| 9-22-99 - I was arguing with myself about whether I
thought I was always right or wrong. I said, "Let's find something
else to worry about.
VISIONS:
I saw a road with a farm field next to it and two teenager boys
walking in the field.
I saw these words: ZETA RETICULI STAR SYSTEM with a big orb
on the upper right.
I then saw a computer web page url that ended STOP_SATAN.htm
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| In 1961, Betty and Barney Hill were abducted by aliens
and taken aboard their spacecraft. During her abduction, Betty was shown
a star map. She
was asked by an alien to point out the Earth, but since Betty had no
knowledge of astronomy, she couldn't reply. After her abduction, and
under hypnotic regression Betty Hill drew the star map as accurately as
possible. A few years later, Marjorie Fish built a few models of star
systems using plastic balls and wire .. one of these models matched
Betty Hill's diagram. The star system from which Betty had been told the
aliens originated from was Zeta 2 Reticuli!

http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/hillmap.htm
http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Incident.htm
The Betty Hill Star Map Controversy:
http://www.hillwilsonstarmap.com/ |
| From the Extra Solar Planets Encylopedia

The two stars, Zeta 1 and
Zeta 2, are located in the southern constellation of Reticulum (the net)
and are thus never visible to most of the northern hemisphere. Both are
classed as old disk population II stars whose age is between six to eight
billion years. There is every indication that both had a common origin and
are part of a relatively near-by old moving group (or loose cluster) of
stars which was first defined in 1958 and is known as the Zeta Hercules
group. Zeta 1 Reticuli is separated from Zeta 2 Reticuli by at least 350
billion miles or about 100 times the Sun-Pluto distance. They may be even
farther apart but, as just mentioned above, the available observations
suggest they are moving through space together and are therefore
physically associated. They probably require at least a 100,000 years to
orbit around their common center of gravity.
Star M[.sini]
Semi-maj.
Period Ecc.
Inclin. Radius
Jup.
mass:(J) Axis (AU)
years(y)
(deg) (Earth
Earth
mass:(E)
days(d)
rad.)
(note 1)
zeta2 Ret
0.27(J)
0.14
18.9 (d)
0.
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11 pc
G1V
V = 5.24

Now this big quarter of a Jupiter mass planet is in an
orbit about Zeta 2 Reticuli which lasts 18.9 days and has a semi-major
axis of 0.14 Astronomical Units. For comparison Mercury has a semi-major
axis of 0.39 Astronomical Units (AU) [1.00 Astronomical Units = the
distance of between the earth and the sun, about 93 million miles). Now
assuming that this newly discovered planet is the closest one to Zeta 2
Ret (it's hard to imagine a closer one) then following Bode's Law (the law
which states each planet is about twice the distance from it's sun as its
inner neighbour) Reticulum 2 should be at 0.28 AU, Reticulum 3 should be
at 0.56 AU and INTERESTINGLY Reticulum 4 would be at 1.12 AU in between
the Earth's 1.00 AU and Mars's 1.52 AU, well within the lifezone of a G
class star! Source : Joe LeSesne, E-mail : raver187@m-net.arbornet.org
FROM: http://www.mufor.org/zeta2ret.html
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Alleged ‘Project’ sent U.S. military team to another
planet?
Steve Hammons
Steve Hammons is author of two novels about a
secret joint-service U.S. Government research team investigating
unusual phenomena. MISSION INTO LIGHT and the sequel LIGHT'S HAND
introduce readers to the ten women and men of the "Joint
Reconnaissance Study Group" and their exciting adventures
exploring the unknown. Both novels are available from the Barnes
& Noble Web site, bn.com. Hammons also serves as a research
analyst at the open source intelligence (OSINT) Web site
IntelDesk.com. Visit the home page of his novels at the link below
for more information:
In recent weeks, information has surfaced on the Web about an
alleged U.S. Government military project called “Project SERPO.”
We’ve all heard about reports of unusual and unconventional
secret government projects. Some of them seem so far out that you
wonder if they are real or an “urban legend” floating around.
Yet, many of us understand that people within our government
and our military sometimes face unusual and strange phenomena in the
course of their duties.
According to a mysterious source’s comments on a
recently-developed Web site, serpo.org, Project SERPO was an effort
developed between the late 1940s and the mid-1960s. It was a joint
project between the U.S. Government and a race of friendly beings
from a planet in the Zeta Reticuli star system. The source claims
that diplomatic relations were established between the U.S.
Government and these beings after their spacecraft crashed in New
Mexico in 1947.
Aw, give me a break, you may say. What have these people been
smoking – medical cannabis or something?
We’ve heard and read about unconventional government
projects before such as “remote viewing” intelligence-gathering
methods, time-travel physics research, psychological studies on
“magic mushrooms,” unusual non-lethal weapons and similar
efforts. But relations with visitors from another planet?
That’s not all. Information on the SERPO Web site describes
a project that selected and trained a joint-service U.S. military
team to board a spacecraft of these visitors and go to their home
planet for a planned ten-year stay. And, that in the mid-60s, this
was successfully accomplished. Most of the team members returned and
were debriefed.
Remember the movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind?”
Remember when the government teams set up a landing zone for the
“visitors” and how Army Special Forces personnel assisted with
covert logistics? Remember how 12 people in red jumpsuits were
transported to the LZ for boarding? The entries on serpo.org allege
that this is based on fact.
In addition, the information posted there and elsewhere
indicates that the government has been struggling since the 1940s to
figure out how to break this kind of information to the general
public without creating anxiety and negative disruption. According
to the information, various efforts have been underway over the
decades to gradually prepare us for this reality.
Well, do you buy it? It would make a good novel or movie,
that’s for sure. Is it possibly true or is it just someone’s
imagination and a bunch of warmed-over stories from movies, writings
and UFO lore?
If there was some truth to it, how would Americans and the
rest of humankind react? Would we have open minds and hearts toward
friendly visitors? Would we be afraid? Would we feel intimidated if
they had more advanced technology and knowledge? Would we hate them
because they look different and have different beliefs?
Undoubtedly, it would add more complexity to our view of
things. Not only do we have trouble getting along with other
countries and other people who are different, now we would really
need to be tolerant and open-minded. And, are their other kinds of
"visitors" who are not quite so friendly, or even
dangerous in some way?
This could explain why our government officials might have
thought it wise to keep information like this from the general
public.
According to information on the serpo.org site, there are
responsible people in and out of government who may now believe that
the time is right for more gradual disclosure of information about
this situation. These people, people with compassion and vision,
could feel that we might now be ready to obtain some understanding
of the situation and react responsibly and with intelligence.
Of course, it could all be bunk. There may be no truth to it
at all. Probably not. Right?
FROM: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=4163
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11-24-05
Hi Bill,
Good points, I would see propositions 2 or 3 for Anon as the most
likely.
As for Strawberry ice cream? See, http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/strawberries_boost_performance.htm
And, yes, you're right, they can manipulate space-time but not for time
travel as you mentioned. It's been a hypothesis by some I've talk to
that the Aliens are able speed time up or down using a Space-time bubble
which is why they can go through walls and windows as reported. This is
not NEW Physics. It is the ability to manipulate the laws of Physics.
Many people see this manipulation as some new law which it isn't....Have
a nice one.....Robert C
Bill Ryan wrote:
Nearly
50 years ago, Eric Frank Russell wrote “Allamagoosa”, the funniest
science fiction short story it’s ever been my delight to read. In
this exquisite little tale, the captain of a space cruiser is notified
that there is to be a mandatory routine inventory inspection. It’s a
hassle, but he must comply. After days of work, everything is
accounted for except for one item, which reads simply: “offog,
one”.
No-one can explain the offog and no-one has a clue what it is. Fearful
of admitting to his superiors that the item has been lost, he
fabricates a little white lie that he’s awfully sorry, but the offog
had disintegrated in a hyperspace jump. The story ends with the
captain staring at an urgent telex recalling every ship in the
galactic fleet – at a cost of trillions of dollars – pending an
investigation into the disintegration of the ship’s official dog.
So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another “gross consistency”. It
rings true that Anon reports this faithfully but does not know what it
is. Neither do I: I’ve been staring at my keyboard looking at every
combination of typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well be an
acronym – but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members might
guess what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N.,
DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify?
Here’s one more.
In Dan Sherman’s book, “Above Black”, in which he reveals how he
was groomed and trained as a telepathic communicator with a race of
ETs whom he received information from and about but never actually
met, Sherman states that he learned that 'time' – as we humans know
it – does not have the same meaning for "them".
They still age as we do but are not bound by the physics of time as we
currently are. Their means of travel across vast distances is heavily
dependent on the manipulation of time but not as we perceive it.
Sherman asked if they can travel through time: e.g., can they go
backward-or-forward in time? He was told that it was not possible to
witness a reality that occurred in some other time but the present. In
order to go back in time, one must assume that there exists a
reference point from which to measure backward or forward. This is an
impossibility. Essentially, they weren't able to travel through time
but around time and from time. Sherman says he never
really understood what this meant. Their mode of propulsion was
somehow that they used “time" and electromagnetic energy. Also
they said that our sun was very unique; and that someday we would
understand how it really worked and how we could utilize the same
methods that they themselves use but on a smaller scale.
(references: http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Sherman_1.doc,
http://www.aboveblack.com%29/
There are other candidates for “gross consistencies”, but I’ll
keep my powder dry for the moment. I’m noting them carefully. The
problem, of course, with these is that they might also be reasons to
dismiss everything. It’s like strawberry ice cream. I lean to
thinking that (like the anomalous orbital data) that’s so absurd it
has to be true, because no-one would dare invent it. The false
information component of disinformation has to be credible for the
purpose of the disinformation to be achieved.
Logically there are four possibilities:
1) Anon is a pathological prankster and the reported data is
either all invented or clumsily culled from other sources and added to
a wild novelistic story.
2) Anon is operating to an agenda and the information is
deliberately distorted, but contains a core of extraordinary truth.
3) Anon is doing his best to report data from an indirect source
(personal notes, his own short or long term memory, or another
person), but accidental errors, omissions and additions have occurred.
4) Anon is reporting everything faithfully and accurately as
best he can present it.
Only possibility (1) means everything should be rejected. The other
three necessarily mean that the story deserves close attention.
Victor/Anon, keep it all coming.
Best wishes to all – Bill
~~~~~~~
Enilil and Enki (Stargate) is only the story of Gilgamesh,
the Sumerian epic rehashed. 'According to Sumerian texts' is to
misrepresent the situation.
Kelly
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
-Holiday, Green Day
('This song isn't anti-American, it's anti-WAR')
On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Dee777@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/21/2005 5:03:29 AM Pacific Standard
Time,
> bill.ryan@virgin.net writes:
>> So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another “gross
consistency”. It rings true that Anon reports this faithfully but
does not know what it is.
>> Neither do I: I’ve been staring at my keyboard looking at
every combination of typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well
be an
>> acronym – but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members
might guess what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N.,
>>DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify? E.din, Land of
Righteousness In ancient E.din we find our creation, our Creator.
Through >>the calendar of Appointed Time at Giza the ancients
gave us the addressees of a message, ...
>> www.edinnet.com/
>
> The Real Story Behind The Movie Stargate. 2
> Sitchin's book called "The Twelfth Planet" tells about
this. ... E.DIN was Enlil's domain and contained a spaceport that
shipped the gold to a permanent ...
> www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/
real_story_behind_the_movie_star2.htm
>
> The Cosmic Code - Hidden Mysteries
> ... recorded the even in the tale of Adam and Eve in the Garden
of Eden (the Sumerian E.DIN), ... author: Zecharia Sitchin. paperback
> Price: $7.99+shipping ...
> www.hiddenmysteries.com/item200/item244.html
>
> Adam and Eve
> After a long period of time (Sitchin reckons the date as 300000
BCE), According to the Sumerian texts, Enlil created an E.DIN, a
special place where new ...
> www.halexandria.org/dward191.htm
>
> Dee
~~~~~~~~
For what's it worth. Origin of the
word SERPO.
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Sarpa (Sanskrit) [from the verbal
root srip to wriggle, creep, crawl] Serpent; the serpent has ever
symbolized in occultism wisdom, immortality -- therefore renewed
birth -- and secret knowledge; hence sarpa is applied to an
initiate, as is naga (Sanskrit serpent). "There is a notable
difference esoterically between the words Sarpa and Naga, though
they are both used indiscriminately. Sarpa (serpent) is from the
root Srip, serpo serpo to creep; and they are called 'Ahi,' from
Ha, to abandon. 'The sarpa was produced from Brahma's hair, which,
owing to his fright at beholding the Yakshas, whom he had created
horrible to behold, fell off from the head, each hair becoming a
serpent. They are called Sarpa from their creeping and Ahi because
they had deserted the head' (Wilson). But the Nagas, their
serpent's tail notwithstanding, do not creep, but manage to walk,
run and fight in the allegories" (SD 2:181-2n).
Sarpa was the original Sanskrit
term for a snake or serpent, whereas naga, although likewise
signifying a snake or serpent -- which it does consistently
throughout the range of Sanskrit literature -- nevertheless early
became identified in mystical thought with initiates because of
their power of casting off physical body after physical body
almost at will. Both terms therefore signify serpent or snake, and
both later were used almost indiscriminately to signify initiates;
nevertheless, because of habit or use, naga is the more common
term for a full initiate, sarpa in this sense being of less
frequent usage.
Just as the forces of nature are in
themselves neutral, and become "good" or "bad"
as they are used by individuals, similarly so is a symbol usable
in a good or a bad sense. In the use of nagas and sarpas, the
Brothers of Light are properly called nagas, and the Brothers of
Darkness are more properly called sarpas, as the root srip which
means to wriggle, hence to insinuate, to creep in by stealth and
deceive. Both the Brothers of Light and of Darkness are focuses of
power, subtlety, wisdom, and knowledge; in the one case rightly
and nobly applied, and in the other wrongly applied. The former
are the nagas or serpents of light: subtle, wise, and with power
to cast off the garment or vehicle when the body has grown old and
to assume another at will. The latter are more strictly the sarpas
or serpents of darkness, insinuating, worldly wise, selfishly
shrewd, deceitful, venomous, and dangerous, and yet possessing the
same powers, but in less degree, and using them wrongly, thus
deceiving human hearts and succeeding in their work often by lies
and misrepresentations. Nevertheless, precisely because nagas and
sarpas are used almost indiscriminately, either word may apply
both to the servants of light or of darkness.
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Allamagoosa (and Dan Sherman)
So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another
“gross consistency”. It rings true that Anon reports this
faithfully but does not know what it is. Neither do I: I’ve
been staring at my keyboard looking at every combination of
typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well be an acronym
– but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members might guess
what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N.,
DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify?
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Aloha Don and Robert,
From Dr. Salla
12-16-05
I'd like to point out that the
completion of an affidavit does have legal status that helps clarify
issues considerably when it comes to a
witness's alleged activities and their credibility. This makes it easier for researchers
to reach accurate conclusions in complex cases
like Project Serpo
and Dan Burisch which contain numerous claims, and are almost certainly seeded with
disinformation. In the case
of Philip Corso, he completed an affidavit
with Peter Gersten to be on the record for a CAUS action against the U.S. Army to
learn the
truth about the Roswell crash. I attach a copy a Corso's
affidavit below.
While an affidavit doesn't prove the
truth of the alleged witness's claims, it at least is a formal record
that can be used to assess the
credibility of the witness and to weed out possible disinformation. From a researchers
perspective, an affidavit is stronger than hearsay
testimony that can
be easily
changed or seeded with disinformation. So far what I have seen
concerning Project Serpo is much hearsay
testimony. I think Don makes
a good point that those supporting the veracity of the Planet Serpo story might
have greater credibility
if they came forward with affidavits. These
affidavits could then be forwarded to Bill Ryan as part of the official record on the
website
he has created. To make this more of a legal process, the
affidavits might be collected as part of an effort to initiate a Congressional
investigation into the Project Serpo affair.
In peace
Michael Salla
***Peter
A. Gersten, Esq.
Attorney for Plaintiff
Arizona Bar #016925
Sedona, Arizona 86351
UNITED
STATES DISTRICT COURT
THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
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CITIZENS
AGAINST UFO SECRECY, INC.
7349 Via Paseo Del Sur #515-194
Scottsdale, Arizona 85258
(602) 818-8248
Plaintiff,
v.
DEPARTMENT OF ARMY
Defendant,
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CIV98-0538PHXROS
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AFFIDAVIT
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I, Col. Philip J. Corso, (Ret.) do hereby swear, under the
penalties of perjury, that the following statements are true:
That at all times hereinafter mentioned, I was a member and officer of
the defendant.
That during my tenure with the defendant I was a member of President
Eisenhower’s National Security Council and
former head of the Foreign Technology Desk at defendant’s Research
& Development department.
That on or about July 6, 1947, while stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas,
I personally observed a four-foot non-human
creature with bizarre-looking four-fingered hands, thin legs and feet,
and an oversized incandescent light bulb-shaped
head. The eye sockets were oversized and almond shaped and pointed
down to its tiny nose. The creature’s skull was
overgrown to the point where all its facial features were arranged
frontally, occupying only a small circle on the lower
part of the head. There were no eyebrows or any indications of facial
hair. The creature had only a tiny flat slit for a
mouth and it was completely closed, resembling more of a crease or
indentation between the nose and the bottom
of the chinless skull than a fully functioning orifice.
That in 1961, I came into possession of what I refer to as the
‘Roswell File.’ This file contained field reports, medical
autopsy reports and technological debris from the crash an
extraterrestrial vehicle in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
That I have personally read the medical autopsy reports which refer to
the autopsy of the previously described
creature that I saw in 1947 at Fort Riley, Kansas.
That said autopsy reports indicated the autopsy was performed at
Walter Reed Hospital, which was under the
authority of the defendant at the time of the autopsy.
That said autopsy report referred to the creature as an
‘extraterrestrial biological entity.’
__________________________
Colonel Philip
J. Corso (ret.)
Sworn before me
this day of ___ May, 1998.
On 12/16/05,
<Figaro@gemair.com>
wrote:
Dear Don
This has been said many times but, Gene Loscowski, Paul McGovern,
Rick Doty, Ed Doty and a retired AF
Colonel in DC known to Bill
Ryan have all said the SERPO story is true. That makes 5 to your
one. They all
worked at Area 51 at some point. Paul McGovern says
he worked with these Aliens and there is no Clean
Sphere or sick
Alien, it's bogus he says......
Best...
Robert C
Don Deppeller wrote:
Dear Robert;
I'm taking the liberty of copying our ongoing debate with
the rest of the 'list' that brought the Serpo story to my
attention,
and my subsequent replies that contrasted that
story (which Dan has gone on record to describe as a disinfo
op "dress
rehearsal") with Dan's Affidavit, which
we are currently wrangling over. I think you have
raised the sorts of questions
which many in the 'mainstream'
will raise when they are confronted with Dan's debriefing
and Disclosure announcement
next year, and so this is an
opportunity for others to weigh in (hopefully with courtesy)
and also learn from. Even if our
dialog ends with
today's responses, I trust they have been illustrative to
the list.
Regards,
Don
________________
Following my initial email introduction to this list, Robert
replied:
Dear Don,
Thank you for all your fine words but I'll cut the chase
here. A couple questions, who else knows about this
"Clean
Sphere?" Please supply us with names so Mr
Doty can check those names.. And, do you really think that
an Affidavit
will demonstrate any real sincerity from the
person who signed it? Does in fact such an Affidavit really
show proof of
anything?
Regards
Robert Collins
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Dear Robert,
The many that know about the "Clean Sphere" and
how it was constructed (I myself have seen a huge and
detailed diagram/"artist's rendition" notated by
those familiar with it) will be involved in Dan's ongoing
debriefing. There will be quite a bit about the
"Clean Sphere" not only in the debriefing but in
the documentary that will be focusing on Dan's time with
the J-rod. I'm not going to force Dan's hand here;
he has a specific timetable, and the world will find out together. When it does, it will have more than
enough corroborative information that it won't need anyone
to 'investigate'; all of that will have been done to the
nth degree. Hence the long delay.
As for whether an Affidavit demonstrates sincerity;
legally, an affidavit is 'presumptively correct'. That means that it
is considered absolutely true until
someone can come along and disprove it, which would
warrant legal charges of perjury
on the person swearing to
the Affidavit. Dan alludes to this in his response
to Rick. So yes, it demonstrates sincerity. Dan is and
was fully prepared to be cross-examined by the
Crown or Congress, depending on where the Affidavit ends
up.
One of the reasons for having 2 former members of Majestic
there as secondary witnesses to the signer of the
Affidavit during cross-examination is in the event the one
tack is used that could undercut such an historic
statement, which is that the deponent is 'insane' or
otherwise too mentally ill to swear to a truthful
statement. The additional 2 witnesses will attest to
Dan's "sanity, sobriety, efficacy, authenticity,
honesty and truthfulness". We also have a copy
of Dan's psychiatric evaluation, just as the Court had
asked for mine. Seemingly-fantastic claims require
equally-demonstrative sanity and sobriety; hence the Dept
of Justice's squirming to avoid having to cross-examine
Dan.
Hope that helped.
Regards,
Don
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Dear Don,
Who are these many people? I'm sure Mr Doty would love to
hear from
them. He'd probably love getting a copy of your
"construction diagram"
for his investigation. As for the Affidavit if you presume
it's correct
I can assure you others don't
feel the same way. And, who
are these so
called two former Majestic members?
Regards
Robert Collins
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Dear Robert,
Let me emphasize that Dan's debriefing will have copious
amounts of data regarding the "Clean Sphere".
Mr. Knapp has attempted to force the issue by running his
first show on Dan recently, but as you've heard Dan won't
be forced to reveal these things before the right time.
Because all of the data along with the personnel allowed
to speak openly will be included in the
debriefing,
there's no need for Rick or anyone else to try to
'investigate' that which will be fully and thoroughly
vetted with all manner of corroboration when the job is
complete.
Again, on the matter of the Affidavit; American
jurisprudence contains the concept of 'presumptively
correct' when it comes to oaths made in affidavits.
That is, you can run from it, hide from it, and shrilly
pout 'it can't be true', but an affidavit is indeed "presumptively correct" and accepted as truthful
until tested. The same holds true in Canada, but up
here there is a more
selective application of precedence;
here, the concept is known as 'fundamental justice',
whereby an eyewitness who swears to a fact or set of facts
is presumed truthful (until proven perjurious) simply
because without that assumption, swearing a legal
oath
would mean nothing. Sorry, that IS the law.
People may not like it because of the implications, but
the flip side of that
coin is that if you are able to
prove that the facts sworn
to are
fraudulent, that the
oath was made with intention to deceive, then the original
deponent is up for some SERIOUS charges of perjury.
Dan would not have agreed to the terms I outlined
in that
first Form 255 if he were lying, knowing that he could be
jailed for up to 20 years for perjury if a skillful lawyer
was able to prove he lied.
You may want to check with a good lawyer friend to ask
about the concept of 'presumptively correct', since
without that concept, no eyewitness evidence would hold
water in any civil OR criminal proceeding.
Regards,
Don
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Dear Don,
Heard all that before. In fact I've heard the same type of
stories going back years about the "right time."
Sorry Don but
this sounds like
politics as usual. Yes, there
are good reasons for an independent investigation. And
again, as for the Affidavit you may say all that but you'd
have to force the issue of perjury and perjury over Aliens
would get laughed out of court.
Regards
Robert C
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Dear Robert;
Then let me parse it for you. You've heard what
"same type of stories"? About a J-rod?
Hadn't you just asked me about who else is talking about
J-rods and a "Clean Sphere"? Or simply
that the truth would come out at the "right
time"? Yes, it's frustrating, but I know for a
fact that over 100 hours of video has been taken of Dan
telling in explicit detail and methodically virtually
every facet of his time working for Majestic and in
particular the J-rod. I know that Dan and his 'team'
(not to confused with those of us 'outsiders' who are
merely following the 'saga') have been gathering tons of
corroborative data, setting up meetings with the relevant
folks who can validate Dan in virtually every walk of
life, collecting the flotsam and jetsam that puts flesh on
the whole thing ( e.g. spare parts for the enclosed
'scooters' that were used to transport the ET dignitaries
from
their flying craft to the inside of the facilities
where the
treaty negotiations took place), etc.
There is a definite date for the Disclosure announcement
during 2006, and a not-so-definite time- frame for the
release of the contents of the debriefing (Dan thinks it
can be accomplished fairly early, say even February,
whereas his team members feel that it may take until April or May). In fact, this is even recounted in general
terms on at least one surveillance tape of their meetings
held in Las Vegas that was sent to me. So, to answer
your allusion, it will NOT be as vague as "sometime
in the future".
It's my understanding too that there will be a number of
earth changes and related phenomenon that will aid in
validating the timing.
As for the Affidavit, once again; the challenge is for
others to take up the gauntlet and press the issue upon
the relevant authorities. That Affidavit is only
'presumptively correct' in a court of appeal for my
personal immigration case; the appeal to the Supreme Court will also show the wider public interest that is reflected
in the admission of the facts alleged; the next step is to
have Intervenors then go to the legislature and demand
that if this document is allowed to stand, then the
implications demand that they 'open an investigation', and
by the time a responsive legislature
initiates a hearing as to the facts, well let's just say
that a LOT will happen.
Also; why would "debate over aliens" get
"laughed out of court"? Because the
subject is too complex for some of the simpletons on the bench to understand? Why does it alwys have to
be the subject of ridicule? That's how they
reinforce our discussion, by playing up to our naivete and
reacting negatively against anything that actually
WOULD suggest aliens seriously. You may not have
received a copy of the June 12th, 2005 Majestic session,
wherein J announced "Gentlemen, if Majestic is the
brains behind the Coverup, the ufoology community is its
gonads....". People in that 'community' are so
sensitized by any reference 'out of the ordinary' that
they actually help perpetuate the loonie-bin mentality
because they're afraid of coming off just as bad by
comparison.
Just some considerations; what it does show (and you had
it posted on your own site, I noticed, Robert) is that,
PENDING
EXAMINATION (and it carries with it a 'presumption
of correctness') the Affidavit can be safely used to
account for much more
than just my personal circumstances.
Regards,
Don
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Dear Don,
That Affidavit was witnessed by a notary which only says
the signature is real and nothing about the content. And,
if you don't believe it would get laughed out of court
then try it a few times. Also, you speak about over
a 100 hours of video with DB testifying? They also
have hundreds of hours of people testifying before
congress in the smallest details who were later found to
be lying. That Q94 document already speaks volumes since
three expert Microbiologist (one at the National Academy
of Sciences) have declared it a word salad.
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Dear Robert;
I knew this wouldn't be easy. Yes, it's true that
you aren't compelled by law to admit the authenticity of
that affidavit. As I posted on the Stargate Forum,
an affidavit is nonetheless 'presumptively correct',
just as a check - once presented for payment - is
presumed to be valid. The fight is to get it
'cashed', so to speak, which is why the Canadian gov't.
is arguing before the court that they shouldn't have to
'cash' it. Therefore, if you insist on hiding your
head in the sand, you are legally enabled to do so and
are not compelled to recognize it. By the same
token, I can also insist that it is true until
it is challenged (and possibly found wanting).
Affidavits are legal currency in the judicial economy
just as checks are legal currency in the financial one. Don't like it? Then don't accept
payment. Support those who attempt to run from getting paid.
Otherwise, as a true skeptic,
you can say "hey,
these are fantastic claims; if true, they impact the
body politic and we should find out if indeed they ARE true or not". This is why I suggested that
the 'interested few' join in as Intervenors in the
appeal. I mean, you would certainly want to know
if they're true, right? Just because they may not
fit your existing paradigm doesn't preclude the
possibility that what is being represented isn't triue,
and as a truthseeker you should want to know if you also
have been bamboozled over the years, right? Or am
I wrong?
As for the videotape of 'hundreds of others testifying
before Congress', let them fight that battle. If
you are that concerned, I would have expected to see you
and others on this email list take up that fight in the
legal arena just as I am doing in this case. Personally I don't doubt that there ARE many hours of
videotaped testimony, but like the CBS story on Bush's
Nat'l. Guard (lack of) service, just because there
wasn't 'complete authentication' doesn't mean that the
facts contained therein are untrue (a reference to the
'found to be lying' inference). Another factor is
what I addressed in a previous reply, which is that a
'Fact',
if expressed behind a gov't. podium, carries
more weight and 'authenticity' than if expressed by a
dishevelled fanatic wearing it on a sandwich board and
toting a bullhorn on a street corner. The choice
of podium doesn't make the Fact more or less truthful,
only that there is a legally unfounded level of
acceptance that is therefore determined.
As to the Q94 document; I too can muster a cluster of aspiring
physicists at the local junior high-school and ask
them for an analysis of Einstein's Theory of Relativity,
and they too could quite easily claim that it's all a
"word salad". Face it: there ARE
no peers in the field of extraterrestrial biology that
are qualified to weigh in on the Q94 document.
Please find at least one that has worked with an
extraterrestrial and the public would willingly consider
their pronouncements of whether the Q94 is a
"word
salad" or not. Furthermore, the Q94 document
was never intended to be "peer-reviewed" so
that it could take its place
in the New England Journal
of Medicine or similar publication. You can't
continue to use metric yardsticks when either imperial is called for or no yardstick is expected, only results.
Finally, to get back to the issue of being 'laughed out
of court'; since when does fear of ridicule stymy the
true researcher? Yes, I am not only laughed at but
attacked constantly, and I fully expect it to get worse
before it gets better. This is one of the primary
reasons for the previous glacial pace of 'Disclosure';
fear of ridicule. Test the waters; don't assume
they're too hot or cold for your liking.
And enjoy the show, always. As Dan would say,
"the beat goes on".
Regards,
Don
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Hi Don, see my remarks below...Robert C
Don Deppeller wrote:
Dear Robert;
I knew this wouldn't be easy. Yes, it's true
that you aren't compelled by law to admit the
authenticity of that affidavit. As I posted on
the Stargate Forum, an affidavit is nonetheless
'presumptively correct', just as a check - once
presented for payment - is presumed to be valid.
The fight is to get it 'cashed', so to speak, which is
why the Canadian gov't. is arguing before the court
that they shouldn't have to 'cash' it.
Therefore, if you insist on hiding your head in the
sand, you are legally
enabled to do so and are not
compelled to recognize it. By the same token, I
can also insist that it is true until it is
challenged
(and possibly found wanting). Affidavits are legal currency in the judicial economy
just as checks are legal currency in the
financial
one. Don't like it? Then don't accept
payment. Support those who attempt to run from
getting paid. Otherwise, as a true skeptic, you
can say "hey, these are fantastic claims; if
true, they impact the body politic and we should find
out if indeed they ARE true or not". This
is why I suggested that the 'interested few' join in
as Intervenors in the appeal. I mean, you would
certainly want to know if they're true, right?
Just because they may not fit your existing paradigm
doesn't preclude
the possibility that what is being
represented isn't true, and as a truthseeker you
should want to know if you also have been
bamboozled
over the years, right? Or am I wrong?
Many would not agree that an
Affidavit is "presumptively correct." There
are many who have done
Affidavits but lied....Robert C
As for the videotape of 'hundreds of others testifying
before Congress', let them fight that battle. If
you are that concerned, I would have expected to see
you and others on this email list take up that fight
in the legal arena just as I am doing in this case. Personally I don't doubt that there ARE many hours of
videotaped testimony, but like the CBS story on Bush's
Nat'l. Guard (lack of) service, just because there
wasn't 'complete authentication' doesn't mean that the
facts contained therein are untrue (a reference to the
'found to be lying' inference). Another factor
is what I addressed in a previous reply, which is that
a 'Fact',
if expressed behind a gov't. podium, carries
more weight and 'authenticity' than if expressed by a
dishevelled fanatic wearing it on a sandwich board and
toting a bullhorn on a street corner. The choice
of podium doesn't make the Fact more or less truthful, only that there is a legally unfounded level of
acceptance that is therefore determined.
Sorry, but I see the above as sort
of posturing with no really convincing
arguments......Robert C
As to the Q94 document; I too can muster a cluster of aspiring
physicists at the local junior high-school and
ask them for an analysis of Einstein's Theory of
Relativity, and they too could quite easily claim that
it's all a "word salad". Face it:
there ARE no peers in the field of extraterrestrial
biology that are qualified to weigh in on the Q94
document. Please find at least one that has
worked with an extraterrestrial and the public would
willingly consider their pronouncements of
whether the Q94 is a "word salad" or not.
Furthermore, the Q94 document was never intended to be
"peer-reviewed" so that it could take its
place in the New England Journal of Medicine or
similar publication. You can't continue to use
metric yardsticks when either imperial is
called for
or no yardstick is expected, only results.
These experts are not from a local
High School. Bad comparison, the National Academy of
Sciences is not
a High School. Terms used in that Q94
document can be found in any Microbiology reference.
They are
not EBE terms. The best experts would know if
the Q94 made any sense biologically since Biological
Laws
are universal, it didn't........Robert C
Finally, to get back to the issue of being 'laughed
out of court'; since when does fear of ridicule stymy
the true researcher? Yes, I am not only laughed
at but attacked constantly, and I fully expect it to
get worse before it gets better. This is one of
the primary reasons for the previous glacial pace of
'Disclosure'; fear of ridicule. Test the waters;
don't assume they're too hot or cold for your liking.
It doesn't but then again you won't
get very far.....
Regards
Robert C
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Dear Robert;
You said:
"Many would not agree that an Affidavit is
"presumptively correct." There are many who
have done Affidavits but lied."
My response would be that it may come down to making
that argument in court. The weight of an article
of currency being true is favored, versus an
assumption it is not true. Most legal scholars
would agree that this basic principle is one of the
foundations of the requisite faith in institutions
that is required for an orderly society. The
obverse is that to have those articles proved
fraudulent carries stiff penalties. It's true
that some affidavits may be fraudulent, just as there are many checks presented for payment to merchants the
world over that are fraudulent, but they are a
significant minority proportionate to the total.
(In the advent of a world-wide catastrophic
Depression, this may change.)
You go on to characterize my comments regarding the
positioning of Facts and the telling of them as
"posturing"; that
is your opinion and you
are certainly welcome to it. If you insist on
not recognizing the possibility > plausibility > probability that the facts as alleged in the Affidavit
are true, I will not attempt to dissuade you. I
will also stand just as firmly for the reverse, as the
consequences of the document have a real cost in the
real world - to me and my family, personally.
You then say:
"These experts are not from a local High School.
Bad comparison, the National Academy of Sciences is
not a High School. Terms used in that Q94 document can
be found in any Microbiology reference. They are not
EBE terms. The best experts would know if the Q94 made
any sense biologically since Biological Laws are
universal, it didn't."
I demur; at this point it is merely 'opinion', as one
man's treasure is another man's junk. Until you
find a qualified microbiologist that has a familiarity
with an extraterrestrial physiology, the point is
mute. To use yet another crude analogy; an
engineer at Ford, schooled in the classic internal
combustion engine, isn't qualified to adjudge the
efficacy of Toyota's 'hybrid' program.
Robert, I don't know if you have read the following
exchange with one of Dan's actual
"classmates"; a "peer" as it were.
The following synopsis is taken from the conference to
be found at:
The
biologist in question seems to have been a fellow
student and peer of Dan during his studies (1987-1989),
presumably at SUNY in
Stony Brook.
Biologist
X: Okay,
I have been provided with a copy of the so called Lotus
Protocol and the 18 page document posted on BJ's site. I
have
some concerns about the protocols employed, but not
because they appear wacked out, but because there
appears to be multiple levels
of protocols being
employed simultaneously.
Throughout the work, this
guy alludes to other forms and "pursuant to other
protocols." I think we are dealing with
paperwork
that was never meant to hit the light of day. Certainly
no self respecting peer reviewed journal would publish
it, under current guidelines.
This
doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense though, although
I wish it made a little less sense as it is giving me
some problems with cell
origins theory.
His
work appears to bear multiple logic levels and
interdisciplinary ability on the level I figured he was
bound, all those years ago.... Well,
not if you take his
theory into account. .... A change occurred in his
ideology.
The
Lotus Protocol was one of those papers that seems
predicated on a set of procedures not mentioned. As I
cannot independently confirm the existence of the group
that he is allegedly working with, I cannot say for
certain that such a set of protocols exists. However, if
he does,
it seems reasonable that we are dealing with
what I have heard called upper-user reports. I am
confused where StarFlower begins and Lotus ends?
In
the Lotus Protocol, he set out to establish a
longitudinal study to test the serial endosymbiotic
theory of eukaryote cell origins.
BJ
WOLF: George, you mentioned a change of ideology that
took place with Dan back in 1987 or so. That
was when he
was working on something about cells in brackish
water.....
It
appears from his reports that soon after, a series of
events began taking place at his research site, that
swayed the procedures toward...
well hold on just a
second...
When
I knew him, we were both graduate students taking what
amounted to a structural biology course. He shared very
little with me about
his research intentions at that
time. I will leave the institution out of this, but safe
to say we were both trying to get the attention of the
prof,
I'll put him to his initials WL, and roomed near
each other in the Schomburg area. We (or at least I)
were more concerned with getting
ahead...
He
seemed to have the golden spoon with all those people
following him around."
_________________________________________________________________________________________
I hope this helps as we grapple with the issues.
Regards,
Don
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Dear
All –
12-16-05
I
found this intriguing, lucid and intelligent post on the Above Top
Secret Forum (this page:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=185069&page=12)
and is worth reading carefully in its entirety.
The writer posts under the moniker “Centrist” and is a patent
attorney by profession. He also holds a Master's Degree in Chemical
Engineering from Rensselar Polytechnic Institute. He can be contacted at
waynej@speakerbuilder.net and I’ve
included him on the
cc list of this message.
Best
wishes, Bill Ryan
It's very easy to get caught in the allure of these stories. They're
interesting, sometimes well-crafted, and (most of all) I think that
many
of us want to believe that they're true.
This case is particularly compelling because, even if it is a hoax, it
is well-planned in that it pulls together elements from other stories
quite well and makes it all fit together like a nice puzzle. For
example, the detail about the SOM-1.01 being an annex to the "Red
Book"
makes you believe that this "Red Book" exists and
may actually be in Anon's possession, given that various Ufologists
believe that the
SOM is authentic.
Further, from an "is this possible" perspective, I offer you
this brief analysis which (at least to me) suggests that disclosure may
actually be possible. Not likely, but possible...
Here we go.
A theory suggesting why the Project Serpo Disclosure may be
genuine
A little known fact is that in October 2000, it was five-years from
the effective date of
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/52001ph1_0500/p5200ph1.pdf
Executive Order 12958 (begins on page 19 of the linked file) -- signed
by Bill Clinton and mandating the automatic declassification
of all
government documents over 25 years old UNLESS the agency which
classified the document asserts that certain documents
are exempt from
disclosure.
Section
3.4 of EO 12958
http://uploads.abovetopsecret.com/ats27876_EO_S34.jpg
President
Clinton signed EO 12958 on April 17, 1995. The effective date of
the Order was set to be 180 days from the date which
he issued the
order. That means that certain documents were declassified, by
Presidential proclamation, early in October, 2000.
Thereafter,
many documents because declassified by proclamation on the 25th
anniversary of their classification.
Of course, during that 180 days between the signing of the order and
its effective date, each agency head was supposed to inform
the
president's office of any exempted file "series". This
is done through the Assistant to the President for National Security
Affairs.
Interestingly, it was Eisenhower (who was President at
the time much of Project Serpo is alleged to have occurred) that created
this position. http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/hadleybio.html
Stephen J. Hadley now serves in that capacity for President Bush,
taking
over for Condoleeza Rice earlier this year.
The
staff of the National Security Council is de jure an element of
the Executive Office of the President, but de facto is a
central
element of the White House staff itself. President Eisenhower
created a new position to head that staff: the assistant to the
President for national security affairs; every President since has
continued that office and strengthened the staff. The twenty
senior-most NSC officers have presidential titles and rank; the
total staff now numbers nearly two hundred, many of them
detailees
from State, Defense, and CIA. http://www.americanpresident.org/action/national_security
Ok,
so what you ask? I'm glad you asked!
"Project SERPO's" final report was written in 1980
http://www.serpo.org/information.html#5
So... just this year, the Project Serpo documents, if true as alleged,
turned 25 years old and became the subject of automatic
declassification. In other words, unless the Head of the DIA (the
presumed holder of these documents) has identified the Project
Serpo
files (assuming they exist) as being exempt from declassification, then
they have already been automatically declassified.
In other words, http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/bio.asp?bioID=154
Lowell E. Jacoby, the Director of the DIA, had to identify
the files
that were exempted from automatic declassification and then make
a statement to the National Security Council explaining
that the
exempted material fell under an exemption to EO 12958 pursuant to
section. 3.4. Information that meets the following
conditions may
be exempted from declassification, unless the President orders otherwise
(the president can order that the material
be declassified):
(1)
reveal the identity of a confidential human source, or reveal
information about the application of an intelligence source or
method,
or reveal the identity of a human intelligence source when the
unauthorized disclosure of that source would clearly
and demonstrably
damage the national security interests of the United States;
(2) reveal information that would assist in the development or use of
weapons of mass destruction;
(3) reveal information that would impair U.S. cryptologic systems or
activities;
(4) reveal information that would impair the application of state of
the art technology within a U.S. weapon system;
(5) reveal actual U.S. military war plans that remain in effect;
(6) reveal information that would seriously and demonstrably impair
relations between the United States and a foreign
government, or
seriously and demonstrably undermine ongoing diplomatic activities of
the United States;
(7) reveal information that would clearly and demonstrably impair the
current ability of United States Government officials
to protect the
President, Vice President, and other officials for whom protection
services, in the interest of national security,
are authorized;
(8) reveal information that would seriously and demonstrably impair
current national security emergency preparedness plans;
or
(9) violate a statute, treaty, or international agreement.
Now, here's where we get to the very interesting part. First, lets
assume that the DIA exempted all of their UFO/EBE/ET related
information
from declassification. Most likely, Condoleeza Rice, the
predecessor to Stephen Hadley as the head of the NSC, would
have
signed-off on this, most likely without ever knowing what she signed off
on. Then again, maybe not. "Rice was plucked from
academia in 1989 by Brent Scowcroft to serve on the National Security
Council of former President Bush" --
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/17/rice.profile.ap
. More on why this is relevant later.
Stephen Hadley, however, is also an interesting character. First
of all, he's a career intelligence officer going back to the Ford
Administration (I included a link to his bio so you would read it, so
you should have known this already;)). Also, Hadley worked for
Scowcroft's firm in D.C. for a few years and http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/NSChistory.htm#Ford
Scowcroft was the National
Security Advisor to President Ford and seems
to have had a hand in selecting members of the NSC for later Presidents
(such has
his selection of Condi Rice). Not surprisingly,
General Scowcroft http://www.drboylan.com/aviary2.html
is often mentioned as
the present likely head of MJ-12 or its successor,
PI-40.
What if General Scowcroft, being of aging years and perhaps not seeing
the harm in the truth being known, has decided to pledge his
full
"I won't interfere" (as much cooperation as you could expect)
to these people because he knows them and knows that it's very
likely
that if the NSC fights them, this will get very public, very fast.
This administration does NOT need another scandal. But more
on this aspect later, too.
Ok, so what is it that makes me believe that the same old cast of
characters is any more likely to permit disclosure now than at any
other
time in the past? Well, when I came across the following, it got
me thinking.
Sec.
3.1. Definitions. For purposes of this order: (a)
"Declassification" means the authorized change in the status
of information
from classified information to unclassified
information.
(b) "Automatic declassification" means the declassification
of information based solely upon:
(1) the occurrence of a specific date or event as determined by the
original classification authority; or
(2) the expiration of a maximum time frame for duration of
classification established under this order.
(c) "Declassification authority" means:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if
that official is still serving in the same position;
(2) the originator's current successor in function;
(3) a supervisory official of either; or
(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the
agency head or the senior agency official.+
Now,
let’s refer back to what Anon has told us -- that he is part of a
group of former DIA officers. That they are in possession of the
debriefing manual ("Red Book") from a classified government
project. And that Project was formally closed 25 years ago.
Let’s take this one step further. Let’s guess that at least
one member of Anon's group is lawfully in possession of this material,
because
he was the officer that originally classified the Project. If
that's the case, then this person has the authority under EO 12958
to
declassify the information. That would be consistent with Anon's
statement that they are trying to release the information with official
"sanction". This may also mean that they are in contact
with their successors (people they probably trained or selected for
their jobs)
and those people have agreed not to attempt to pursue the
exemption of this material, provided that it is properly purged of
material
which, genuinely, should remain classified.
Sec.
1.5. Classification Categories.
Information may not be considered for classification unless it
concerns:
(a) military plans, weapons systems, or operations;
(b) foreign government information;
(c) intelligence activities (including special activities),
intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology;
(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States,
including confidential sources;
(e) scientific, technological, or economic matters relating to the
national security;
(f) United States Government programs for safeguarding nuclear
materials or facilities; or
(g) vulnerabilities or capabilities of systems, installations,
projects or plans relating to the national security.
Ok,
so going back to the present administration and whether the current NSC
(Stephen Hadley) will authorize the release of this
information. That's
the wildcard. I don't see it happening, but here's what I think
may be the facts...
-- Anon's group has banded together for security. One old guy can
be easily explained away when he passes on in his sleep. But
six,
or more, old guys who have banded together and are keeping records of
their discussions? They've made some of these
discussions public?
AND they can at least make the case that they have some authority
to contest the continued classification of
this material? That
might be harder.
-- I also suggest that these people were, in fact, highly placed DIA
officers. So well connected were they that they were entrusted
with stewardship of this highly-secret information. Respect and
connection of this level would dictate that the current administration
would find it very difficult and highly embarrassing if anything
untowardly came of these people. In fact, many of the aging
leaders
of the military and intelligence communities would probably be
more likely to "rat out" the administration than their old
colleague.
-- From the "PR” side, these guys are probably savvy and told
their predecessors that this can be done in a way that 1) there's no
scandal for this administration (although that pesky democratic
administration that ordered the cover-up may leave a black mark
on the
democratic party! Ha!); and, lets face it, "W" will go along
with any plan that gets his fanny off the fire for Iraq, Katrina,
Scooter Libby, and whatever else he's porked up lately.
Yes... this is "thin". Anorexic, perhaps? I know.
But look carefully at the facts, the law, and the dates. It all
comes together with many exciting consistencies.
The only thing we need now is the proof.
~~~~~~~~
Bill,
I appreciate your comments, but they will still have to explain this:
The SERPO story is falsified from the beginning. Let us look at just a few of
the statements in the light of our observational scientific knowledge as well
as our theoretical knowledge that gives this story a ring of falsity. Why
would they do this?
Quote:
There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben planet is
located within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System [two
5th-magnitude yellow double stars, similar to our Sun located near the Large
Magellanic Cloud]. The planet had two suns but their angles were small and
allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's location.
We have the system identified now, but the statement that it is located near
the Large Magellanic Cloud must be by direction as it is no where in the
vicinity of the LMC which is outside of our galaxy and a satellite thereof,
but then...
Quote:
Statistics on the Eben planet was collected by our team. Here is the pertinent
data for your UFO thread list:
Diameter: 7,218 miles
Mass: 5.06 x 1024
Distance from
Sun #1: 96.5 million miles
Sun #2: 91.4 million miles
Moons: 2
Surface gravity: 9.60m/s2
Rotation Periods: 43 hours
Orbit: 865 days
Tilt: 43 degrees
Temperature: Min: 43° / Max: 126°
Distance from Earth: 38.43 light years
Planet named by Team: SERPO
Nearest planet to SERPO: Named: OTTO
Distance: 88 million miles (colonized by Ebens with research base, but no
natural inhabitants on planet)
Number of planets in Eben Solar System: Six
Nearest inhabited planet to SERPO:
Named: SILUS (SILUS is made up of creatures of various types, but no
intelligent life forms. Ebens use the planet to mine minerals.)
Distance: 434 million miles
Zeta 2 Reticuli is a member of a wide double star system. Zeta 2 Reticuli and
its companion star Zeta 1 Reticuli are at least 350 billion miles apart or
about 100 times more distant than Pluto is to the Sun. They appear to be
moving together through space and probably rotate around a common center every
100,000 years.
As you can see if you add the distance between the 2 suns of SERPO that it
adds up to a little more that 180 million miles apart. The actual separation
between Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 is a factor of about 1944.44X more than the SERPO
figure. The real problem is how can a planet orbit between two suns that are
so close to the planet, approximately in the same range as earth's sun is from
earth?
Exact data that doesn't make scientific sense seems to undermine this story.
As you say, we need proof and sensible data.
Bill Hamilton
AstroScience Research Network
http://www.astrosciences.info/
"I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem
incredible."
Fred Hoyle
~~~~~
Bill & Bill,
I brought that Zeta Reticuli issue up eons ago over the SERPO Story but 116
people complained. Anon is getting his info from an ex-government source so
Anon doesn't really know if it's totally true other than the Core Story. That
binary system fits perfectly but not with Zeta Reticuli. It also fits
perfectly with those numerous pages of calculations that Carl Sagan supposedly
did for an "N-Body" problem by hand mind you, no super computers in
those days. Or, it may really have been Zeta Reticuli and they just threw in
spurious information about a close binary, I really don't know what the intent
was. As I mentioned before, I think the Anon SERPO information has spurious
information in it but it makes perfect sense at other times. Why that
"....." of a government official would do that I don't know if a
credible release was really planned .....Robert C
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12-17-05 -
By Dexxxa
Rick Doty first says:
"Some of us blend a few facts with a lot of fiction as
part of our job to protect our nation's security. We don't
ask questions. We do what is expected of us.
"Others", whose definition of national security may be
different from ours, endlessly sift and resift our fictions in an
effort to find the facts they feel are rightfully theirs. Yet
on those happy occasions when they actually do stumble upon a real
truth, instead of recognizing it for what it is, they immediately
seek to transform it into something it isn't - something THEY
want it to be. And this is good, for now it has become
fiction again, and, although it may be wearing a new coat, it
is as well covered as it was at the beginning. Of course, I am
referring to the Tau-9 treaty.
Mr. Burisch, the person of questionable intelligence and
verifiable ignorance, claims its factual, but has never released it
nor has he stated who signed it. There isn't one single
reference to any treaties with ETs in any USG documents.
"We" all must do what we must do, Mr. Deppeller.
And just as I have no obligations to you, so , in return, you have
none to me. In that sense, some might think we find
ourselves at a standoff - except for one small detail. As in
all games, someone has to make the rules; and in this game, that
someone is not you. For you, there are two choices.
You can play on and do the best you can. Or you can face
reality, recognize that the best you can do isn't going to be near
good enough to win and save yourself and Mr. Burisch a great deal
of future consternation by dropping out here and now. I have
a great deal of information about Mr. Burisch that sits in a
filing cabinet. But its time to open that cabinet and spread
the "Word" about this Mr. Burisch. He cannot win.
Mr. Burisch has been proven to be a liar and his released
documents were proven to be hoaxes. I will air all this and
let the public be the jury; and they lets see who wins.
Let the games begin."
************
Wow! if that isn't clear enough. Don, this reads he's
acknowledging knowing something about the 'Treaty' he earlier denied to
me knowing anything about and is glad it remains for now as a thing
of fiction. As far as what they want the public to be aware the
'Treaty' exposure is not one of them.
Gotcha***
His involvement motive appears purely in effort to dislodge
and make unbelievable Dan's claims. This may not be the case with
some of the other team members. However, they'll probably be used to
help confuse in some other way. SERPO's in the background with this
guy. What an intelligence test. Obviously, Doty's effort, either
through himself or others, will be to release tainted information
about Burisch. It feels to me his low opinion about us on the
highway justify's his thinking he knows our psychology
well enough to expect us to believe what he releases about Dan, despite
our knowing his involvement with the disinfo services aspects of our
Government.
I think his arrogance gave it away. He feels it'll be easy
because it's the way we want to think about Dan anyway. A
suspected 'hoaxer'. I guess a learned expected effect
result on long term debunking candidates..
A continued self-effort by those who oppose classified
information revealing, even though it's been approved by other
directly involved agency members.
This exposed contaminated effort of theirs, straight from the horses
mouth, should help wake up the lot of us and 'further' confirm
the possible reality 'truth' of Dan's claim.
Doty expects to win at his disinfo game.
SERPO's reality, apparently, has been unimportant from the
beginning.
A declassified story line means used to gain our trust, bring us
into their fold of inner circle secret truths, of which,
realistically, isn't there, an illusion created just for us.
Doty's real motive is targeting Dan.
Watch closely everybody as this methodical saga continues to
unfold.
It couldn't have been made clearer to us.
Dex
~~~~~~~~
Reply from Rick Doty
Don't know who you are but I realize you must be a child with a
3rd grade education if you actually think I acknowledge anything
factual regarding the treaty! I would consider your remarks
more like that of an Idiot, that any rational person. I
never acknowledged any truth behind the treaty. The treaty
is a major hoax. Now, if you can't understand that, you need to go
back through the 3rd grade.
~~~~~~~
Dex replies to Rick Doty
Interesting insults Mr. Doty.
I didn't say you said you acknowledge...I said it 'reads'...to
me.
Dex
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12-17-05
by Victor M.
DON DEPPELLER:
I apologize for having taken so long to get back to your thoughtful,
well-considered e-mail regarding Dr Burisch/Crain. I'm still
formulating my own response, but in the meantime, former AFOSI SA
Rick Doty made an inquiry to contacts he still maintains at the DIA
and the following is the response he received. Remember, I'm
only the messenger delivering the message.
As a brief aside, I'd also like to point out that UNlike Dan
Burisch, several key members of the military intell community have
come out on RECORD and stated -- in this public forum -- that such a
"Project SERPO" did in FACT exist and take place. Please
note those names in Capt Bob Collins' carefully crafted response.
The SERPO.org Web site has also been visited by the CIA and this
stream contains one contact at the White House NSC; is Dan's Web
site frequently visited by the CIA and has the White House shown ANY
interest in Dan?
Just asking and thinking aloud....
QUESTION: In support of Dan Burisch's wild claims, name three
(3) high-ranking USG officials who will go on record to validate the
claims
of Mr Burisch. We've given you three (3), so I think my asking
is only fair, don't you? –
------------------------------------------
VICTOR:
I forwarded XXXX XXXX's message regarding Mr. Dan Burisch to my
friend at the DIA. Here is his direct response.
Please feel free to print this in your e-mail UFO Thread List list.
– RICK DOTY
-------------------------------------------
RICK:
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men. The
Cassowary do!
The Cassowary has learned that the touted "Tau-9 Treaty"
is a designator for a trash-dumpster behind building 19 at
Headquarters (DIA), 3rd dumpster on the left, painted heliotrope
with orange stripes, open carefully so as not to disturb the
homeless alien [Eben] sleeping inside.
The purported treaty of the same name is securely taped to the
underside of the dumpster and can only be read when the trash
dumpster is turned upside down on the night of a full moon. Once
done reading it, feel free to PUKE ON THE "TREATY."
Regarding same, one might gently inquire as to just WHO would be
authorized to sign such a document, WHO would do the authorizing,
and exactly HOW in this world or out of it could such a treaty ever
be enforced?!
That otta set, Mr. Burisch on end for a while. After all,
those who claim to have see this delightful piece of FICTION ought
to know WHOSE NAMES WERE ON IT, no?
– DIA Contact
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From: Capt BOB COLLINS, Ret USAF
To: BURISCH SUPPORTER
I ask where is your common sense?
NOTHING Burisch has presented has passed muster; the Q94 is a word
salad, and NONE of the documents presented prove anything.
[Notarized statements mean NOTHING.] You see no serious
discrepancies in Burisch is because you have a whole book devoted to
him. I see real problems with him just like I do with SERPO and
ANONYMOUS.
With SERPO yes there are problems, BUT there are also consistencies.
As far as the basic SERPO story, you left out Rick Doty, Paul
McGovern, Gene Loscowski and that retired AF Colonel in DC; you left
out all those people and just mentioned Rick Doty,... cherry
picking.
I've always pointed things out from the beginning while getting
jumped on for doing so. I've also done the same with Burisch. I go
for the FACTS or EVIDENCE.
If it doesn't compute, I throw it out. That has got nothing to do
with being "open minded," it's the way I work. ANONYMOUS
is a patsy in my estimation. You saw where he is getting his info?
From an ex-government official or so he says. Right there is the
problem I think for the "true/false information."
Ed Doty, Rick Doty, Paul McGovern, Gene Loscowski plus that
retired AF Colonel in DC say the SERPO story happened. That's A LOT
MORE than one Dan Burisch.
I believe the CORE STORY is TRUE, but I have questions about the
details. Don't be so quick to jump when you want to be right as
others do the same.
– RMC
~~~~~~~
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/dondep/000_0538.jpg
From: UFO Thead List Member
VICTOR: One thing to add to what Rick Doty submitted earlier:
The notary was a representative from the Las Vegas MUFON, or so they
say. Does that count for much? I don't think so. That's my opinion.
– SIGN ME
~~~~~~~~
By Bill Ryan
Hi,
Dex –
Many thanks. I don’t properly understand what you mean by the
Serpo “team”. As best I know, there is no phalanx of diehard,
unreasonable Serpo “supporters”. To presume their existence as
such is a misunderstanding. You’ll find most people on this list,
myself included, committed only to whatever the truth is. As long as
Anon keeps on posting, we’ll find out in the end.
I’m not worried about being wrong, because I’m not trying to be
right about anything. I just want us all to work together to look at
all the available data (and it’s not that simple a story, taking
everything into account).
My own position is one of intellectual honesty. More data is needed
to clear up questions asked of each account. If everything were that
obvious, we wouldn’t be debating these issues at such length.
The real challenge is fully understanding what the other person is
trying to say. What would it be like to be holding the other point
of view? Can we each imagine that, even if just or a moment? The
passion which drives us all to debate is fuelled by what unites us
– a commitment for the truth, for disclosure, and to help humanity
as best as we can.
With best wishes to you,
Bill
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12-18-05
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg18825305.800.html
IS STRING THEORY POSSIBLE? KEPLER's LAWS ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!
WHY ARE PHYSICISTS TAKING THE IDEA OF MULTIPLE UNIVERSES SERIOUSLY NOW?
STANFORD UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR LEONARD SUSSKIND WITH THE LATEST THINKING
ON THIS CONTROVERSIAL AREA OF PHYSICS! –
NewScientist.com news service,
Amanda Gefter,
Sunday, 18 December 2005
First, there was the discovery in the past few years that inflation
seems right. This theory that the universe expanded spectacularly in the
first fraction of a second fits a lot of data. Inflation tells us
that the universe is probably extremely big and necessarily diverse. On
sufficiently big scales, and if inflation lasts long enough, this
diversity will produce every possible universe.
The same process that forged our universe in a big bang will happen over
and over. The mathematics are rickety, but that's what inflation
implies: a huge universe with patches that are very different from one
another. The bottom line is that we no longer have any good reason to
believe that our tiny patch of universe is representative of the whole
thing.
Second was the discovery that the value of the cosmological constant --
the energy of empty space which contributes to the expansion rate of the
universe -- seems absurdly improbable, and nothing in fundamental
physics is able to explain why. I remember when Steven Weinberg first
suggested that the cosmological constant might be anthropically
determined -- that it has to be this way otherwise we would not be here
to observe it. I was very impressed with the argument, but troubled by
it.
Like everybody else, I thought the cosmological constant was probably
zero -- meaning that all the quantum fluctuations that make up the
vacuum energy cancel out, and gravity alone affects the expansion of the
universe. It would be much easier to explain if they cancelled out to
zero, rather than to nearly zero. The discovery that there is a non-zero
cosmological constant changed everything. Still, those two things were
not enough to tip the balance for me.
What finally convinced you?
The discovery in string theory of this large landscape of solutions, of
different vacuums, which describe very different physical environments,
tipped the scales for me. At first, string theorists thought there were
about a million solutions. Thinking about Weinberg's argument and about
the non-zero cosmological constant, I used to go around asking my
mathematician friends: are you sure it's only a million? They all
assured me it was the best bet.
But a million is not enough for anthropic explanations - the chances of
one of the universes being suitable for life are still too small. When
Joe Polchinski and Raphael Bousso wrote their paper in 2000 that
revealed there are more like 10500 vacuums in string theory, that to me
was the tipping point. The three things seemed to be coming together. I
felt I couldn't ignore this possibility, so I wrote a paper saying so.
The initial reaction was very hostile, but over the past couple of years
people are taking it more seriously. They are worried that it might be
true.
Steven Weinberg recently said that this is one of the great sea changes
in fundamental science since Einstein, that it changes the nature of
science itself. Is it such a radical change?
In a way it is very radical but in another way it isn't. The great
ambition of physicists like myself was to explain why the laws of nature
are just what they are. Why is the proton just about 1800 times heavier
than the electron? Why do neutrinos exist? The great hope was that some
deep mathematical principle would determine all the constants of nature,
like Newton's constant.
But it seems increasingly likely that the constants of nature are more
like the temperature of the Earth -- properties of our local environment
that vary from place to place. Like the temperature, many of the
constants have to be just so if intelligent life is to exist. So we live
where life is possible.
For some physicists this idea is an incredible disappointment.
Personally, I don't see it that way. I find it exciting to think that
the universe may be much bigger, richer and full of variety than we ever
expected. And it doesn't seem so incredibly philosophically radical to
think that some things may be environmental.
In order to accept the idea that we live in a hospitable patch of a
multiverse, must a physicist trade in that dream of a final theory?
Absolutely not. No more than when physicists discovered that the radii
of planetary orbits were NOT determined by some elegant mathematical
equation, or by KEPLER's idea of nested Platonic solids. We simply have
to reassess which things will be universal consequences of the theory
and which will be consequences of cosmic history and local conditions.
So even if you accept the multiverse and the idea that certain local
physical laws are anthropically determined, you still need a unique
mega-theory to describe the whole multiverse? Surely it just pushes the
question back?
Yes, absolutely. The bottom line is that we need to describe the
whole thing, the whole universe or multiverse. It's a scientific
question: is the universe on the largest scales big and diverse or is it
homogeneous? We can hope to get an answer from string theory and we can
hope to get some information from cosmology.
There is a philosophical objection called Popperism that people raise
against the landscape idea. Popperism [after the philosopher Karl
Popper] is the assertion that a scientific hypothesis has to be
falsifiable, otherwise it's just metaphysics. Other worlds, alternative
universes, things we can't see because they are beyond horizons, are in
principle unfalsifiable and therefore metaphysical -- that's the
objection. But the belief that the universe beyond our causal horizon is
homogeneous is just as speculative and just as susceptible to the
Popperazzi.
Could there be some kind of selection principle that will emerge and
pick out one unique string theory and one unique universe?
Anything is possible. My friend David Gross hopes that no selection
principle will be necessary because only one universe will prove to make
sense mathematically, or something like that. But so far there is no
evidence for this view. Even most of the hard-core adherents to the
uniqueness view admit that it looks bad.
Is it premature to invoke anthropic arguments -- which assume that the
conditions for life are extremely improbable -- when we don't know how
to define life?
The logic of the anthropic principle requires the strong assumption that
our kind of life is the only kind possible. Why should we presume that
all life is like us -- carbon-based, needs water, and so forth? How do
we know that life cannot exist in radically different environments?
If life could exist without galaxies, the argument that the cosmological
constant seems improbably fine-tuned for life would lose all of its
force. And we don't know that life of all kinds can't exist in a wide
variety of circumstances, maybe in all circumstances. It a valid
objection. But in my heart of hearts, I just don't believe that life
could exist in the interior of a star, for instance, or in a black hole.
Is it possible to test the landscape idea through observation?
One idea is to look for signs that space is negatively curved, meaning
the geometry of space-time is saddle-shaped as opposed to flat or like
the surface of a sphere. It's a long shot but not as unlikely as I
previously thought. Inflation tells us that our observable universe
likely began in a different vacuum state, that decayed into our current
vacuum state. It's hard to believe that's the whole story.
It seems more probable that our universe began in some other vacuum
state with a much higher cosmological constant, and that the history of
the multiverse is a series of quantum tunnelling events from one vacuum
to another. If our universe came out of another, it must be negatively
curved, and we might see evidence of that today on the largest scales of
the cosmic microwave background. So the landscape, at least in
principle, is testable.
If we do not accept the landscape idea are we stuck with intelligent
design?
I doubt that physicists will see it that way. If, for some unforeseen
reason, the landscape turns out to be inconsistent -- maybe for
mathematical reasons, or because it disagrees with observation -- I am
pretty sure that physicists will go on searching for natural
explanations of the world.
But I have to say that if that happens, as things stand now we will be
in a very awkward position. Without any explanation of nature's
fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics. One might
argue that the hope that a mathematically unique solution will emerge is
as faith-based as ID.
------------------------------------------
LEONARD SUSSKIND
Leonard Susskind is the Felix Bloch Professor of Theoretical Physics at
Stanford University in California. His book, "Cosmic Landscape:
String
Theory and The Illusion of Intelligent Design," is published this
week
by Little, Brown ($24.95, £14.33, ISBN# 0316155799)
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825305.800&print=true
From Figaro
Victor All, you're mis-reading what the article is saying. In the
closing remarks he says, "Without any explanation of nature's
fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics."
Fine tuning is the key word which means the physical constants are fined
tuned so Kepler's Law is fined tuned for what it does. Please don't act
like the Burisch folks and jump the gun...Thanks...Robert C
From Bill Hamilton
I talked to Linda about this yesterday and she
called the SERPO project a tar baby and I agree with her.I feel sure
that this will end up being what I see it is: disinformation.
Now, that Doty has confessed to continued lying
in the name of National Security - a hilarious admission since his
self-contradictions have done nothing to protect national security -
and since he is now distancing himself from these SERPO revelations, I
think we will soon see the demise of all this.
We now must use critical thinking in continuing
to evaluate data from all sources.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [exopolitics_institute] Fwd: A lawyer's suggestion
documenting why the Project Serpo disclosure may be genuine
Hi Bill, I don't remember. You might want to post
something. I just wanted to forward something to the
advisory board in case some have not been following the
postings that we are following. You might just want to
forward your views.
Regardless of whether this is true or not it is getting the
spooks to come out more of what they know. :-)
Things are looking better for us all the time. This thing
might just break one of these days.
Ed
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12-23-05
MOVIE: "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND"

http://ufocasebook.com/aliennewstag3.jpg
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http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/StudentSites2002/interstellar_travel/negativemass.html
From: A U.S. MILITARY SCIENTIST ON THE UFO THREAD LIST
POINTING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
From: POSTING #11 ["Journal Entries"] and the www.Serpo.org
Web site:
Team Commander: "In the center of these containers is a copper
colored coil or something looking like a coil. There is a bright light
being shined from a point above into the center of the coil. We hear a
very dull hum, but no major loud sounds. 661 thinks it is a NEGATIVE
MATTER versus positive matter system."
AND NOW NASA SAYS,...
INTERSTELLAR SPACE TRAVEL: THE IDEA OF NEGATIVE MASS PROPULSION
The idea of negative mass propulsion was created to eliminate the need
for fuel, since fuel limits the feasibility of interstellar travel so
much. Theoretically, it would allow faster than light travel without
violating Einstein's theory of relativity.
The way this works is it uses gravity to bend space around the
spaceship. A large amount of "negative mass" would be in front
of the ship and a large amount of positive mass would be behind it, and
the masses would curve space in such a way that it'd accelerate the
ship. Apparently, such a process would not violate the conservation of
energy, as the space it is travelling through would be warped.
If this theory were to work, it could be the best form of transportation
available. It has been suggested that it would allow a ship to bypass
the limitations of relativity, and a ship could actually travel to and
from it's destination at speeds far faster than the speed of light
without running into the problem of taking several years to do so.
Unfortunately, we don't even know if negative matter exists, and even
if we did discover it, we'd have to develop a way to turn the effect of
the matter on and off, so the speed of the ship could be controlled.
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/html/warp/ideachev.htm
http://www.dark-planet.com/ortemus/eweasel.htm
--------------------------------------------
INTERSTELLAR SPACE FLIGHT EXPLAINED BY S4 SCIENTIST BOB LAZAR
http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Government_Scientist.htm
UFO THREAD LIST MEMBER WRITES:
VICTOR: Regarding yesterday's POSTING #11 and the Team Members getting
ill enroute to SERPO, it seems like they were in some kind of black
whole or worm whole? Or some gravity distortion produced
by the power source. Twilight zone stuff.
From Bob Lazar:
"In the Delta Configuration, discs operate on all three amplifiers.
This configuration is used in space for long-distance travel.
"In space, a disc tilts over on its back so that the gravitational
amplifiers focus on where the disc is going, and the propulsion system
is powered up, amplifying gravitational waves that are out of phase with
Earth's gravity. The amplified gravitational waves distort space
and time or "Space-Time" as it is referred to in the
documents. That gravity distorts or warps space is currently known
in mainstream physics.
"That is why astronomers, at certain positions during an eclipse,
can see stars that are directly behind the sun (the sun's gravity causes
the star's light to bend around the sun). That gravity distorts
time is also known.
"For example, if you and a friend have atomic clocks synchronized
to each other and your friend climbs a mountain or goes up in an
airplane, the clocks will be out of sync when your friend returns (your
clock is in a stronger gravitational field). In short, the disc
warps space-time, attaches itself to the warp and snaps back.
"Imagine a thin sheet of rubber stretched out (this represents
space). Now, put a ball bearing on the sheet (this represents the
disc). Now, with your fingers under the sheet, pinch the rubber at
a point some distance from the ball bearing.
"Keeping the rubber pinched, move the pinch to the ball bearing.
As you bring the pinch back to its original position, the ball bearing
will follow. This is an analogy of what happens.
~~~~~
When talking with Gene Loscowski he agreed with the LANL source
that it's a "Negative Force Generating System" since he heard
that term used while at Area 51 not Anti-gravity but really, it's the
same thing. The way they create this "Negative Force"
according to the LANL source is through a series of specially configured
super-conducting "capacitors" and "field coils."
They tell us they still haven't figured it out yet. All the technical
details from the LANL source are in the EfD book which even Hal Puthoff
says he doesn't understand which is understandable, since the LANL
sources don't really understand it....Robert C
~~~~~~
Guys,
this message was posted on the Above Top Secret Forum.
They have 41 pages there so far specifically on Serpo: intelligent,
considered, good-natured, creative, amusing, informed debate. Highly
recommended if you’ve not checked it out.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread185069/pg38
*************
Ok... I just went
through today's posting and have compiled every reference to a team
member or specific Eben that comes up. I believe that we can infer their
duties from what has been given so far:
The following list of quotes is from the entry of 21 December on
Serpo.org:
899 and 203 will have overall charge of weapons.
700 and 754 will give each member final check before boarding.
475 really nervous. 700 will watch him.
102 sitting next to me and he is faint.
OK, I guess 203 and myself will sit in different location above these
seats.
420 will try to use his language skills.
899 will taste it. Well, 899 said it tastes like paper.
OK, MVC finally showed up. Told us we will begin trip soon.
Well, 899 figured out how to get out because he is standing up.
899 said a EBE came in and looked at us and left. Other team members
sleeping. 899 and myself walking around this room.
700 and 754 gave us medicine to settle our stomachs.
700 and 754 tells us to eat and drink the water we brought along we are
doing that and feel a little better...
Our date recorder isn't working very well, according to 633. He thinks
we have been going for 10 days but not really sure.
700 and 754, who ate the EBE food didn't seem to be as sick as us.
We drink that and seem to be better, except 518, who seem to be sick.
633 and 661 were really interested in this [command room]. 633 seemed
better.
OK, MVC finally arrived. He explains in broken English, that we are
halfway to home planet.
633 wants to see the engines. MVC takes four of us to the engine room or
whatever they wish to call the room.
From these passages we can begin to figure out the role of each member
of the team:
********************************
Team Commander
102
Assistant Team Commander 203 Weapons duties
Team Pilot #1
225
Team Pilot #2
308
Linguist #1
420
- Male
Linguist #2
475
- Male
Biologist
518
Scientist #1
633
- Male
Scientist #2
661
Doctor #1
700
Doctor #2
754
Security
899
Weapons duties (Male)
MVC Alien guide/translator
One of the crew members hasn't been mentioned yet.
*************
[And then another forum member responded:]
The team member not mentioned in the 1st journal entry seems to be the
female linguist mentioned in Anon's 2nd posting, since the only linguist
mentioned in the journal entry appears to be male.
"There were two females, one being a doctor and the other being a
linguist."
"420 will try to use his language skills."
*************
There’s more interesting analysis there too, of a number of other
aspects of Anon’s postings.
Best, Bill
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12-28-05 - Disinformation notes:
Thomas,
I cannot say what parts of the Serpo scenario
are real but I do know some parts that are false. The Eben data
was first disseminated by Paul Bennewitz. Rick Doty stated that
a disinfo campaign was started against
Bennewitz convincing him of the location of the Dulce base, but for
those of us who investigated the tales of Dulce, we find that Rick is
still a consummate liar and says he does it to protect national
security.
Rick is one of the disinfo artists involved in
this Serpo story, but now has distanced himself from it. Others
involved are friends of his in the DIA. They know that some
disclosure starts next year and are trying
to put out a huge distraction.
There was an exchange program, but it is not
exactly as presented.
I will not go into all the details at this point
as I may write up an analysis of the
errors in the data, but the data given on the planet Serpo
and the stars it orbits is erroneous as well as a description of Ebens,
J-Rods, and Grays.
Bill
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1-29-06
Aloha all, here's a reply to a
recent posting by Bill Ryan who is circulating information allegedly
about a human military team to Planet Serpo.
Aloha,
Michael Salla
***
Thank you Bill for forwarding this and the second part of the log
entries after the team's alleged landing on Project Serpo. I have to
admit to being disappointed with what I read since I thought this was
possibly a genuine disclosure initiative where there may have been a
little disinformation thrown in to maintain plausible deniability. I
now see the Serpo information more in lines of a fictionalized version
of events that has far less accurate information in it than I
previously thought. The main reason for my changed position is the
communication modalities discussed in the log entries between the EBEs
and the human team. It is reported that they communicate via
translators, and that the EBEs communicate among themselves by speech.
Furthermore, we are also told that the EBEs are capable of above light
speed travel which accounts for the rapid flight time between Earth
and Serpo. The problem is that in all the whistleblower and
experiencer testimonies I have read, the EBEs are generally described
in terms of communicating through telepathy, and that the
thought-technology interface plays a critical role in above light
speed travel.
The most reliable source for these conclusions is the testimony of
Philip Corso who discussed his recollections of the mind-technology
interface used by the EBEs. He argues that this is the principle
behind the propulsion and navigation systems used by the EBEs, and
that this is also a part of their communication system. Similarly
whistleblowers such as Clifford Stone and Charles Hall report about
the telepathic communication modalities used by EBEs, where
communication by verbal speech is not common among the EBEs.
When we examine the Betty and Barney Hill case, generally accepted as
the first reliable case of human abduction by EBEs, we again have the
Hill's reports of telepathic communication by EBEs. Furthermore, Betty
Hill identified the star system of Zeta Reticulum as the home of the
EBEs which gives us an idea of the communication modalities of the
EBEs from Zeta Reticulum or any planet in it such as the alleged Serpo.
I have difficulty recalling the testimony of any 'whistleblower' or
'experiencer' who communicates that EBEs only communicate verbally as
described in the Serpo logs. If one reads Sci Fi books, one see that
most authors describe EBEs as communicating verbally which is clearly
an anthropomorphic generalization. When it comes to the real thing,
verbal communication among EBEs is very rare from the reports of
whistleblowers/experiencers. In fact, I would argue that any EBE
capable of greater than light speed travel must have the necessary
telepathic abilities to control the advanced technologies necessary
for this modality of transportation. This is something that Corso
discussed as the stumbling block of reverse engineering EBE craft
since the pilot was a necessary part of the propulsion/navigation
systems.
This takes me to the material that you've circulated below. In
numerous passages we are told that the EBE's communicate in an EBEN
langague, and that a translator is needed for human-EBEN
communication. The striking clue for me as to the veracity of the
Serpo material is the alleged puzzlement of the EBE translatoer,
EBE-2, who often has difficulty understanding the intent of the human
team member communicating. For example, we have passages such as:
"I ask her abet the creature we saw, I ask if that was some
other type of Eben. Ebe2 seems confused. She asked me what
creature. I used the word creature. Maybe that was an insult or
maybe she didn't know the word. I pointed to the thing at the
other end of the building. She then saw what I meant. Ebe2
said, no Eben, just visitor. Like you, pointing to me."
If we take as an axiom that any greater than light speed faring EBE
civilization has developed telepathic abilities, necessary for
controlling the navigation/propulsion systems, what occurred above
would make little sense. Telepathic abilities from all accounts I've
researched are a reliable means of communicating ideas and concepts so
it would be extremely unlikely that a genuinely telepathic being would
be confused so often as reported in the logs. Again, the reports from
numerous whistleblowers and experiencers are that the EBEs read the
minds of their human subjects and either reply back telepathically or
in a verbal manner.
Then we have passages referring to EBEs communicating verbally in
an EBE language:
"Many Ebens are inside. They look at us with some
glares. But we just walk in and around. One Eben comes up
to us and speaks but in Eben. He seems to be telling us
something. He points to the ceiling and then to our heads.
Maybe he is telling us to cover our heads. We must find Ebe2."
Again, most reports by whistleblowers/experiencers are that EBEs
communicate telepathically and silence is the common situation when
around them. Travis Walton for example tried to communicate verbally
with the human looking EBEs that allegedly were a part of his
'abduction' experience, yet they did not reply verbally and
communicated among themselves in silence.
After noting the repeated references to the communication
modalities used by the EBEs, and no mention of telepathic
communication, I would have to conclude that the Serpo information is
a fictionalized account of a human EBE team traveling to Serpo.
Perhaps the author/sources are trying to fill in the details by
fictionalizing what might have happened in a genuine human team
traveling to Serpo. In my view the communication modalities described
in the Serpo logs are a clue that this is largely fictionalized
account by an author of some events that may have occurred. While
there may be some truth to an actual human team traveling to planet
Serpo in the system of Zeta Reticulum, the alleged log entries that
have been circulated are fictionalized accounts of what happened. This
gives me much less confidence in the veracity of the Serpo material
that is being released, and the integrity of the sources releasing
this information.
Aloha, Michael Salla
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Project
Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program
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The gradual release of confidential
documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of
twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta
Reticuli, between the years 1965-78
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“We
already have the means to travel among the stars, but
these technologies are locked up in black projects and it
would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit
humanity….. anything you can imagine we already know how
to do.”
Ben
Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture
shortly before he died
_______
"I printed all the information... and provided [the
retired USAF Colonel] a copy... I watched his eyes and
facial expressions. After he was finished, he stated,
"Oh my God, who on this Earth would release such
classified material?" I then asked him if all this
information was real. His simple answer was, 'Yes, all
real'."
Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, currently assigned to the
Pentagon – name supplied
EDITOR's NOTE: A brand
NEW posting has just arrived from ANONYMOUS which I'll try and get up
tonight before "Threshold." Due to the space
limitations of WebTV, all of these seven (7) postings will be deleted
after this stream and in order to view back postings, you'll have to
go to Bill Ryan's new: http://www.serpo.org/
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Part 1a: THE UNUSUAL GEOLOGIC FEATURES OF PLANET SERPO DESCRIBED IN
VIVID DETAIL AS WELL AS THE NEAR LIFE-OR-DEATH ENCOUNTERS OUR TEAM
MEMBERS HAD WITH 2 VICIOUS SERPO ANIMALS IN WHICH ONE WAS KILLED AND
PRONOUNCED "DOA!"
Part 1b: ANONYMOUS DETAILS THE SOCIETAL STRUCTURE OF THE EBENS AND
COVERS EVERYTHING FROM FOOD, GAMES TO SEX!
Part 1c: STARTLING NEW REVELATIONS ON THE VICIOUS, RUTHLESS ALIEN RACE
THAT THE EBENS ENGAGED IN A 100-YEAR INTERPLANETARY WAR WITH!
DETAILS ON HOW THE U.S. TEAM MEMBERS SURVIVED ON PLANET SERPO AND A
GLIMPSE INTO THE SOCIAL STRUCTURE OF THE EBEN SOCIETY AND CULTURE!
Part 1d: BOMBSHELL NEW INFORMATION REGARDING THE 'WEIRD PHYSICS' OF
THE SERPO HOMEWORLD AND THE NON-EXISTENCE OF 'TIME' AS WE KNOW IT, AS
WELL AS DETAILS ON THE EVERYDAY LIFE OF THE EBENS, THEIR ANCIENT
HISTORY, THEIR FIRST TRIP TO EARTH 2,000 YEARS AGO AND THE HORRIFIC
GALACTIC WAR WHICH ALMOST DROVE THEM TO EXTINCTION!
Part 1e: SPECIFIC ASTRONOMICAL DATA ON THE ETE's [Ebens] HOMEWORLD OF
SERPO PLUS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON OTHER STAR SYSTEMS THAT ETE's
HAVE ORIGINATED FROM IN EARTH's PAST!
Part 1f: POSTING BY "ANONYMOUS I"
ON THE ALIEN HOMEWORLD THAT 10 MEN, 2 WOMEN FROM THE U.S. WERE SENT
TO!
Part 1g: ORIGINAL POSTING BY "ANONYMOUS"
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Part 1a:
[ ] = Moderator's comments/insertions
EBE = Extraterrestrial Biological Entity: NO!
ETE: Extraterrestrial Entity: YES!
[ Official terminology used by the U. S.
Government ]
THE WEIRD AND UNUSUAL GEOLOGIC FEATURES OF PLANET SERPO ARE DESCRIBED
IN VIVID DETAIL AS WELL AS A HARROWING ENCOUNTER WITH A VICIOUS SERPO
ANIMAL IN QUADRANT 3 FOLLOWED BY A LIFE-OR-DEATH ENCOUNTER WITH A HUGE
SNAKE-LIKE CREATURE IN QUADRANT 4 THAT WILL GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES FOR
DAYS
TO COME!
VICTOR:
Here are some geological facts regarding SERPO our Team Members
compiled:
The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.
The surface gravity was 9.60m/s>2.
The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.
Our Team contained two (2) geologists (they were also cross-trained as
biologists). The first thing our geologists did was map the entire
planet. The first step was to divide the planet in half, thus creating
an Equator. Then they established a Northern Hemisphere and Southern
Hemisphere. Within each hemisphere, they created four (4) quadrants.
Finally, they established the "North and
South" Poles. This was the easiest method to study the planet.
Most of the Eben communities were placed along the Equator. However,
there were some communities established north of the equator in each
of the four quadrants in the Northern Hemispheres. There were no
communities located in either poles. The southern pole was desert.
It was barren land with virtually no precipitation where absolutely
nothing grew in this area.
There were volcanic rock formations and part of the extreme south
contained a rock desert. Temperatures in the south pole were measured
at between 90° and 135°F. Going further north from the south
pole in Quadrant 1, the Team found extrusive rocks. This indicated
some volcanic activity in the area. Our team found numerous volcanoes
in this area.
The Team found several fissure eruptions in this region, with standing
water. The water was tested and contained high levels of sulfur, zinc,
copper and other unknown chemicals. Moving from east to Quadrant 2,
the Team found basically the same volcanic fields of rocks.
However, in one particular location near the
north end of Quadrant 2, the Team found an Alkali Flat. On Earth,
these were formed by streams flowing into a desert or arid location.
Our team found hard mud covered by alkaline salts. Some vegetation was
growing in this area.
Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid
region that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The
gullies or valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.
The team found the first SERPO animal in this region. It looked like
an armadillo. This creature was extremely hostile and tried to attack
the Team several times. The Eben guide used some type of sound device
(sonic-directed sound beam) to scare away the creature.
Moving to the Equatorial region, our team found desert-style
landscapes which contained patches of vegetation. The team found
numerous pockets of water fed to the ground by Artesian Wells. This
water was the freshest, containing only the unknown chemicals. It
tasted good and the Ebens drank and used it. Our team still boiled it
because during culture tests, unknown types of bacteria were detected.
Moving to the Northern Hemisphere, the Team found a major change in
climate and landscape. One Team Member, who had coined it Quadrant 1,
in the northern hemisphere, named it "Little Montana." The
Team found trees, similar to the Evergreen style of Earth trees. These
trees were milked by the Ebens. A white fluid was extracted and drank.
Numerous other types of vegetation was found in this region. Standing
water, possibly fed by either Artesian Wells or fissure eruptions was
found. In one area, marsh lands were seen. Large plants were observed
growing in the marshy area. The Ebens used these plants for food. The
bulb of the plant was very large. The bulb tasted something like a
melon.
Our Team eventually moved to an area in Quadrant 1 in the northern
hemisphere. This area contained moderate temperatures [50° - 80°]
and ample amounts of shade. The Eben's built a little community for
the team. Most of the remaining exploration of the planet was done
from this point. The Team only explored the southern hemisphere once,
obtaining geological information.
Because of the intense heat, the Team decided not to venture back. The
Team continued to explore the northern hemisphere, where, as the Team
traveled towards the north pole, the temperature cooled considerably.
The Team found mountains, raising to an elevation of 15,000 feet and
valleys that sank below the basic mark the team established for
"sea level." Lush green fields were found containing a
form of grass, but contained bulbs. The team coined these fields,
"Clover Fields," even though the bulbs were not clover.
The radiation levels were lower in the northern hemisphere than at the
Equator and southern hemisphere. The north pole contained cold weather
and the team saw the first sign of snow. Blankets of snow littered the
landscape around the north pole. The snow measured about 20 feet, at
its deepest.
The temperature was a constant 33°. Our Team never found the
temperature to vary in this region. The Ebens could not stand to be in
this region for long. They suffered extreme hypothermia. The Team's
guide wore a suit, similar to a space suit with built-in heaters.
Our Team found evidence of past earthquakes. Fault lines were found
along the northern tip of the southern hemisphere. Exfoliation was
observed along with extrusive rocks, which indicated magma flows in
the past.
Our Team BROUGHT BACK HUNDREDS OF SAMPLES of SERPO soil, vegetation,
water and other items for testing on Earth. During our Team's
exploration, they discovered numerous types of animals. The strangest
was the "Beast" which looked like a large Ox. The animal was
timid and never seen to be hostile. Another animal looked like a
Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the neck.
This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the Ebens.
During the exploration of Quadrant 4 of the southern hemisphere, the
team found a very long and large creature that appeared to be a snake.
This creature was "deadly," as explained by the Ebens. The
head of the creature was large and contained almost human-like eyes.
This was the only time our Team used their weapons and killed the
creature.
The Ebens didn't appear to be upset that the Team killed the creature,
but was upset they used a weapon. The team brought four .45 caliber
Colt (standard military issued) handguns and four M2 carbine rifles.
After killing the creature, the team disected it. The internal organs
were strange and nothing similar to a Earth-style snake. The creature
measured 15 feet long and 1.5 feet in diameter. The team was curious
about the eyes.
Examination of the eyes revealed cones, similar to human eyes. The eye
contained an iris and the back contained a large nerve, similar to the
optic nerve feeding into the creature's brain. The brain was large,
much larger than any Earth-based snake. The Team wanted to eat the
meat from the creature, but the Eben guides politely told them
"No."
The bodies of water on SERPO did NOT contain
fish, as we know. Some bodies, near the equator, did contain
strange-looking creatures, similar to eels (small and about 8 –
10" long) and was probably a cousin of the land-based
"Snake."
There was something like a jungle, near the marshlands, but not the
jungles that we're familiar with. SERPO didn't have seasons as we know
them (extreme heat then freezing cold). However, the temperature
varied.
Regarding weapons taken: There was a lengthy discussion about weapons.
At the end, the Ebens didn't really care. So our Team Members decided
to take some just in case. Not for a fight, God knows, as our Team was
vastly outnumbered, but for the safety aspects of it.
Remember, the 12 were all military members,
so weapons made them FEEL safe. A side note: They only took 50 rounds
of ammunication per handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition per rifle.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1b:
THE SOCIETAL STRUCTURE OF THE EBENS AND HOW OUR TEAM MEMBERS
INTERACTED WITH THEM!
COMMUNICATING WITH THE EBENS
This was a gigantic problem, to say the least. It took our linguist
specialists several years to adequately establish a form of
communication with the Ebens. A group of Ebens learned to understand
English and a few other Earth languages.
This group contained the
"Travelers," as our team called them. Our Team Members
connected themselves with the Travelers. Although the Team couldn't
always understand their responses, the Eben travelers understood our
Team, most of the time. During this time period, the only exchange of
information was simple.
The Ebens, not being able to completely explain something to our team,
used a form of sign language by pointing to the object or item they
wished to explain and made hand movements. Our team, two (2) members,
eventually grasped that method of communication. However, our Team
didn't receive much information from the Ebens during this time
period.
The Travelers (the very few who understood English numbered about 30)
did not fully understand all words in our language. Later, the Ebens
called our language too complicated and difficult to understand. We
eventually determined the Eben Tonal Language to be VERY complicated
and extremely hard to translate. We were able to record
their language and then play it back, listening to each Tonal dialect
and each tonal bar.
Eventually we crudely translated some of the language. We started with
simple items, for example, the flying object that they used to travel
around their planet on. Then things like houses, roads, food,
clothing, their suns, their planet, etc. Although we did establish
some form of communication, it was crude and not always helpful for
our Team when something complicated happened.
For example, when our first Team Member died in an accident, it was
hard to communicate with the Ebens. The member died instantly,
therefore, no medical care was provided. Our two (2) doctors examined
the Member's body and determined the injuries were consistent with an
accidental fall. Initially, the Ebens never interfered with our care
or offered to provide any of their medical care.
However, once the Ebens – a very benevolent and caring people –
saw our team members crying, the Ebens stepped in and offered to
attempt some sort of medical care. Although our doctors felt the Team
Member was medically dead, they allowed the Ebens to try their own
medical care. Most of this was either through sign language or
speaking to the Travelers who could understand some English.
The Ebens transported the Team Member's body to a remote area of the
largest community. They took the body into a large building,
apparently their hospital or medical center. The Ebens used a large
examination table to view the body. The Ebens ran a large bluish-green
light beam over the body. The Ebens watched a display, that appeared
on a large screen that looked like a television screen. The readouts
were in the Eben written language and thus our team could not
understand it.
However, there was a graphic display, similar
to a heat beat graph. The solid line was not wavering. Our doctors
understood that meant the same thing that their equipment measured:
the heart was not beating. The Ebens administered some liquid through
a needle. This was done several times. Eventually, the heart started
beating.
But our doctors knew the internal organs of the body were damaged, but
couldn't fully explain that to the Ebens. The Ebens finally made a
sign, placing both their hands to the chest and bowing their heads.
Our team members knew that meant the body was dead and nothing could
be done.
The Ebens showed affection to our Team. During the last work period,
the Ebens had a ceremony for the dead Team Member, the same ceremony
used when an Eben died. Our team held their own service, attended by
the Ebens. The Ebens were extremely curious about our religious
service. One Team Member, who was acting as a minister, performed a
death service. Our Team was eternally greatful for the Eben's caring
attitude for our dead friend.
EBEN SOCIETY
The Ebens live in a very simple society. The individual Eben family
contained a male, female and at least one (1) child. Our team did find
some families with as many as four (4) children. We later learned
those families were caring for children of Ebens who were either on
Traveling Missions (EXPLORING THE UNIVERSE) or dead Ebens.
Our Team witnessed an aircraft accident that killed four (4) Ebens.
The Ebens performed a form of ritual at the crash site. The Ebens
transported the bodies to a medical facility
and examined the bodies. Our Team Members were always allowed to
accompany the Ebens, except during rest period, when the Ebens closed
their doors for privacy.
Our Team Members saw the sorrow in the eyes of the Ebens during the
death of their own. Later, after the last work period of the day, the
Eben's had a "funeral," at least that is what our Team
concluded it was. The Eben bodies were wrapped in a white cloth.
Several types of liquids were poured over the bodies. Large numbers of
Ebens would stand in a circle, chanting.
The sounds became almost nauseating to our Team Members. The ceremony
lasted for a long time. Finally, the bodies were placed in metal
containers and buried in a remote location away from the communities.
After the burial, the Ebens had a feast. Large tables of food were
brought out and everyone ate, danced and played games. This occurred
at every Eben death witnessed by our team.
The individual Eben family lived a simple life. Their homes were
constructed of clay, some type of material similar to wood, and some
metal. The houses all looked the same. They appeared to be something
from the Southwest, looking like adobe. The interior of the house
consisted of four (4) rooms. One sleeping room where all Ebens slept
in the same room on mats, a food preparation room (kitchen), a family
room (the largest in the house) and a small waste room.
THIS brought up an interesting point for our Team. The Ebens did NOT
have a physiological need to release body wastes as we did. The Eben's
had small collection locations in the residence for their body wastes.
But the Eben's body was extremely efficient in processing all food
taken in. Their body wastes consisted of a small amount of fecal
matter, similar to a small cat dropping.
Our Team Members never saw any urine excretion from an Eben. On the
other hand, our Team Member's wastes consisted of bulk quantity of
both fecal matter and urine. The Ebens had to dig large waste
reception sites for our 12 Team Member's waste. The Ebens accommodated
our team.
FOOD & WATER
Food, as I mentioned previously, was a problem for our Team Members.
Our Team consummed mostly military-style C-Rations, but eventually had
to switch to Eben food. The Ebens had a variety of food items. They
grew vegetables. Our Team found items similar to potatoes, but they
tasted different. They had some type of lettuce, turnips, and
tomatoes. They were the only items similar to ours. The Eben's had
other vegetables grown.
These were strange looking round items with long vines. The Ebens
cooked the vines and ate the large portion of the plant raw. The Ebens
had some type of white liquid, which we first thought was a form of
milk. But after tasting it, our Team realized it was different, both
in taste and content. The liquid came from a small tree located in the
northern portion of the planet. The Eben's literelly milked the tree
for the liquid. It appeared to be some sort of pleasure to drink the
stuff.
Our Team Members never got a real "taste" for the liquid.
The Ebens cooked food. They make pots of stew, which was extremely
tasteless to our team. We used a lot of salt and pepper. They also
baked a form of bread. It was non-yeast bread and tasted fairly good,
but caused extreme constipation to our Team Members. We had to drink
large quantities of water in order to digest the bread.
The one common food that Ebens and our Team Members liked was the
fruit. The Ebens ate a great quantity of fruit. The fruit, although
different from anything we saw, was sweet. Some of the fruit tasted
something like melons, while others tasted like apples.
Another problem was water. The water on SERPO contained a number of
unknown chemicals found by our team. Our Team eventually had to boil
the water before drinking it. Seeing this, the Ebens built a large
plant that processed water for our Team.
In our Team's final report, written by the
commander (Colonel), the report states that during the exchange period
(he was careful NOT to use exact time periods), the Team was able to
communicate with the Ebens about 50% of the time. There were some
things we were NEVER able to communicate.
HUMOROUS MOMENTS
Our Team brought along softball equipment for sporting activity. The
Ebens would watch the game and laugh out loud. (The Eben laugh sounded
like a high pitched yell.) Eventually, the Ebens started playing
the game, but never got used to catching the ball BEFORE it hit the
ground.
Our Team also played touch football. Again, the Ebens watched the game
intensely and then played it themselves. But again, like softball, the
Ebens never figured out they had to catch the football before it hit
the ground!
EBEN vs SEX
Although our Team Members honored the privacy of the Ebens, our Team
was allowed to witness births. Our team, snooping aroud, was able to
capture the sexual activity of the Ebens. The males and females had
similar sexual organs and performed intercourse. The frequency of
sexual activity was not recorded as being as often as our society
performed. It was believed that they performed the act for pleasure
and reproduction.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1c:
The group called MJ-12 -- which wasn't really the group that
controlled the information -- but for the sake of clarity, we'll just
call them "MJ-12." The actual name of the group who
controlled, managed and oversaw the SERPO project was called XXXXX
XXXXX.
Current DIA officials have very little knowledge of this subject
matter. However, we will move ahead with our plans. Our main supporter
is XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX, a former director of XXX. He is in our
corner and will support our gradual release [Public Acclimation
Program] plan.
1) I find some of the questions to be very disturbing. I expected
thoughfulness in the responses, rather than criticism. The information
I am providing is coming directly from OFFICIAL documents. But I guess
it's difficult for our Earth-based [closed minded] scientists to
understand something foreign to them.
The criticism being displayed by your list of scientists doesn't
bother me. I'm just stating what the official documents say. As
for the
scientific calculations, our Earth-based scientists had the SAME
questions. Our home-based scientists questioned the collection methods
of the team. But in the end, our home-based scientists figured out
that our applied scientific principals did NOT always work on Planet
SERPO. Once our scientists minds were OPEN, the calculations were made
to prove the team's data.
2) One of the principal home-based scientists (astronomer) contracted
to assist us was Dr. Carl Edward Sagan. Initially, he was the BIGGEST
SKEPTIC of the group. But as information was slowly analyzed,
Dr. Sagan came back to the middle. I can't say he fully accepted every
single piece of data, but HE DID AGREE ON THE FINAL REPORT.
The laws of physics, as we know them, were different on SERPO. NO
ONE walked through walls or flew by themselves. However, the time
problem and some other scientific calculations appeared to be
different using our laws of physics.
Dr. Carl Sagan had a VERY hard time understanding this until he
applied some things the Team gave him. It's very hard for an
Earth-based person to understand
exactly what the Team had to deal with. [INability to
"think outside of the box."]
3) Lively discussions brings out some very interesting questions. Some
of which I cannot find answers to. Although our team spent over a
decade (our time) on SERPO AND NEARBY PLANETS, they did not have a
laptop computer to enter all data. They had two recorders, who were
responsible for writing down the data. Our team acknowledged that a
lot of data was lost or not documented.
4) Regarding Time: The Team Members brought
several time pieces, e.g., wrist watches, non-battery style, as it
stated in the debriefing data. The time pieces worked, but they had NO
reference to time since the Eben days were longer, the dusk and dawn
periods were longer and they had NO calendars to reference.
They did use the time pieces to calculate movement, for example,
timing the movement of the Eben two suns. They also calculated the
time between work and rest periods. But, after awhile, the team
discarded their time pieces and used the Eben's measurement of time
periods. The team became confused with the calendars they brought –
a 10-year calendar.
After 24 months, the team lost track of time, as to the calendar since
they could not properly calculate days compared to Earth days. They
set up one (1) large clock to the earth time when they left. However,
this was a battery-controlled clock and when the battery died,
the clock stopped and they forgot to change the battery in time.
Consequently, they lost the earth time. The team brought a large
quantity of batteries, but they ran out after about five (5) years.
The Ebens had no comparable item like batteries.
5) They also took electric razors, coffee pots, electric heaters, a
DIM (no explanation as to what this was), an electric IBM typewriter,
a scientific calculator, slide rules (both conventional and
scientific), Base Data Collection Recorder (BDCR), three (3) different
sized
telescopes, tangents, both conventional and electrical.
The list goes on and on. But they took about
everything they were allowed to take, as to weight. The Ebens did
weigh the equipment taken by our team. The weight limit was 4½
(four-and-half) tons or 9,000 lbs. As for food, the team took
C-Rations, military style. They carefully planned for 10 (ten) years.
6) Another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two
females taken?
If one considers the monumental problem associated with picking a team
of 12 (twelve) people, where each person must be TOTALLY ERASED from
the military system – NO family ties, NO spouses and NO children –
one can see the difficulty that the selection group had. The selection
group picked the best team members from a limited pool of military
people.
The original selection group picked 158 (one-hundred &
fifty-eight) people. The final 12 (twelve) were selected from that
number. If you consider the psychological, medical and other tests
that had to be administered, the final 12 were the best qualified from
the original number. Why they chose two (2) females was never written.
Apparently, those two females were the best qualified in their
individual specialty: a doctor and a linguist.
7) How did the Ebens advance so quickly? Nothing was written about
this. But Earth-based scientists surmised that since the Eben culture
consisted of just one (1) species, their advancement excelled and
accelerated more rapidly than a civilization that consisted of
different species, different languages, etc.
[as we have here on Earth where an inordinate amount of time is spent
fighting amongst ourselves rather than trying to advance our species]
8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization?
Again, the team never found the answer except that many hundreds of
thousands of Ebens died in The Great War. Earth-based social behavior
specialists surmised that the Eben civilization was structured to
accommodate their own needs. Our team did find limited supplies of
commodities on their planet. Large buildings were used to harvest food
products.
The soil wasn't rich in a lot of minerals. Ebens used a form of
organic agriculture to harvest food items. Maybe the Ebens were scared
that if they over populated the planet, they couldn't provide for
their citizens. This is only MY idea, and NOT anything written
in the
official records.
9) As to the Eben culture: They had a form of musical entertainment.
The music sounded like tonal rhythms. They also listened to a type of
chanting. The Ebens were dancers. They celebrated certain work periods
with a ritual dance. The Ebens would form a circle and dance around,
listening to the chanting type of music. The music was played on bells
and drums, or something similar to them.
There were NO televisions, radio stations or anything like that. The
Ebens played a game, something like soccer, but with a larger ball.
The object was to kick the ball down a field into a goal. The game had
very strange rules and played for long periods of time. They also had
another game, mostly played by the children, that consisted of making
formations with groups of Ebens. They seemed to really enjoy the game,
but our team found little understanding of the game.
Athough the Eben civilization had no televisions, radios, etc., each
Eben had a small device belted to their waists. This device gave
orders to perform a particular task, news of pending events, etc. The
device displayed a screen, similar to a television screen but in a 3-D
style format. Our team brought back one (1) of these devices. (I think
today, we could compare it to a palm pilot.) [Anonymous
writing.]
10) The Eben's energy device was analyzed over and over again by our
team. Since our team did not have access to scientific microscopes or
other measuring equipment, we could not understand the function of the
energy device.
But, regardless of the electrical demand, the Eben energy device
provided the proper current and wattage. Out team surmised the device
had some sort of regulator that sensed the required current/wattage
and then supplied that specific amount. (Note: Our Team Members
brought back two {2} energy devices for analysis.)
11) SERPO moved around one (1) sun only. The other sun was within the
two (2) orbits. As I said before, there are HUNDREDS of pages of
calculations in the debriefing explaining all of this.
12) Why some Team Members remained!
The debriefing reported that the Team Members who remained, did so
voluntarily. They fell in love with the culture of the Ebens and the
planet. They were NOT ordered to return. Communication with the
remaining crew members lasted until about 1988.
No other communication was received from those Team Members. The two
–who died on the Planet SERPO – were placed in coffins and buried.
Their bodies were returned to Earth.
13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their
stay on SERPO. Most of the Team Members died later of
radiation-related illnesses.
14) The Ebens fought a battle with an enemy for a period of time. Our
Team Members estimated the war lasted about 100 [Earth] years, but,
again, that is OUR time. The war was fought using particle beam
weapons, developed by both civilizations. The Ebens eventually were
able to destroy the enemy planet, killing the remaining enemy forces.
The Ebens did warn us that several other alien races within OUR galaxy
were HOSTILE. The Ebens stay away from those races. The debriefing
document never stated the name of the enemy, probably because
they no longer existed.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1d:
THE "LAWS" OF PHYSICS,... OUT THE WINDOW!
Our scientists had the SAME questions, as posed by your audience.
Our scientists questioned our team members and the information they
gathered. Our scientists could NOT understand how the orbit of
SERPO could revolve around the two (2) suns at the distance measured.
In the end, our scientists found that some things relating to that
particular system was DIFFERENT IN PHYSICS compared to our system.
There were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and
other calculations based on the lack of a stable time base. For
some reason -- and I don't think this was ever determined -- our TIME
instruments did NOT WORK on SERPO!
Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our
team members had making calculations without time. They had to
come up with an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.
CHALLENGE: Try solving a problem in physics
without being able to measure time on Earth! [This is
"Anonymous" still speaking.]
So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they
had and the hardships they developed attempting scientific
calculations. It is difficult for any Earth-based scientist to
UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT [laws of] PHYSICS IN OTHER SOLAR SYSTEMS or
on other planets.
One of the questions sent me involved Kepler's Law of Planetary
Motion. Our team had that information. We had some of the
best
military scientists on the team. But if you consider Kepler's
Law, it requires time and our team could ONLY measure time in the
conventional way. It was determined that Kepler's Laws did NOT apply
[at least] to that solar system.
FACTOID: Scientists now know that Kepler's planetary laws also
describe the motion of moons, stars and man-made satellites.]
CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned
was NOT to apply Earth's LAWS OF PHYSICS IN A UNIVERSAL WAY.
[Anonymous speaking again.]
HISTORY OF SERPO AND THE SOCIAL STRUCTURE OF THE EBEN CIVILIZATION
SERPO was estimated to be about three (3) billion years old. The
two (2) suns were about five (5) billion years old, but only by
estimation.
The Eben civilization was estimated to be about 10,000 years old. They
evolved from another planet, NOT on SERPO. The original home
planet of the Ebens was threatened with extreme volcanic activity.
The Ebens had to relocate to SERPO in order to protect their
civilization. This occurred some 5,000 years ago.
The Ebens had a great interplanetary battle with another race about
3,000 years ago. The Ebens lost many thousands in their battle.
The Ebens completely eliminated all of their enemies. The Ebens have
NEVER fought another war since. The Ebens have been space travelers
for the past 2,000 years. The Ebens FIRST VISITED Earth about 2,000
YEARS AGO.
[ MODERATOR's NOTE: Did the Ebens plant or "seed" the
personage of Jesus Christ as alleged in the famous "Project
Aquarius" briefing document?! (I possess a copy.) See the ENTIRE
briefing document reproduced word-for-word at the end of Part 1a and
see if you think "the dots connect!" ]
Why does the Eben population number only about 650,000? The
Ebens have a very stable, structured civilization. Each male has
a mate. They are allowed to reproduce (in somewhat the same
sexual way we do), but are limited to only a specific number of
children. Our team never saw a family with more than two (2)
children.
The Eben civilization was so structured that they planned the
birth of each and every child, spacing them apart to allow the proper
social grouping of the civilization. Eben children matured at a
super rate, compared to Earth children. Our team watched live
births, attended to by an Eben doctor, and then watched the
development of the child over a period of time, team member's time. They
matured at an alarming rate.
The Ebens had scientists, doctors and technicians. There was one
(1) educational facility on the planet. If one was chosen, you
attended the facility and learned the job one was best qualified and
suited for. Although it was extremely difficult to judge or
measure, the team estimated each Eben's IQ to be 165.
The Ebens had no single ruler. There
was a "Council of Governors," which the team named.
This group controlled every single action on the planet. The
members of the council seemed to have been around for a long time.
Since Ebens didn't age -- or at least our team couldn't detect
aging -- it was difficult to judge the age of each member.
There were about 100 different villages or living locations for the
Ebens. The Ebens only used a small portion of their planet.
They
did mine minerals in remote areas of the planet and had a large
industrial plant in the southern portion of the planet near a body of
water. Our team determined this plant had some sort of
hydroelectrical operation.
PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACE TRAVEL
The Ebens developed a different type of electrical and propulsion
system. It was unknown to our team and I don't think we ever
really
understood it. They were able to tap into a vacuum and bring
back an ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY from that vacuum.
Our team's living quarters, which consisted of several small
buildings, contained electricity powered by a small box. This
small box supplied all the power our team needed. Ironically,
the electrical equipment our team brought on the trip worked using
their power source only!
EBENs ON LIFE, DEATH AND RELIGION / A
CREATOR
Ebens did die. Our team members saw deaths, some from accidents
and some from natural causes. The Ebens buried the bodies,
similar to our method. Our team saw two (2) air accidents
involving their intra-planet flying vehicle [which levitated off the
ground].
The Ebens worshipped a Supreme Being. It appeared to be some
sort of deity relating to the Universe [Universal Consciousness, Mind
or Life Force]. They conducted daily services, normally at the
end of the first work period. They had a building or church they
entered to worship.
Our team left Earth in a large Eben spacecraft and flew to SERPO in
approximately nine (9) months by OUR team's measurement of time
[suggesting that it might be longer OR shorter]. Upon our team's
return, they traveled on a newer Eben craft. The time, estimated
by our team for the return, was seven (7) months.
– ANONYMOUS
MODERATOR's ADDENDUM TO PARAGRAPH #18 ABOVE
"Project Aquarius" briefing document
"ABOVE TOP SECRET / MAJIC EYES ONLY"
(TS/ORCON) – Most governmental documents pertaining to UFO
sightings, incidents and governmental policies, including
"Project Blue Book," have been released to the public under
FOIA or under various other release programs.
MJ-12 felt the remaining documents and information (not relating to
"Project Aquarius" relating to technological facts regarding
alien
medical matters, the fact that an alien was captured alive and
survived three (3) years under secrecy, cannot be released to the
public for fear the information would be obtained by SHIS. There
was other information obtained from EBE that was deemed sensitive and
NOT releasable to the public.
Notably, "Project Aquarius," Volume IX, which pertains to
tracing the alien's first visitation of Earth back some 5,000 years.
EBE reported that 2,000 years ago, his ancestors PLANTED A HUMAN
CREATURE ON EARTH to assist the inhabitants of Earth in developing a
civilization. This information was only vague and the exact
identity or background information
on this homo-sapien was not obtained.
Undoubtedly, if this information was released to the public, it would
CAUSE A WORLDWIDE PANIC. MJ-3 has developed a plan that will
allow release of Project Aquarius, Volumes I - III.
The release program calls for a GRADUAL RELEASE OF INFORMATION over a
period of time in order to CONDITION THE PUBLIC FOR FUTURE
DISCLOSURES. Attachment 5 of this briefing contains certain guidelines
for future public releases.
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Part 1e:
ABSTRACT ON THE EBEN's HOME PLANET and OTHER ALIEN HOMEWORLDS THAT
HAVE VISITED EARTH
Statistics on the Eben planet was collected by our team. Here is the
pertinent data for your UFO thread list:
Diameter:
7,218 miles
Mass:
5.06X10>24
Distance from Sun #1: 96.5 million miles
Sun #2:
91.4 million miles
Moons:
2
Surface gravity:
9.60m/s>2
Rotation Periods:
43 hours
Orbit:
865 days
Tilt:
43 degrees
Temperature:
Min: 43° / Max: 126°
Distance from Earth: 38.43 light years
Planet named by Team: SERPO
Nearest planet to SERPO: Named: OTTO
Distance: 88 million miles colonized by Ebens with research
base, but NO natural inhabitants on planet.
Number of planets in Eben Solar System: Six (6)
Nearest inhabited planet to SERPO:
Named: SILUS
Distance: 434 million miles
SILUS is made up of creatures of various types, but NO intelligent
life forms [with sentience]. Ebens use the planet to mine minerals.
We DID have visitors from nine (9) other star systems.
– The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens,
were NOT. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A.
The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo.
The visitors were classified by a code.
The code, which was classified in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial
Entities" (ETE). ETE-2
were the Ebens, the Grays were ETE-3, and so on.
The "Red Book" lists nine (9) different visitors. We
determined recently that some of the visitors were the same type of
race but a
"mechanical lifeform." They were hybrid beings that
were created in a laboratory rather than by natural birth.
They creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent
and could make decisions. They might be the "hostile"
visitors that some people report [during reported abduction
scenarios].
To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985
from the Ebens.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1f:
RIVETING NEW DETAILS ON THE ALIEN HOMEWORLD THAT 12 AMERICANS WERE
SENT TO AS PROVIDED BY "ANONYMOUS I"
Paul [McGovern] is NOT correct. There were two (2) females, one being
a doctor and the other being a linguist.
There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben
planet is located within a solar
system of the Zeta Recticular Star System [two 5th-magnitude yellow
double stars, similar to our Sun located near the Large Magellanic
Cloud]. The planet had two (2) suns but their angles were small and
allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's location.
The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to
be cooler. The planet was a little less than Earth's size. The
atmosphere was similar to Earths and contained the elements of CHON
[Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen Nitrogen]. Zeta Recticular is approximately 37
[38.2] light years from us. It took our team, in an Eben craft, nine
(9) months to travel the distance.
During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy,
disoriented and suffered headaches. The craft did not go through any
weightlessness during the trip. The craft was very large and allowed
the team to exercise.
Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months
to adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they
suffered headaches, dizziness and disorientation. The bright suns of
the Eben planet also presented problems. Although they had sunglasses,
they still suffered from the bright sunlight and the danger of sun
exposure. The radiation levels of the planet was a little higher than
that of Earth. They were careful to cover their bodies at all times.
The Ebens had no forms of refrigeration,
except in industry. The temperature of the planet, at the center
portion [equator], stayed
between 94° and 115.° They did have clouds and rain, but not
frequently. At the northern hemisphere of the planet, the temperature
dropped to between 55 and 80 degrees. This was too cool for the Ebens,
or at least most. Our team did find Ebens living in the north, but in
very small villages.
Our team eventually relocated to the north in order to stay cool. The
ground transportation used by our team was similar to a helicopter.
The power system was a sealed energy device that provided electrical
power and lift for the craft. It was very easy to fly and our pilots
learned the system within days. The Ebens did have vehicles, which
floated above the ground and did not have any tires or wheels.
There were leaders, but no real form of government. There was
virtually no crime seen by the team. They had an army, which also
acted as the [global] police force. But no guns or weapons of any type
were seen by our team. There were regular meetings within each small
community. There was one large community, which acted as the central
point of the civilization. All the industry was at this one large
community. There was NO MONEY.
Every Eben was issued what they needed. No stores, malls or shopping
locations. There were central distribution centers where Ebens went to
obtain items of needs. All Ebens worked in some capacity. Children
were kept very isolated. The only trouble our team members got into
was when they attempted to photograph Eben children.
The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them NOT to do it
again.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1g:
INITIAL E-MAIL BY "ANONYMOUS"
VICTOR:
First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.
As for Roswell, it occurred, but NOT like the story books tell. There
were two (2) crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the
second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.
The crash involved two (2) extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site
was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the
crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy
arrived the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live
entity [EBE] was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given
water but declined food. The entity was later transferred to Los
Alamos. The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The
site was examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken
to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system
that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was
taken to Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.
The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers.
They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of
Catron County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the
sheriff several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the
site, the sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.
Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A
recovery team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six
(6) bodies. The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later
transferred to Los Alamos.
The live entity established communications with us and provided us
with a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until
1952, when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full
explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a
communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his
planet.
Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for
April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved
the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged.
Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.
In 1965, we had AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WITH THE ALIENS. We carefully
selected 12 military personnel; ten (10) men and two (2) women. They
were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system.
The 12 were skilled in various specialties.
Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and
the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan
was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.
But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were
returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven (7) men and one (1)
woman returned. Two (2) died on the alien's home planet. Four (4)
others DECIDED TO REMAIN, according to the returnees. Of the eight (8)
that returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.
The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military
installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI)
was responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also CONDUCTED
DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WITH THE RETURNEES.
I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.
I've monitored your e-mails for about six (6) months. I've read
e-mails from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth
about the real Roswell incident or the exchange program.
I'd like to hear what others say about this.
– ANONYMOUS
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The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO,"
Final Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword.
Further
information
–
The Armadillo-like creature was NOT aggressive, it just scared the
Team Members. The Eben guide directed some type of sound (very high
pitch) at the Armadillo creature and that scared it away. These
creatures were seen at several locations around the planet. Some were
larger than others, but they were NOT aggressive.
– Only the snake-like creature was aggressive, which forced the Team
to kill one. The snake-like creatures were located in just one (1)
location and the Team never saw another one.
– As for birds, there were two (2) types of flying creatures. One
resembled a hawk and the other looked like a large flying squirrel.
Neither were aggressive and the Team could never catch one for
examination.
– As for insects, they had small bugs, similar to cockroaches, but
smaller. They were harmless, but did get into the Team's equipment.
They had a hardened shell, with a soft interior body. The Team
never observed any flying insects, such as flies, wasps, etc. Several
other small bugs were found and identified.
My next posting of information will be the actual journal entries of
one (1) Team Member. Each Team Member was required to keep a journal.
I will provide a partial journal entry (since the journals are
attachments to the original report, they contain hundreds of pages of
written entries). I will provide a few days or possibly a week's worth
of entries from one (1) Team Member.
Photographs
coming:
– One photograph shows the
entire Team standing next to an Eben home, with several Ebens standing
in the background;
– another photograph shows the Team's new home in the north;
– another photograph shows an Eben village in the north;
– another photograph shows a group of Ebens playing their
"soccer" game.
~~~~~
ARRIVING
ON SERPO
Dear
All,
I've just received a new posting from Anonymous. This was not sent to
Victor. It's a continuation from the Team Leader's log.
I present it here verbatim, precisely as I received it. Nothing has
been changed, added or deleted.
This has just been posted to the website at http://www.serpo.org/information.html#12.
Best to all, Bill
***************
I
dreamt of earth. I
really had some vivid dreams of Colorado, the mountains, the snow and
my family. It was if I was really there. I had no worries
and never thought of my situation inside the foreign spaceship. Then
I awoke. I was confused and disoriented. I was in a bowl,
well, it looked like a bowl to me. I don't remember how I got
here. My first thought was to my crew. I pushed open the
top of this glass bowl and it opened. I heard a hissing sound
coming from the seams or seals. I looked around and saw that I
was inside a room. Not a room I remember. But all of us
were inside these glass bowls. All the other crew members were
asleep. I climbed out and realized my legs were really sore.
But I climbed out and went to each glass bowl and checked on the
crew. I found only eleven of us. Somebody is missing.
But who? I am so confused. I'm also very thirsty. I
can't find any of those water bottles. We had some but I can't
find any. My eyes are really having a problem focusing. But
I'm writing this in my log, I have to record everything. I
found number..... He is alive. Who is missing. I
have to look at each bowl.
This
room is large. The ceiling looks like bed mattress. The
walls of this room are soft. Not very much in this room except
for the bowls and some tubes running from the bowls to the floor.
I see lights flashing on the bottom of each bowl. There
are bright lights on in the ceiling. Inside the mattress or
something. I can't open these bowls. I've tried
everything. I must get some help from the Ebens. I found a
door but it won't open. I can't remember how we opened the other
doors. How long have we've been in these bowls? I can't seem to
remember much. Maybe the traveling in space causes problems with
a person's mind.
They
told us this during training but we never had anyone travel this far
in space before. We are the specimens. Maybe I should go
back into the bowl. Maybe I awoke too early. My wristwatch
says it is 1800 hours. But what day, what month, what year? How
long have I been asleep. The floor seems to be soft with wires
running in a cris cross pattern. I see some type of television
screen in the corner of the room. I think it might monitor the
other bowls. I can't read anything on the screen because it is
in Eben language. I do make out likes, maybe health monitoring
lines on the screen. I hope that means everyone is breathing and
is alive. But we are missing one man. Did I forget
something? Did someone die? I can't remember. I have some type
of rash on my hands. Real burning sensation. Maybe it is
radiation burns from something. But where are the radiation
monitors we had in our packs? Were are our survival packs? I can't
find anything. I am returning to the bowl. I am lying
down. I will stop making entries in this diary.
I am awake again. Ebens are in the room. My bowl is
open. Some of my crew are walking around. The Ebens are
helping them. I climbed out of my bowl. The English
speaking Eben sees me and I asked him if everyone of my crew was
alright. He doesn't understand, “alright”. I point to
the crew. I say eleven. Where is number twelve? Ebe1 then
points to a bowl that is empty and says, earthman is not living.
Ok, someone died. But who. My crew is walking around
in a state of confusion. I can't get anyone's attention. They
look like the living dead. What is wrong with them? I asked
Ebe1, what is wrong with them. Ebe1 replied, space sick, but
will not be sick soon. Ok, that makes sense. I have no
idea how long. We are still flying but don't know how long.
Ebe1 brings some fluids and something looking like a biscuit.
Fluid tastes like chalk and the biscuit doesn't have any taste.
We all eat it and drink the fluid. Almost instantly we
feel better. Ok, get organized. Told 203 to round up all
crew. Found 308 missing. Must be the dead crew member.
Ebe1 came back and lead me to 308. He was in bowl,
something like coffin. 700 and 754 will examine 308. Ebe 1
cautioned us no to take 308 out. Don't understand the caution.
700 and 754 is here. I try to tell Ebe 1 that these guys
are our doctors and must examine 308. Ebe 1 said no, because of
infection. I guess 308 must have had some sort of infection and
it could be contagious. But is 308 dead? Don't know.
We
will take Ebe1 advice. 700 and 754 just looked into the bowl and
said it looks like 308 is dead. Everyone else looks ok. The
fluids and biscuit must have contained some type of energy food.
We can focus our eyes and can actually think. No one can
remember how we got into this room. All our equipment is here.
Everyone is concerned about our status. Ebes are friendly
but won't tell us much. 899 is concerned with being locked into
a room. 633 and 661 thinks we should be keeping busy. I
agree. I order everyone to get their packs and ration belts,
inventory everything inside and see if something is missing. That
will occupy the team for some time. My wristwatch says it is
0400. But what day? Date? Don't know. Very strange not
being able to gauge time. We have no reference inside this room
or this spaceship. The year clock that we brought will be
unpacked once we can get to the stowed gear. We don't know where
that is.
All crew inventoried packs and ration belts. Everything is
accounted for. 899 wants to arm himself with handgun. I
said no. We don't need guns. No Ebese have been hostel
towards us. We got out a compass. It doesn't work. We
got out our radios. We will keep them on our belts. Don't
know if they work away from the room. But we turned them on and
they work. We can hear each other. Good, we have
communication. But we must be careful, the battery life is only
about two days. I suggest everyone start writing down their
thoughts. Keep some sort of a diary, like I am doing. I
was ordered to do this and will continue to do as long as I can.
But I won't keep it by day, since I can't tell when a day ends.
661 suggests we make up a calendar and a time system as long as
we are here. Good idea, he will do that. The calendar will
run on a seven day system. We will use our wristwatches to gauge
a 24 hour period and then consider that one day. We will start
at 0600, which is in about 45 minutes. 518 set up the air
monitor. Seems we are breathing regular air. The team is
joking about 518's nomenclature use for regular air. Good that
we have some humor. Ok, this is the beginning of day 1, it is
0600 hours. 661 will keep calendar. We should have done
this before. We have no idea how long we have been inside this
spaceship, how long we have been traveling. Didn't we get into
the command station? Maybe I dreamed it. I can't find the first
part of my diary.
Ebe1 came in. Told us journey almost over. Lead us to
hallway. We got into moving room and moved to another part of
ship. Came out into large room with many items, I can't identify
them but they look like clothing chests or bedroom chests. We
are also lead to a large table with food. Ebe1 tells us to eat.
He said good food, eat. We'll, we all look at each other.
700 and 754 says lets eat. Ok, we find plates. Seems
like ceramic plates real heavy. I chose something that looks
like a stew. I then got a biscuit, same as we ate earlier.
The drinks were in metal containers. Same fluid we drank
earlier. We all ate. Very little taste in the stew. Something
like potatoes, maybe cucumbers, some type of stems. No really
bad. The biscuits taste the same. Everyone sat and ate.
We found something like apples but didn't taste like apples.
Sweet and soft, I ate one. Leaves an after taste in my
mouth. Team looks happy. Some are joking about not having
any ice cream. Ok, the MVC is in room. First time we saw
him. He speaks through Ebe1. The language really bothers
my ears. The high pitch sounds and then the vocal tones sounds
very strange. Ebe1 tells us MVC wants us to prepare for landing.
Ok, how do we do that. We must get into bowl room and get
in bowl. No one wants to do that but if we have to we will do
that. We must go into bowl room and get in bowl. No one
wants to do that but if we have to we will do it. We are lead
back to moving room and travel back to bowl room. We climb into
the bowl. Some use pot for relief of our bowels and bladders.
Then climb into bowl. The lids close but we are awake.
Just lie there. I fall asleep.
The bowl lids have opened. My wristwatch says 1100. I
guess it is still day 1. We climb out. Ebe1 is at our
side. He tell us. Landing home. Ok, I guess we are
there. We gather our gear. 700 reminds us to wear out
sunglasses once we exit. We pack up and walk down long hallway.
Then into another moving room. We travel for one minute.
Then door open. We are in large room. We see our
stowed gear. Large room, many smaller spaceships stored here.
A large door opens. Bright light. We see the planet
for the first time. We walk down the ramp. Large number of
ebens waiting for us. We see a large eben, largest one we have
seen yet. He comes forward and starts speaking to us.
Ebe1 translate a welcome message from the Leader. I guess
this guy is the leader. About one foot taller than the others.
The leader tells us we are welcome to planet, he called it
something we do not understand. Ebe1 isn't doing a good job
translating.
But
we are lead to an open arena. Looks like a parade field. The
ground is dirt. Looking up, I see blue skies. The sky is
very clear. We see two suns. One brighter than the other.
The landscape looks like a desert, Arizona or new Mexico. No
vegetation that we can see. There are rolling hills but nothing
but dirt. This must be the central village or town. We
landed in an open area with large structures like electrical towers.
Something is sitting on top of these towers. On the center
of the village is a large tower. Looks like a concrete
structure. Very large, maybe 300 feet. Looks like a mirror
is placed on top of this tower. All the buildings looks like
adobe or mud huts. Some are larger than others. Looking in
one direction, can't tell any actual compass readings but there is a
very large structure. All the ebens are dressed in the same
clothing, except for some of the ebens who were on the spaceship.
Now I see others dressed in a dark blue outfit, different from
the others. Each eben is wearing some type of box on their
belts. All have belts. Can't see any children, but maybe
they are the same size too. Our boots leave an imprint into the
soil. The brightness is almost too much for our eyes without
sunglasses. Looking around 360 degrees, I see buildings and
barren land. Can't see any vegetation. I wonder where they
grow their food. What a planet.
Hard
to believe we will have to live 10 years here. But a journey of
1000 miles begins with one foot step. Can't remember who said
that but that just came to mind. But large numbers of ebens are
welcoming us. They seem friendly. Then, almost shocking
us, someone speaks English. We all look around and see an eben.
This eben speaks very good English. This eben, we call
ebe2, speaks almost fluent English, with exception of not really
pronouncing the letter w. But ebe2 does a good job speaking
English. Ebe2 says we are welcome to the planet serpo. Ok,
that is the name of their planet. Ebe2 shows us a device and
tells us everyone of us must wear it. It looks like a small
transistor radio. We put it on our belts.
The weather is extremely hot. Asked 633 to take temperature.
633 says it is 107 degrees. Very warm. We take off
top jacket and leave us with one piece flight suit.
The
ebens looks at us but seem very friendly. Some are wearing some
type of shawls. I asked Ebe2 about that, Ebe2 says they are
females. Ok, I see. They all look alike. Really hard
to tell one apart except for uniform. Some have different
colored uniforms. I asked Ebe2 about that, Ebe2 says military
uniform. Ok, that makes sense.
Ebe2
lead us to a series of huts, looking like adobe style houses. There
are four. Behind them is an underground room, or storage area.
It is built into the ground, underground. We have to walk
down a ramp. The doors look like a military igloos that store
our atomic bombs on earth. All our gear taken off the spaceship
is stored there. We walked down into this area. Very large
room. Very cool, a lot cooler. We might have to sleep
here. All our gear is there. Sixteen palates of gear.
This igloo is made up of something like concrete but not the
same texture. Feels like soft rubber but still hard. The
floor is made of the same stuff. There are lights in the
ceiling. Looks like spot lights. They have electricity.
We must inventory all our gear sometime.
We
go back to huts. The huts are cooler than outside. But
still very warm. We must get organized. I tell Ebe2, we
will need to be alone and get organized. Ebe2, then I realize
Ebe2 is female, says ok, We will be left alone.
I
asked for the body of 308 . Ebe2 seems to be confused and
doesn't know about any body. I explained to Ebe2 held her hands
across her body and bowed her head. It was really an emotional
site because she was almost crying. Ebe 2 told us that the body
would be brought to us but she must check with her trainer. The
word trainer kind of shocked me. Is Ebe2 in training and someone
is teaching her? Or is the word trainer in Eben something different in
English. Maybe that means leader or commander. Don't know.
But Ebe2 left.
I
told 203 to gather everyone in the lower storage area. We will
have a team meeting. 633 suggested we start the calendar as of
today. It is 1300 on our Day 1 on planet Serpo.
~~~~~~~~
Bill, a consistency problem again. In the first
postings Anon said,
But
something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were
returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven men and one woman
returned. Two died on the alien's home planet. Four others decided to
remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all
have died. The last survivor died in 2002.
Now we've got one dying on the way to the
planet. I don't know about others but having been trained in the
Sciences consistency is very, very important. As for the Hybrid stuff
there are people on this list who don't believe in Abductions or that
Aliens are creating Human Hybrids. I think there is enough consistent
information on that to say it might be very
true......Regards.....Robert C
Bill Ryan wrote:
Hi,
All –
I’ve just received more information from Anonymous – quite a
lot of it. I’ll wait a short while (a few hours) before posting it
all, for reasons that will become apparent below. I want everyone to
have the chance to read this first.
This one is a shocker. This preliminary posting is just to prepare
everyone to brace themselves. Not wishing to be dramatic, but this
is quite something and I have absolutely no idea where it goes from
here.
I received this message below on the website contact form on 7
December, the day after the C2C show. I immediately relayed it to
Victor, asking him to check with Anon whether the information was
correct or a hoax.
The reply came back that it was indeed correct but was a very long
story which would NOT be made public, and we should under no
circumstances release the information. So we didn’t, and sat on
it... not knowing quite what to think. Now – in further indication
of a policy reversal – we’re being asked to do just that.
Here’s the 7 December message in its entirety:
******************
From: "T.G.H." mailto:contact@serpo.org
Date: 7 Dec 2005 09:11:23 -0000
To: "Serpo.org" mailto:contact@serpo.org
Subject: Contact
There is much, much more to this story. One person, a male, died
during the trip to Zeta. He suffered a pulmonary embolism. In
addition, an autopsy was performed at which time the deceased
individual's DNA was extracted and stored. At a later tine,
the DNA was used in a cloning type process which actually involved
creating a hybrid being, part human, part alien. Through an
advanced aging process and something called rapid-cycling cloning,
several hundred hybrid beings were created. Some remain on Zeta, but
others were returned to Earth. This can be verified in
documents contained in the ZR Repro Factor file.
******************
Dear
All –
I post this new information without comment apart from pointing out
that the first piece is the day after the team landed, while the
second (which follows next) is eighteen months into their mission.
All typos are uncorrected.
Best wishes, Bill
*******************************
We had a serious problem. How do we explain
our science to an alien entity, who doesn't know Einstein, Kepler or
any of the other scientists of our time. Simple mathematics,
seems so foreign to them. Ebe2 is the smart one. She
seems to understand our language more than 1 and 2. She even
seems to understand our basic math. We started with the basic
math. 2 plus 2. Then progressed on. She understood
and even caught on so quick that she continued on without our help.
We realize she has a great IQ when she repeated 1000 times
1000 and came up with an answer. We showed her our slide rule.
It took her a couple of minutes to figure it out, although I
don't think she fully understood all the symbols on the slide rule.
She
is really something. We found a personality in her. Maybe
because we have more contact with her than the others. She is
very warm hearted, one can just sense that in her. She really
cares about us and she even worries about us. During our first
night, she seemed to make sure everything was just right for
us.
She
warned us of the heat and the light. She mentioned that SERPO
does not get dark, like earth. I wonder how she knew that?
Has she visited earth? Maybe she is just educated on earth's
properties. Maybe they have books about earth. Anyway,
on the first night, she told us about the winds, what winds. Gusty
winds start just when the one sun sets. The other sun does not but
stays in the lower horizon. The winds blow dust, free dust
into our huts. We had a very difficult first night. We
call it night but it seems that the Ebens just call it a period of
their day. Ebe3 knew the word day but didn't compare it to
earth's day. Maybe
she hasn't been to earth. We didn't sleep well during our
night. The Eben's don't sleep, like we do. They seem to rest
for periods of time and then wake and go about their business,
whatever that might be, When we awoke, Ebe2 was there, outside our
hut. I
opened the door and she was waiting. Why? How did she
know we were awake? Maybe the huts are being monitored by some
sensor. Ebe2 told us to follow her to the eating place. She
didn't use the word dining hall or chow hall or facility. She
used the word place. Once I gathered the team, we walked
across the village, I'll call it a village for the sake of wording.
We
entered a large building. It seemed to be large, based on the
small stature of the Ebens. There were food on tables. I
guess we'd call this place a chow hall. Ebens looked at us but
carried on eating. Do they not cook inside their huts? Maybe
everyone eats here. We
walked to the food tables. Same food we saw and ate on the
spaceship except some items were different. They bad large
bowls of something like fruits. Strange looking things. They
also had something like cottage cheese, it tasted like sour milk but
after the initial taste, alright. I encouraged each team
member to eat and drink. We might as well get use to the food.
But 700 tells us to eat just one of their meals a day and stick to
our C-rations for the other meals. That way, our system will
adjust to the Eben food. We
sat at a table, small compared to our standards and ate. The
Ebens numbering, probably about 100, just ate and didn't really
bother us. Every now and then, we would catch Ebens staring at
us. But we were the freaks, not them. We are the
visitors. We are the aliens. We must really look strange
to them. We all look different, they all look the same. How
can they compare us to them? They can't. We stare at
them, they stare at us. We
then see a different looking Eben. Very strange looking
creature, large, long arms, almost floats along with long legs.
Can't be an Eben. We all stare. This creature just
floats by us and didn't even look at us. I find Ebe2. She
is eating with three others. Once I approach her, she stands
and almost bows her head towards me. Maybe just a greeting,
have to remember that. I ask her abet the creature we saw, I
ask if that was some other type of Eben. Ebe2 seems confused.
She asked me what creature. I used the word creature. Maybe
that was an insult or maybe she didn't know the word. I
pointed to the thing at the other end of the building. She
then saw what I meant. Ebe2 said, no Eben, just visitor.
Like you, pointing to me. Ok, I see, they have other
alien visitors here. I guess we are not the only ones. I
then asked Ebe2 what planet did that visitor come from? Ebe2 said,
something like CORTA, not sure of the exact work although I asked
her to repeat it twice. Ok,
where is CORTA? She walks me to a television, at least it
looks like one. It is positioned in the corner of the building.
It is set up like some type of command station. She
places her finger on the glass and something appears. The
universe? Star systems. I don't recognize any of them.
She points to a spot and says CORTA. Ok,
where is earth? She points to another spot and says earth.
Based on this television glass space map, CORTA and earth are
very close. But I don't know the scale of this map.
Maybe they are a trillion miles apart or maybe 10 light years.
But they seem close. I'll have to have one of the
scientists look at this and see. Ok,
I thank Ebe2. She seems pleased. She almost looks like a
angel. She seems so very nice. She touched my hand and
pointed to my table and said, eat. Good eat? I laughed
and said, yes, good chow hall food. She looked puzzled. I
guess she doesn't know what a chow hall is. I pointed to the
building and said, chow hall, earth eating place. She repeated what
I said, chow hall, earth eating place. I laughed and walked
away. Now she will think all earth restaurants are called chow
halls.
We retuned to our huts. We must get better organized. We
have a meeting. Everyone seems ok. We wonder about latrines,
Where do we relieve ourselves. Ebe1 comes by, almost as if he
was reading our minds, maybe they can even do that. He tells
shows us pot in hut. We all wondered what that was. Ok,
that is our latrine. Realized that won't work very well but
we'll do what we can. Then we realize the pot has some sort of
chemical inside. Our wastes are dissolved or something like
that. Can't really tell. Each of the four huts have one.
That will work for the time being. Ebe2
tells us to walk on ground. Not sure what he means by that but
420 says that might we to just walk around. Ok, that we will do.
I organize the teams102 will remain with 225. I want 633
and 661 to look at the television glass map and see if they can tell
which star system is CORTA. I ask 518 to take temperature
readings and general weather observations. I know it is hot.
Very hot. Most be over 140 degrees. 754 warns us
to keep covered from sun radiation. 754 says radiation levels
are high. Doesn't sound very good to me. This reminds me
of Nevada. 1956, during one of the atomic bomb testing. We
had hot weather and we had to worry about the radiation from the
atomic blasts. Now we are on a strange planet 40 light years
from earth and we have radiation and heat. But we have to
explore that is why we were sent. We starting walking around
475 will take photographs with our military cameras. I hope the film
is affected by the radiation. How do we develop it? Maybe we
didn't think of everything. I
team up with 225. We walk to a large open door building. We
walk in and it looks like a classroom but no Ebens are here. There
is a large television tube, it takes up the entire wall. There are
some lights flashing on this television tube. We examine the
tube. It is very thin. I wonder how it works. Where
are the tubes or the electronics. But maybe they are more
advanced in this area than us. They must be. We don't
find touch else in this building. We
move on, wow, it is so very hot, I hope l get use to it. We find a
large tower. Looks like a antenna tower but it has a large
mirror. We saw this when we first arrived yesterday. We
find an Eben standing near the door but he moves to one side. We
ask him if he understands English. He just stares at us but seems
friendly. I guess he doesn't speak English. We move on
into the
building, Can't find
any stairs. But we see some type of round glass room. Maybe
it is an elevator. Then we hear English. We
turn around and find Ebe2 standing there. Where did she come
from? I her if we may explore this building. She said
yes, of course, She points to the glass room and says go up. Ok,
we enter the glass room. The glass door closes and go up real
fast. In no time we are at the top. But what is this.
We ask Ebe2, what is this. She points to the sun and
then points to the top of the room, where the mirror is located.
She then points to the ground. Ok, we see it. The
tower is in the middle of a circle. The circle is situated on the
ground. In each quadrant of the circle is a symbol. I
see that the sun is directed through the mirror maybe this isn't a
mirror as we know it since the sunlight travels through it, but once
the sunlight travels through it, the light is directed on a symbol
within the circle. Ebe2 says that when light contacts symbol
then Ebens make change. Not sure what that means. Maybe
she means it tells the Ebens what to do. 225 seems to think it
is a sun dial. When the sun strikes a symbol, the Ebens change
what they are doing and do something else. Maybe the Eben day
is structured. Or maybe this is their clock. Strange.
But we are on an alien planet. I'm
glad I still have my sense of humor. This is only our first
day, first day of school. We have a lot to learn. We
have to keep an open mind. We can't keep comparing things to
earth. We have to open our minds to new ideas and new science.
All these things are foreign to us but we must learn. I
pointed to my wristwatch and then pointed to the ground and in a
gesture to show Ebe2 that the two items are time pieces. Not
sure if she understood. But I said time and she then
understood.. Yes, she said, Eben time, pointing to the ground.
I pointed again to the wristwatch and said, earth time. Ebe2
then almost smiled and said, no, no earth time on SERPO. Ok,
that makes sense. 225 said, she just told us that earth time
doesn't work on SERPO. Yes, I guess she did. What good
is our watches or time device here? They don't work. We
have to start using Eben time. But we must also maintain our
time because we must know when to leave. Ten years seem like a
million. Maybe based on Eben time that it might just be a
million years. Lets hope not. No
time to think about home, we have a mission and duties to perform.
We are a military team and we must maintain that idea. 225
and myself go back into the glass bowl and go down to the ground.
We walk onto another building, large again. Inside we
find rolls and rolls of plants. This must be some sort of
greenhouse, They are growing food. Many Ebens are inside.
They look
at us with some glares. But we just walk in and around. One
Eben comes up to us and speaks but in Eben. He seems to be
telling us something. He points to the ceiling and then to our
heads. Maybe he is telling us to cover our heads. We must find
Ebe2. We
go back outside and then finds Ebe2, she always seems to be near.
Now we understand why, she is monitoring us by the devices we
are wearing on our belts. I ask Ebe2 what is that building.
She says food making place. Ok, maybe we contaminated
the place. We told her that another Eben spoke to us and then
pointed to our heads. Ebe2 seemed confused and walked back
into the building with us. The same Eben exchanged words with
Ebe2. Ebe2 then told us that we must wear a cover on our heads
in order to enter. Why? But we don't argue. This other
Eben produces some sort of cloth had and we wear it. We walk
about, the Eben seemed happy, We look at their plants. They
are growing food in soil. They have a watering system. They
also have some sort of transparent cloth over each plant. I
point to the watering system and ask Ebe2, if that is water,
drinking water. Ebe2 said yes. Then she senses we are
thirsty. Ebe2 leads us to a place near another entrance and
offers us water, at least we think it is water. Tastes like
chemicals but it is water. Actually tastes good.
The leader of the Ebens is a
larger creature than the others. He seems to be more
aggressive than the other Ebens. When I write aggressive, I
don't me in a hostile way. He seems to be the boss, similar to me,
as the team commander. His voice, although after all this
time, I still can't understand any words, is harsh and with a tone
that is different from the rest. 203 claims the leader has an
attitude. I agree. He is extremely friendly to us and has
accommodated all our requests. The leader has requested many
things from us. Most of which, we have provided. One
strange thing is our blood.
He
wanted all of us to supply blood samples. Ebe2 explained that
the blood or health fluid as Ebe2 explained it, was necessary for
them to supply any medicine to us if we should ever need it. 700
and 754 feels that a blood sample might just be used for other
purposes. We have allowed the Ebens to utilize 308's body for
experiments. They took all 308s blood, that was without my
approval. I wrote about that in log 3888. We had a very
tense situation with the Ebens about that. When we traveled to
the building housing 308s body, we were confronted by several Ebens.
Ebe1 showed up and I explained that we wanted the body of 308.
Ebe 1 told us the body was in storage and we could not take
it. We told Ebe 1 that we will take it.
The
eleven of us walked by the Ebens, numbering six and walked into the
building. They did not attempt to stop us. While inside,
we could not open any of the containers. There was some type
of system, maybe crypto style, that was being used to lock the
containers. We did find the container housing 308's body.
We decided to send 899 to our storage area and get some
explosives to open the container.
Ebe2
showed up with the leader. Ebe2 was extremely polite and asked
us to wait. She used the word please several times. In
fact, she actually used the English word beg. We backed off and I
told Ebe2 that we wanted our friends body and we wanted to examine
it.
Ebe2
translated that to the leader. There was a long exchange of
words between the two. Finally, Ebe2, who seemed very frustrated
told us that the leader would like us to go to another location and
speak with another Eben, a doctor, about the body of 308. Ebe2
explained that everything wanted to know about 308's body would be
explained to us by the Eben doctor, who Ebe2 said spoke
English.
I
told Ebe 2 that I would leave 899 and 754 here to guard the body and
I would take the others to the location containing the doctor.
Ebe2 translated that to the leader. Again, there was a
long drawn out exchange of words between the two. It lasted for
several minutes. Finally, Ebe2 stated that the leader would like all
of us to leave this building and go to visit with the doctor. I told
Ebe2, no, I would not leave the body of 308 alone.
I
felt that this was going to be a confrontation. I told 518 and
420 to go back, obtain our handguns and come back ASAP. I was not
going to allow the Ebens to counterman my decisions. When Ebe2
heard this, she told me to wait and placed her hand against my
chest. I told her to translate that to the leader. Again,
there were several minutes of word exchanges between the two. Ebe2
then stated that the leader would bring the doctor here to discuss
the situation with us.
Ebe2
asked me to please don't send your men for guns. Guns are not
needed, we can settle this without guns. Please don't. I
told Ebe2 that we would not get the guns but we would not leave
until we saw 308's body. The leader did something with the
communication device on his belt.
About
20 minutes later, three Ebens showed up inside this building. One
of the Ebens, who identified himself as a doctor and who spoke very
good English. This doctor had a strange sounding voice, almost
like a human's voice. This doctor did not have a high pitch
accent, like Ebe1 and Ebe2. I was very impressed with this
doctor. I just wonder where he has been for these past 18
months. We have never saw him before.
This
doctor told us that 308s body was not inside the container. The
Ebens have done experiments with 308s body because they considered
it an honor to have such a specimen to work with. The doctor
told us they have used 308s body to create a type of cloned human
being.
I
stopped the doctor at this point. I told the doctor that the
body of my teammate was the property of the United States of
America, planet Earth. The body did not belong to the Ebens.
I did not authorize any experiments on the body of 308. I
explained that humans consider a body to be religious. Only I could
have authorized the use of 308s body for experiments.
I demanded to see the body. This doctor explained the body was
gone. This doctor said all the blood, body organs were taken
out and used to clone other beings.
The
use of the word beings really scared me and the others. 899
became extremely angry. He called the doctor curse names.
I ordered 899 to be quiet. I then told 203 to take 899
out of the building. I realized this matter could really
blossom into a major incident. I could not allow that to
happen. There were just eleven of us and we realized that if
the Ebens wanted to imprison us or kill us, they could do it very
easily. But I didn't think the Ebens would resort to such
behavior. I was not going to allow this incident to advance
into something worse. I realized there wasn't much we could do
about what the Ebens have done with 308s body.
Ebe2
looked very upset. Ebe2 told me that everyone should be nice,
she repeated the word nice many times. Ebe2 did not want this
matter to escalate. I kind of felt sorry for Ebe2. She
was trying to mediate the matter.
203
suggested we return to our living quarters and have a team meeting.
I
told the leader that I did not want any further interference between
whatever is left of 308s body and experiments. I pointed my
finger towards the leader's face. Ebe2 translated, along with
the doctor. The doctor, who was extremely straightforward,
told me that nothing further would happen with the body, but advised
me very little was left of the body.
Ebe2 then told me the leader was concerned that we were upset.
That we were their guests. That the leader was upset
that we were offended. The leader did not wish to upset us and
promised that nothing further would happen to the body. I
thanked Ebe2 and had her relay
that to the leader.
We
returned to out huts. Everyone was upset, especially 899.
I told each member to calm down. I explained our
situation, as if each team member didn't already realize it, that we
were only eleven military personnel. We had no way of fighting
the Ebens. We did not come 40 light years to start a war with
the Ebens. A war we could not win. We could not even win
a simple fist fight with the Ebens. Yes, maybe we could beat
them up but what then. We have to realize out situation and act
accordingly. I ordered each member to reconsider the situation
and to except the facts about 308s body.
I told 633 and 700 to investigate this cloning procedure with the
English speaking Eben doctor. Lets get all the facts about what they
did with the body and what we can find out about the body and the
Ebens experiments with the body.
Ebe2 came to the hut. I told Ebe2 that 633 and 700 were going
to examine what was left of 308s body. They would also conduct
research into the Ebens experiments done on 308s body.
Ebe2
look very concerned.
It
is sometimes difficult for us, even after the time we have been on
this planet, to determine the meaning of facial expressions on Ebens
face.
Ebe2
replied that she must first obtain approval, approval was a new word
for Ebe2. She was must reading or learning our language. Maybe
she is just picking up our words.
I
told Ebe2 that she can go get permission but that we were told when
we arrived that we did not have any restrictions on where we went.
Ebe2
said she would speak with the leader.
633
and 700 gathered test equipment and prepared themselves for the
examination of the Eben laboratory.
According
to our time devices, Ebe2 came back about 80 minutes later. Ebe2
said it was alright for my men to visit their laboratory.
I
decided that I would also visit it. Myself, 633 and 700 were
escorted by Ebe2 to the laboratory facility. We had to be
taken by the helitransport device, as we call their helicopters.
It took us sometime before arriving at this location.
According to our compass readings, which are not really a compass
reading but we made points of references and according to them, we
traveled north.
The
facility was large, by Eben standards. The building looked
like a large single story windowless school. We landed on the
roof, or maybe just a landing zone on the roof. We were
escorted down a walkway or ramp. They don't have ladders on
this planet. I think I wrote about this in one of my past
entries. They have ramps. We arrived in a room. White
walls. We then walked through a hallway into another larger room.
We met our English speaking doctor. We saw many other
Ebens, all dressed in a bluish colored one piece suit. Different
from their ordinary suits I spoke of in past entries.
The
doctor told us that all the experiments done inside this building,
he didn't call it a laboratory, just a building, is done to create
cloned beings. We were lead into another room, where there
were rolls of containers, looking like glass bathtubs.
Inside each bathtub were bodies. I was shocked, as were 700
and 754. Bodies. Strange looking bodies. Not human
bodies, at least not all of them. We started walking down the
space between the tubs. We looked into the tubs. These
were hideous looking creatures. I asked the doctor what type
of creatures were inside these tubs. The doctor told us that
these creatures came from other planets. 700 asked the doctor
were these creatures dead when they arrived? Or did the Ebens bring
them here dead. The doctor said all the creatures were brought
to the planet alive. 700 asked if the creatures were kidnapped
or brought here against their wishes.
The
doctor was not sure of the word kidnapped.
The doctor seemed puzzled. The doctor asked about the
question. 700 said that these creatures were taken from
another planet and brought to
Serpo
without permission from them or their leaders of their planet.
The doctor said that these beings were brought here for
experiments. These creatures are not intelligent beings.
Ebe2 then used the word animals.
Ok,
now I understand. All these creatures are animals from other
planets. The doctor didn't seem to understand the word animal.
Ebe2 and the doctor exchanged words in Eben and the doctor then
said, yes, they are animals.
I
then asked if there were any intelligent creatures in this building.
The doctor said, yes, but that all of them were dead when they
arrived on
Serpo.
700 asked to see these creatures. The doctor corrected
700 by saying beings.
Ok,
I guess creatures are animals and beings are like humans. Let
me first write down the description of these creatures inside these
tubs. They are not all alike.
The
first creature I see inside the tub looks like a porcupine. It
appears to have a tube placed inside of it. The tube leads to a box
underneath the tub. The second creature I see looks like a
monster. It has a large head, big deep set eyes, no ears, a
mouth, but no teeth. It is about five feet long and has two
lower legs but no feet. It has two arms but it doesn't appear
to have any elbows. It has hands but no fingers. This
creature also has a tube going through it.
The
next creature looked like nothing I can compare it to. It had
blood red skin, two spots in the middle, maybe eyes. No arms
or legs. It had a very strange odor. The skin appeared
to be blotchy with scales. Maybe like a fish. Maybe it
is a fish.
The
next creature was human like. But the skin was white, not skin
white, the color white. The skin was wrinkled. The head
was large, with two eyes, two ears and a mouth. The neck was
very small. The head almost looked as if it sat on the lower
torso. The chest was thin, with large bone like protrusions.
The arms were curled, with hands but no thumbs. The legs
were also curled with feet but only three toes.
I
couldn't look at any more
creatures. We walked down another hallway, through a room, down a
ramp, into another room. We came into a room that looked like
a hospital room. There were many beds, or at least sometime of
bed, Eben style bed. I described them before. In each
bed was a living being, as the doctor called it. The doctor
told us that each being was alive and well cared for. 700
asked the doctor if these beings were ill or sick. Ebe2 had to
translate that but the doctor said, no, they are being lived. The
three of us seemed really stunned by that word lived.
I
asked Ebe2 what the doctor meant. Ebe2 exchanged words with
the doctor. Ebe2 then used the word grown.
700
asked the doctor if these were the cloned beings that he mentioned
before. The doctor said yes that each being was being grown,
using the same word as Ebe2 just used.
754
asked the doctor if these beings were being grown like a plant.
The doctor said yes that is a good comparison.
700
asked the doctor how are they grown. The doctor said that
certain parts of other beings were used to grow these beings. The
doctor said he could not explain the process in English because he
didn't know the words. 700 then asked Ebe2 if she could
explain the growing process. Ebe2 said she did not know the
English words. Ebe2 said that parts of the blood and other organs
are used to mix a substance that is placed inside the bodies of
these beings. That was all Ebe2 could explain in English.
I
told 700 to go back and get 420 and bring them back. While we
waited for 420, we looked at these beings. They were
breathing. They looked like humans, most of them. Two of the
beings on the end looked like humans with dog heads. These beings
were not awake. They were either sleeping or drugged.
420
returned. I told 420 to see if he could translate the method
used to grow these beings. 420 then spoke with Ebe2. 420 is
really good. However long we have been hear, some guess about
18 months earth time, 420 learned the language well. 420 then
said that the growing process involved cells taken from other
beings, grown and mixed with chemicals and then inserted into the
bodies of other beings. That was about all 420 could explain. 420
did not know the words Ebe2 used. But the word cells were
used. Ebe2 then told me that some things were taken from
inside the cells.
700
and 754 then asked if the item take from inside the cells were cell
membranes or identification markers for the cells. Ebe2 translated
that to the doctor.
Both
seemed confused and said they could not explain the process because
they did not know the English words for it.
700 used the word advance biological extraction of the cell
membranes. But neither Ebe2 or the doctor knew anything about
that process.
I
asked 754 if he might understand what they were doing.
754
said that human cells contain smaller substance that can identify
the structure with the membranes of the cell. This isn't
something that earth technology has advance but 754 has read about
it prior to leaving. But 754 doesn't think that earth
technology can be used to grown living cells into what the Ebens
have done.
The
Ebens must have found a way to grow cells and to make them into
living beings. 700 and 754 said nothing like his is known on
earth.
I
then asked the doctor if 308s body was used to create a being.
The doctor said yes, and showed us the being. I was
shocked, as was 700 and 754. This being, with our teammates
blood and cells, looked like a large Eben. But the hands and legs
were similar to humans.
[ SPECIAL NOTE FROM VICTOR MARTINEZ: The dead
Team Member's body #308 was cloned with a creature called an "Archquloid"
"A-R-C-H-Q-U-L-O-I-D"
which originates from another star system and is one of 200+
civilizations that the Ebens regularly interface with on either
exploratory and/or trading routes/missions.
This information was NOT made known to co-moderator Bill Ryan, but
was revealed to me in an "Eyes Only" e-mail on Thursday,
December 8, 2005 @ 8:17 p.m., which I've never released, though I am
now considering doing so. If "my" ANONYMOUS asks me
to NOT reveal/release his private e-mail to me, I WILL respect his
wishes and "kill" it.
How
could they have grown this being so quick. Obviously, this is
well above our intelligence. I saw all I wanted to see. I told
the doctor that we would like to leave.
Ebe2
saw that I was upset and touched my hand. Instantly, I felt
concern. Ebe2 was really concerned about what I saw. Ebe2 said
we leave. We traveled outside this building, a building that I
did not wish to see again. I saw the dark side of this
civilization. The Ebens are not the humane civilization we
thought they were. But I must say they didn't hide anything.
The doctor spoke straight to us. Just like the Ebens.
They don't know how to lie. Seeing what we saw will
change our impression of the Ebens as long as we stay on this
planet.
Posting
Sixteen by Anonymous (9 March, 2006)
[Note by BR: This posting was received
by myself while at the Laughlin UFO Congress, Nevada. There are two
parts:
1)
A sample of the Eben written language (original on left; sample
enlargement on right; click on either for a higher-resolution
image);
2)
A further instalment of the Team Commander's Log, posted verbatim as
before. The final sentence is also verbatim, and apparently
incomplete.]


It
was difficult to speak science to the Ebens. How do we explain
Einstein? How do they explain their Einstein? We had a difficult
time relating our science to them. However, they seemed to
understand our physics and chemistry quicker than we can. We managed
to observe some strange things about their technology. First, we
took apart one of the locators, they placed on our belts. It wasn't
easy. There were no screws or bolts holding it together. We had to
break the thing. The electronics inside was nothing we have ever
observed. There were no transistors, tubes, rectifiers, coils or
other electronic components like our technology. This thing had just
wires and some bulges in the wires at certain points. There was two
components, which none of use have ever seen. We could not use our
frequency counter to determine the frequency it transmitted and
received. It was out of our range. 633 and 661 used some other
equipment to analyze the thing but couldn't understand it. We asked
the Eben Scientist, who we called Ebe4. The problem was the
translation Ebe 2 had to translate because Ebe 4 didn't speak
English. A lost is lost in translation even though Ebe 2 does a
pretty good job with English.
We
showed Ebe 4 one of our portable radios. The Motorola FM radio was
pretty complex to us. It was new and contained four channels.
661 took apart the radio in front of Ebe 4, explained the parts and
the different crystals we use for frequency. Ebe 4 couldn't
understand it. He seemed as lost with our radio as we did with
theirs. Ebe 2 told us that Ebe 4 couldn't understand the radio or
how it worked. So that was our dilemma. How do we exchange science.
Each
of our civilizations must learn from the other. So, we decided to
begin a school. Our first days were pretty tough. We started with
simple things. which we thought would be similar to what they would
know. We chose light. 661, who did some teaching before, started
with wavelengths. 661 started with nonvisible light and the
different angstroms. Then 661 showed them the spectrum of light. 661
showed them cosmic rays and how we measured them. Then he went to
gamma rays, x-rays and ultraviolet light. 661 explained that light
was what we called electromagnetic waves. Over a period of eben
days, 661 explained everything he knew about light, frequencies and
a description of the frequency bands.
During
this time, several other Ebens came in and listened. Ebe 2 was
extremely tasked with translating this. Ebe 2 had a difficult time
explaining everything 661 said because she didn't know the Eben
words for everything. But she did an outstanding job of describing
what 661 was saying. I don't think Ebe 4 got everything 661 said but
it didn't take long for Ebe 4 to realize what 661 was describing.
661 then showed Ebe 4 a repair manual for one of our test equipment.
Since everything, or almost everything we brought was military, it
was a military manual. The manual contained schematics of the
circuits. Ebe 4 was completely lost. But eventually figured out what
661 was showing him was the inside of the test equipment. 661 then
started showing the basics of electricity. Ohms laws, different
formulas to figure voltage and amperes. Ebe 4 was confused, to say
the least. But one of the other Ebens. who had came in to listen,
grasped the idea quickly. We called this Eben, Ebe 5 or the
Einstein. This Eben was smart, exceptionally smart. After three
years, we finally meet an Eben who can grasped our science. The only
problem is he couldn't speak English. But he asked questions, which
Ebe 4 didn't really do. Although it took several lessons to teach
Ebe 5 what each letter meant in a formula, Ebe 5 finally realized
what we were saying. This Eben must of have an IQ of 300. Ebe5
actually solved some simple problems set up by 661. Basic
electricity, solving for the amount of resistance in a circuit,
simple things like that. It was a remarkable scene.
Ebe
5 became our ace student. We couldn't get rid of the guy. He
followed us around and asked questions through Ebe 2. When Ebe 2
wasn't available, he would simple point and shrug his shoulders.
We'd speak to him in English or have 420 or 475 translate to him.
But only 420 could understand most of what Ebe 5 was saying. This
come to another interesting point. Ebe 5 looked a little different
than the rest of the Ebens. During the last several years, we have
noticed some of the Ebens, especially the ones who live up north,
look different. There heads seem to be bigger. They have a more
weathered looking face. Ebe 5 is from the north. He lives in the
second village to our north. The distance is approximately 5
kilometers. I drew the map in entry 4432, showing all the villages
in the north. I'm sure they have more villages farther away but we
haven't visited them yet. Ebe 5 also does not have a mate. This is
strange but not totally uncommon. We have found several Ebens
without mates. We haven't delved into the personal life of Ebe 5 but
518 wants to.
I
explained in one entry about the Eben technology when it comes to
screws, bolts, etc. They don't have any. Everything they make is
sealed with some sort of solder or melting method. When we visited
their manufacturing plant, we were amazed at how efficient they were
with manufacturing furniture, their helicopters or flying devices.
We still haven't seen their main spacecraft manufacturing plant. It
must be in the far west and south. I'm sure we will visit the place
someday. We still have seven years, or at least seven earth years
left.
As
I mentioned before, we have totally lost track of earth time. We
gave that up many of our years ago. We have gauged our time on Eben
time, which is extremely complex, as I mentioned before. We had a
feast today. What a feast. We used our last C-Rations but the Ebens
didn't really care for our food. We did kill a beast. As I mentioned
before, the Ebens allowed us to kill the beasts for meat. The meat
isn't really bad, 899 says it tastes like Bear, which I never ate.
But Ebens look at us very strange when we eat meat. Strange, they
can clone creatures and other species of humans but they can't eat
meat. How strange they are. But they allow us to do just about
anything we want and eating meat is something we need for the
protein. We used the last of our salt and pepper, which does make
eating their food more of a challenge. The Ebens don't have anything
similar to salt and pepper. They do have an herb, as we, call it,
something like Oregano which they use. It has a tart taste but we
have developed a taste for it. The feast was great.
We
participated in the dances, which the Ebens really like. They get
great pleasure dancing and playing their strange games. I described
the games before but this feast, we saw something different. The
game was played like chess but with Ebens standing on a large square
area of the compound. The squares were divided into 24 sets. Each
set had another 2 spots. Just how or why the Ebens moved was a
mystery to us. One of the Ebens would say a word and then another
Eben would move. It appeared that it was a team game. Six Ebens on
each side. We couldn't figure it out but at the end,, the Ebens
danced with each other, signifying a victory, we think. It was a fun
day.
My
team played softball, with some hard nosed Ebens, who have learned
the game. Well for the most part. They still haven't figured out
they have to catch the ball before it hits the ground. But they had
fun. We have found some extremely gifted athletics among the Ebens.
Then again, we found some who had no athletic ability. Just like
humans. Our softball game ended when the rains came. We ended up
inside the community building. We finished our meals and separated
to our living area.
As
we do each day,, we have our end of day briefing. We check each
other for psychological condition and medical health. Our day ends
and we start our eight hours of rest. Ebens have a different period
of time, as I mentioned before. They rest about four hours, for
every 10 hours working time. But we must consider their hour is
longer and that their days are longer. So we stopped using our time
and used the Eben time. It is difficult to understand but this is
only a diary. Once I return to Earth, I can explain the time
difference and how we had to use their time instead of ours. I keep
writing about the time in every diary entry but it is important to
note that even though we have been hear for about three years, Earth
time, we have given up Earth time and utilized the Eben time. We
tried to use their two suns as a counting system but that didn't
work. We then tried to use our own watches but that didn't work. So
we gave up our time pieces and just use the Eben's time tower. Each
village has one and it is easy to understand the symbols. Each
symbols means a certain time and certain work period.
Ebe
2 came by after the feast. Ebe 2 was concerned with 754. As I
mentioned in one past entry, 754 became sick. But he has recovered.
We don't know what he suffered but 700 treated him with penicillin,
which worked. We all have had some sort of sickness since we've been
here except 899, that guy is a solid rock. He hasn't been sick, not
even a cold. 706 and 754 are keeping details records of each team
member and their medical and physical condition. We have tried to
keep a steady physical fitness program since we arrived. Some time
we follow it and sometime we don't. But everyone is in pretty good
shape, at least physically. Mentally, that might be another story.
Some team members miss Earth, as I do. But no team member has broke
down or has needed some type of psychological help from 700 or 754.
Our screening process was great.
Keeping
busy is our medicine. We keep extremely busy, exploring and doing
our mission goals. At one of our team meeting recently, 203 and
myself decided to give up the military greetings, saluting that each
member did the first time they saw us. I decided we maintain our
military bearing and manners but we will give up the saluting. Each
team member agreed. I have no problem with that. The Ebens just
stared at us when we did that. But they also have their greetings.
Ebens exchange greetings depending on the time of day. They hug on
certain times, touch fingers on other times and bow at other times.
We still haven't figure out why they do that. Ebe 2 just explained
it was a formal greeting method. Ebens live a very strict life. They
keep a regimented life style. We have seen some variances but only
by a few.
The
military keeps everyone in line. The military acts as a police
force, as I mentioned before. They do not carry any weapons but they
do have different uniforms and every Eben respects that uniform. The
military are patrolling all the time. They walk in pairs and seem to
be extremely friendly but can be very strict. We saw two Ebens
walking across a field. Two military members quickly approached the
two Ebens and pointed to a building. The two Ebens walked to that
building with the military members. The military members were
yelling something at them. At the time, neither 420 or 475 were
available for translation but I figured those two Ebens violated
some custom or law. We have been warned by the military when we
approach something we are not suppose to approach. The military are
very respectful when they deal with us but they don't allow us to
violate any of their customs or laws without warning us. When we
first killed one of the sand snakes, we had six military members at
the scene in no time. It took a great deal of diplomacy to deal with
that situation. But the military never touched us nor threatened
us.
The
Ebens have adjusted to us just as we have adjusted to them. We carry
on our mission and they allow us to do just about anything. The one
forbidden act is not to enter a private living house. We did that
once and was politely escorted out
by the military. There seems to be more military than actually
needed.
They
do have weapons, as I mentioned before. We rarely see any military
member with those weapons. But we have seen them during the alert
that occurred some time ago. Ebe 2 came into our living compound,
just after one of our rest periods. Ebe 2 was excited and told us to
stay inside and not to exit our living quarters. We asked why and
Ebe 2 said that an unknown spacecraft had entered their planet's
orbit. But Ebe 2 assured us that the military will take care of the
problem. We naturally went into our own alert. We issued our weapons
and stood by to guard our living area. We violated her instructions
and went outside. We watched the skies and saw a lot of air traffic.
We then saw all the military members with weapons and something that
looked like field packs. They were in full fighting gear, as 899
called it. The alert didn't last very long and Ebe 2 came back,
looked at us a little curious and then told us everything was
alright and the alert was over. We asked her if the unknown
spacecraft was identified. She said it wasn't a spacecraft but just
a natural piece of space debris and left it at that. We didn't
believe her but we had no way of knowing any difference. We returned
to our normal routines.
~~~~~~~~~
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– POSTING #17 –
A "Project SERPO" MISSION SPECIAL POSTING: AN INVENTORY OF
NEARLY ALL OF THE 90,500 LBS OF EQUIPMENT THAT OUR BRAVE 12 TEAM
MEMBERS TOOK WITH THEM ON THEIR EPIC 13-YEAR JOURNEY TO AN ALIEN
WORLD RANGING FROM MUSIC, CLOTHING, MEDICAL SUPPLIES TO VEHICLES
TAKEN AND FOOD AND MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES!
VICTOR:
The following information pertains to the equipment our Team took to
Planet SERPO. All of the military equipment was real,... at least
back then.
LIST OF SUPPLIES TAKEN BY "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" Team
Members [which was later renamed "Project SERPO" once the
seven (7) Team Members returned in 1978 and the report was finalized
in 1980]:
1) MUSIC – The Team Members took the following types of
music:
º Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Ricky Nelson, The Kingston Trio,
Brenda Lee, The Beach Boys, Bob Dylan,
Peter, Paul & Mary, The Beatles, Loretta Lynn, Simon &
Garfunkel, The Hollies, Chubby Checker, Bing Crosby,
Dinah Shore, Vera Lynn, Tommy Dorsey, Ted Lewis, Ethel Merman,
Everly Brothers, Lesley Gore, Marline Dietrich, The Patters, Doris
Day, Connie Francis, Shirelles Lyrics, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin,
Perry Como, Guy Lombardo, Glenn Miller, Rosemary Clooney, Al Jolson;
º Christmas Music, U.S. Patriotic Music;
º Classical Music: Mozart, Hansel, Bach, Schubert, Mendelssohn,
Rossini, Strauss, Beethoven, Brahms, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Vivaldi,
º Indian Chanting Music, Tibetan Chants, African Chants [these last
three (3) for the intended benefit of the Eben hosts].
2) CLOTHING – Each Team Member took the following clothing:
24 pairs of specialized flight suits, 112 pairs of underwear
(pants/shirts), 220 pairs of socks, 18 hats, including jungle style
and regular ball caps, 50 different types of footwear, military
clothing, load bearing belts and harnesses, military backpacks, 30
pairs of civilian casual pants, shorts, sleeveless shirts, 15 pairs
of athletic shoes, 100 pairs of athletic socks, eight (8) athletic
supports, 24 pairs of thermal underwear, 24 pairs of thermal socks,
six (6) pairs of cold weather boots, military-style hot weather
clothing, 60 pairs of gloves, military work-style, 10 containers of
military-style sanitary
gloves, six (6) pairs of cold weather gloves, 10 laundry bags,
disposal surgical gloves, military-style warm weather jackets,
military-style cold weather jackets, civilian-style warm and cold
weather jackets, 10 pairs of warm weather sandals, 24 military
safety helmets, 24 military-style flight helmets, and 1,000 yards of
fabric for the repair and making of clothes.
3) MEDICAL EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the
following medical equipment:
Portable X-ray machine, 100 pre-packed medical kits for advance
trauma care (military-style battle field medical kits), examination
scopes for the stomach, bladder and rectum, eye examination
equipment, 120 pre-packed surgical kits (military style), 120
pre-packed military field medicine kits (containing various
medicines), 30 military-style field
medical sanitation kits, 75 water testing kits (military style), 50
water testing kits (civilian), 75 FAST kits, 1,200 food testing kits
(military style), 500 pieces of miscellaneous surgical tools,
5,000 packages of insect repellant (military style), 250 medical
intravenous kits/with fluids, 16 pre-packed medical testing kits
(military style), 50 pre-packed medical testing kits (civilian),
five (5) military Medical Portable Hospital Tents with base, two (2)
Military Medical Portable Deployment Kits, 18 Military Medical Blood
testing kits, three (3) portable military chemistry testing
stations, two (2) Advanced
Biological Testing Kits (civilian version), 15 Military Radiation
Treatment Kits, and 1,000 pounds of miscellaneous medical equipment.
4) TESTING EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the
following testing equipment:
100 pieces of geological testing items, 2 military soil testing
stations, two (2) chemistry testing stations (civilian), six (6)
radiation testing meters, two (2) military radiation testing
stations, two (2) biological testing stations (civilian), two (2)
100cc tractors, four (4) 100cc digging tool tractors, 10 pre-packed
military Soil Testing Kits, 16 astronomical telescopes, two (2)
Military Star Stations, for (4) military power generators
(1-10,000 watts), four (4) civilian power generators, experimental
solar collecting equipment (military), 50 portable two-way radios
with FM frequencies, six (6) military combat radio platform kits, 50
pre-packed military radio repair kits, 1,000 different frequency
tubes, 30 pre-packed military electrical testing and repair kits,
three (3) solar testing stations (military), one (1)
experimental solar testing station, 10 solar collection panels with
collector containers, 10 air sample collection kits (military), five
(5) air sample collection kits (civilian), six (6) diamond drills;
10 military special access kits, 1,000 pounds of C-4 explosives with
500 blasting caps, detonating cord, time fuse, Military shape
charges and one (1) NUCLEAR DETONATING KIT.
5) MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT and ITEMS – The Team Members took
the following miscellaneous equipment/items:
100 military blankets, 100 military sheets, 24 pre-packed military
combat deployment kits, 80 pre-packed military combat tent kits,
four (4) military mobile kitchen deployable kits, six (6) military
survival stations-warm weather, six (6) military survival
stations-cold weather, 2 military weather stations-combat style, 50
military weather balloons, 24 military handguns, 24 military rifles
(M-16s), six (6) M-66 weapons, two (2) M-40 grenade launchers, two
(2) military 60mm motor tube (30 rounds), 100 military air burst
flares, 5,000 rounds of .223 ammunition [M-16 assault rifles], 500
rounds of .45 ammunition, 60 M-40 rounds, 15 Freon dispersal
containers, 15 compressed air dispersal containers, 20 tanks of
oxygen gas, 20 tanks of nitrogen gas, 20 tanks of miscellaneous
gases for cutting equipment and testing, 75 military-style sleeping
bags, 60 military-style pillows, 55 military-style sleeping
platforms, six (6) pre-packed military deployment combat field
living platforms, 250 different style padlocks, 6,000 feet of
different types of rope, 24 repelling kits, 10 seismic deep hole
drills, 1,000 gallons of fuel, four (4) military-style
phonographs, 10 Military cassette players, 10 reel-to-reel tape
players, 60 belts, 10 military sound collection equipment kits, 25
military Intelligence Collection Kits, 1,000 other miscellaneous
items.
6) VEHICLES – The Team Members took the following vehicles:
10 military-style combat motorcycles, three (3) military M-151
Jeeps, three (3) military trailers, 10 Military repair kits
for jeeps, 10 Military repair kits for the motorcycles, one (1)
Military lawn mower, 1,500 gallons of fuel for all of the above
items.
7) FOOD – The Team Members took the following food items:
C-Rations, 25 pre-packed containers, 100 pre-packed containers of
freeze-dried food items, 100 cases of various canned food items,
seven (7) years worth of vitamins, 100 containers of energy
bars/snack items, 1,000 gallons of water, 150 military survival food
kits, 16 boxes of various alcoholic wines, 150 cases of drinking
fluids, chewing gum, lifesaver candy and various other miscellaneous
food items.
8) MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS – The Team Members took 2,000 pounds
of various other items.
More to come....
– ANONYMOUS
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http://www.serpo.org/
http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_darkened.gif
http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_original.gif
– – – SERPONAUTS! – – –
SPECIAL "Project SERPO" ANNOUNCEMENT: ANONYMOUS SPEAKS TO
THE WORLD UFO COMMUNITY! / CLARIFIES THE MYSTERIOUS 'EBEN OBJECT' OF
POSTING #15 ON THE SERPO.org WEB SITE! / READ CAREFULLY,... PAY
ATTENTION EVERYONE!
MODERATOR's NOTE: Of all the POSTINGS, perhaps none has been more
hotly debated, contested, argued and dismissed as an outright
"hoax" than that mysterious, unintelligible and
"troublesome" 'Eben Object" which comprises POSTING
#15.
Respected, widely read and influential online forums like
Above Top Secret, who view everything with a hyper critical eye, and
online discussion boards, like those of LuciAnarchy and Laura
Knight, have spent countless hours and postings on what -- if
anything -- those puzzling 'Eben Objects' -- meant.
I e-mailed ANONYMOUS -- the REAL one whom I dealt with from 11-1-05
– 12-21-05 -- about this matter since it subjected "Project
SERPO" to such widespread ridicule.
Following is his response to my repeated inquiries. Make of it
what you will. I know it WON'T completely quell speculation
and healthy online debate, BUT does provide supplementary background
information and a much-needed explanation that should have been
provided to Bill Ryan in the first place from his
"anonymous" sources; better late than never....
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– – – POSTING 15a ADDENDUM – – –
Subject: EXPLANATION OF ALIEN DRAWINGS aka 'EBEN OBJECTS'
VICTOR:
Here is the explanation of the Alien Drawing or 'Eben Objects' as
referred to on the www.serpo.org/ Web site posted by Bill [Ryan].
A great deal of planning went into the 10-year mission to SERPO
[turned into 13 years]. Several teams of officials planned
what equipment to take. These officials tried to imagine every
conceivable situation where certain types of tools and other
equipment might be needed.
One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and
landscapes on Planet SERPO. The Mission Team took cameras, 16
(sixteen) different types of cameras and drawing/drafting equipment.
Although no Team Member was trained in
drafting, three (3) Team Members had drawing experience from their
college days. Several different types of drafting templates
were taken on the trip. The planning officials tried to
envision every type of situation where a template might be needed.
The drawing ['Eben Object'], made by the Team Commander, depicts the
base of the sundial [used globally by the Ebens on SERPO].
Each object meant a certain time of day to the Ebens. When the
sun was directed -- through the sundial -- onto the object at the
base of the sundial, that meant a specific task [or change of] to
the Ebens.
For example, it might signal a change in work schedules, a time to
rest, a time to eat, a time to celebrate, etc. After a few
years, the Team learned each symbol and learned the meaning of each
symbol.
This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the Team
Commander in 1967. The Team also took many photographs of the
sundial symbols.
I know our detractors and skeptics will
still harbor doubts about our message and incredible mission, but
this will have to suffice for now short of the actual photographs
which the debunkers would still find problems with.
Glad to be in touch with you and I'll be in contact again soon.
– ANONYMOUS
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Part 1: POSTING #12: THE JOURNAL ENTRIES OF THE TEAM
COMMANDER UPON THEIR ARRIVAL ON PLANET SERPO!
Part 2: ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU: THE
COMEDY VERSION OF THE INFAMOUS "ALIEN AUTOPSY" FILM!
WILL IT WIN FOR 'BEST COMEDY' CATEGORY AT NEXT YEAR's 2007
"ACADEMY AWARDS?!"
Part 3: POSITIVE REAFFIRMATION OF THE ALIEN PROPULSION SYSTEM
DESCRIBED BY THE TEAM COMMANDER WITH COMMENTS FROM NASA AND Capt
ROBERT M COLLINS, AUTHOR OF "Exempt from Disclosure."
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– "Project SERPO" POSTING #12 –
http://www.serpo.org/information.html#12
Part 1:
MODERATOR's NOTE: To facilitate readability, ALL grammar, style and
usage errors have been "vacuumed out," from the raw,
UNedited version which my colleague Bill Ryan posted on 1-24-06.
"Project SERPO" TEAM COMMANDER WRITES IN HIS JOURNAL
ENTRY:
I dreamt of Earth. I really had some vivid dreams of Colorado, the
mountains, the snow and my family. It was [as] if I was really
there. I had no worries and never thought of my situation inside the
foreign spaceship. Then I awoke. I was confused and disoriented. I
was in a bowl, well, it looked like a bowl to me. I don't remember
how I got here.
My first thought was of my crew. I pushed open the top of this glass
bowl and it opened. I heard a hissing sound coming from the seams or
seals. I looked around and saw that I was inside a room. Not a room
I [can] remember. But all of us were inside these glass bowls. All
the other crew members were asleep. I climbed out and realized my
legs were really sore.
But I climbed out and went to each glass bowl and checked on the
crew. I found only 11 of us. Somebody is missing. But who? I am so
confused. I'm also very thirsty. I can't find any of those
water bottles. We had some but I can't find any. My eyes are really
having a problem focusing. But I'm writing this in my log, I have to
record everything. I found number.... He is alive. Who is missing? I
have to look at each bowl. This room is large. The ceiling looks
like [a] bed mattress. The
walls of this room are soft.
Not very much in this room except for the bowls and some tubes
running from the bowls to the floor. I see lights flashing on the
bottom of each bowl. There are bright lights on in the ceiling.
Inside the mattress or something. I can't open these bowls. I've
tried everything. I must get some help from the Ebens. I found a
door but it won't open. I can't remember how we opened the other
doors. How long have we been in these bowls? I can't seem to
remember much.
Maybe the traveling in space causes problems with a person's mind.
They told us this during training, but we never had anyone travel
this far in space before. We are the specimens. Maybe I should go
back into the bowl. Maybe I awoke too early. My wristwatch says it
is 1800 hours. But what day, what month, what year? How long have I
been asleep? The floor seems to be soft with wires running in a
criss-cross pattern.
I see some type of television screen in the corner of the room. I
think it might monitor the other bowls. I can't read anything on the
screen because it is in Eben language. I do make out lines, maybe
health monitoring lines on the screen. I hope that means everyone is
breathing and is alive. But we are missing one man. Did I forget
something? Did someone die? I can't remember.
I have some type of rash on my hands. Real burning sensation. Maybe
it is radiation burns from something. But where are the radiation
monitors we had in our packs? Where are our survival packs? I can't
find anything. I am returning to the bowl. I am lying down. I will
stop making entries in this diary [for now].
I am awake again. Ebens are in the room. My bowl is open. Some of my
crew are walking around. The Ebens are helping them. I climbed out
of my bowl. The English-speaking Eben sees me and I asked him if
everyone of my crew was all right. He doesn't understand, "all
right." I point to the crew. I say, "Eleven. Where
is number 12?" Ebe #1 then points to a
bowl that is empty and says, "Earthman is not living." OK,
someone died. But who?
My crew is walking around in a state of confusion. I can't get
anyone's attention. They look like the living dead. What is wrong
with them? I asked Ebe #1, what is wrong with them. Ebe #1 replied,
"Space sick[ness], but will not be sick soon." OK, that
makes sense. I have no idea how long. We are still flying but don't
know how long.
Ebe #1 brings some fluids and something looking like a biscuit.
Fluid tastes like chalk and the biscuit doesn't have any taste. We
all eat it and drink the fluid. Almost instantly we feel better. OK,
get organized. Told 203 to round up all crew.
Found 308 missing. Must be the dead crew member. Ebe #1 came back
and lead me to 308. He was in bowl, something like coffin. 700 and
754 will examine 308. Ebe #1 cautioned us not to take 308 out. Don't
understand the caution. 700 and 754 is here. I try to tell Ebe #1
that these guys are our doctors and must examine 308. Ebe #1 said
no, because of infection. I guess 308 must have had some sort of
infection and it could be contagious. But is 308 dead? Don't know.
We will take Ebe #1's advice. 700 and 754 just looked into the bowl
and said it looks like 308 is dead. Everyone else looks OK.
The fluids and biscuit must have contained some type of energy food.
We can focus our eyes and can actually think. No one can remember
how we got into this room. All our equipment is here. Everyone is
concerned about our status. Ebens are friendly but won't tell us
much. 899 is concerned with being locked into a room.
633 and 661 think we should be keeping busy. I agree. I order
everyone to get their packs and ration belts, inventory everything
inside and see if something is missing. That will occupy the team
for some time. My wristwatch says it is 0400. But what day? Date?
Don't know.
Very strange not being able to gauge time. We have no reference
inside this room or this spaceship. The year clock that we brought
will be unpacked once we can get to the stowed gear. We don't know
where that is.
All crew inventoried packs and ration belts. Everything is accounted
for. 899 wants to arm himself with a handgun. I said "no."
We don't need guns. No Ebens have been hostile towards us. We
got out a compass. It doesn't work. We got out our radios. We will
keep them on our belts. Don't know if they work away from the room.
But we turned them on and they work. We can hear each other. Good,
we have communication.
But we must be careful, the battery life is only about two days. I
suggest everyone start writing down their thoughts. Keep some sort
of a diary, like I am doing. I was ordered to do this and will
continue to do so as long as I can. But I won't keep it by day,
since I can't tell when a day ends.
661 suggests we make up a calendar and a time system as long as we
are here. Good idea, he will do that. The calendar will run on a
seven-day system. We will use our wristwatches to gauge a 24-hour
period and then consider that one day. We will start at 0600, which
is in about 45 minutes.
518 set up the air monitor. Seems we are breathing regular air. The
Team is joking about 518's nomenclature use for regular air. Good
that we have some humor. OK, this is the beginning of day 1, it is
0600 hours. 661 will keep [the] calendar. We should have done this
before. We have no idea how long we have been inside this spaceship,
how long we have been traveling. Didn't we get into the
command station? Maybe I dreamed it. I can't find the first part of
my diary.
Ebe #1 came in. Told us journey almost over. Lead us to hallway. We
got into moving room and moved to another part of ship. Came out
into large room with many items, I can't identify them but they look
like clothing chests or bedroom chests. We are also lead to a large
table with food. Ebe #1 tells us to eat. He said, "Good food,
eat."
Well, we all look at each other. 700 and 754 says let's eat. OK, we
find plates. Seems like ceramic plates real heavy. I chose something
that looks like a stew. I then got a biscuit, same as we ate
earlier. The drinks were in metal containers. Same fluid we drank
earlier. We all ate. Very little taste in the stew. Something like
potatoes, maybe cucumbers, some type of stems. Not really bad. The
biscuits taste the same. Everyone sat and ate. We found something
like apples, but didn't taste like apples. Sweet and soft, I ate
one. Leaves an after taste in my mouth. Team looks happy. Some are
joking about not having any ice cream.
OK, the MVC is in [the] room. First time we saw him. He speaks
through Ebe #1. The language really bothers my ears. The
high-pitched sounds and then the vocal tones sound very strange. Ebe
#1 tells us MVC wants us to prepare for landing. OK, how do we do
that? We must get into [the] bowl room and get in a bowl. No
one wants to do that, but
if we have to, we will do that. We must go into the bowl room and
get in a bowl. No one wants to do that but if we have to we will do
it.
We are led back to moving room and travel back to bowl room. We
climb into the bowl. Some use pot for relief of our bowels and
bladders. Then climb into bowl. The lids close but we are awake.
Just lie there. I fall asleep. The bowl lids have opened. My
wristwatch says 1100. I guess it is still day 1. We climb out.
Ebe #1 is at our side. He tells us. Landing home. OK, I guess we are
there. We gather our gear. 700 reminds us to wear our sunglasses
once we exit. We pack up and walk down a long hallway. Then into
another moving room. We travel for one minute. Then a door opens. We
are in a large room. We see our stowed gear.
Large room, many smaller spaceships stored here. A large door opens.
Bright light. We see the planet for the first time. We walk down the
ramp. Large number of Ebens waiting for us. We see a large Eben,
largest one we have seen yet. He comes forward and starts speaking
to us. Ebe #1 translates a welcome message from the Leader. I guess
this guy is the
leader. About one foot taller than the others. The Leader tells us
we are welcome to [their] planet; he called it something we do not
understand. Ebe #1 isn't doing a good job translating.
But we are led to an open arena. Looks like a parade field. The
ground is dirt. Looking up, I see blue skies. The sky is very clear.
We see two (2) suns. One [is] brighter than the other.
The landscape looks like a desert, Arizona or New Mexico. No
vegetation that we can see. There are rolling hills but nothing but
dirt. This must be the central village or town. We landed in an open
area with large structures like electrical towers.
Something is sitting on top of these towers. On the center of the
village is a large tower. Looks like a concrete structure. Very
large, maybe 300 feet. Looks like a mirror is placed on top of this
tower. All the buildings look like adobe or mud huts. Some are
larger than others. Looking in one direction, can't tell any actual
compass readings, but there is a very large structure. All the Ebens
are dressed in the same clothing, except for some of the Ebens who
were on the spaceship. Now I see others dressed in a dark blue
outfit, different from the others.
Each Eben is wearing some type of box on their belts. All have
belts. Can't see any children, but maybe they are the same size,
too. Our boots leave an imprint in the soil. The brightness is
almost too much for our eyes without sunglasses. Looking around 360
degrees, I see buildings and barren land. Can't see any
vegetation. I wonder where they grow their
food. What a planet! Hard to believe we will have to live
[for] 10 years here!
But a journey of 1000 miles begins with one [small] foot step.
Can't remember who said that but that just came to mind. But
large numbers of Ebens are welcoming us. They seem friendly. Then,
almost shocking us, someone speaks English. We all look around and
see an Eben. This Eben speaks very good English. This Eben, [who] we
call Ebe #2, speaks almost
fluent English, with [the] exception of not really pronouncing
the letter "w."
But Ebe #2 does a good job speaking English. Ebe #2 says we are
welcome to the planet SERPO. OK, that is the name of their planet.
Ebe #2 shows us a device and tells us [that] everyone of us
must wear it. It looks like a small transistor radio. We put it on
our belts. The weather is extremely hot. Asked 633 to take
temperature. 633 says it is 107 degrees. Very warm. We take off top
jacket and leave us with [a] one-piece flight suit. The Ebens looks
at us but seem very friendly.
Some are wearing some type of shawls. I asked Ebe #2 about that, Ebe
#2 says they are females. OK, I see. They all look alike. Really
hard to tell one apart [from another] except for [their] uniform.
Some have different colored uniforms. I asked Ebe #2 about that, Ebe
#2 says [it's a] military uniform. OK, that makes sense. Ebe #2 lead
us to a series of
huts, looking like adobe-style houses. There are four (4).
Behind them is an underground room, or storage area. It is built
into the ground, underground. We have to walk down a ramp. The doors
look like military igloos that store our atomic bombs on Earth. All
our gear taken off the spaceship is stored [in] there. We walked
down into this area. Very large room. Very cool, a lot cooler. We
might have to sleep
here. All our gear is there. Sixteen (16) pallets of gear.
This igloo is made up of something like concrete but not the same
texture. Feels like soft rubber but still hard. The floor is
made of the same stuff. There are lights in the ceiling. Looks like
spot lights. They have electricity. We must inventory all our gear
sometime. We go back to huts. The huts are cooler than outside. But
still very warm. We must get organized. I tell Ebe #2, we will need
to be alone to get organized. Ebe #2, then I realize Ebe #2 is
female, says "OK," we will
be left alone.
I asked for the body of 308. Ebe #2 seems to be confused and doesn't
know about any body. I explained [it] to Ebe #2, held her hands
across her body and bowed her head. It was really an emotional site
because she was almost crying. Ebe #2 told us that the body would be
brought to us, but she must check with her trainer.
The word "trainer" kind of shocked me. Is Ebe #2 in
training and [is] someone teaching her? Or does the word
"trainer" in Eben mean something different [than] in
English? Maybe that means "leader" or
"commander." Don't know. But Ebe #2 left. I told 203
to gather everyone in the lower storage area. We will have a Team
meeting. 633 suggested we start the calendar as of today. It is 1300
on our Day 1 on planet SERPO.
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Part 2:
VICTOR:
Here's a link to a movie that is coming out this year about the
infamous "alien autopsy" footage; the movie is a comedy,
thankfully! Maybe your UFO Thread List would be interested in this.
I am happy to confirm that the title is called "ALIEN
AUTOPSY" and you can see more at the following link:
http://wwws.warnerbros.co.uk/alienautopsy/teaser.html?id=teaser&settings=true
A comedy about the alien autopsy hoax?! That sounds hilarious!
If you'll recall, I am based in the UK and I wanted to ask if you
that if you didn't already know, a comedy film is due to be released
soon based on the alleged alien autopsy in the early '90s, which
should be a laugh!
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Part 3:
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/StudentSites2002/interstellar_travel/negativemass.html
From: IS A U.S. MILITARY SCIENTIST ON THE UFO THREAD LIST TRYING TO
POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
From: POSTING #11 ["Journal Entries"] and the
www.Serpo.org Web site:
Team Commander: "In the center of these containers is a copper
colored coil or something looking like a coil. There is a bright
light being shined from a point above into the center of the coil.
We hear a very dull hum, but no major loud sounds. 661 thinks it is
a NEGATIVE MATTER versus positive matter system."
AND NOW NASA SAYS,... INTERSTELLAR SPACE TRAVEL: THE IDEA OF
NEGATIVE MASS PROPULSION
The idea of negative mass propulsion was created to eliminate the
need for fuel, since fuel limits the feasibility of interstellar
travel so much. Theoretically, it would allow faster than light
travel without violating Einstein's theory of relativity.
The way this works is it uses gravity to bend space around the
spaceship. A large amount of "negative mass" would be in
front of the ship and a large amount of positive mass would be
behind it, and the masses would curve space in such a way that it'd
accelerate the ship.
Apparently, such a process would not violate the conservation of
energy, as the space it is traveling through would be warped. If
this theory were to work, it could be the best form of
transportation available.
It has been suggested that it would allow a ship to bypass the
limitations of relativity, and a ship could actually travel to and
from it's destination at speeds far faster than the speed of light
without running into the problem of taking several years to do so.
Unfortunately, we don't even know if negative matter exists, and
even if we did discover it, we'd have to develop a way to turn the
effect of the matter on and off, so the speed of the ship could be
controlled.
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/html/warp/ideachev.htm
http://www.dark-planet.com/ortemus/eweasel.htm
DARK ENERGY ENIGMA: NEGATIVE PRESSURE & ANTIGRAVITY
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/mg18925364.100-dark-energy-enigma-just-wont-go-away.html
COMMENT FROM CAPT ROBERT M COLLINS, Ret USAF:
When talking with Gene Loscowski, he agreed with the LANL source
that it's a "Negative Force Generating System" since he
heard that term used while at Area 51, not anti-gravity, but in
reality, it's the same thing.
The way they create this "Negative Force," according to
the LANL source, is through a series of specially configured
super-conducting "capacitors" and "field coils."
They tell us they still haven't figured it out yet.
All the technical details from the LANL source are in the EfD
["Exempt from Disclosure"] book which even Dr Harold
Puthoff says he doesn't understand, which is understandable, since
the LANL sources don't really understand it themselves.
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http://67.175.66.68/serpo/release1.asp
|
A MUST READ! – – –
– UFO PUBLIC ACCLIMATION PROGRAM GOES INTO HIGH GEAR! –
EDITOR's NOTE: "Anonymous" has just come out with yet
another brand NEW
posting which addresses the MANY REASONABLE questions that many on this
list had on the alien homeworld of SERPO that 12 Americans were sent to
which consisted of 10 (ten) men and two (2) women.
I ask you to keep an OPEN MIND on his startling, new revelations where
-- the main thrust of his message is that -- the "laws" of
physics on
Earth do NOT universally apply throughout the cosmos.
Think OUTside of the box people!
NEW READERS: Only the most recent and second to the most recent postings
will be displayed here + the ORIGINAL posting by "Anonymous"
which lays
the groundwork for all his future transmissions. To view postings
#2 #3
#4 #5 and #6, go to:
www.serpo.org/
or contact Web site Administrator Bill Ryan at:
Bill.Ryan@virgin.net
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Posting #8: HOW THE IDEA FOR A ET-HUMAN EXCHANGE PROGRAM CAME ABOUT /
WHERE AND WHEN THE ALIENS FIRST OFFICIALLY LANDED IN THE U.S. / WHERE
AND WHEN OUR HEROIC 12 TEAM MEMBERS DEPARTED FOR PLANET SERPO FOR AN
INCREDIBLE 13 YEARS!
Posting #7: THE UNUSUAL GEOLOGIC FEATURES OF PLANET SERPO DESCRIBED IN
VIVID DETAIL AS WELL AS THE NEAR LIFE-OR-DEATH ENCOUNTERS OUR TEAM
MEMBERS HAD WITH 2 VICIOUS SERPO ANIMALS IN WHICH ONE WAS KILLED AND
PRONOUNCED "DOA!"
Posting #1 – THE ORIGINAL POSTING BY "ANONYMOUS" WHICH WHCH
THE
DISCLOSURE PROCESS INTO OVERDRIVE,... A TRUE CLASSIC!
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POSTING #8
[ ] = Moderator's comments/insertions
EBE = Extraterrestrial Biological Entity: NO!
ETE: Extraterrestrial Entity: YES!
[ Official terminology used by the U. S. Government ]
HOW IT ALL BEGAN: WHO FIRST PROPOSED AN 'ET-HUMAN' EXCHANGE PROGRAM /WHEN AND WHERE THE ETE's FIRST OFFICIALLY LANDED TO A U.S. WELCOMING
COMMITTEE / HOW THE JFK ASSASSINATION ALMOST NIXED THE EXCHANGE PROGRAM!
/ WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE 'TEAM MEMBERS' AND
HOW 2 "OFFICIAL" SETS OF RECORDS WERE KEPT ON THEM!
VICTOR:
I decided to concentrate this release on the "TEAM" and their
selection
process, communication problems and THE FINAL EXCHANGE. There have been
many questions pertaining to these issues.
BACKGROUND: Ebe #1 provided a communication device that allowed us to
contact SERPO. This communication device was onboard the Eben craft that
crashed in July 1947 near Corona, New Mexico. Ebe #1 showed us the
proper use of this communication device prior to his death.
However, the device did not function properly and no contact could be
made with SERPO. Just prior to Ebe #1's death, an American
scientist
from Los Alamos figured out the device worked and connected an energy
source found in the Eben craft to the communication device. With Ebe#1's
assistance and language input, several signals were sent during the
summer of 1952. In early fall of 1952, we received several signals on
the device.
Ebe #1 translated the messages and provided us with that information.
Ebe #1 sent six (6) messages.
– The first message was just letting his planet know he was alive;
– The second message explained the crash in 1947 and the death of his
crew;
– The third message asked for a rescue craft for him;
– The fourth message suggested a formal meeting with leaders of Earth;
– The fifth message suggested AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM;
(NOTE: It is believed, but NOT documented, that Ebe #1's U.S. military
caretaker had suggested to Ebe #1 that an exchange program be set up
which would allow our people to visit and exchange culture, scientific
information and collect astronomical during a space trip by an American
military team or what eventually became known as The Team Members.)
– The sixth message provided landing coordinates for any future rescue
or visitation mission to Earth. The incoming messages gave a time and
date (Eben date and time system), and confirmed a landing location.
However, once the message was translated by Ebe #1, it was determined
the date was over 10 years away. Fearing that Ebe #1, who was sick at
this point, did not translate the message correctly, our scientists
began to translate the message, based on the Eben language that was
taught to us by Ebe #1.
(NOTE: Ebe #1 was a mechanic, NOT a scientist. He was still able to
teach us some of the Eben language. According to the document which I
read, we translated about 30% of the Eben language. Complex
sentences
and numbers could NOT be recognized.)
Ebe #1 assisted us as long as he was alive. But once he died, then we
were on our own. We sent several messages over a six-month period
(1953). But we did not receive any return messages. We fine tuned our
efforts over the next 18 months and finally sent two (2) messages in
1955 and received a reply.
We were able to translate about 30% of the messages. We turned to
several linguist specialists from several U.S. universities and
even
several from foreign universities. Finally, we were able to translate
most of the messages. We decided to reply in English and see if the
Eben's could translate our language easier than we could theirs.
Approximately four (4) months later, we received a reply in broken
English. Sentences that contained nouns, adjectives, but no verbs. It
took us several months to translate the messages. We then sent Eben our
typed English lessons. Six months later, we received another English
message. This time it was clearer, but not clear enough. Ebens were
confusing several different English words and still failed to complete a
proper sentence.
But we were able to provide the basic skill level for them to
communicate in English. In one message, they provided us with a form of
the Eben alphabet, with the equivalent English letter. Our linguist
specialist had a very difficult time figuring this out. The written Eben
language was simple characters and symbols, but our linguist specialist
had an extremely difficult time comparing the two written languages.
Over the next five (5) years, we were able to perfect our understanding
of the Eben language (somewhat) and the Ebens were able to better
understand English. However, we had a major problem. Trying to
coordinate a date, time and location for an Eben landing on Earth.
Even though we could basically understand some Eben and the Ebens could
understand some English, we could NOT understand their time and date
system and they could not understand ours. We sent them our Earth's
rotation schedule, revolution, date system, etc. For some reason, the
Eben's never understood this.
In return, the Ebens sent us their system, which WAS DIFFICULT FOR OUR
SCIENTISTS TO UNDERSTAND because we had no reference to their
planet.
The Ebens did not explain any astronomical data of SERPO or their
system. We then decided to just send pictures showing the Earth,
landmarks and a simple numbering system for time periods.
The Ebens sent back a message indicating they would return to Earth on a
particular number date and location that we chose. The date was April
24, 1964 and the location was in the southern sector of White Sands
Missile Range, New Mexico.
Now, our Government officials met in secret to plan the event. Decisions
were made, then changed and then changed again. We had just about 25
months to plan for the event. Special teams, mostly military, were
formed to plan the event.
Several months into the planning process, PRESIDENT KENNEDY DECIDED TO
APPROVE A PLAN TO EXCHANGE A SPECIAL MILITARY TEAM. The USAF was tasked
as the lead agency. The USAF officials picked special civilian
scientists to assist in planning and crew selection.
The Team Member selection process was the hardest to accomplish. Several
plans were suggested in the make-up of the team. It took several months
for the planners to decide on criteria for each Team Member. They
decided that each Team Member must be military. They must be single,
with no children. They must be career military (over four years of
service). They must have special skills.
They must have cross-trained skills, meaning that they must have more
than one (1) speciality. They must be entirely "sheep dipped"
and
cleared of any identification problems that would haunt them while on
the trip. One suggestion was to list all members as being dead.
This was thrown around until it was decided each Team Member selected
would be listed as "missing" on the official records and
discharged on
the UNofficial records. That way, all connections between the team and
their individual service was covered.
EVERY SINGLE RECORD on each Team Member selected WAS PURGED,
including
their Social Security records, Internal Revenue tax returns, medical
records, military records, and any other identification records were
either destroyed or collected and placed in a special storage location.
Originally, about 56,000 files were screened for possible selectees. The
screening process finally got down to 12. These were the best of the
best. During training, which lasted roughly six (6) months, there were
16 going through training. The four (4) were replacements just in case
one of the originals was injured or released for some other reason.
TEAM TRAINING: Each Team Member selected was sent to a special
facility
located at Camp Perry, Virginia. This was an intelligence training
location. We took over a complete complex inside Perry. Most of the
training took place there, but some special training was accomplished at
Sheppard Air Force Base, Wichita Falls Texas; Ellsworth AFB, South
Dakota; Dow AFB, Maine; and isolated locations in Mexico and Chile.
The training lasted for 167 days. The Team was allowed about 15 days off
during this time period, but they were closely guarded. Just prior to
their trip, each team member was transported to the United States
Disciplinary Barracks, Ft. Leavenworth, KS and confined in locked cells.
This prevented them from communicating with anyone from the outside
world and kept each under close watch.
CHANGE OF PLANS: We received a message from the Ebens stating that
they
did not wish to make the exchange during their initial visit to Earth.
They wanted to meet first and then plan the exchange in person. This
created many problems since our Team was ready for the exchange. We sent
a return message, but we did not receive a reply.
THE LANDING: In December 1963, the Eben's sent a message confirming the
time, date and location of their landing. The message stated that two
(2) crafts were enroute to Earth and would make the appropriate landing
at the pre-arranged location.
(NOTE: During this time period, our government was suffering from the
loss of President Kennedy. Some on the project wanted to cancel the
exchange because of his death. But President Johnson was briefed and
decided to continue the event, although, it was noted, that Johnson
didn't really believe it would happen.)
Our Team planned for two (2) locations. One "cover" location
on Holloman
Air Force Base near Alamogordo, New Mexico and the other, which would be
THE ACTUAL LANDING LOCATION, was west of Holloman near the southern
entrance to White Sands Army Post.
The first Eben craft entered our atmosphere during the afternoon of
April 24, 1964. the Eben craft LANDED AT THE WRONG LOCATION, near
Socorro, New Mexico. Our team was in place at White Sands. We were able
to communicate a message to the Eben craft that they landed at the wrong
location. The second Eben craft picked up the message and landed at the
correct location.
MEETING: The Eben craft landed exactly at the location we sent. There
were 16 senior U.S. Government officials on the ground. Some
were
political and some were senior officials, including military officers.
The Ebens exited their craft and walked under a pre-located canopy. The
Ebens gave gifts of their technology. The Ebens had a crude translator
device. It appeared to be some sort of microphone with a read-out
screen.
The senior U.S. official was given one of the devices and the Eben kept
the other one. The officials spoke into the device and the screen showed
a printed form of the voice message, both in Eben and English. It was
crude and hard to understand everything that was said. The EXACT
TRANSCRIPT of the meeting WON'T BE DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME.
The Ebens decided to make the exchange, but not until the following
year. July 1965 was set and the location decided upon was the Nevada
Test Site. Planners did not wish to keep the same location for fear that
something might leak.
The Team Members were kept at Ft. Leavenworth until May 1964. They were
transported to Camp Perry. The Team was isolated for the next six (6)
months, going over the same training they received. Fine tuning their
individual skills and learning some newer skills. This gave the team an
opportunity to better understand the Eben language. Although most team
members had difficulty learning the language, the two linguists on the
team were able to hone their language skills.
In April 1965, the team was transported to Ft. Leavenworth and confined
until July 1965, when they were transported to Nevada. During the
exchange, ONLY A SELECTED FEW OFFICIALS WERE PRESENT, other than the
preparation crew for the exchange team. The Eben craft landed and our
Team was placed on board.
(NOTE: One item that was MISstated by me in an earlier e-mail, was the
amount of equipment that was taken to Planet SERPO by our Team Members.
The correct amount loaded on board the Eben crafts was 90,500 lbs of
equipment.)
More to come.....
– ANONYMOUS
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POSTING #7
THE WEIRD AND UNUSUAL GEOLOGIC FEATURES OF PLANET SERPO ARE DESCRIBED IN
VIVID DETAIL AS WELL AS A HARROWING ENCOUNTER WITH A VICIOUS SERPO
ANIMAL IN QUADRANT 3 FOLLOWED BY A LIFE-OR-DEATH ENCOUNTER WITH A HUGE
SNAKE-LIKE CREATURE IN QUADRANT 4 THAT WILL GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES FOR DAYS
TO COME!
Here are some geological facts regarding SERPO our Team Members
compiled:
The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.
The surface gravity was 9.60m/s>2.
The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.
Our Team contained two (2) geologists (they were also cross-trained as
biologists). The first thing our geologists did was map the entire
planet. The first step was to divide the planet in half, thus creating
an Equator. Then they established a Northern Hemisphere and Southern
Hemisphere. Within each hemisphere, they created four (4) quadrants.
Finally, they established the "North and South" Poles. This
was the
easiest method to study the planet. Most of the Eben communities were
placed along the Equator. However, there were some communities
established north of the equator in each of the four quadrants in the
Northern Hemispheres. There were no communities located in either poles.
The southern pole was desert. It was barren land with virtually no
precipitation where absolutely nothing grew in this area.
There were volcanic rock formations and part of the extreme south
contained a rock desert. Temperatures in the south pole were measured at
between 90° and 135°F. Going further north from the south pole
in
Quadrant 1, the Team found extrusive rocks. This indicated some volcanic
activity in the area. Our team found numerous volcanoes in this area.
The Team found several fissure eruptions in this region, with standing
water. The water was tested and contained high levels of sulfur, zinc,
copper and other unknown chemicals. Moving from east to Quadrant 2, the
Team found basically the same volcanic fields of rocks.
However, in one particular location near the north end of Quadrant 2,
the Team found an Alkali Flat. On Earth, these were formed by streams
flowing into a desert or arid location. Our team found hard mud covered
by alkaline salts. Some vegetation was growing in this area.
Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid region
that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The gullies or
valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.
The team found the first SERPO animal in this region. It looked like an
armadillo. This creature was extremely hostile and tried to attack the
Team several times. The Eben guide used some type of sound device
(sonic-directed sound beam) to scare away the creature.
Moving to the Equatorial region, our team found desert-style landscapes
which contained patches of vegetation. The team found numerous pockets
of water fed to the ground by Artesian Wells. This water was the
freshest, containing only the unknown chemicals. It tasted good and the
Ebens drank and used it. Our team still boiled it because during culture
tests, unknown types of bacteria were detected.
Moving to the Northern Hemisphere, the Team found a major change in
climate and landscape. One Team Member, who had coined it Quadrant 1, in
the northern hemisphere, named it "Little Montana." The Team
found
trees, similar to the Evergreen style of Earth trees. These trees were
milked by the Ebens. A white fluid was extracted and drank.
Numerous other types of vegetation was found in this region. Standing
water, possibly fed by either Artesian Wells or fissure eruptions was
found. In one area, marsh lands were seen. Large plants were observed
growing in the marshy area. The Ebens used these plants for food. The
bulb of the plant was very large. The bulb tasted something like a
mellon.
Our Team eventually moved to an area in Quadrant 1 in the northern
hemisphere. This area contained moderate temperatures [50° - 80°]
and ample amounts of shade. The Eben's built a little community for the
team. Most of the remaining exploration of the planet was done from this
point. The Team only explored the southern hemisphere once, obtaining
geological information.
Because of the intense heat, the Team decided not to venture back. The
Team continued to explore the northern hemisphere, where, as the Team
traveled towards the north pole, the temperature cooled considerably.
The Team found mountains, raising to an elevation of 15,000 feet and
valleys that sank below the basic mark the team established for
"sea
level." Lush green fields were found containing a form of
grass, but
contained bulbs. The team coined these fields, "Clover
Fields," even
though the bulbs were not clover.
The radiation levels were lower in the northern hemisphere than at the
Equator and southern hemisphere. The north pole contained cold weather
and the team saw the first sign of snow. Blankets of snow littered the
landscape around the north pole. The snow measured about 20 feet, at its
deepest.
The temperature was a constant 33°. Our Team never found the
temperature to vary in this region. The Ebens could not stand to be in
this region for long. They suffered extreme hypothermia. The Team's
guide wore a suit, similar to a space suit with built-in heaters.
Our Team found evidence of past earthquakes. Fault lines were found
along the northern tip of the southern hemisphere. Exfoliation was
observed along with extrusive rocks, which indicated magma flows in the
past.
Our Team BROUGHT BACK HUNDREDS OF SAMPLES of SERPO soil, vegetation,
water and other items for testing on Earth. During our Team's
exploration, they discovered numerous types of animals. The strangest
was the "Beast" which looked like a large Ox. The animal was
timid and
never seen to be hostile.
Another animal looked like a Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the
neck. This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the
Ebens.
During the exploration of Quadrant 4 of the southern hemisphere, the
team found a very long and large creature that appeared to be a snake.
This creature was "deadly," as explained by the Ebens. The
head of the
creature was large and contained almost human-like eyes. This was the
only time our Team used their weapons and killed the creature.
The Ebens didn't appear to be upset that the Team killed the creature,
but was upset they used a weapon. The team brought four .45 caliber Colt
(standard military issued) handguns and four M2 carbine rifles. After
killing the creature, the team disected it. The internal organs were
strange and nothing similar to a Earth-style snake. The creature
measured 15 feet long and 1.5 feet in diameter. The team was curious
about the eyes.
Examination of the eyes revealed cones, similar to human eyes. The eye
contained an iris and the back contained a large nerve, similar to the
optic nerve feeding into the creature's brain. The brain was large, much
larger than any Earth-based snake. The Team wanted to eat the meat from
the creature, but the Eben guides politely told them "No."
The bodies of water on SERPO did NOT contain fish, as we know. Some
bodies, near the equator, did contain strange-looking creatures, similar
to eels (small and about 8 – 10" long) and was probably a cousin
of
the land-based "Snake."
There was something like a jungle, near the marshlands, but not the
jungles that we're familiar with. SERPO didn't have seasons as we know
them (extreme heat then freezing cold). However, the temperature varied.
Regarding weapons taken: There was a lengthy discussion about weapons.
At the end, the Ebens didn't really care. So our Team Members decided to
take some just in case. Not for a fight, God knows, as our Team was
vastly outnumbered, but for the safety aspects of it.
Remember, the 12 were all military members, so weapons made them FEEL
safe. A side note: They only took 50 rounds of ammunication per handgun
and 100 rounds of ammunition per rifle.
– ANONYMOUS
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POSTING #1
INITIAL E-MAIL BY "ANONYMOUS"
VICTOR:
First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.
As for Roswell, it occurred, but NOT like the story books tell. There
were two (2) crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the
second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.
The crash involved two (2) extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site
was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the
crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived
the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE]
was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined
food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.
The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was
examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los
Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that
allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to
Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.
The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers.
They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron
County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff
several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the
sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.
Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery
team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six (6) bodies.
The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los
Alamos.
The live entity established
communications with us and provided us with a location of his home
planet. The entity remained alive until 1952, when he died. But before
his death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found
inside the two crafts. One item was a
communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his
planet.
Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for
April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved
the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged.
Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.
In 1965, we had AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WITH THE ALIENS. We carefully
selected 12 military personnel; ten (10) men and two (2) women. They
were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The
12 were skilled in various specialties.
Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and
the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan
was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.
But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were
returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven (7) men and one (1) woman
returned. Two (2) died on the alien's home planet. Four (4) others
DECIDED TO REMAIN, according to the returnees. Of the eight (8) that
returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.
The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military
installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was
responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also CONDUCTED
DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WITH THE RETURNEES.
I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.
I've monitored your e-mails for about six (6) months. I've read e-mails
from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the
real Roswell incident or the exchange program.
I'd like to hear what others say about this.
– ANONYMOUS
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The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO,"
Final
Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword.
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‘Project
SERPO’ mission to visitors’ home planet described in detail
By
Steve Hammons
December
16, 2005
Reports
and rumors have been floating around for decades that contact between
the U.S. Government and beings from another planet, or other planets,
has been established.
These
stories include information about government acquisition of advanced
technologies, greater scientific knowledge and other important assets.
Some people claim that top secret organizations and agencies were
created to coordinate these sensitive operations.
Now,
reports have surfaced about an alleged U.S. Government military effort
called “Project SERPO.” This program allegedly selected and trained
a joint-service military team to accompany friendly “visitors” from
another planet back to their home for a planned ten-year stay,
conducting a wide range of scientific research.
On
the newly-developed Web site serpo.org, this alleged project is
explained and the Web site itself is described as “the gradual release
of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of
twelve
U.S.
military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli, between the
years 1965-78.”
Movies,
books, TV programs and other media platforms have been used to comment
on UFOs and these kinds of ideas over the years. Some of us may think
these concepts are based on actual facts. Some may feel that think these
ideas might possibly be based on realities. Some of us seem to think
they are probably not at all accurate and are simply creative
storytelling and wishful thinking.
According
to Bill Ryan, a UFO researcher and coordinator of the serpo.org Web
site, early last month, an interesting source came to his attention and
to the attention of his associates. Ryan says “a retired senior
official” within the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), who
requested to not be named at this time, stated that he represented a
group of six current and former DIA officials. These sources began
providing information to Ryan and his colleagues on November 2 and have
continued through December.
Ryan
states on the Web site that he considers the possibilities that the
information presented is not true, is partially true, is completely true
or some combination of these. He explains that other “insiders” have
previously reported on a project such as this and seem to believe that
the information is possibly accurate.
In
fact, he mentions a discussion he learned about between an active duty
Air Force lieutenant colonel and a retired Air Force intelligence
colonel. The younger man had been following the alleged Project SERPO
information being released and wanted to bounce it off the senior
officer. In person, he provided the retired colonel with the written
material.
”After
he was finished, he stated, ‘Oh my God, who on this Earth would
release such classified material?’ I then asked him if all this
information was real. His simple answer was, ‘yes, all real.’ I then
asked the colonel if he had been involved with this project. He said,
yes, he was involved in the communications aspect of this operation from
about 1961 until 1965. He was also on the debriefing team. He wouldn't
provide too much information, saying that unless he saw that all
information was declassified, he could not comment on details. I thanked
him and left.”
FIRST
REPORT FROM 'ANONYMOUS'
“First
let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a retired
employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about
my past, but I was involved in a special program.”
Thus
apparently began the recounting of a very interesting series of reports
on alleged events involving visitors from another planet and their
contact with the United States Government.
“Anonymous”
stated that there were two crash sites in
New Mexico
near
Roswell
. One crash was near
Corona
and the other near Datil. The first was discovered in 1947 and the
second not until 1949. A crash survivor was found near the
Corona
crash. Other occupants apparently did not survive. However, their bodies
were recovered, he says. The craft were eventually taken to Wright Field
in
Dayton
,
Ohio
(now Wright-Patterson Air Force Base).
The
surviving “visitor” was housed on U.S. Government facilities and
lived until 1952, Anonymous states. Using communication equipment from
the craft, the visitor was able to, and allowed to, make contact with
his home planet.
Anonymous
claims that by 1962, an “exchange program” was developed between the
U.S.
and the visitors. A twelve-person, joint-service military team of ten
men and two women were selected from a large pool of candidates. Special
training programs were developed for them. (Of interest, U.S. Army
Special Forces teams typically consist of twelve men. This has been
found to be an optimal team size in some ways for certain operations.)
Then,
in July 1965, at the Nevada Test Site, the visitors landed, the twelve
Americans boarded the spacecraft and departed for a planned ten-year
stay with the visitors.
The
Americans returned in 1978. That is, eight returned alive along with the
bodies of two who died on the visitors’ planet, according to
Anonymous. Two others chose to remain there. All of those who returned
alive have since passed on, he says.
TEAM
SELECTION AND TRAINING
Anonymous
states that there was a rigorous selection and training process for the
team members. Their military backgrounds, psychological profiles and
other aspects of fitness for the mission were taken into consideration.
He states that over 56,000 people were initially considered, and this
was whittled down to the final twelve, with some back-ups if needed.
He
says they went through many months of training that included various
scientific disciplines, military skills and other needed preparedness.
The training took place at several military installations and sites
inside and outside of the
U.S.
The
team was “sheep-dipped,” intelligence community lingo for bringing
them into a clandestine, covert, “black” operating modality. And, in
this case, attempting to coordinate explanations for a ten-year absence
from family, friends and associates.
Anonymous
claims 90,500 pounds of equipment, food and supplies were taken with
them when they departed with the visitors onboard one of their larger
spacecraft. The trip took nine months to reach the planet Serpo.
AMERICANS
ON SERPO
Anonymous
says detailed reports from our team reveal a huge amount of information
about the visitors and their home planet. He states the planet lies
within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System, two yellow
double stars, similar to our Sun. The atmosphere was similar to
Earth’s, he says.
The
team took several months to adjust. There was strong radiation on the
planet and the temperature was hot – between 94 and 115 degrees.
However, in the planet’s northern hemisphere, the temperature ranged
from about 55 to 80 degrees. The climate was generally quite dry.
The
U.S.
team studied the “Eben” society and lived among them. They learned
that the Eben civilization was approximately 10,000 years old and had
evolved on another planet.
In
many ways, the Eben culture was similar to our own, with leaders,
communities, family life of male and female couples with children,
occupations, music, games and worship of a Supreme Being. Anonymous
states they had advanced and effective technologies, though the American
team did not understand all of it.
The
Ebens were friendly and caring toward the Americans. Communication
between the human team members and Ebens was often difficult, though
both groups learned some of the others’ language. Some individuals of
both groups were better at it than others, Anonymous states. Hand signs
were also used as well as translation devices that had limited
capabilities.
When
the two Americans died on Serpo, the Ebens offered medical services and
demonstrated sadness. Ebens attended the burial ceremonies that the
humans held.
The
U.S.
team explored the planet as much as possible, examined the animal and
plant life as well as the climate, geology, geography, physics and other
areas of interest.
HOW
MUCH TRUTH?
If
the information revealed by Anonymous and his associates has truth to
it, this would seem to be signal that responsible people now feel that
further disclosure about such matters is appropriate at this time.
Some
UFO researchers have indicated that a plan of gradual release of
information about these issues, within the
U.S.
and internationally, has been ongoing for decades using various public
media platforms of open source intelligence (OSINT).
The
purpose of a gradual disclosure of some information about this area has
allegedly been to carefully analyze various risk factors and maintain
proper security of sensitive intelligence.
At
the same time, some investigators have said that there is a range of
opinion among experts and insiders on these kinds of projects about what
kind and how much information, if any at all, should be disclosed to the
general public. However, the gradual preparation of human society about
these alleged discoveries seems to have proceeded, according to some
researchers.
In
light of the Project SERPO story, some people are taking a second look
at Steven Spielberg’s movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.”
In that film, a coordinated meeting took place with extraterrestrial
visitors. Then, a twelve-person team, ten men and two women, went with
the visitors. Spielberg reportedly had advisors and consultants on the
film who provided him with insight on these subjects.
Anonymous
says he and his team are planning to release more information about
Project SERPO. Many in the
U.S.
and around the world will surely continue to analyze these reports
carefully and try to determine if they are accurate, a psychological
operation (PSYOP) for some purpose, some kind of deceptive
disinformation or a creative work of fiction.
Maybe
we’ll find out if Anonymous and his friends are right – that
Americans and humankind are ready for this kind of knowledge.
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– – – A MUST READ! – – –
12-22-05
– UFO PUBLIC ACCLIMATION PROGRAM GOES INTO HIGH GEAR! –
EDITOR's NOTE: "Anonymous" has just come out with yet
another brand NEW posting which addresses the MANY REASONABLE questions
that many on this list had on the alien homeworld of SERPO that 12
Americans were sent to which consisted of 10 (ten) men and two (2)
women.
I ask you to keep an OPEN MIND on his startling, new revelations where
-- the main thrust of his message is that -- the "laws" of
physics on Earth do NOT universally apply throughout the cosmos.
Think OUTside of the box people!
NEW READERS: Only the most recent and second to the most recent postings
will be displayed here + the ORIGINAL posting by "Anonymous"
which lays the groundwork for all his future transmissions. To
view postings #2 #3 #4 #5 #6, #7 and #8, go to:
http://www.serpo.org/
or contact Web site Administrator Bill Ryan at: Bill.Ryan@virgin.net
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Posting #11: 2005 CHRISTMAS SPECIAL! THE WORD-FOR-WORD JOURNAL
ENTRIES OF THE TEAM COMMANDER + THE CODE NAMES AND 3-DIGIT NOS. THE TEAM
MEMBERS REFERRED TO EACH OTHER AS FOR THE NEXT 13 YEARS! THEY NEVER USED
THEIR REAL NAMES! PLUS: THE ALIEN ED DEVICE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL! SPECIAL
BONUS: YOUR VARIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EBENS ADDRESSED IN THIS HOLIDAY
SPECIAL EDITION!
Posting #10: THE SPECIFIC TRAINING/EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS OUR
TEAM MEMBERS HAD TO SUCCESSFULLY PASS / INTRODUCING "NOAH,"
THE EBEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE "EXPERT" WHO ASSISTED OUR TEAM
MEMBERS GREATLY WITH TRANSLATIONS! / "FALCON's" PAST
STATEMENTS ARE ADDRESSED AS WELL AS "THE YELLOW BOOK," THE
FAMOUS 'ALIEN AUTOPSY FILM' AND SO MUCH MORE!
Posting #9: ADDENDUM: ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE GRUELING TRAINING FOR
SERPO AND THE 'SECRET WEAPON' OUR TEAM MEMBERS TOOK WITH THEM!
Posting #1 – THE ORIGINAL POSTING BY "ANONYMOUS" WHICH PUT
THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS INTO OVERDRIVE,... A TRUE CLASSIC!
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POSTING #11
[ ] = Moderator's comments/insertions
EBE = Extraterrestrial Biological Entity: NO!
ETE: Extraterrestrial Entity: YES!
[ Official terminology used by the U. S. Government ]
SERPO spelled backwards = OPRES:
"Office-Of-Primary Responsibility for Extraterrestrial
Security" = Defense Intelligence Agency
MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SERPO! THE JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM THE TEAM COMMANDER,
THE CODE NAMES FOR OUR BRAVE TEAM MEMBERS, THE ZPE-LIKE, ALIEN ENERGY
DEVICE SPECS ARE DETAILED, THE VARIOUS EBEN CATEGORIES AND WHEN THE
EXCHANGE PROGRAM CAME TO AN ABRUPT END / YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM
ANONYMOUS IN THIS YEAR-END HOLIDAY SPECIAL EDITION!
REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS
QUESTION: If our Team Members had their identities "sheep
dipped," how did they refer to one another as?
ANONYMOUS: Each Team Member was NOT identified by name. Once the
final 16 were selected, (remember, we had four {4} alternates), each
Team Member got a number (three digit).
From that point on, they were identified by number ONLY. Even each
Team Member identified the others by their three-digit number. They
were NEVER to use their real names. Once they left planet Earth and
traveled on to SERPO, they gave each other nicknames.
For example, the Team Commander was identified as, "Skipper,"
the medical officers were identified as "Doc-1" and
"Doc-2," the pilots were identified as, "Sky-King" and
"Flash-Gordon." Even though it wouldn't make any
difference if they used their real names on SERPO, they were disciplined
enough to continue either using the nicknames or the three-digit
numbers.
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THE TEAM COMMANDER's JOURNAL ENTRIES,... A MUST READ!
VICTOR: I hope you didn't lose hope and faith in me; I needed to take a
break during the holidays as I'm sure you did! I have been
coordinating this very complex subject matter with various people in the
USG intell community.
Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are feverishly working on the
photographs. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
Attached for your UFO Thread List are just four (4) pages of the Team
Commander's diary. The diary contains a large number of pages, all hand
written. It took me several days to prepare the attached four (4) pages
from the diary.
This is the actual, VERBATIM DIARY of the Team Commander. It was
started the morning of the departure. There were code names for
control personnel and three-digit numbers for each Team Member
[addressed above]. There are other codes and abbreviations for
certain things, which is not explained.
I've typed the EXACT words, phrases and abbreviations. Nothing has
been changed. And likewise, I will ask YOU to NOT alter, change, correct
any of the text here as you often do with mine to make it grammatically
correct (you make me feel like I was an English major like you!)
This includes your use of CAPS to emphasize things I've written; I ask
you to NOT do this with these journal entries, Victor.
DAY 1
We are ready. Hard to think we finally made it. Team is motivated and
calm. Final briefing by MTC and MTB. Cargo packed in EBE craft.
Might have some problems with guns. Will be talking to the MVC. 899 and
203 will have overall charge of weapons. No sync system or we don't know
about them. Everything moving smoothly. 700 and 754 will give each
member final check before boarding.
OK, we loaded everything and it fits. But we have to transfer all of it
to the bigger ship once we get to rendevous point. Really excited about
this. No reservations by anyone. MTC asked all members to make final
decision. The team all said go. We go. Interior of Ebe craft
is big. There are three levels, this is different than the one we
trained on. I think that was a scout craft, this one is a shuttle
craft.
We stored the cargo in lower level. We will sit in the center
level and the crew will sit in the upper level. Strange looking
walls.
They seem to be dimensional. There are three stations, four of us
will sit in each station. No seats just benches. We wouldn't
fit
in those small crew seats.
The MVC says we don't need anything special, no O2 or helmets.
Don't know what to do with them. OK, final checks. MTC gave
us final words. One pray said. We board the Ebe craft.
475 really nervous. 700 will watch him. The hatch is closed.
No windows.
We can't see out. Everyone is seated in their respective seats on
the bench. No retention harnesses. OK, well, bar across us.
The craft is starting engine, or what they call energy thrusters.
Seems like we are moving but nothing happening inside. Still able
to
write this. Really dizzy now. 102 sitting next to me and he is faint.
Something feels really funny. Have to rewrite this because I can't think
straight.
DAY 1 – Entry 2
We made it to the rendevous craft. We don't know where we are,
but it seemed like we all fainted or was really confused during this
trip. According to my wrist watch, it took about six hours.
Or maybe more. We left at 1325 and it is 1939. But not sure
of the day.
We flew into the big ship. We are standing in a bay or something.
There are many EBES helping us. They seem to understand we are
confused. The cargo was off loaded in one big move. The platform
containing the cargo was moved without unloading the individual cargo.
This ship looks like the inside of a real big building. The
ceiling is about 100 feet high in this area of the ship.
OK, we are being moved into another part of the ship. OK, we moved
to another room or area. What a big ship. I just can't describe
how big this is. It took us about 15 minutes to walk to our area.
Seems like it is something special for us. The chairs are bigger.
But
there are only 10 of them. OK, I guess 203 and myself will sit in
different location above these seats.
We are moved by some sort of elevator, but I can't understand how it
worked. Everyone his hungry. We have our backpacks
containing some C-rats and I guess we eat now. But must ask the
MVC. I can't find him and we can't communicate with the two EBEs
here.
They seem to be real nice. 420 will try to use his language
skills. Almost funny. Sounds like a screaming match.
We just used sign language indicating we want to eat. One of the
EBE brought us a container with something it. Doesn't look good
but I think it is
their food. Looks like mush or oatmeal. 899 will taste it.
Well, 899 said it tastes like paper. Think we will all stick to
C-rats.
OK, MVC finally showed up. Told us we will begin trip soon.
Two mils I think he means minutes but don't really know. Maybe it
wasn't such a good idea to eat before leaving. We don't feel any
weightlessness and we don't feel dizzy. But we don't know what to
expect from this point on. They are indicating we must sit in the
chairs.
DAY 2
I'm not sure just how long we were in the containers. We sat in
the chairs and a clear container was placed over us and the chair.
We
were isolated in this bubble or sphere. We could breath OK and
could see out, but we really felt dizzy and confused. I think I
fell asleep or fainted. I think this is another day, but my watch
says one hour since we sat, but I think it is the next day.
Our time instruments are located in our backpacks which are stored in
another area of this room. We are still in these spheres but it seems
OK. Well, 899 figured out how to get out because he is standing
up. He opened my sphere. Not sure if we should be out of
this
thing. 899 said a EBE came in and looked at us and left.
Other team members sleeping. 899 and myself walking around this room.
I retrieved the time instruments. Seems like we have been
traveling about 24 hours or so. No windows to see.
Originally we were told it would take about 270 of our days. OK,
EBE came in and pointed to the chairs, I guess we need to go back and
get into them.
ENTRY
Since I am not sure of which day it is I won't state a day as to my
entry, [so] I'll just say entry. We are all sick. Dizzy,
upset stomachs. 700 and 754 gave us medicine to settle our
stomachs. But we really feel bad. We seem to be unable to
focus our eyes and seem to not know which way way to turn up or down and
don't know the way to sit down. Really bad feeling.
Medicine helps a little we are able to eat a little. 700 and 754 tells
us to eat and drink the water we brought along we are doing that and
feel a little better can't concentrate on anything so I can't rite [sic]
anymore right now.
ENTRY
Feel a lot better. EBES came in and did something to the room.
It all seems clearer and we are not so confused and dizzy. We ate again
and drink more water. Feeling a lot better. We are out of sphere,
but must stay in them at certain times.
EBE showed us a series of lights above the entry panel. Green, Red
and White lights. If the light is red, we must sit in sphere.
If
light is white, we are OK. EBE never explained the Green light.
Maybe that isn't good.
We have no idea what day it is, only that it is 2319. Our date
recorder isn't working very well, according to 633. He thinks we have
been going for 10 days but not really sure. We have been confined
to this room for the entire time. I think this room was made for
us and we are safe in this room.
Maybe it wouldn't be wise to leave it. No weightlessness.
Don't know how they do it. But we do feel a little lightheaded when
we
walk. Seems room is pressurized. Ears are popping a lot. If
we have to sit in this room for 270 days we will really be bored.
We
can't really do much, all our equipment is packed away.
We have our backpacks but they only contain a few items. We
want to clean up, but can't find a bathroom except the containers we are
using to relieve ourselves. They are small metal containers that
are emptied by the EBE every now and then. EBE brings us food, their
food. We tried it and it tastes like paper really no taste but maybe it
is something special for space travel. 700 is eating it. He
seems OK but it is upsetting his bowels. Their water is milky
looking but tastes like apples. Strange.
[Editor's note: "EBE brings us food, their food. We
tried it and it tastes like paper really no taste but maybe it is
something special for space travel.:" EBE food
looks like mushed paper, but they use telepathic 'taste' to flavor it
according to whatever the eater likes. The same 'papery mush' can taste
like any food. Water is H2o - a milky looking water, is another
substance with flavor in it.
EBE's really like J-ello. In fact they sometimes telepath to abductees
to make 'orange J-ello' and then they abduct the orange J-ello' as well
as the people. ]
ENTRY
It has been a long time since I have made an entry. We are
guessing we have been on the ship for 25 days. But we might be off
about five days. We were locked into our sphere for a long period
of time. We had to leave in order to relieve ourselves and finally
were able to open the sphere.
But when we did, we all got sick, really sick. Dizzy, confused and
some couldn't walk. We had trouble urinating and moving our bowels.
700 and 754, who ate the EBE food didn't seem to be as sick as us. They
treated us with medicine. EBE came in and pointed a blueish light
on our heads. We felt better, much better after this.
But pointed to the chairs and we figure we must get back into them. We
showed him our waste containers and pointed to the chairs in a confused
manner. He understood and then left the room. EBE came back with
small containers we could place inside the sphere.
He also brought in small jugs of the milky liquid and made a motion for
us to drink it. So we went back into the sphere and just sat there
with the waste containers and the jug of the milky stuff. We drink
that and seem to be better, except 518, who seem to be sick. But we were
cautioned to stay inside the sphere.
ENTRY
I don't have any idea how long we stayed in that sphere this time.
But EBE came in and made a motion for us to come out. We were able
to move around without being dizzy or sick. EBE even allowed us to
leave the room. We walked along a very narrow hallway for a long
period of time, maybe 20 minutes. We then got into some sort of
elevator, which moved fast because we could feel the motion.
We came out into a very large room that contained many EBENS sitting in
seats. Maybe this is the control center. Our escort made a
motion to go into the room. We could see control panels which
contained many lights. There were four different stations
containing six EBENs each. They were in levels.
The top level inside this room contained just one seat. One EBEN
was seated in that chair. We figure he must be the pilot or
commander. He seemed busy with an instrument panel. There
were many television screens, but they all showed EBEN language and
series of lines, both vertical and horizontal. Maybe some sort of
graph.
We were able to wander around without any EBEN bothering us.
633 and 661 were really interested in this. 633 seemed better.
There was one window. But we could see anything. It was dark but
we could make out wavy lines. Maybe some sort of distortion in
time. We must be moving faster that light speed, but we can't see
anything out the window.
OK, MVC finally arrived. He explains in broken english, that
we are halfway to home planet. Everything is functioning properly and we
all will feel better once the craft gets out of this time wave, as he
calls it. MVC says we can walk around any part of the ship, but we
must stay together.
[Editor's note: EBE's think and speak perfect English. I don't know about every
one of them. But I know the ones I know don't have any problems
with it. That said, they seldom verbally speak English.
They speak in their own tongue which contains a lot of slurs and clicking
sounds... but when they talk English, a lot of the time they use
telepathy instead. It the reptilian guys who have a hard time with talking English.]
We must be shown how to operate the movement centers. We are
thinking he is referring to the elevators. It seems simple, just
placing your hand over one of the operating lights. White and red.
White moves it and red stops it. We hear some type of ringing
sound, but MVC says it is only space sounds. Whatever he means by
that. We were able to walk around the ship, but it is so large it is
difficult to understand how such a large ship can move so fast.
633 wants to see the engines. MVC takes four of us to the
engine room or whatever they wish to call the room. It contains
large, very large metal containers. They are in a circle, with the
ends of each pointing into the center. Many pipes or some type of
large tubes
connects them.
In the center of these containers is a copper colored coil or something
looking like a coil. There is a bright light being shined from a
point above into the center of the coil. We hear a very dull hum,
but no major loud sounds. 661 thinks it is a negative matter
versus
positive matter system.
[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]
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QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy
Device (ED) found at the crash site.
ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x
11" x 1½", weight 26.7 oz. The ED [Energy Device] is
clear and made of something similar to hard plastic.
On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a
chip. It is one of the connector points.
On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is
the second connector point.
Viewed from an electron microscope, the ED contains small
circular-shaped bubbles. Within these bubbles are extremely minute
small particles. When a demand for electric power is applied to the
ED, the particles always move clockwise at a great speed, not
measurable. There is also some type of unidentified fluid located
around the bubbles. When a demand is placed on the ED, this fluid
turns from a clear color to a hazy pink color. The fluid becomes
warm between 102° - 115° F.
However, the little bubbles would not heat up, ONLY the fluid. The
bubbles maintained a constant temperature of 72° F. The
boundary of the ED contains small (micron sized) wires. When a
demand is placed on the ED, the wires expand in size. This
expanding process depended on the amount of demand placed on the ED.
We did extensive, exhaustive experimentation with the ED. We
could power everything from a .5 watt bulb to AN ENTIRE HOUSE!
The ED automatically detects the required demand and then outputs
that exact amount. It worked on everything electrical EXCEPT
equipment that contained a magnetic field. Somehow, our magnetic
field interferes with the output demand of the ED. However, we
have developed a shielding process to correct this.
I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to
national security implications]. This is just the basic information
on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know.
Interestingly, when our recovery team first found the ED, they thought
it was a window because of its clear plastic-like qualities. Ebe
#1 had to show us how it worked. It still took us MANY YEARS to
FULLY UNDERSTAND the ED's operational qualities. I'm SURE we
fully understand everything about it today, BUT that isn't written in
the final [SERPO] report.
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REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:
Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in
July, 1947.
Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second
visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his
stay.
Ebe #3 was a female scientist.
J-ROD was a cloned Eben, created by the Ebens, who came as another type
of visitor. J-ROD is a very complicated matter and the entire
story will NEVER be made public. The exact type of entity J-ROD
was shall remain classified as "Above Top Secret."
Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that THIS SUBJECT
MATTER IS CLOSED and no future questions regarding this topic will be
addressed.
Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have
speculated about that, and officially it means something, but that
information shall remain shielded from the public domain.
President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but
others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled
him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.
It's also important to note that the Eben communication device failed
to work altogether in 1996 and we've not had any contact with them [the
Ebens] nor can we initiate any with them from our end.
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QUESTION: UFO author Whitley Strieber claims to have been contacted by a
man claiming that he was part of a human-alien exchange program in the
'60s. Was Whitley "played" or did he actually meet one of the
Team Members?
ANONYMOUS: The guy who approached Whtiley Strieber in 1989-'90, WAS a
Team Member. We know him and knew the contact he made with Strieber, not
once, not twice, but THREE (3) times.
All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a
special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002
in the State of Florida.
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QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:
VICTOR:
Can you give me more details re. this statement?:
"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C., (VERY
closely controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for
him."
When did this occur?
How long was EBE #1 there?
Where did he stay?
Thank you.
ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine
ANONYMOUS: I will NOT supply that information.
For your information only (not for public view), Ebe #1 visited
Washington D.C. in 19XX and stayed at XXXX XXXX, XX in a special
XXXXX. He did NOT meet with President XXXXX!
[Withheld for reasons of national security.]
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FACTOID: The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I
viewed does have 12 (twelve) people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people
are also the number given in Spielberg's book version.
However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback
version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie EXCEPT for two (2)
interesting things. The 12 (twelve) Team Members are introduced as ALL
MEN.
An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a
sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While
he signs the last one he is told the following:
"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common
jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could
be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."
Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around
about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them
he is dead? Does that sound familiar?
"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but
it is not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"
COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender
count right.
It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special
screening of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," he
privately spoke to Steven Spielberg and said, "You don't know how
true this really is!"
[ The actual quote by President Reagan ]
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FLASH:
I received a very interesting e-mail (which I promised not to disclose)
from a senior USG official, who works within the Bush administration.
This official stated:
"Everyone within the NSC [National Security Council] is extremely
interested in Mr. Anonymous' information. Naturally, we cannot make any
official statements or comments on the subject matter.
"However, we are hopeful the public is accepting the information
with an OPEN MIND."
So, as you can see, everyone is getting this information. If the
NSC is aware of it, then I would say -- without a doubt -- it is
officially
sanctioned!
Hope the wind picks up!
[ NAME WITHHELD PER REQUEST ]
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REGARDING THE TEAM MEMBER PHOTOGRAPHS
We are working on obtaining four (4) photographs taken by our Team
Members of SERPO. I will scan them into my computer and then e-mail them
to you. You can send them to Bill Ryan for inclusion into the SERPO Web
site.
DON'T distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just
leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan
to post.
We are in the process of scanning photographs from SERPO. I'm not
sure how well they will turn out, but once I get them finalized, I will
e-mail them to you and you can provide them to Bill for the SERPO Web
site. I just hope they turn out alright.
Once the public sees these photographs, even our skeptics, die-hard
debunkers and those who claim that this is all a "non-event
disclosure," will scratch their heads in total amazement! [They're
NOT from a Hollywood movie set!]
– One photograph shows the entire Team standing next to an Eben home,
with several Ebens standing in the background;
– another photograph shows the Team's new home in the north;
– another photograph shows an Eben village in the north;
– another photograph shows a group of Eben's playing their
"soccer" game.
You'll love them!
One group member has a fool-proof way of sending them. I'm not sure of
the exact method, but I'll let you know just prior to his sending them.
Either they'll be sent to you (or Bill directly) in encrypted form or a
special military courier will bring them to you from a special unit
within the DIA.
We'll let you know.
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One final thing: Someone mentioned the planet "Sieu."
That was the pronunciation of SERPO by the Ebens. They're both one
and the SAME.
– ANONYMOUS
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POSTING #10
THE SPECIFIC CURRICULUM VITAE OF THE 12 TEAM MEMBERS / THE CONTINUING
LANGUAGE PROBLEMS WITH THE EBEN LANGUAGE / INTRODUCING "NOAH,"
THE EBEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE EXPERT AND SPACE TRAVELLER! / THE
"CONTRADICTION" PROVIDED BY "FALCON" ON THE EBEN
CLIMATE IS ADDRESSED! / THE EBEN's HAND
IN EARTH's PAST HISTORY AND RELIGION, AND THE INFAMOUS "ALIEN
AUTOPSY FILM" ARE ANSWERED AS WELL IN THIS BOMBSHELL, MUST-READ
POSTING!
After the extensive selection process, each Team Member had to
demonstrate their abilities to endure hardship, which included a battery
of psychological tests, medical screenings and a PAT (Positive Attitude
Tests which is a military test given to pilots and special forces
personnel).
The training consisted of the following:
1) Introduction to Space Exploration (taught by NASA personnel);
2) Astronomy, identification of stars, use of telescopes and general
astrophysics;
3) Eben anthropology (information received from Ebe #1);
4. Eben History (basic information received from Ebe #1);
5. U.S. Army Field Medical Training (trauma care). This was given to the
non-medical personnel on the Team;
6. High Altitude training-parachute and weightless/zero oxygen
environment training;
7. Survival, escape and evasion training;
8. Basic weapons and explosive training (six [6] pounds of C-4
[Composition-4] was taken);
http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm
(How C-4 works)
9. Psychological Operations Training and anti-interrogation
preparation;
10. Small Unit Tactical Training (Mini 4-week U.S. Army Ranger Course);
11. Intelligence Gathering Course;
12. Space Geology-collection methods and use of specialized
geological equipment;
13. Physical Stress Training;
14. Methods to cope with confinement/isolation;
15. Nurtrition course;
16. Equipment use training;
17. Individual speciality training;
18. Basic Biology;
19. Other training which is still considered EXTREMELY HIGHLY CLASSIFIED
EVEN AFTER 40 YEARS [1965 - 2005].
Humans could make the Eben tonal sounds, but one had to practice and
practice and practice. It took a long time for anyone studying the Eben
language to make the sounds. Some of the sounds were similar to
high pitch singing sounds. The bottom line is that it COULD be
done.
Now consider this: Even though each Team Member was taught the
Eben tonal sounds/language, it was difficult for the Team Members to
remember each tone and the use of other sounds with the tones. The
two (2) linguists on the Team practiced and learned enough to basically
communicate, according to the documents I read.
The Ebens learned English, but had difficulty pronouncing words
exactly correct. For example, according to the document, Ebens
could not say the letter "L." So, if the Eben's were
trying to say the word "look," it came out "ook."
Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the
summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about
four (4) months. We have no way of knowing when the Ebens received
our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them
to send it back. The signals were in Eben language, with a readout
and sounds, tonal, etc.
One interesting note: There was one Eben, who was a space
traveller and who could speak English better than the other Ebens who
had learned it. This Eben was codenamed "Noah" by the
Team. Every time the team had to communicate important
information, they turned to Noah. But during the latter part of our
Team's stay, Noah left for an away mission. By then, our two
linguists were able to communicate better than any other Team Member.
QUESTION: Why didn't our Team use the Eben communication device?
ANONYMOUS: They had it, but it contained only about 500 English words.
Not enough to fully communicate. The Team discarded the device
early in their stay.
Who is "Falcon?!" I AM READING FROM THE ACTUAL
DEBRIEFING DOCUMENTS.
There is no mention of a "Falcon." There is no mention
of a "Falcon" on the Briefing Control Access Roster. If
you're referring to the 1989 TV special, "UFOs Coverup,...
LIVE!" in which a "Falcon" and a "Condor"
appeared in shadowed form, THEY NEVER HAD ACCESS to the actual
"Project SERPO" Report.
I would guess that whomever Falcon is was spreading DISinformation.
Ebens lived on a warm planet, except the northern hemisphere, which was
cooler. Some Ebens lived in the cooler climate, but the
Ebens could NOT stand extreme cold.
I think one is confusing what Ebe #1 said about "OUR" planet. It
liked the cooler places on "OUR" planet. He was NOT
referring to
SERPO. Ebe #1 was a visitor on our planet and was taken to several
different locations, mostly warm. When he arrived at Los Alamos,
he remarked that he liked the "cooler" climate, meaning Los
Alamos in the LATE summer.
However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C., (VERY closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him.
I don't know about a "Falcon" or his/her information, but I DO
KNOW THE FACTS surrounding Ebe #1.
QUESTION: What do you make of what Ebe #1 ALLEGEDLY said about
Mankind being genetically altered throughout time AND that they
established religions and Christ in particular on our planet?
[An idea that was popularized in the 1989 bestseller, "The Gods of
Eden" by William Bramley, ISBN# 0380718073]
ANONYMOUS: If one reads the "Yellow Book" [the true and
correct history of Mankind as relayed by the ETEs] and reads between the
lines, one would come away with the thought and clear impression that
the Ebens had something to do with Jesus Christ or, possibly, Jesus was
one of THEM.
Also, if you look at some events that are shown in the "Yellow
Book," (remember, there are NO dates shown in the "Yellow
Book"), you can connect some incidents, such as Fatima, etc., with
an Eben landing.
http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html
http://www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm
QUESTION: Is the much ballyhooed and hyped "Alien Autopsy
Film" released by Ray Santilli REAL or FAKE?
ANONYMOUS: That film is a fake. We did perform four (4) autopsies of the
five (5) dead Ebens found in the Corona crash site and did photograph
them, however the bodies from the western New Mexico crash site were too
decomposed to be autopsied. But the Ray Santilli film is an absolute
100% FAKE.
http://www.soc.org/opcam/a_autopsy/alienautopsy.html
The "DIM" was the Duty Information Manual. It was
their "bible," for all of the information they would need.
The operations plans, how to execute the plans, emergency action
procedures, etc.
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POSTING #9
ADDENDUM to Posting #8: ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE GRUELING
TRAINING REGIMEN FOR THEIR 13-YEAR JOURNEY TO PLANET SERPO INCLUDING
PLANS FOR MASS SUICIDE, THE SECRET WEAPON OUR TEAM MEMBERS TOOK WITH
THEM TO NEUTRALIZE THE EBENS AND HOW THEY PLANNED TO ESCAPE PLANET SERPO
WITH A
"SAUCER-JACKED" EBEN CRAFT BACK TO EARTH!
Each Team Member had to endure extreme psychological and physical
training. In one training test, each Team Member was locked inside
a 5' x 7' box buried seven (7) feet underground for five (5) days, with
just food and water, no contact with anyone else and in total
darkness. This tested several factors.
Each Team Member also took a "pill" with them. The pill
was standard issue for intelligence agents operating behind enemy lines.
The pill could end their life if, for some reason, the Ebens turned out
to be hostile [they never did].
Several selected Team Members (pilots) were trained on flying an
Eben craft, one of which was the one captured near western New Mexico in
1949. The plan called for these selected few to fly the craft back
to Earth in case of an emergency.
There were four (4) pilots on the team. These four (4) spent many
weeks at the Nevada complex [Area 51/S4/Groom Lake / Dreamland] learning
to fly the recovered Eben alien craft. It wasn't hard to fly, once one
could understand the operation of the controls. I'm SURE many of the UFO
sightings back in 1964/'65 around the West could be attributed to these
test flights by our Team Members.
Selected Team Members carried small containers of liquid nitrogen. Ebens
were vulnerable to extreme cold. In case the Eben's
turned hostile, the liquid nitrogen could be used to neutralize Ebens
during an escape attempt. The Team Members were instructed to spray
the substance directly into the face of an Eben. Ebe #1 was found
to be vulnerable to this.
As for the liquid nitrogen matter. The liquid nitrogen was placed
in special containers, just like we do today. The debriefing
document
doesn't state the type of containers, just that each member had a small
container.
[NEVER materialized; ONLY the Earth human is a violently predisposed and
hostile sentient creature.]
However, during the return debriefing, the Team found the Ebens to
be so docile, each Team Member quickly DISCARDED THESE BOTTLES of liquid
nitrogen when they arrived on SERPO. The Ebens realized the Team
had this substance, but never questioned the reason for bringing it.
As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The
Ebens realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the
Team Members were bringing them along.
But each Team Member never carried the weapons EXCEPT during their
exploration of SERPO and then ONLY CERTAIN Team Members carried
them.
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POSTING #1
INITIAL E-MAIL BY "ANONYMOUS"
VICTOR:
First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.
As for Roswell, it occurred, but NOT like the story books tell. There
were two (2) crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the
second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.
The crash involved two (2) extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site
was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the
crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived
the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE]
was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined
food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.
The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was
examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los
Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that
allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to
Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.
The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers.
They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron
County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff
several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the
sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.
Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery
team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six (6) bodies.
The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los
Alamos.
The live entity established communications with us and provided us with
a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952,
when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full
explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a
communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his
planet.
Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for
April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved
the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged.
Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.
In 1965, we had AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WITH THE ALIENS. We carefully
selected 12 military personnel; ten (10) men and two (2) women. They
were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The
12 were skilled in various specialities.
Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and
the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan
was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.
But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were
returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven (7) men and one (1) woman
returned. Two (2) died on the alien's home planet. Four (4) others
DECIDED TO REMAIN, according to the returnees. Of the eight (8) that
returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.
The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military
installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was
responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also CONDUCTED
DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WITH THE RETURNEES.
I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.
I've monitored your e-mails for about six (6) months. I've read e-mails
from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the
real Roswell incident or the exchange program.
I'd like to hear what others say about this.
– ANONYMOUS
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The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO,"
Final
Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword.
|
| A comment on the SERPO revelation:
As for the laws of physics, your Anonymous is twisting the facts.
The orbits of those two stars Zeta1 & 2 is an observational fact,
not some law of physics although all galaxies, stars & planets
operate under those laws from what's been observed. The two stars are
spread wide apart by 350 billion miles called a wide binary. And
Kepler's law was applied to the planets of Zeta 2 and it works pretty
good even for elliptical orbits. Puts EBE-1's home planet #4 right where
it should be, see table below. The game I think is to convince everyone
that yes Anonymous does have some good information. But beware, good
information from what I see is being sprinkled with bad information or
disinfo. For Zeta 1 & 2 see link. For Zeta 2 Planets see table.
www.solstation.com/stars2/zeta-ret.htm
EBE-1 came from the 4th planet around Zeta 2. See the AU place planet 4
is sitting around Zeta 2 or 1.12 AU. Very nice place to live.... Notice
that Zeta-4 orbital period is 432 days but yet it's further out than
SERPO was in that Anonymous report which gave a ridiculous 865....
Planets of the Zeta 2 Reticulum System
===============================================================
Planet Semi-Major axis
Period(days) Period(years)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Reticulum 1 0.14 (AU)
18.9
(days) 0.052 (years)
Reticulum 2 0.28
54.0
0.1481
Reticulum 3 0.56
152.9
0.4196
Reticulum 4 1.12
432.6
1.12
---------------------------------------------------------------
So one Reticulum 4 year is equal to roughly 1.12 earth years or 432
days. And it is in roughly the same position in Zeta 2 Ret's
"life-zone" as the Earth is in the Sun's. Zeta 2 Ret is a G1V
spectral class star, the sun is a G2V
10
November
Kepler's laws apply to normal star systems. Zeta 1 & 2 are a wide
binary which is observed not calculated, repeat, observed not
calculated. Their masses are roughly
that of our own sun so that constant in Kepler's law can get set to 1.
Then you just do the rest. I'm not talking about the physical conditions
on SERPO. I'm talking about the orbits of the planets and stars. See
link below, Zeta 1 & 2 are separated by one tenth of a light year or
350 billion miles. Said those things a million times also. It's not me,
all those numbers can be referenced... www.solstation.com/stars2/zeta-ret.htm
10
November
I'm a military scientist. Here are my observations regarding the SERPO
information:
The question of whether the "laws of physics" apply
differently from galaxy to galaxy dependent upon their spin is
irrelevant to any discussion of Reticuli twins in that they are both
part of the same Milky Way galaxy as is our Sun. Moreover, any
distortion in our observations of OTHER galaxies which MIGHT result from
the spin of our own, would apply across the board, and thus in essence
negate itself since there would be no way to logically compare it to
similar distortional effects which would effect observers in other
galaxies in their efforts to observe us, presuming that both
observations were initiated at the exact same moment of Universal time.
In other words, if a third observer in some other dimension were able to
compare 1 unit of time (say a single oscillation of one atom of cesium)
as observed on planet earth, with 1 unit of time equally measured on the
planet X in the far-away galaxy of XXXXX, that observer might
conclude(after removing all other variables) that the two units were
different from his perspective even though both observers in both
galaxies might observe and report what they though were the same
results.
A cesium clock ticks off one second on planet earth. A twin cesium clock
placed in orbit and traveling at orbital velocity also ticks off one
second. Observers at each location agree that one second has passed as
confirmed by the read-out on their instrumentation. It is only when the
two clocks are compared that it becomes obvious that there has been some
distortion; yet in attempting to compare them it becomes equally obvious
that the same observer cannot ever observe both at EXACTLY the same time
(with a bow to Heisenberg). Thus, differences arise NOT from the
observation, but from the perspective used to interpret it.
The basic Theorem: Only from an observation platform set in ANOTHER
universe would an observer be able to detect and have some basis of
accurately comparing distortions being produced locally in THIS universe
by differences in the spin rates of the various galaxies of which it is
composed. All this aside, unless the inhabitants of SERPO routinely walk
on ceilings and through walls, the laws of physics apply the same there
as they do here.
Lieutenant Colonel ____ ____
USAF Scientific Advisory Group
11
November
If the "Away Team" couldn't make their measuring devices work
properly, then why even quote numbers like these?
Is a mile on earth a mile on SERPO? Recall that lengths are now referred
to the wavelength of light. Is the light wavelength to be trusted? Does
red light generated by excited neon atoms, which has a wavelength of
6328 Angstroms on earth, have some other value in SERPIAN length
measurement units? Is there neon on SERPO? (Are their elements the same?
Some have speculated that there could be different values for Planck's
Constant, c, etc., in different universes.
If SERPO is in another universe all bets are off as to whether or not we
could make sense of what is "normal" to them. Talk about
"out of the box" thinking.)
Some of you may recognize this as the wavelength of red HeNe laser
light.
If a HeNe laser were built on SERPO and the the laser light directed
toward earth would the wavelength when received on earth be 6328 Å ? If
so, then there should be a simple ratio between SERPIAN length units and
ours. If not, then it would be much more difficult or perhaps impossible
to derive SERPO physics from our own.
Moons: SERPO has two.
Complicated tides? Distances from planet? relative sizes? Periods?
Day: 43 hours
Whose hours? Makes no sense to quote this as hours unless it is intended
to mean our hours, which are related to our seconds (3600 per hour) and
each second is a number of oscillations of the atomic clock. If atoms
"run differently" on SERPO then not only will wavelengths be
different (see above) but also frequencies (time durations of
oscillation). Which type of day? Does this refer to rotation of the
planet relative to one of the nearby stars or relative to the distant
stars? (we measure "sun days" and "distant star"
days... they differ slightly because the earth rotates around the sun)
ASSUME this "day" is 43 of our hours so there are 154800 of
OUR sec in THEIR day as compared to 86400 of OUR sec in our day
(approximations used liberally!)
Year: 865 days.
Does this mean our years? Probably not! For someone on SERPO it would be
natural to measure a complete rotation around a sun (relative to distant
stars) in terms of the rotations of the planet.If we assume this means
THEIR days of 43 hours, then their year is (all numbers approximate)
1.3x 108 of OUR seconds, whereas our year is 3.1x107
of OUR seconds. Previously the Kepler law was applied under the
assumption that the mass of the sun about which the planet rotates was
the same as our sun. However, I, probably incorrectly, used 865 days as
865 of "our" days, which would be 2.37 of our years. I should
have accounted for the 43 hour day. A day this long means that the
rotation period is actually 865/365 x 43/24 = 4.2 of our years. For the
earth, Kepler's rule can be written as follows, using years and AU
as the units of measurement (with 1 AU = radius of earth from sun)
(1)3/(1)2 = 1 (AU)3/(year)2.
For a planet rotating about a sun with the mass of or sun in 4.2 years
Kepler's rule is written as r3/(4.2)2 = 1 which
leads to a radius of 2.6 AU or 240 million miles, noticeably larger than
the 164 million I calculated before.
One problem with this sun data: if strictly interpreted as the distance
from one sun is ALWAYS 91.4 million and the distance from the other is
ALWAYS 96.5 then we have an "impossibility".... or at least I
can't conceive of an orbit that keeps the distance from one constant at
one value and at the same time keeps the distance from the other also at
one value. I could conceive of an orbit that keeps the distance from one
constant while the distance to the other varies with a periodicity that
depends upon the period of rotation of the suns about one another and
the rotation period (SERPO year) of the planet. If interpreted as
average distances from the suns as SERPO travels in an elliptical (or
more complicated) orbit, then there may be some way to explain this. Of
course, those suns would be orbiting one another at some distance apart
so if SERPO did have an orbit that encompassed both suns, then it must
orbit the center of mass of the suns (unless there is some complex
orbit, as I suggested previously, like a figure 8 or a warped ellipse).
Need more info on the suns, orbit, etc.
OTHER AMUSING CALCULATIONS:
DIAMETER: earth: 7,900 mi = 12,700 KM. SERPO 7,200 mi.= 11,600 km
MASS: earth - 6 x 1024 kg SERPO 5 x 1024 kg
(assumed to be mass in kg)
AVG DENSITY = mass/([pi/6]D3)
For Earth = 5590 kg/m3
For SERPO = 6,100 kg/m3
g (accel of grav at surface) = GM/(Rsurf)2 where G = 6.7 x
10-11 m3kg-1s-2....
for earth (if you multiply the approximate numbers used here) g = 9.97
m/s2
(when done more accurately, 9.8 m/s2) for SERPO: 9.96 m/s2
AMAZING! (I had no idea that these numbers would come out so close)
(But why does the data table above show 9.60 m/s2. Is G
different in the SERPIAN system? )
Tilt 43 degrees.
Are these "earth degrees" of arc? That is quite a tilt, by the
way. Would make considerable winter-summer differences in each
hemisphere (upper, lower).
Temperature: 43 to 126 deg (F? C?).
Are these their degrees or ours? I presume ours (else why quote them).
An interesting experiment would be to determine whether or not the
blackbody curve on their planet is the same as on earth. If the physics
is really different there might be a difference in BB radiation (which
relates electromagnetic wave, thermodynamics and
quantum physics) There are lots more numerical "tests" one
could do to compare these two systems. Only by doing such tests can one
learn where the differences really are... or if things are the same
after all. First applying what is known to some new phenomenon is part
of the scientific method. IF what is known
fails to explain the phenomenon, then it is time to move out of the box.
Incidentally, people have been accused of not having an "open
mind" because they have asked questions that might illuminate
inconsistencies in the story and numerical data. However, I would guess
that anyone on this email list has an open mind..... or wouldn't be
here. Just be sure not to let your brains fall out.
1
December
I would like to suggest a new way of looking at time, which seems to
clear up some of the Anonymous references.
If any particle, say an electron, is given a 'push', it doesn't move
immediately: it just sits there for a time known as 'Tau': 2e2/3mc3,
or 6.26 x 10-24
seconds. After that time, it is instantaneously found to be moving at
whatever velocity the 'push' imparts to it. This non-local behavior in
time has been known for better than half a century, and is mostly just
ignored as 'too small' to worry about. This was the conclusion of F.
Rohrlich in 1962: "The Theory of the Electron":
www.philsoc.org/1962Spring/1526transcript.html
In his equation 9, he (incorrectly) derives this same time, 6 x 10-24
seconds, noting that it represents "a non-local behavior in
time" with "a lack of causality" at these time-intervals,
but 'too small' to inviolate the theory.
However in particle colliders, this time interval can't be ignored, for
every interaction, however violent, takes this minimum time before
anything 'happens'. Modern non-technical 'explanations' of this can be
found several places, for instance in Dr. Sam Treiman's book "The
Odd Quantum" (Princeton University Press, 2000) pp. 97-98 in which
he shows that the wave function does not change from T = 0 to T = Tau,
with all the change happening at the latter point.
If this same behavior were measured as the output of an
analog-to-digital converter, say a music synthesizer, it would be
instantly recognized that the time Tau was the interval between digital
slices of the analog wave. To put it more simply, a digital converter
puts an analog wave, say a musical sequence, through a 'baloney slicer',
giving a digital number to each intercept of the wave by each 'slice'.
In the electron's case, the impulse is delivered at T = 0, but there is
no measurement until the later time T = Tau, at which time the next
'slice' shows all the change in the analog wave over the (unmeasured)
interval Tau. (The digital number is a 'point-particle' result, although
the electron is and has evolved as 'wave'.)
This leads directly to the conclusion that time is quantized, a
frequency, the interval Tau being the time between 'baloney slices' of
an analog wave, the 'refresh rate' of our reality. Heisenberg was
groping toward this conclusion, noting that Planck's Constant 'h' was
not a 'pure' constant, but a constant of proportionality. He always
thought it was the 'shadow' of some 'pure' constant in some other
dimension: he chose distance, deriving the above relationship as a
distance, 2e2/3mc2,
or about 1.8 x 10-15
meters. (This is the measured diameter of the nucleon, NOT a
coincidence.) He tried to slice the universe into tiny cubes this size,
but this didn't work, so he abandoned it.
However Planck's Constant has the dimensions of energy times time. Since
Planck was working with black-body energy, it has always simply been
assumed that energy is quantized. However everything works exactly the
same if one assumes that time is the quantized entity. And as Heisenberg
noted, this interval, whether measured as distance or time, is exactly
the 'width' of the uncertainty relationship, as of course the analog
wave is unmeasured, hence uncertain, anywhere between 'slices'.
This conclusion, that time is quantized, or a frequency, of course has
immense implications, the most startling perhaps being that we may live
in a 'virtual', rather than a 'real', reality.
However if one recognizes that time is a frequency, one can then look
for means of altering this frequency. This might mean that ones
subjective time might remain the same, but the 'rest of the universe'
might flash by much faster. "Visitors" have always said that
time is much different from our understanding of it. I don't have the
reference in front of me, but in the book "Witnessed" by Budd
Hopkins an abductee describes being taken from a pool party in the midst
of her family, which was frozen in place, splash from the pool hanging
in air. Such a change in time's frequency might result in a journey of
thirty-some light years taking only seven months or so.
Further implications of quantized time can be found in my papers,
published in "Infinite Energy" magazine, issues 43, and 44,
and available on the web at
www.openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
and
www.openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf
Note: There is an
internet forum dedicated to
discussing the ongoing Serpo release. Please
click here to visit.
The forum is not formally
connected to this site, and this site's webmaster (Bill Ryan)
is in no way responsible for its content. But he does support
its intention, which is to provide a place where Serpo
questions can be debated intelligently and in friendship.
___________________________________
The following information was
sent to Victor Martinez from someone claiming to represent a
British Intelligence (MI6) source, and was published by him on
24 August. This did not come from the same source as did the
previous release, #19. The original Anonymous – who provided
releases #1-11 and also #19 – wrote the following short
message to Victor after he had been consulted about it:
“What's new in this? Someone just took information from the
other
postings we did together and made this up. I don't see
anything
new.
“I doubt this came from British Intelligence. I think someone
just
fabricated this.
“I should also mention to you that we have two members on your
list who
monitor it for relevant Serpo-related information which is
then
forwarded to me and my group.”
Victor Martinez has requested that if the information
below is proved to be bogus it will be removed from this site.
The information that Victor Martinez received:
XXXXXX became involved in "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" in the
summer of
1958. XXXXXX was assigned to Holloman AFB when he was briefed
into a
program that involved communication with an Extraterrestrial
Race.
XXXXXX had known about Roswell as part of an earlier briefing
in 1952.
Although XXXXXX never had any contact with Ebe-1, he did see
photographs
and a film showing the creature with its handler. This would
be the same
film shown to others who were briefed into the program.
During the summer of 1958, XXXXXX was called to Sandia Base
(Kirtland
AFB) for a top secret meeting. There were command officials
present.
[General] Charles Cabell, USAF was in charge of a group that
would
eventually control "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT."
[MODERATOR's NOTE: General Charles Cabell was the brother of
Earle
Cabell, who was the mayor of Dallas at the time of the JFK
Assassination; see further notes at END of POSTING #20.]
Other members in the group were: Phil Howell, George Simler,
Miles
Doyle, Bob Hall, Curtis Frisbie, Harry Robb, Earl Butts,
Richard Hamaski
and Jack Thomas. All were members of USAF, and most were in AF
Security
Groups (AF Intelligence back then).
A presentation was given on an extraordinary planned event
involving
contact with an Extraterrestrial Intelligence located on
another planet.
The project called for several levels.
First, establishing a series of communication relay stations
around the
world that would receive signals from this ET civilization and
relay it
to a central lo |