards using cheap components which anyone can buy, and they communicate with each other in this way. You can build these if you know how.

Q. Are there any other applications besides communication?

[pause] Yes.

Q.  What else can you tell us about this?

That's it. Oh,  I should say that I didn't realize at first that you were also the guy who created the Serpo website. Let me just say that it wasn't called by that name.  And I doubt that the travel took nine months. That's not how they traveled there.

Q.  Oh, you mean the travel was instantaneous?

[pause] I don't think they traveled the way they say they did on the Serpo website. Maybe there were other programs. There may have been many. But travel across large distances is best done using portals. Anything else is really... it's just inefficient.

Q.  You mean they used Stargates?

I guess you could call them that, yes.  I also suspect the system isn't Zeta Reticuli. It sounds to me like Alpha Centauri. I think you mentioned this on the site.

Q.  Do you have a reason for saying that?

Well, Zeta 1 and 2 are a long way apart from one another. Alpha Centauri and Promixa Centauri are close together. Alpha Centauri has a solar system very much like ours, but it's older. The planets are in stable orbits. There are three inhabited planets, the second, third and fourth. No, wait, the fifth, I think. Second, third and fifth.

Q.  That's astonishing you knew this professionally? I mean, you came across this in the course of your work?

Yes. This is known. It's comparatively easy to get there, less than five light years away, and that's, - you know, it's right next door to us. The people there are very human-like. They're not Grays, they're like us. The human form is very common in the universe.

Q.  [Bill] Is one of the planets desert-like? That's what I saw in the photo I described. Two setting suns, over a desert landscape. It really blew me away. [See this article on the Serpo website]

A.  Yes, it is. A desert planet.

Q.  Wow. Are you familiar with 'Project Looking Glass'?

That sounds kind of familiar...

Q.  It was a kind of technology that Dan Burisch told us about that involved seeing into the future. Were you involved with it?

OK, that technology wasn't developed by us.  We were given it, or it was taken from a craft we acquired. I didn't work on that.

Q.  We heard they have a man-made Stargate at Los Alamos. Are you familiar with that?
[looks at us without answering, = slight=20 enigmatic smile]
What can you tell us about Los=20 Alamos?

There's a Los Alamos website - I'll send you, and then you can search there under gravity - shielding and things like that. It's all there.
[Note: the website is]
Now, it may have been an error that it's in the public domain. You might want to advise people to archive the pages they find there before they're taken off the web once this gets out, if it does. But right now you can see it with your own eyes. It's hard to know what else to say.

Q.  What can you tell us about the ET presence?

Look up the movie 'Wavelength'. It's based on a totally true story. Have you seen it? It's based on an incident that took place at Hunter  Liggett.  This is a hot one.

Q. No. Where's Hunter Liggett?

90 miles south-south-east of Monterey, California. My primary station at the time was Fort Ord. I was working there back in the early 70s, when I was in the military, and I was working under CDCEC, which is Combat Developments Command Experimentation Command. You can go look that up. We were doing testing of all kinds of devices, and we lived out in the field there. We wore laser protection goggles a lot of the time and we had our eyes dilated routinely to check our retinas for burns. Some of the cattle in the fields even wore modified goggles! This was the most bizarre sight  you could ever imagine. Well, one day something happened while we were testing. A disk came into the area and it was hovering, it hovered right directly in front of us, out in a field. So [pause] we shot the ****ing thing down.

Q.  You shot down a disk?

[shaking head] We should never have done it. It wasn't me personally, but the group did. Between us we had all this gizmo weaponry and I guess they panicked and thought they were in a movie or something. The disk was disabled and it was captured, and so were the occupants, and I saw these very briefly. They were small child-like humanoids, with no hair. And they had small eyes, not large almond-shaped eyes. I don't think anyone knows about this. As far as I know it's not on the internet.

Q. This is incredible. I've never heard of this incident.

Most of the other witnesses = ended up in Vietnam and many were killed. I may be the only living witness to what happened... I don't know.

The rest of the story is in a sci-fi movie called Wavelength, which was released in the early '80s. I'd never heard of it until I ran into it years later, in Arizona. Did I just say this? = [laughs, for the first time]

When I saw the video, I was expecting some, you know, light entertainment with a beer or two, but I mean, my mouth just hung wide open. The beginning of the film just completely clearly and accurately describes the incident, and the film is very close to the rest of the story,  including the use of an abandoned Nike base in Southern California to store them.

Go find it. It's all basically true. I was just amazed when I saw it. The person who wrote it must have been there, or knew someone who was there. But I don't know who.

I had a genuine alien photo once. I showed it to someone, a woman, a very talented woman, who was a microbiologist working for one of the agencies. It scared the s*** out of her. I couldn't believe it.  She just didn't  want to deal with it at all. And I'd say that just suggests that the public, even scientists aren't ready for this information to be released. And this person was really smart. It didn't stop her from freaking out, just not wanting to know. She was just, you know, totally spooked.

Q.  Do you still have the photo? Can we see it?

I don't know. I may still have it somewhere, and if I can find it, I'll forward  it to you.

Q.  Can you describe it?

It showed a small being with dark skin, kind of black and wrinkled. He was a sole survivor of an incident. But he died=20 shortly afterwards. He had a suit that was self-healing, ah... self-repairing. It was a kind of fabric, or something, that would actually repair itself. And he had an artifact with him that was some kind of remote control device, and that was taken away from him.

Q.  He was the survivor of a crash?

[pause]No. A time traveler? You know everything, don't' you?

Q.  No, but you're giving us verification.

I mean, it's just so incredibly complicated. It's so complex it's possible that no one person has all the information. Most of the agencies don't know what the other agencies know and everything is heavily compartmentalized right up the wazoo. No-one talks to anyone else about this stuff. Sometimes entire projects are duplicated at the cost of God knows how many billions because the existence of the other project is unknown, it's kept from them. I mean, I'm a scientist, and scientists sometimes have one arm tied behind their backs because they can't communicate freely. In fact, they can't communicate at all [laughs]. And there are dozens, hundreds of classified projects, I mean major ones. It's just a total mess.

Look, there are many groups of ETs, and besides our own ancestors are mixed in there. There are time loops upon time loops, and it's all a mess. You'd need an IQ of 190 to figure it all out.

Q.  Tell us about the time loops. By the way, can we ask you again! You've not heard of Dan Burisch?

Not that I remember. It's not familiar to me.

Q.  We interviewed him last month. He was next to John Lear on the web page.

I did see your interview with John Lear, talking about the moon photos and the way they're airbrushed. NASA does that all the time. He's quite a character, by the way. I'd like to meet him one day. What few people know is that radar reports for the National Weather Service are also airbrushed, so that certain radar images aren't released. I don't mean airbrushed as in by hand.  The radar images are electronically filtered using software. Some of these radar traces are huge. In addition, the weather radar won't record traces that are moving faster than a certain high speed, a couple of thousand miles an hour. But there are still traces which need to be removed.

Q.  UFOs?

Sure. They're often optically invisible, but usually show up on radar. They're also visible in ultraviolet... I don't think this is generally known  by people.

Q.  So what can you tell us about the time loops?

Right. [long pause] The situation with time loops is that there are a large number of parallel timelines, lots of branches. There are no paradoxes. [draws a diagram] If you go back in time and kill your grandfather, that's the grandfather paradox everyone talks about, there's no paradox. When you go back and change the past, it creates a different timeline, which is a new branch of the original one. On that timeline, you'd not be born and wouldn't exist, so that aspect of the paradox is true. Do you see? But on this timeline, which you're on here and now, you do exist, and continue to do so. There's no paradox. It's simple - do you see? You're dealing with different branches of a kind of time tree. No principles get violated. All future events are possibilities, not certainties. That's kind of pretty important, an important... distinction. That's really all I can say about that.

Q.  Do you know anything about chemtrails?

OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet, but I guess they had lots of gold, and we used aluminum instead. Global warming is partly because of the greenhouse effect, and that certainly makes things worse, but most of it is because of increased solar activity. Solar activity is the real problem.

Q.  Why isn't = this information in the public domain? It seems like people should know and would like to know,  and there's no security risk if what you say is true.

Scientifically, it's just a total gamble. Not nearly enough is understood. It may work, or maybe it won't. It could easily make things worse. There may also be health side-effects, weather side-effects, God knows what. It affects the whole planet and here you have a unilateral, non-democratic decision, unconnected with the political or democratic process, to launch a huge technological special project that affects everyone on earth. If that's not controversial, I don't know what is. The solution is to keep it secret. It's the usual kneejerk solution, too.

Q. Will it work?

I don't know.

Q.  Is this also connected with weather wars?

[pause]  Yes, there are weather wars. The Air Force will own the weather within two years.

Q.  What else can you tell us?

Read 'The Report from Iron Mountain. Much of that is true. I was working with a group down in [ ______ ]. They called us in and passed out a report. The weird thing is that it wasn't even connected with what we were working on, and it came just right out of the blue, out of nowhere, and none of us were expecting it. The guy said, and I'll never forget it because it struck me as just wrong: "There are the wolves and there are the sheep, and we are the wolves."  Then they told us to go and read the report, and that was that. There wasn't any choice, and there still isn't. The way they see it is there are too many people, and, you know, they're right. That's true. So they figure they need to eliminate them and they're planning solutions to this. I happen to think it doesn't have to be that way. Apart from what I've mentioned so far about the spacetime problems, the problem is over population. It's as simple as that. There are programs to reduce global population for everyone's benefit.  Believe it or not, the intent there is positive. It was put together by Kennedy way back then. The RAND Corporation was involved, and one of the Rockefellers, I forget which one, probably Laurence, I think.

Q.  By killing people off?

Basically, yes. Artificial viruses that have been deployed using a number of means and are hard to detect or identify and nearly impossible to cure. Medical people in the public domain can't identify what's happening.

Q.  How do you feel about this personally?

Very mixed.  [pause] As an individual flesh-and-blood human being, I'm appalled. And as a scientist trained to look at things from a high vantage point, a high overview, I have to say that I can understand the thinking.  You have to understand that I'm not defending or condoning this. It's just a comment from an abstract scientific perspective. But the problems we face on this planet are so huge that very few people have the training or experience to view it all, to see it all in the same field of vision. My situation was different, and I got a chance to see a lot of things because of the nature of my work. Most people don't see it all. But I've worked with many agencies, and I have the big picture. Do you know that  it's legal to test biological and chemical agents against US citizens? It's legal. You know, all that has to be done is to get the approval of the mayor of the city, or his equivalent in any area. Or some representative official. No-one knows this, but it can be checked out. Go look it up. It's all carefully hidden away in the law somewhere, but it's all in the public domain. It's all there.

Editor's note:  Its a presidential order and never went through Congress.

Q.  You've revealed a whole lot of extraordinary material here in our conversation. What's the most important message you'd like to leave people with?

Look, I don't want to shock anyone, but I'm not optimistic. The problems facing us as a race on this planet are huge. I don't believe most civilians are ready and able to comprehend and deal with the sheer scale and complexity of it all. They have enough trouble managing their everyday lives, and these problems are on a completely different level. Over-population is really the biggest issue.

Everything else facing us is connected with this.  You see, I can understand the military taking matters into their own hands. If there was full disclosure of all the problems, and all the proposed solutions, do you really think it would help any of us? I suggest the answer is probably not. It would just complicate matters further. But deep down I do feel that everyone should know these things, or else I would not be talking with you. The essential message I want to leave with is that I do actually hope and want to believe that we as a people can handle all this, but sometimes I wake up in the morning and doubt it, but deep down I want people to know the important things that have been kept from us all. But sometimes I do wonder. You don't know what I haven't told you.

Project Camelot home page is:  Interviews with subjects are at "Interviews" screen at (including "Henry=20 Deacon"):

On 27 September, three weeks after the initial meetings, and after we had strongly urged him to view the three part Dan Burisch video interview on the Project Camelot website, we received the following e-mail. It is quoted verbatim and in its entirety.

Dan Burisch is telling the whole truth. I confirm this. timelines and all best wishes


  • At 6:58=20 PM, Anonymous said: 

    This interview has some intensely interesting stuff in it.

    I just found this blog today, and I like it already.

  • At 12:10=20 PM, Bruce said:

    This is some psycho-babble. Loved it. Entertainingly low rent mind balm for paranoid futurists who will believe any old tale.  Whoever wrote this is a genius.

  • At 4:18=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    what is described in this blog can be taken as the truth in some aspects. wars have been choreographed by the CIA in Africa several times now. underground experiments have been proven to be very unhealthy to civilians. did you know the then director of the FBI started majority of the american news channels? i will take some of this as truth, reflect on it and keep on with my research.....

  • At 6:40=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    Very interesting to read about the idea of culling the human population through deliberately designed biological agents. For some it is  perhaps already too late.

    I personally know of 4 people on my street who lost substantial portions of their pulmonary (lung) function literally over night,  18 months ago, within roughly a 3-month period of each other.

    Both the consulting pulmonary specialists and the general practitioners claimed to have no idea what the cause might have been. All patients were normal and healthy immediately prior to the onset of a mysterious cold virus which immediately resulted in a 40% (or worse) reduction in the carbon dioxide conversion within their lungs.

    Uh huh, must be a coincidence of some sort. Go figure.

  • At 2:53=20 AM, StealthSkater0 said:

    Most mainstream scientists seem turned-off to paranormal tales. Some regard them as "cold war" disinfo. Yet when I returned to visit my old college physics professor after 30 years intending to ask him about the 'Philadelphia Experiment' and Von Neumann, he was strangely distant and tried to avoid meeting with me. I was careful not to have mentioned the purpose of my visit to him or anyone else. How he knew of that is a mystery to me to this day.

    Sarfatti told me that if he had or was working on classified projects on which I was inquiring (albeit innocently), he would be required to  report my actions to national security. Jack thought he was acting like he didn't want to meet with me in order to save me some trouble. Although I was one of his favorite students, I also find it interesting that he didn't answer any of my e-mails. He had always bent over backwards (sometimes too much in my opinion) to accomodate inquiring minds.

    Hoping to find a common denominator among UFOs, time-travel, remote-viewing, "stargates", = Montauk etc., I archived material at . Also stored there (but not appearing in the public navigational boxes) is a diary of e-mails I have received from researchers in these area. E-mail me if you want to view these.

  • At 5:02=20 AM, m4ever said:

    Here's my reaction to this wide ranging interview. First, it has always been of interest to me that some types of paranormal activity - mainly  UFO's  `showed up' JUST after the atomic bomb era began. I've often wondered if mankind `moved' the physical location of the Earth enough to be detectable on other planets in other solar systems. If so, when such an event occurs  -- it could indeed be a `sign' that a planet has `intelligence' and may be worthy of a visit.

    Personally, I view the possibility that `rips' in space-time also may be detectable by an advanced intelligence. Also, in my opinion, intelligence, if given enough `time' may figure `time travel' (in a sense) out. Not traveling into the future or past of a given location in space-time; BUT -- the ability to move thru space at a greater speed than light (which amounts to time travel for the subject going the rate of speed/space).  So, that means, I'd favor more of an idea of `instantaneous' travel to a star system -- as opposed to it taking `9 months'. Indeed, doesn't the 9  months ring strongly about `a new birth' -- a little hookie.

    Finally, as far as `alien beings' on planet Earth --- well, I don't think Jackie Gleason was a liar - how 'bout you?

  • At 9:13=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    I was interested in his response to the question about chemtrails, stating the Aluminum microparticles are used, and that Gold microparticles are used on another planet. Michael Tellinger discusses this in his new book "Slave Species of god", which I highly recommend.  According to  translations from  28,000 Sumerian tablets, our ancestors came here to mine Gold to save their home planet by distributing gold microparticles in their upper atmosphere. (Before you call this BS, at least read the book!) In the following passage quoted from an email I received from Michael Tellinger, he relates his conversation with a South African banker:

    "Some two months ago I was interviewing a retired South African banker who in his day headed up probably the most powerful monetary fund in SA. In his position he was very close to the major decision makers in the gold industry. He confirmed that he was privy to a meeting between a group of top scientists and business men from South Africa; USA and Iran, who secretly met to discuss how gold could be used in the atmosphere to deal with a number of environmental issues on Earth. I will scratch more and share my findings with you all.


    Michae Tellinger

    May 2006.


  • At 11:22=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    to me it soundz like we just need to relax and let things happen as they will. from my individual "average american" perspective, they'll never  tell me the truth and i'll never know.. so why waste time in proof or even speculation. things will turn out exactly az they must. what you reap  so shall you sow... i'm honest truthful and loving and unconcerned over the apparent "problems" they would have us believe in. interesting read but it does not concern my daily life.


  • At 10:24=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    I can believe the US government is working on a new war with China. I can think of at least 6 other well documented incidents where the  government has worked with other governments to direct US citizens along a particular line of thought. The question I have is who have they decided is going to "win" the war and at what expense to the losers. Voting for Republicrats isn't going to=20 change a thing. We need some moral people in our leadership who can and will lead morally instead of politically.

  • At 12:06=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    This man is telling the truth about CDCEC out in Hunter Liggett south of Monterey, California. I lived in Monterey at the time and worked for a company on the Fort Ord base that contracted with CDCEC. I was working under a "secret" clearance doing data processing and publishing field trials done with laser beam combat weapons out in Hunter Liggett between "blue" and = "red" teams. I am, however unaware of the flying disc that Henry says was shot down only because a lot of things done out there in Hunter Liggett did not filter down to me . . . especially an incident like that. Henry's right . . . Hunter Liggett is a very, weird and eerie place to be around.

  • At 12:22=20 AM, Anonymous said:


  • At 10:32=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    I am 53 y/o and have been reading about UFOs for the past 45 years. I have learned to let people reveal what they will and see if there is any  new info. The very nature of the alien agenda is concealment. Or, to state it another way, "Hide everything in plain sight." It is up to the reader to decide for himself if it is believable. I keep an open mind while attempting to discern the truth. If truth is stranger than fiction, then that which is yet to be revealed often seems preposterous.

    Don't be too quick to judge. It is best to take a wait and see attitude. Much is yet to be revealed.

  • At 12:46=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    I believe that even he doesn't know how true all this is! The unwillingness of most of so called "civilization" to hear and see truth will be it's  undoing. This truly is a sad time for this planet's life forms and I wish there was a way to fix it!

  • At 12:58=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction and needs no explanation or proof. This interview was excellent. WAKE UP People, open your eyes.

  • At 10:46=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    This info is truly great and I do appreciate the fact some do come forward and let us know what we feel and that's there is more  to this scene on the planet earth than we are being told, I believe from experience and most will not hear these words that have been shared with them for the damage has been done.....!!!!

  • At 12:01=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    When I was a teenager in the 40's, I went roller skating at = Skateland at the beach. This was at Playland at the Beach in San Francisco, CA. = After skating I went to the beach to see the seals at seal-rock. There on the beach was a metal disk. I went to look at it, and it came up to my waist. The little people invited me in, but I was too big to get inside. I then shrunk smaller and could get into the disk. It was round and in the middle of it was a wheel. Nothing else. We had a wonderful ride and conversation. After the ride, I got out of the disk and then I was in my own bed waking up. I was surprised when Henry described such a disk and small people that I had met in San Francisco when I was a teenager.


  • At 1:07=20 AM, COSMIC WANDERER said:


  • At 12:07=20 PM, Anonymous said:

    I don't feel the need to be anonymous, my name is Rita D. McPhee. In regard to 'Ben's' comment....which is utter nonsense.
    'you can't control all these billions of people anymore.. manageable in the past but not anymore..' This is conceivably why the 'powers that be' are able to be so successful. That is a typical 'sheep'attitude! If you people could take your heads out of the sand, you would realize that you are indeed being controlled, and powerfully today. I respect what has been stated by Henry Deacon, and would like to hear more, further, I believe he, Henry is a 'walk in'........and has = some sound information that should be considered by the entire population, rather than listening, and obviously swallowing the war mongers sitting in places of 'presidency' - 'prime ministers' - 'senates'. etc.....Cancer, for example is no longer a fatal disorder, as a cure has been secured, many years ago, and many other disorders, such as aids has a cure.......but why declare  and use these cures, when it enhances the depopulation? Many millions of dollars are donated by the population to no end! The world at large focuses on what they hear, and allow the powers that be to continue on their merry way. Does anyone consider what is going on behind the scene, by putting the focus for the 'sheep' public to swallow the tripe that is put onto the media.........and continuing with their insidious works. 911 is a good example of the work that is being perpetrated by your president.........a puppet. All in the name of control and inciting fear, and the public swallows this.....just as the 'bible', imposing control through fear. Wake up world, and use your own minds.......become individuals and use your power to change things yourselves, by looking behind the screen, that allows you to be so complacent. Thank you Henry Deacon for going onto the web to perhaps enlighten and wake up the people that live with minds as large as their back yards.......I look forward to hearing more......Too many people elect to be 'victims'...and create their own reality, as we do indeed create our own reality each day.  I wonder if the population realizes that they too, could each perform such things as teleporting? Consciousness and energy creates reality. (Ramtha)..........thank your for the opportunity to voice my thoughts.

    At 3:19=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    The movie wavelength 1983 is the right one for tangerine dream music, its supposed to be awesome movie for its time... based on true story too = if you believe the interview with Henry Deacon' interview at

    interview excerpt=20 here:
    " What = can you tell us about the ET presence?

    Look up the movie Wavelength. It's based on a totally true story. Have you seen it? It's based on an incident = that took place at Hunter Liggett. This is a hot one.

    No. Where's Hunter Liggett?

    90 miles south-south-east of Monterey, California. My primary station at the time was Fort Ord.

    I was working there back in the early 70s, when I was in the military, and I was working under CDCEC, which  is Combat Developments Command Experimentation Command. You can go look that up.

    We were doing testing of all kinds of devices, and we lived out in the field there. We wore laser protection goggles a lot of the time and we had our eyes dilated routinely to check our retinas for burns. Some of the cattle in the fields even wore modified goggles! This was the most bizarre  sight you could ever imagine.

    Well, one day something happened while we were testing. A disk came into the area and it was hovering, it hovered right directly in front of us, out in a field. So [pause] we shot the = ****ing thing down.

    You shot down a disk?

    [shaking head] We should never have done it. It wasn't me personally, but the group did. Between us we had all this gizmo weaponry and I guess they panicked and thought they were in a movie or something. The disk was disabled and it was captured, and so were the occupants, and I saw these very briefly. They were small child-like humanoids, with no hair. And they had small eyes, not large almond-shaped eyes. I  don't think anyone knows about this. As far as I know it's not on the internet.

    This is incredible. I've never heard of this incident.

    Most of the other witnesses ended up in Vietnam and many were killed. I may be the only living witness to what happened... I don't know.

    The rest of the story is in a sci-fi movie called Wavelength, which was released in the early '80s. I'd never heard of it until I ran into it years later, in Arizona. Did I just say this? [laughs, for the first time]

    When I saw the video, I was expecting some, you know, light entertainment with a beer or two, but I mean, my mouth just hung wide open. The beginning of the film just completely clearly and accurately describes the incident, and the film is very close to the rest of the story,  including the use of an abandoned Nike base in Southern California to store them.

    Go find it. It's all basically true. I was just amazed when I saw it. The person who wrote it must have been there, or knew someone who was there. But I don't know who.

    I had a genuine alien photo once. I showed it to someone, a woman, a very talented woman, who was a microbiologist working for one of the agencies. It scared the s*** out of her. I couldn't believe it. She just didn't want to deal with it at all. And I'd say that just suggests that the public, even scientists aren't ready for this information to be released. And this person was really smart. It didn't stop her from freaking out, just not wanting to know. She was just, you know, totally spooked."
     excerpt ends

  • At 4:12=20 AM, Anonymous said:

    also see the movie wavelength 1983 and fastwalkers

  • At 1:58=20 PM, Anonymous said

    Hunter Liggett is about 90 miles SS West of Monterey...

    Some of the interview was not transcripted correctly/accurately... and some of the information was intentionally modified to protect the source/person.. some of the technical information and other aspects are erroneous due to the method of data collection (from memory only) and environmental factors surrounding the interviews.. This must be considered when attempting to understand the content and accuracy.

    The interview took place quite spontaneously, with no real planning, in noisy, public conditions.... no written, audio, video documentation was allowed.  The interviewers were asked to pull the batteries from their phones.. The timing and locations (on a global = scale) of  the interviews were very sychronistic in nature... if one were to know the details...  A small amount of false data WAS added to protect the source(s).

    Sorry folks... but one must weigh what can and cannot be told.. use your heart... not just your head

    Sci-Fi is not the source's area of interest... Far from it..

    YOU CAN change YOUR Reality...think and wish for what you want.... Infinite choices are in Your hands.

    YOUR reality and "future" ARE in your hands and in the hands of a collective mind

    Best Wishes Always for you and your world 

    May you find Your Bliss

    *Please Note Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More  information.
    September 14, 1985, Saturday
    Late City Final Edition, Section 1, Page  1, Column 6, 844 words
    DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - An Air Force missile destroyed an orbiting derelict satellite 290 miles above the Pacific Ocean today  in the first such test of an anti-satellite weapon. The Air Force said the heat-seeking missile, carried into space by a rocket launched from an F-15 fighter plane, homed in on a 6-year-old 3D5D0C778DDDA00894DD484D81



    Official Government website confirms COSMIC TOP SECRET (CTS)Classification.

    When Bob Dean first decided to break his security oaths and go public with what he knew about the NATO "Assesment...", he received a lot of criticism regarding the CTS classification. Many people refused to believe that it even existed.

    Recently Dragonfire posted a link under the title "Planet X", about an Italian UFO researcher, Cristoforo Barbato, who had ongoing communications with a member of S.I.V. (Vatican Intel') In 2001 The source had apparently provided video footage of planet X which contained a Cosmic Top Secret classification. (here is the link to the article:

    I decided to have a look at Cristoforo Barbato's website

     and discovered a link to a NATO security document which contains the COSMIC TOP SECRET classification, it is an official website and contains the following warning:

    "You are entering an official U.S. Government system, which may be used only for authorized purposes. Unauthorized modification of any information stored on this system may result in criminal prosecution. The Government may monitor and audit usage of this system, and all persons are hereby notified that use of this system constitutes consent to such monitoring and auditing...."

    Planet X and the "JESUIT FOOTAGE" Classified "SECRETUM OMEGA." First Indirect Confirmation!

    by Luca Scantamburlo
    Posted November 9, 2006

     Cristoforo Barbato speaking about the Secretum Omega.
    Photo used with his kind permission -

    After the release of the controversial 'MJ-12' files and of the 'Guardian' files, by an anonymous individual, and perhaps for the first time in history, one member of the ufological community, an Italian freelance writer and investigator, was able to check the credentials of the alleged anonymous insider, an individual that was still working for the intelligence community and had not been fired or retired. This mystery man was responsible for the release of the above classified material. He was an insider of a presumed Vatican intelligence structure and his actions were supported by his colleagues. But first of all, let me tell you something about that freelancer: Cristoforo Barbato. 

    Born in Naples in 1972, is an Italian independent UFO researcher; in the last 7 years he worked and written for several UFO magazines and frontier studies published in Italy: Notiziario UFO and Dossier Alieni for example. For many years Barbato was also a member of the C.U.N. (Centro Ufologico Nazionale), the main Italian ufological association. Moreover he has collaborated to the realization of two Italian encyclopedias on the UFOs subject, entitled UFO Dossier X, published by the Fabbri Edizioni and Stargate - Enigmi dal Cosmo, by Curcio Editore. Barbato has also participated as speaker at some national conventions on the UFOs, where he has had the possibility to meet different important UFOs researchers, both Italians and international: among them Col. Philip Corso, U.S. Army retired officer.

    For some years Barbato was editor in charge in Rome for some Italian magazines, as Stargate, Extra Terrestrial and Stargate Magazine. During that period he wrote on the magazine "Stargate" many reports about Fatima Apparitions and the famous "Third Secret". After the publication of those reports, precisely in the year 2000, he received several e-mails from a person who qualified himself as a Vatican insider. From those e-mails rose up the story of a presumed Vatican Intelligence Agency, whose code would be S.I.V.: "Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano", which in Italian means "Vatican Information Services". In short the Vatican Secret Services. Barbato, at the beginning, was very skeptical and did not rely on him. After one year of such an epistolary contacts (in the meantime the insider revealed himself as a S.I.V. membership, belonging to the Jesuit Order and working by the Holy See), the Italian freelance demanded a meeting with him, as a necessary condition to carry on the contacts. In spite of the risks the Vatican insider accepted, and I suppose he was aware it was necessary considering his baffling revelations. Two meetings took place in a public space in Rome in 2001. After that at least his identity was clear: he was not a mythomaniac; he was really a Jesuit working by the Holy See. Of course the Italian freelance has been protecting his source, avoiding to spread his name; and very soon Barbato realized that he knew much more than what he had told him by e-mail.

    Photo used with the kind permission of Cristoforo Barbato -

    Closeup of object to the right of Planet X. Object has been enlarged with noise added.
    Photo used with the kind permission of Cristoforo Barbato -

    Moreover in 2001 the Vatican insider sent to Cristoforo Barbato by post a videotape (shown for the first time during a meeting that took place in Pescara, in Italy, on 30 April 2005), containing a footage of 2 minutes regarding observations of a planetoid in the deep space (the presumed Tenth Planet, "the Planet X"), while it was approaching to the Solar System. The video, which shows an introduction of writings of classification on it, had been carried out by a secret space probe named "Siloe". The Vatican deep throat told Barbato the space probe was equipped with a sophisticated infrared camera and an electromagnetic impulses propulsion, and was assembled in Area 51(Nevada), and then orbited by an aircraft of the type "Aurora", a secret hypersonic aircraft; the space probe Siloe, always according the Barbato's contact, sent the images of the planetoid in October 1995 (after it came back to the border of Solar System to have more power of signal), to a secret radio telescope hidden in an unused oil-refining plant in Alaska, totally managed by some Jesuits belonging to the S.I.V. The radio telescope, he added, was built in 1990 to observe anomalous celestial bodies on approaching the Solar System. 

    An unknown spacecraft possibly the Aurora escaping earth's atmosphere. Photo taken during a STS mission. Photo used with the kind permission of Cristoforo Barbato -
    Closeup of triangle object traveling over earth. Photo used with the kind permission of Cristoforo Barbato -

    After his conference in Pescara (Italy), Barbato spread a press release which, according to the Jesuit's information, would confirm also the story of a secret meeting of First Contact happened during the strange absence of President Eisenhower in a February evening of 1954, while the President was on holiday in Palm Springs, in California, absence officially motivated with a sudden visit by a dentist for an emergency dental treatment. As a matter of fact on Saturday night of February 20, 1954, Eisenhower's Press Secretary announced that Eisenhower had lost a tooth cap while eating fried chicken and had to be rushed to a local dentist (source: Michael Salla, PhD, Here is a passage from Barbato's press release: "[…] the meeting with an Alien delegation at Muroc Air Field Base in February 1954 in the presence of president Dwight Eisenhower and James Francis McIntyre, bishop of Los Angeles. After that incredible event McIntyre flew to Rome to refer everything to Pope Pius XII who decided to found the S.I.V with the aim to gather every possible bit of information about Aliens and how they interacted with the American Government. From then bishop McIntyre and Detroit Archbishop Edward Mooney became the main information co-coordinators between the USA and the Vatican State. Incredibly, later on there should have been some direct personal meetings between S.I.V. members and a Nordic-looking race of Aliens coming from the Pleiades. These Aliens presumably warned humans against another alien race met by the Americans in the California Desert . These meetings between S.I.V and Aliens took place mainly in the USA territory but also - twice - in the Vatican State , precisely in Vatican Gardens at the Papal Academy of Sciences in presence of Pope Pius XII. My Jesuit contact also confirmed to me the reality of the George Adamsky-John XXIII meeting and talked about some very interesting details about it. He also called "Secretum Omega" the highest secrecy level in S.I.V, equivalent to the NATO Cosmic Top Secret." 

    I interviewed Barbato for the Italian bimonthly magazine UFO Notiziario (UFO news), nr.62, April-May 2006, in which the magazine published some frames of the video and a very interesting presumed image (provided almost for sure by the Jesuit to Barbato), regarding the phantom "Aurora" (so far denied by U.S. officials) an American large secret hypersonic aircraft capable of a Mach 6 performance. In the presumed picture, taken by a classified STS mission in 2002, you can see a full-body shape aircraft (a black triangle) coming out from the earthly atmosphere to go into the Space. Other detailed information have been revealed on Barbato's website (, where last September the Italian freelance published on-line the interview to his contact, the Jesuit, taken place in 2001 in Rome. The Jesuit member of the S.I.V. told Barbato that on occasion of the secret meeting at Muroc Air Field Base, in 1954, military cameramen filmed the outstanding event "with three movie cameras (16 millimeters), detached in different places, loaded with colour film and working by spring engines; this last rather unconformable resolution, because it compelled every cameraman to change reel every 3 minutes, it was necessary since in the presence of the Aliens and of their spacecrafts, the electrical engines of the biggest movie cameras did not work. They filmed 7 rollers of 30 meters, a total of 20 minutes shot." Among the Jesuit's revelations, two of them are astonishing: about the planetoid visible in the videotape, the Vatican insider told the Italian freelance that it is the Planet X (the Sumerian Nibiru); about the "Guardian Files", he confessed him are a "dramatic truth", apart from the frames of the presumed E.B.E.

    The Barbato' s researches shocked me and roused me to investigate as journalist the "Secretum Omega" enigma. Since 2005 up to now, on some magazines, websites and essays, I found out several circumstantial evidences that seem to prove the existence of the S.I.V. and the "Secretum Omega", their highest clearance. Barbato, before than me, found the most important and explicit of them on an historical essay, a book written by Mark Aarons and John Loftus, entitled "Ratlines" (see chapter 1). Anyway, above all because of the mass-media silence, I decided to baptize the Barbato's video with the name of "Jesuit Footage", to draw upon it the public attention. And finally I found an indirect remarkable confirmation of Barbato's testimony: Dr. Steven M. Greer (M.D.), in his recent book "Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge", revealed in the chapter nr. 16 (passages of it have been published by Nexus New Times magazine, on the survey "Twilight Zone", nr 64, October-November 2006) that, during a meeting with some rebel insiders taken place in December 1994 in Phoenix by Wrigley Mansion, one of them confessed him that determinate Jesuits control technology on UFOs information and contacts with Aliens. So I am convinced that the disturbing inquiries carried out by Barbato deserve our maxim attention, especially to understand how much truth there is about the next Planet X's arrival.

    © Luca Scantamburlo, B.A., 9 November 2006 - Reprinted with permission


    Harrdrawk (Harry D.)
    11/22/2003 5:06 am EST GLP Forum
    Re: Mystery Of Dr. Dan Burisch !!!IMPORTANT!!!
    Fly- by would be a helicopter visit from growling PTB. I´ve decided I´m not on their list of worries yet.

    Okay, here it is. I printed it and it takes more than a full page if you keep it all. Feel free to alter any of this. It reveals what little I know about the science end. It´s me asking the questions I want someone to answer. Good Luck and don´t laugh.


    As you may or may not be aware, a relatively unknown Public Internet Forum known as Godlike Productions has recently produced what appears to be a growing number of accessible links depicting unsanctioned biological and chemical exercises being conducted on Human Subjects with numbers for names, even as you read this. A topic Thread entitled -- "Mystery of Dr. Dan Burisch !!!Important!!!" and authored by a man from the Netherlands, who uses the Moniker HUMAN SUBJECT #58-001 has attracted various informants from within the Government and Military who are risking their lives to, not only make the public and fellow patriots aware, but also to, {for lack of a better term}, Save The World.

    Among the many fearful participants in these unethical research programs is a retired Naval Microbiologist named Dr. Dan Burisch, who was missing and presumed dead. Arrangements were made by certain courageous contacts on the inside to allow the living Dr. to be interviewed on a Yahoo site with web cam, by at least 3 (three) different members of the GLP Forum. These personal interviews appear on pages Vol 1 47-49 {starting at page 47 "dondep" 11/13/2003 3:09 am EST} of the Burisch Thread for your review and consideration. (More interviews at => "Libraries")

    Within the 75 + (Seventy-five +PLUS)(11/22/2003) pages of the Burisch Thread, there are compelling revelations about the signed treaties currently being honored between Human Beings and Extraterrestrial Visitors. The ET presence and cover-up is discussed behind the scenes in a startling matter-of-fact manner, by at least two opposing Factions. Dialogue reveals that the Faction hailing from the darker side would like to obtain permission to increase abductions rates to 10,000,000 (yes, ten million) humans per year, in addition to gaining possession of something called the "LOTUS". This secret treaty, (known as the T9 Treaty in the ET and black-ops community), is allegedly up for renewal shortly. Given the likelihood of an alien presences and in view of such claims, shouldn´t Voters be allowed to decide the parameter of such a treaty? What do you say? Is it okay if we ,(meaning the members of the peaceful faction),give up the Lotus Protocol, and allow an increase in fellow human abductions in the name of peaceful cohabitation?? Or is the abduction quota they now have enough?

    Dr. Burisch and other scientists were part of a project trying to correct a neurological defect in the species many refer to as "greys" or J-rods. One of these ET´s, a 4ft male, was the voluntary tissue and cell donor responsible for these latest scientific advances. He communicated ´telepathically´ with Dr. Dan for the benefit of all mankind, not just our controllers. It is revealed recently that this courageous time-traveler has since expired, but not before assisting his Dr. and friend in discovering the power of the Ganesh Particle as well as advancing cell rejuvenation and genetic repair research well beyond cloning. How about it... know anybody tired of being paralyzed? Can we get Dr Burisch freed from house arrest? What are his chances of ever seeing the outside world again, considering what he knows? Should our top scientists continue to be erased when their projects reach completion, in the interest of National Security? Are those the rewards for making scientific breakthroughs? Want some stunning insights? (Doc, Q94-109-A is a must read, as is Dr. Burisch´s last letter before he disappeared) That´s not all. Dr. Burisch describes how he and others near him are appalled at the governments practice of releasing untested biological material in the air, (commonly known as Chemtrails, or as he refers to them Chem.-trials) over major cities in the U.S. (Have you seen them? The crises-cross vapor trails in the skies?) The government decided to spray a type of biological ingredient in our air , (operation raindancer), that might (key word) deter human DNA from becoming "unwound" after a threat to deliver a certain airborne virus was received. Do you feel that the public should be made aware of such decisions before or after action is taken? Do you feel like the U.S. Government acted in your best interest?

    Transcripts and documented evidence concerning Natural as well as Man-made Stargates have surfaced. Apparently some are now being activated, and some time travel is being allowed. It´s not clear where these Human Subjects are being sent to or why. A hybrid program involving humans and aliens is discussed, with links as to it´s veracity supplied. Ask yourself; Was the war in Iraq about terrorism? Not according to soldiers and civilians on the inside. Wonder what happened to the WMD we were promised would surface? Prepare to be shocked to learn what Religious Artifact in the wrong hands could mean for all life forms.. By the way, are you aware of underground 40´ glass lined tunnels ( dug by nuclear powered Terrenes ) connecting over 100 strategic sites have been built with your tax dollars? Would you like to see a directory to see the one nearest you? And what of our sources? Are these brave individuals loyal to the United States of America? Definitely. Are there Secret Societies located on American soil deciding what is best for the human race? Definitely. Question is, does the United States Government have the right to make decisions for humans in other countries? Does the United States of America own the world? The man from The Netherlands doesn´t think so, and neither do I, but then again, he has no vote, and I have but one. Do you want to know what the Government isn´t telling about Planet X, the coming earth changes (pole shift), or the real reasons behind the Suns´ unusual behavior? Does it make sense to you that Billions of dollars are being spent on Iraq, while we go further and further into debt? Dr. Burisch is still alive. The Burisch Thread is still producing insight and awareness. (It is being compared to the "Pelican Brief" story by some) What can you do to help save Dr. Burisch? .. anything? Pause for a moment, and ponder these things... "

    " ... The information derived from the Burisch Thread is not going to be crushed by the Powers That Be because the real Powers that Be want this nonsensical nightmare we live in to end. The men and women who obtained this information are ordinary people, and are guilty of no crime... they are innocent. They have names, yes, but most are not known to those releasing the information from behind the forbidden veil. The information is being made available to anyone everywhere just as I have made it available to you. Can the site be taken down? I suppose anything is possible where power and money are used to being in control... Why would anyone want to deny the public these many insights? You decide. Some say that the Government´s reasoning is that in the end we will all die anyway. Some benevolent beings within and without are decidedly opposed to this attitude. What position do you take? Feel free to post your comments on the Thread, and become part of the History of the world. Some say the pending ELE can be avoided. Your part may make the difference... "

    Dan Burisch: As for PX.

    DonDep: Dan, is it possible that the group that signed this unconstitutional treaty with the elitists that control the ET-related projects is quite possibly not have our best interests in mind? Is there any really good reason we will never see official Disclosure?

    DonDep: oh go back to px first

    Dan B : Nancy is very correct that PX is "Out there."

    Dan B : It is something very different than what she has interpreted though.

    DonDep: that´s what many of us thought

    Dan B : PX is the gateway to the center of our galaxy.

    DonDep: we knew she wasn´t completely nuts

    Dan B : It is tied with "something wonderful", but I don´t know what that means. I believe, that William Henry is correct in that regard.

    DonDep: so is it a ´brown dwarf´? a celestial object? or something more akin to a black hole? a massive stargate?

    Dan B : More akin to an oval mass of energy that acts as a stargate.

    Dan B : The DCTP, familiar with that concept?

    DonDep: will it cause a pole shift in the very near future, as she claims?

    DonDep: yes, familiar with it quite a bit! hot topic for thousands rigfht now!

    Dan B : The electromagnetic pole shift is already underway. ....... :"


    Mongrel ~ 9/13/06 ~ eaglesforum ("Majestic 12" initiated forum)


    (These are real answers from Dr. Burisch.)

    protoseed (Dr.Burisch): No, Mongrel. Planet X as being conceived a real "planet" (whether rocky or gaseous) is completely false. It's how energy, energetic events, particularly worldwide acoustic phenomena, were recorded so many years ago.

    "...protoseed: No, not at all. The oval center of energy to which I referred in instant messages of a few years ago is a valid answer. The oval-shape from whence the so called Planet-X phenomena originates is the generally ovoid shape, looking at the plane of the galaxy. From that standpoint, but that alone, Planet X is out there.

    "... protoseed: Well, as I have said before, I do not believe that Nancy Lieder is betraying people, wilfully. Yet, I have been charged in times past of doing so should Marcia offer the DVD, which should be done soon, for a price. Those who follow Nancy Lieder are quick to make such accusations against me. I wonder if she offers her books or tapes, or whatever for free



    by Alex 



    For Dee,

    Information, known and hitherto unknown about Nibiru.

    Nibiru, also known as Marduk, 12th planet or Planet X, first came into the Earth's solar system far back before recorded history -- even before the formation of the Earth itself.  If truth were to be known (and it will be) the formation of the Earth as it is today is due to the influence of this occasional interloper to this solar system.  

    How did Nibiru first come into this system?  Though it is commonly believed and indicated in some of the ancient writings that it was a natural part of this system that merely has a very long orbital path, (more than 3600 years).  In fact it was brought into this system by a group of beings who prided themselves, albeit arrogantly, to be the "creators and farmers of life in the universe."  These people, who later told humans to call them Annuniki, were at the time a race with great power of and supernatural means.  They were not physical in the sense that humans understand.  Though they exist in this physical dimension, they do not have what could be truly called a physical form.  Surely not the same as your body is.  They were also a people with far too much self-importance and each of their accomplishments fed their skewed pride until such a time as they decided to create a whole living planet by themselves.

    This solar system was the place where they choose to attempt their grand folly.  The star was constant and established and the magnetic forces of the other gas giants, (Jupiter and Saturn) would make for a stable area between them and the sun where life could take hold, if there was a planet in place.

    At the time, there were the outer planets of the Sol system.  The inner planets had not evolved past bare rocks or molten asteroids yet and there was no life, as humans generally understand life, in this system.   The Annuniki believed if they could create a planet, or bring one into the system, then they could put it into place and then create life on it.  To them, with all their successes and with all their pride, it was an ultimate challenge they could not resist.

    In an attempt to create an inhabitable planet in the Sol system, they attempted to navigate a planetary mass that they felt had the potential to bear life into the Sol system.  They did this with a mixture of technology and supernatural powers they possessed.  They started with a moon from the other planet Neptune.   Slowly they moved it towards the center of the solar system.

    Unfortunately, they underestimated the gradational pull of Uranus, and the moon crashed into Uranus with such force that it not only created a phenomenally huge crater on the face of the planet, but the force was sufficient to knock Uranus off its axis, and to this day it rotates on its side, perpendicular to all other planets in the system.

    This first attempt was scrapped and another moon was chosen.  This time in order to counter the pull of Uranus and any pull from other planets, the next moon chosen was mostly ice so its density could be controlled by melting water as needed.  Also it was made to spin opposite of the rest of the natural turn of the planets in the Sol system, moreover, it was moved into the solar system in an orbit contrary to the rest of the system.

    With the new spin, ice and orbit along with the lessons learned from the first failed attempt, this moon was slowly but surely navigated past the gas giants and into the inner area of the solar system.

    Once they passed the last of the gas giants, they believed they were sure there was no way they could fail.  They concluded that in order to be "gods" to their soon to be creations, they would need to be close to their new creation.  So, in their arrogance, almost all of them, enmasse, decided to transfer their consciousnesses to the new moon, which they dared to call Nibiru  "Giver of life". 

    Since they were not physical in the sense that they needed to have physical sustenance and provisions, they were happy enough to live on this barren, ice covered world.  But once again their superciliousness nature caused them grief.  No one believed that they could make such a small mistake of numbers, and before they knew it, their beloved Nibiru was on a collision course with a dead rock of a planet revolving around the sun. 

    There was much debate about how to avoid the collision, but it was all for naught.  The two heavenly bodies collided in a fury.

    Because the small rock world (earth) was rotating with the proper rotation of the center sun, and was also orbiting in the proper magnetic direction, its gradational pull overpowered that of the interloping moon whose rotation and orbit were contrary to the established norm. When the dust settled, so to speak, Nibiru was far smaller, as the material that made it up, particularly the ice, super heated in the collision and remained with the small rock world. Thus, water came to the Earth.

    The collision caused many things to happen.  The sheer force of the impact so close to the gravitational and magnetic center of a solar system did not simply destroy one object and knock the other off track as it had in the outer reaches of the solar system with their first attempt.  The force was so great, the gravitational influences so strong, and coupled with the intense psychic energies the Annuniki were exerting, the results were astounding.  Nibiru was instantly thrown into an orbital abnormality that not only sent it plummeting through space, but also through dimension.

    The Annuniki, along with their dear creation, Nibiru, were sent on an incredible elliptical journey that takes them through space, time, dimensions and realities.

    Luckily for the Annuniki, they are beings who can exist in the type of environment created by such a journey - that being no heat, sunlight, water etc.  Also, because of their non-physical status, Annuniki are very long-lived beings. Their lifespan is many, many hundred times longer than a human beings'.  This is a good thing because with an orbital path as long as they one they are on, it gives them some inkling of continuity.

    Over time, Nibiru has returned in its journey around our sun.  Sometimes when it has passed planet Earth, Annuniki have "jumped off", if you will, and visited the Earth.  Sometimes they make short visits while their planet is in the area.  Sometimes they stay for whole revolutions. Some are here right now.   

    The confusing part comes into play because Nibiru is still traveling through dimensions, time and space as it rotates around the sun.  Sometimes when it has passed Earth, although it was close by, perhaps even passing through, it has been in an alternate dimension and was not seen, felt or even suspected.  The only proof that it could have been near, would be, if you looked, a jump in the ideas, technology or consciousness of man, caused by Annuniki visitors interactions and inspirations.

    Other times, it has come by and been in this dimension, or one close enough that its bizarre course through the solar system cased problems that effected the world in a physical way, just as any solid body passing so close would.

    The orbit is about 3669 years, but because in other dimensions it can move quicker or slower, this is extremely subject to change.  In general it is within 200 years of this time.  Nevertheless, because it can make this orbit totally unseen by the earth due to its location in dimension or realm at the time of its passing, it will often only be known by those who can see into these other dimensions. 

    This pass will not be in this dimension.  Even though Nibiru may show up in close dimensions as it approaches, so that sometimes it can be seen on photographs, it has been concluded that it will not be in a position to show (be seen) or even to cause problems with the earth until it passes again in about 7400 years from now.

    That said, it must be noted that when it does get close enough for the next wave of Annuniki to "jump over" to the Earth, be sure they will.  And with that will come great change.

    I hope this helps clarify some of your questions

    Sincerely yours,



About The Interviewer

Name:Aileen Garoutte
Location:Auburn, Washington, United States

I am retired as Director of the UFOCCI (Ufo Contact Center International) however I still am very involved in UFO research. I am a hypnotist specializing in missing time cases for the abductees.



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