compiled by Dee Finney

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Ezekiel 38: page 5

1Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2"Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3"and say, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4"I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5"Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6"Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops-many people are with you. ( Persia is Iran etc...and of course Magog etc is Russia, this is
what we are building towards with the attack on the USA at the Same time! 

Pastor Dan)

"Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them. 8"After many days you will be isited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought
back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely. 9"You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples
with you."

(Below is the USA according to many Bible Scholars, PD )

10'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11"You will say, 'I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates'- 12"to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 13"Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, 'Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and
gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?' "

The Below article is taken from; The Golden Report

When the President of Iran speaks at a conference called "The World without Zionism" and in his speech he says "Israel must be wiped off the map" we have a big problem. Then when you consider that Iran in most likelihood has the nuclear bomb and the delivery system to send it to Tel-Aviv the problem gets even larger. Can you amagine the worlds reaction if Sharon said that about Iran? With the help of Russia, North Korea, China and Pakistan Iranians are most likely ready to attack Israel at any given moment and we know it, as does the rest of the world. With oil prices at the highest in history they certainly have the money to buy whatever they want in the way of weapons, and you can be sure that the above mentioned countries will sell
them anything they want for a price.

The world has also witnessed the parades in Iran where they have shown off their new missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons to Israel or even Europe for that matter but written on the sides of the missiles are slogans that say "for the destruction of Israel". 

I don't think you have to be a master Politician to see we are in trouble here in Israel.

Since Israel pulled out of southern Lebanon the Iranian backed Hizbullah has been building up missiles bases and now have a reported 13,000 missiles ready to be fired at Israel whenever Iran decides it's time, many with chemical warheads. All this of course has been designed to come together at the precise time to destroy Israel. Iran and Syria have agreed that if either is attacked by the US or Israel the other would come to their rescue.

(We have two CD Radio programs with DR. HUSTON, Advisor to the CIA on Terrorism, that says troops are massing on the Syrian Border. PD )

To add insult to injury Syria has just purchased the Iskander SS-26 missiles from Russia with a 400 km range, putting two thirds of Israel in range, these missiles are capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and are very
accurate. For the past couple years Syria who has no real love for the "Palestinians" has been training thousands of them out of the Lebanon refugee camps too fight Israel. It has been reported that they have recently moved a very large number of them to their southern borders making even the Lebanon army nervous

Al Aqsa leader admits terror orders given from Damascus, © 2005 October 29, 2005

JERUSALEM - The suicide bombing north of Tel Aviv that killed five Israelis and wounded more than 30 this week was directly backed by Syria and Iran, security sources said.

Shalom, Pastor Dan

This is Bible Prophecy

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From: "ron h" <>
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ufos-unbound] Re: Iran

Just remember one thing folks, George bush was trying to find a reason to invade Iran long before  Iran made these extreme statements.  The actions of the USA  and Isreal and the U K ,concerning mid-east policy, is part of  the reason  that  these extreme attitudes exist  in Iran.. A failed foreign policy and greed for oil is the real problem. The statements from Iran are just a reaction to this failed foreign policy and greed for oil on the part of the USA.  and other western powers that always support Israel.

     The invasion of Iraq is creating more and more people and countries that have attitudes that  are similar to what we are seeing in Iran.
     Lets  fix our forgein policy so that it does not create more enemies for the USA, the UK, and, Israel.
                                   PEACE R.

Dexxxaa <> wrote:
Here's the full article
In today's L.A.Times

Iranian President Says Israel Should Be 'Wiped Off the Map' Ahmadinejad's harsh rhetoric marks a sharp departure from his predecessor's policy. The U.S. and others condemn the speech.

From Times Wire Services

TEHRAN â?" Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared Wednesday that Israel is a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map."

Ahmadinejad's speech to thousands of students at a "World Without Zionism" conference set a hard-line foreign policy course sharply at odds with that of his moderate predecessor, and the United States said Ahmadinejad's
remarks showed that Washington's fears about Iran's nuclear program were accurate.

"I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran," White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters in Washington. "It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions."

Spain, France, Britain and Canada also condemned the remarks.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said that Ahmadinejad and Mahmoud Zahar, a leader of the Palestinian militant group Hamas, "speak openly about destroying the Jewish state."

Under reformist President Mohammad Khatami, whose eight-year tenure ended this year, Iran had shown signs of easing its implacable hostility toward Israel.

Officials said then that Tehran might not object to a two-state solution in the Mideast if that was what the Palestinians wanted.

But Ahmadinejad, referring to Palestinian suicide bomb attacks in Israel, said that "there is no doubt that the new wave in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world."

Ahmadinejad also condemned Iran's neighbors that seek to break new ground in their relations with Israel.

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," state-run television quoted the president as saying.

12-8-05 - DREAM - At the end of a dream in which a man named David tried to pay his rent with a bad check in the amount of $61.00, and several bills of lading was in his checkbook for purchasing some large items, I saw a message that said, "Iran is all set".  Below that it said, "61 percent _______ (unfortunately I couldn't read the rest of that sentence) (Pretty coincidental that David couldn't pay his rent with a bad check in the same amount of the percentage amount)

2-16-92 - DREAM - I saw Saddam Hussein coming out of a large building. ...
Vice-President Dick Cheney repeated the promise to prevent Iraq, Iran and North ...

DREAM OF 33 Further tests were carried out by Iran, which had based its Shebab
3 missile on the Nodong technology bought from Pyongyang. ... ...

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - MARCH, 2002 ... Iran and Iraq suffer large, ... S - Z.
China, India, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Korea North, Korea Sourth, Libya, ...

Israel expands war arsenal to deal with Iranian nuclear threat


 1:47 p.m. December 8, 2005

 JERUSALEM – Israel is expanding its military arsenal to deal with what it views as the greatest threat to its existence: a nuclear attack by Iran.

It has acquired dozens of warplanes with long-range fuel tanks to allow them to reach Iran and signed a deal with Germany for two submarines reportedly capable of firing nuclear missiles.

Though Israeli security officials say a strike against Iran is not on the horizon, senior Israeli politicians have begun openly discussing the possibility of a military option – either alone or with other countries.

Such a mission would be far more complicated than the 1981 Israeli raid that destroyed an unfinished Iraqi nuclear reactor. It would require heavy precision bombs that can blast through underground bunkers, manned aircraft to bombard multiple targets and possibly ground commandos to make sure weapons materials are destroyed, experts say.

"It's not a target that you can find on the map, send two F15s and solve it," said Itamar Yaar, deputy head of Israel's National Security Council.

Both the United States and Israel refuse to say whether a strike plan is in the works.

Hard feelings between Israel and Iran date to just before the 1979 Islamic Revolution when the Israelis joined the United States in siding with the Shah before he was deposed.

Partly because of that, the founder of the Islamic revolution, the Ayatollah Khomeini, called Israel the "Little Satan," saving the term "Great Satan" for the U.S., Israel's patron.

The Iranian brand of Islam allows no place for a Jewish state in the Middle East, and Israel points out often that Iran is the only member of the United Nations that publicly calls for destruction of another member. Israel's animosity toward Iran stems not only from the Iranian leadership's anti-Israel statements, but also its support of armed groups like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad.

Tensions between the countries have mounted recently amid growing concern about Iran's atomic program.

Tehran says its nuclear program is to generate electricity, not make bombs. But plans announced this week to build more nuclear power plants and to purchase 30 Tor-M1 surface-to-air missiles from Russia have raised fears.

Hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel to be "wiped off the map" in October also set off alarms. On Thursday, the Iranian leader said the Jewish state should be moved to Europe and questioned whether the Holocaust took place.

Both Israel and the U.S. say diplomatic options should be exhausted before any military action is contemplated.

But this week, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said the ability to take out Iran's nuclear program by force "of course exists." His hard-line political rival, Benjamin Netanyahu, went further, saying he would support a pre-emptive raid.

Israel's military chief, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, said Sunday he did not believe diplomatic pressure will be enough to keep Tehran from developing the bomb and a military solution may be necessary.

"Who is the one to implement it? That is another question that I'm not going to answer. 'When?' is another question that I'm not going to answer. But there are options worldwide," he said.

U.S. officials have refrained from calling for military action, favoring diplomacy, inspections and trade sanctions. Still, President Bush has said the U.S. will not let Iran get the bomb.

Some experts argue a military strike would not be feasible because of a lack of good intelligence on targets, the existence of multiple atomic installations scattered throughout Iran, some underground or bored into mountains, and the country's increasingly sophisticated defense systems.

But others say the capability is there, a combination of precision missiles, bunker-buster bombs, airpower and elite ground forces to penetrate the most difficult sites.

The U.S. – with cruise missiles that can deliver high-explosive bombs to precise locations and B-2 bombers capable of dropping 85 500-pound bombs in a single run – could take on the task, several experts said.

Whether Israel could is an unanswered question. However, the country already has received about half the 102 American-built F-16I warplanes it ordered, with extra fuel tanks to let them reach Iran.

Israel signed a deal with Germany to build two more Dolphin submarines capable of firing atomic missiles at Iran. Israel already has three Dolphins, a key deterrent to any future nuclear confrontation.

Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, though it refuses to confirm or deny it.

Last week, Israel successfully tested its Arrow missile defense system against a missile similar to Iran's Shahab-3, which can be equipped with a nuclear warhead to reach Israel or several U.S. military installations in the Middle East.

Experts say possible targets in Iran include the Bushehr nuclear facility and a uranium conversion center at Esfahan.

David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, said any strike would be fraught with pitfalls. But a successful one would have to be a "bolt out of the blue" to prevent Iran from moving its uranium centrifuges, a key component for enriching uranium used to make nuclear bombs.

He also said ground commando raids would likely be necessary to ensure hidden tools used for atomic purposes are destroyed.

Israeli analyst Gerald Steinberg said it wouldn't be necessary to get "100 percent of the targets" to set back Iran's nuclear program. A limited operation to disrupt power supplies, block access to sites or remove key components could be enough.

He noted Iran has learned lessons from Israel's 1981 strike against the Osirak nuclear reactor near Baghdad, dispersing nuclear sites, putting facilities underground and improving defense.

"But 25 years have passed since then and the offensive capabilities of the armies involved have also advanced," he added.

Albright warned any strike, especially one that leaves some nuclear capabilities intact, would likely strengthen Iran's resolve to aggressively pursue atomic weapons.

He said Iran would most likely retaliate by making "life miserable for the United States in Iraq" and launch attacks against Israel through proxies such as Lebanon's Hezbollah guerrillas.


US and Iran: Is Washington Planning a Military Strike?

    Saturday 31 December 2005

Recent reports in the German media suggest that the United States may be preparing its allies for an imminent military strike against facilities that are part of Iran's suspected clandestine nuclear weapons program.

    It's hardly news that US President George Bush refuses to rule out possible military action against Iran if Tehran continues to pursue its controversial nuclear ambitions. But in Germany, speculation is mounting that Washington is preparing to carry out air strikes against suspected Iranian nuclear sites perhaps even as soon as early 2006.

    German diplomats began speaking of the prospect two years ago - long before the Bush administration decided to give the European Union more time to convince Iran to abandon its ambitions, or at the very least put its civilian nuclear program under international controls. But the growing likelihood of the military option is back in the headlines in Germany thanks to a slew of stories that have run in the national media here over the holidays.

    The most talked about story is a Dec. 23 piece by the German news agency DDP from journalist and intelligence expert Udo Ulfkotte. The story has generated controversy not only because of its material, but also because of the reporter's past. Critics allege that Ulfkotte in his previous reporting got too close to sources at Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND. But Ulfkotte has himself noted that he has been under investigation by the government in the past (indeed, his home and offices have been searched multiple times) for allegations that he published state secrets - a charge that he claims would underscore rather than undermine the veracity of his work.

    According to Ulfkotte's report, "western security sources" claim that during CIA Director Porter Goss' Dec. 12 visit to Ankara, he asked Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide support for a possibile 2006 air strike against Iranian nuclear and military facilities. More specifically, Goss is said to have asked Turkey to provide unfettered exchange of intelligence that could help with a mission.

    DDP also reported that the governments of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman and Pakistan have been informed in recent weeks of Washington's military plans. The countries, apparently, were told that air strikes were a "possible option," but they were given no specific timeframe for the operations.

    In a report published on Wednesday, the Berlin daily Der Tagesspiegel also cited NATO intelligence sources claiming that Washington's western allies had been informed that the United States is currently investigating all possibilities of bringing the mullah-led regime into line, including military options. Of course, Bush has publicly stated for months that he would not take the possibility of a military strike off the table. What's new here, however, is that Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack rather than merely implying the possibility as it has repeatedly done during the past year.

    Links to al-Qaida?

    According to DDP, during his trip to Turkey, CIA chief Goss reportedly handed over three dossiers to Turkish security officials that purportedly contained evidence that Tehran is cooperating with Islamic terror network al-Qaida. A further dossier is said to contain information about the current status of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program. Sources in German security circles told the DDP reporter that Goss had ensured Ankara that the Turkish government would be informed of any possible air strikes against Iran a few hours before they happened. The Turkish government has also been given the "green light" to strike camps of the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in Iran on the day in question.

    The DDP report attributes the possible escalation to the recent anti-Semitic rants by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose belligerent verbal attacks on Israel (he described the Holocaust as a "myth" and called for Israel to be "wiped off the map") have strengthened the view of the American government that, in the case of the nuclear dispute, there's little likelihood Tehran will back down and that the mullahs are just attempting to buy time by continuing talks with the Europeans.

    The German wire service also quotes a high-ranking German military official saying: "I would be very surprised if the Americans, in the mid-term, didn't take advantage of the opportunity delivered by Tehran. The Americans have to attack Iran before the country can develop nuclear weapons. After that would be too late."

    Despite the wave of recent reports, it's naturally difficult to assess whether the United States has any concrete plans to attack Iranian nuclear facilities. In a January 2005 report in the New Yorker, US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh claimed that clandestine American commando groups had already infiltrated Iran in order to mark potential military targets.

    At the time, the Bush administration did not dispute Hersh's reporting - it merely sought to minimize its impact. In Washington, word circulated that the article was filled with "inaccurate statements." But no one rejected the core reporting behind the article. Bush himself explicitly stated he would not rule out the "option of war."

    How Great Is the Threat?

    So is the region now on the verge of a military strike or even a war? In Berlin, the issue is largely being played down. During his inaugural visit with US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in Washington last week, the possibility of a US air strike against Iran "hadn't been an issue," for new German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, a Defense Ministry spokesman told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

    But the string of visits by high-profile US politicians to Turkey and surrounding reports are drawing new attention to the issue. In recent weeks, the number of American and NATO security officials heading to Ankara has increased dramatically. Within a matter of only days, the FBI chief, then the CIA chief and, most recently, NATO General Secretary Jaap De Hoop Scheffer visited the Turkish capital. During her visit to Europe earlier this month, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also traveled to Turkey after a stopover in Berlin.

    Leading the chorus of speculation are Turkish newspapers, which have also sought to connect these visits to plans for an attack on Iran. But so far none of the speculation has been based on hard facts. Writing about the meeting between Porter Goss and Tayyip Erdogan, the left-nationalist newspaper Cumhuriyet wrote: "Now It's Iran's Turn." But the paper didn't offer any evidence to corroborate the claims.

    Instead, the paper noted that the meeting between the CIA chief and Erdogan lasted longer than an hour - an unusual amount of time, especially considering Goss had previously met with the head of Turkey's intelligence service, the MIT. The Turkish media concluded that the meetings must have dealt with a very serious matter - but they failed to uncover exactly what it was. Most media speculated that Erdogan and Goss might have discussed a common initiative against the PKK in northern Iraq. It's possible that Goss demanded secret Turkish intelligence on Iran in exchange. Regardless what the prospects are for a strike, there's little chance a US air strike against Iran would be launched from its military base in the Turkish city of Incirlik, but it is conceivable that the United States would inform Turkey prior to any strike.

    Skepticism in Ankara

    Until now the government in Ankara has viewed US military activities in the region at best with skepticism and at worst with open condemnation. At the beginning of 2003, Ankara even attempted to prevent an American ground offensive in northern Iraq against the Saddam regime. A still-irritated Donald Rumsfeld has repeatedly blamed military problems in Iraq on the fact that this second front was missing.

    Two weeks ago, Yasar Buyukanit, the commander of the Turkish army and probable future chief of staff of the country's armed forces, flew to Washington. After the visit he made a statement that relations between the Turkish army and the American army were once again on an excellent footing. Buyukanit's warm and fuzzy words, contrasted greatly with his past statements that if the United States and the Kurds in northern Iraq proved incapable of containing the PKK in the Kurd-dominated northern part of the country and preventing it from attacking Turkey, Buyukanit would march into northern Iraq himself.

    At the same time, Ankara has little incentive to show a friendly face to Tehran - Turkish-Iranian relations have long been icy. For years now, Tehran has criticized Turkey for maintaining good relations with Israel and even cooperating with the Israeli army. Yet despite those ties to Israel, Ahmadinejad's recent anti-Israeli outbursts were reported far less extensively in Turkey than in Europe.

    Still, Erdogan has been demonstrably friendly towards Israel recently - as evidenced by Erdogan's recent phone call to Ariel Sharon, congratulating the prime minister on his recent recovery from heart surgery. In the past, relations between Erdogan and Sharon have been reserved, but recently the two have grown closer. Nevertheless, Turkey's government has distanced itself from Sharon's threats to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon on his own if nobody else steps up to the task.

    The Turkish government has also repeatedly stated that it opposes military action against both Iran and Syria. The key political motivation here is that - at least when it comes to the Kurdish question - Turkey, Syria and Iran all agree on one thing: they are opposed to the creation of an independent Kurdistan in northern Iraq. But if the United States moves forward with an attack against Iran, Turkey will have no choice but to jump on board - either as an active or passive partner.

    It's a scenario that has Erdogan and his military in a state of deep unease. After all, even experts in the West are skeptical of whether a military intervention against nuclear installations in Iran could succeed. The more likely scenario is that an attack aiming to stop Iran's nuclear program could instead simply bolster support for Ahmadinejad in the region.