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DETENTION CENTERS 
PRESIDENT G.W. BUSH SPEECH TO CONGRESS - 9-20-2001 
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PERSONALITIES SINCE THE WTC EVENT 
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      HULL OF THE U.S.S. NEW YORK 
      MADE FROM STEEL OF THE NEW YORK TRADE TOWERS 
      
        
       
      U.S.S. NEW YORK - ORIGINAL ARTIST'S CONCEPTION 
      
        
       
        
      
        
      
      
      
      
      Here SHE is, the USS New York,  
      made from the  World   Trade   Center  !  
      
        
      
      
      
      USS New York 
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                          This ship was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from 
                          the  World   Trade   Center  . 
                           
                          It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed 
                          for missions that include special operations against 
                          terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 
                          700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by 
                          helicopters and assault craft.  
                           
                          Steel from the  World Trade Center  was melted down in 
                          a foundry in Amite , LA  to cast the ship's bow 
                          section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 
                          2003, 'those big rough steelworkers treated it with 
                          total reverence,' recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, 
                          who was there. 'It was a spiritual moment for 
                          everybody there.'  
                           
                          Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that 
                          when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched 
                          it with his hand and the 'hair on my neck stood up.' 
                          'It had a big meaning to it for all of us,' he said. 
                          'They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're 
                          going to be back.'  
                           
                          The ship's motto? 'Never Forget' 
                           
                          Now everyone can see what we are
                          
                          
                           made of in this country!  
                       
                     
                   
                 
               
             
           
         
       
      
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BODIES DISCOVERED 5 YEARS AFTER THE BOMBING
Human Remains Found at Ground Zero 
By Foreign News Desk 
Sunday, October 22, 2006 
zaman.com 
More human remains have been found in an abandoned manhole at a site near Ground 
Zero, the site of the Sept. 11 attacks.Relatives of the Sept. 11 victims 
reacted to the development and demanded a new investigation and research into 
the area that the remains were found.  
Approximately 1,100 victims’ bodies were never found after the attacks on the 
Twin Towers.  
Charles Wolfe, whose wife worked on the 97th floor of the north tower, said 
he was shocked when he heard about remains being found and added, “What bothers 
me is that we have to come up here and ask about it.”  
Reportedly, some of the remains were as big as an arm or foot.  
Workers in the area were ordered to look for new body remains.  
Patrick Brennan, who works New York City mayor's community assistance unit, 
said no official identifications have been made so far and added that New York 
police and health officers were conducting the investigation. 
 
                Bones could be from 9/11
                October 23, 2006 12:00am
                Article from: The Associated Press
              
              MORE bones believed to belong to September 11 World Trade 
              Centre attack victims were found yesterday.
The 
              authorities in New York continued searching underground areas that 
              were apparently overlooked during the excavation years ago.  
              Deputy Mayor Ed Skyler, who is overseeing the recovery effort, 
              said yesterday that search officials had identified additional 
              manholes and utility cavities that need to be examined.
              The team of searchers, which includes police and fire officials 
              and forensic anthropologists from the medical examiner's office, 
              expects to burrow into at least 12 subterranean areas in coming 
              days. About five have been excavated, yielding more than 100 
              pieces of human remains.
              The medical examiner's office said 18 were found yesterday and 
              the total cache of discoveries ranges from tiny fragments to 
              recognisable bones from skulls, torsos, feet and hands. Some are 
              as large as whole arm and leg bones.  
              "They will go through every grain, every piece of material 
              carefully, and sift through it," Mr Skyler said.  
              The underground pockets are located along the western edge of 
              the 6.4-hectare lower Manhattan site, underneath a north-south 
              service road that was built in March of 2002 as the excavation was 
              continuing.
              Building the road freed up a larger throughway that had been 
              closed since the September 11 attack six months earlier.  
              However, when it was built, some below-ground cavities that had 
              been used for utility and infrastructure purposes were paved over 
              without being searched for remains. Days ago, crews doing routine 
              work at the site opened one of those manholes and discovered human 
              bones inside, setting off an expedition for other remains.  
              Families of the victims, 40 per cent of whom still have no 
              identifiable remains, have been outraged about the horrific 
              discovery of the underground tombs. They are calling for federal 
              intervention and have demanded answers about why the search was 
              incomplete.  
              Mr Skyler said the city is focused on finding remains before it 
              will turn to a review of any missteps.  
              "It's a question that should be answered, but for now our focus 
              is on dealing with the situation and finding whatever remains are 
              recoverable," he said.  
              Mr Skyler said widespread stoppage of rebuilding efforts would 
              not be necessary, but if any part of the rebuilding needs to pause 
              to accommodate the search, officials will take that step by step.
              
              
              Some September 11 families, however, want all rebuilding to 
              halt until the recovery is finished.  
              "Their actions say remains are not a priority, they're 
              secondary to the rebuilding," said Charles Wolf, who lost his wife 
              and has never received any of her identified remains. "This is 
              bringing up all the gnawing, gut-wrenching stuff inside us again."
              
              
              The new cache of remains is not the first to turn up 
              unexpectedly since the clean-up officially concluded in 2002. 
              Hundreds of bone fragments recently were found on the roof of a 
              nearby skyscraper that was badly damaged in the 2001 attack and 
              had been condemned.
              Victims' relatives, who had been pushing for more careful 
              inspection of surrounding buildings, say the recent discoveries 
              support their argument.  
              Mr Skyler said that officials are reviewing the searches that 
              were conducted at those buildings and that additional inspections 
              may be necessary.
              
              
              Remains of Three From 9/11 Plane Identified
                    NEW YORK (Nov. 2, 2006) - Human 
                    remains recovered from around the World Trade Center site 
                    have been identified as those of a Massachusetts flight 
                    attendant killed in the Sept. 11 terror attacks, officials 
                    said.
                    The city's medical examiner's office 
                    announced Wednesday that remains had been identified for 
                    three more victims of the attack. The remains were recovered 
                    long ago and were not involved in recent discoveries that 
                    prompted renewed searches.
                    The remains belonged to Karen Martin, 
                    Douglas Stone and another man whose family asked that his 
                    name not be released, said Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for 
                    the medical examiner's office.
                    Martin, of Danvers, Mass., was an 
                    attendant on American Flight 11 that was hijacked and 
                    crashed into the north tower, and Stone, of Dover, N.H., was 
                    a passenger.
                    The identifications were made after 
                    the families submitted additional DNA samples to the medical 
                    examiner's lab, Borakove said. She declined to comment 
                    further on their cases.
                    The remains of about 40 percent of 
                    those killed at the World Trade Center have not been 
                    identified.
                    Over the years, as the medical 
                    examiner has tried to identify the remains of the 2,749 
                    victims, some families have occasionally been asked to give 
                    more DNA, typically from cheek swabs, to enhance the profile 
                    and increase their chance of getting a match.
                    Meanwhile, New York is hiring several 
                    additional forensic experts as it renews its search for 
                    remains around the site.
                    As many as 10 forensic 
                    anthropologists will join the search for remains of Sept. 11 
                    victims on the next phase of the project, which could 
                    stretch well into next year, Deputy Mayor Ed Skyler said.
                    The work involves tearing up parts of 
                    side streets, exploring the rooftops of selected buildings 
                    near the 16-acre site, and excavating more manholes beyond 
                    the dozen that the city is already exploring.
                    The current search was prompted by 
                    the discovery last month of human bones in an abandoned 
                    manhole.
                    Some 200 pieces of bone and other 
                    remains have been found since the accidental discovery last 
                    month by utility workers doing routine labor in a manhole 
                    along the western edge of the lower Manhattan site. 
                    Officials say the manhole had been paved over and forgotten 
                    when a service road was built there in the midst of 
                    excavating trade center rubble years ago.
                    11/02/06 06:36 EST
                    
                      Copyright 2006 The Associated Press.
                                Nov. 2, 2006, 8:15PM
                                
                                Families: 
                                Expand search for WTC remains
                                
                                By AMY WESTFELDT Associated 
                                Press Writer 
                                © 2006 The Associated Press  
                                            NEW YORK — Holding loved ones' 
                                            photographs at the World Trade 
                                            Center site, more than 150 relatives 
                                            of Sept. 11 victims urged the city 
                                            to call in a military unit that 
                                            specializes in finding and 
                                            identifying human remains.The 
                                            recent discovery of hundreds of body 
                                            parts in a manhole on the site and 
                                            in a skyscraper just outside it 
                                            proves the city didn't do a thorough 
                                            job, they said in calling for an 
                                            expanded search.
                                            "We shouldn't have to rally. We 
                                            shouldn't have to beg," said Robin 
                                            Audiffred, who has no remains for 
                                            her husband, James. "You need to 
                                            make it right. You need to do 
                                            whatever it takes at this point."
                                            Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the 
                                            unit, called the Joint POW/MIA 
                                            Accounting Command, wouldn't be 
                                            brought in, although the city plans 
                                            to hire up to 10 more forensic 
                                            experts.
                                            "We have the expertise in house," 
                                            Bloomberg said. "This is an 
                                            investigation where, when you have 
                                            the expertise, you really want to do 
                                            it locally. It's the city's 
                                            responsibility."
                                            Some 200 pieces of bone and other 
                                            remains have been found since 
                                            utility workers doing routine work 
                                            on the western edge of the site 
                                            found remains in an abandoned 
                                            manhole. Officials have said the 
                                            manhole had been paved over and 
                                            forgotten when a service road was 
                                            built there during excavation of the 
                                            trade center's rubble.
                                            After the discovery, city 
                                            officials identified about 10 more 
                                            manholes and pockets under the road 
                                            and ordered them to be excavated 
                                            immediately and sifted for remains.
                                            The work involves tearing up 
                                            parts of side streets, exploring the 
                                            rooftops of selected buildings near 
                                            the 16-acre site and excavating more 
                                            manholes beyond the dozen the city 
                                            is already exploring.
                                            Crews digging into a dozen 
                                            manholes along the service road 
                                            should tear it up because more 
                                            remains could be beneath it, said 
                                            Norman Siegel, a lawyer for the 
                                            families. A grass-covered area near 
                                            ongoing construction of a subway 
                                            line on the site also needs to be 
                                            searched, he said.
                                            Deputy Mayor Edward Skyler, who 
                                            is overseeing a renewed search for 
                                            remains, has said that area will be 
                                            examined.
                                            Two high-ranking officials 
                                            involved in recovery work after the 
                                            attacks told The Associated Press 
                                            that the area in question was on one 
                                            end of a road that carried equipment 
                                            into the site.
                                            Steel from the trade center had 
                                            pierced a retaining wall at that 
                                            spot, making it impossible to 
                                            completely dig up the area around it 
                                            by the time the recovery process 
                                            ended, said the officials, who spoke 
                                            on condition of anonymity because 
                                            they were not authorized to speak 
                                            about the recovery process.
                                            Searches at ground zero continued 
                                            Thursday. Although no new victims 
                                            have been identified from the recent 
                                            finds, the city medical examiner's 
                                            office said this week that remains 
                                            were identified for three more 
                                            victims after the families submitted 
                                            additional DNA samples to the 
                                            medical examiner's lab.
                                            That means 1,601 of the 2,749 
                                            victims in New York have been 
                                            identified, including Karen Martin 
                                            of Danvers, Mass., a flight 
                                            attendant on the plane that crashed 
                                            into the north tower.
                                            Martin's cousin, Michelle Pare, 
                                            said Thursday news of the recovery 
                                            was "bittersweet."
                                            "We thought she just 
                                            disintegrated _ her body did _ not 
                                            her memory," said Pare. "Now it's a 
                                            bigger relief. We really have her."
                                            ___
                                            Associated Press writers Sara 
                                            Kugler in New York and Karen Testa 
                                            in Boston contributed to this 
                                            report.
 
                                        
                                
                                        Blaze 
                                        kills daughter of 9/11 pilot 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        DAILY NEWS | December 6, 2006 
                                        HELEN KENNEDY and BILL HUTCHINSON
                                        
                                        Tragedy struck a 9/11 family for a 
                                        second time when the daughter of one of 
                                        the hijacked pilots was killed in a 
                                        suspicious blaze in New Jersey 
                                        yesterday. 
                                         
                                        Wendy Burlingame, 32, and her two 
                                        dogs died when flames ripped through her 
                                        10th-floor apartment in Guttenberg, 
                                        Hudson County.  
                                        Burlingame was the daughter of 
                                        American Airlines pilot Charles (Chick) 
                                        Burlingame, whose plane crashed into the 
                                        Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.  
                                        "It's just an extreme tragedy," said 
                                        Tim Sumner, who knew Wendy Burlingame 
                                        from the 9/11 Families survivor group. 
                                        "It's an amazing blow to that family."
                                        
                                        
                                        Wendy Burlingame's aunt, Debra 
                                        Burlingame, a member of the World Trade 
                                        Center Memorial Foundation board, was 
                                        too heartbroken to speak last night.  
                                        The fire broke out about 12:30 a.m. 
                                        in the Galaxy Towers apartment 
                                        Burlingame shared with her fiancé, Kevin 
                                        Roderick.  
                                        Neighbors said Burlingame moved into 
                                        the apartment overlooking the Hudson 
                                        River about a month ago. Roderick 
                                        escaped the fire.  
                                        Firefighters battled the stubborn 
                                        blaze for about three hours before 
                                        bringing it under control. Firefighters 
                                        found Burlingame's body in a hallway 
                                        between the kitchen and a bedroom, 
                                        investigators said.  
                                        "It is suspicious at this point 
                                        because the cause and origin have not 
                                        been established," Hudson County 
                                        Prosecutor Edward De Fazio said.  
                                        De Fazio said the fire damaged 
                                        neighboring apartments. A neighbor 
                                        reported hearing a commotion coming from 
                                        Burlingame's apartment just before the 
                                        fire alarms in the building sounded.
                                        
                                       
                      
Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand 
Down on 9/11 
Former Transportation Secretary Disputes 9/11 
Commission Report Timetable for Dick Cheney and Reveals Lynn Cheney Was Also in 
PEOC Bunker Before Attack 
Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007 
      Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered 
      questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony 
      before the 9/11 Commission report.
      Mineta says Vice President Cheney was "absolutely" already 
      there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential 
      Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed 
      shocked to learn that the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not 
      arrived there until 9:58-- after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that 
      Mineta definitively contradicted.  
      Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the 
      PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of 
      other staff. 
 
      
      
      Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, 
      though it was omitted in their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:  
      
        “During the time that the airplane was coming into the 
        Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice 
        President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when 
        it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the 
        vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President 
        turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still 
        stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?
      
      Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying 
      "When I overheard something about 'the orders still stand' and so, what I 
      thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something 
      down."  
      Norman Mineta made it clear to reporters-- who verified 
      his quotes in written text alongside him-- that Mineta was indeed talking 
      about a stand down order not to shoot down hijacked aircraft 
      headed for the Pentagon.
      After no shoot down took place, it became clear that 
      Cheney intended to keep NORAD fighter jets from responding-- 
      evidence that Cheney is guilty of treason, not negligence for allowing the 
      Pentagon to be hit. 



 
  
    
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       The idea that "the order still stands" matches up with 
      a change in NORAD and Pentagon orders-- 
      issued on June 1, 2001, only months before 9/11. The 
      document revoked the default standing orders to shoot down errant or 
      hijacked aircraft and instructed them instead to stand down until they 
      were given orders by the President, Vice President or Secretary of 
      Defense.  
      
      
      SEE ALSO: Did Dick Cheney Lie About His 9/11 Whereabouts? 
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       Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was 
      reported down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.  
      "I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville 
      plane going down, the Vice President was right across from me, and I said, 
      'Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?' He said, 'I don't know.' He 
      said, 'Let's find out.' So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That 
      was about maybe, let's say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from the 
      DoD until probably about 12:30. And they said, 'No, we didn't do it.'" 
       
      Of course, 
      
      Donald Rumsfeld has stated before that the plane over Shanksville 
      was "shot down," though whether it was a mistatement or a 
      freudian slip of the truth is arguable. It certainly would seem that the 
      story presented in
      
      United 93-- a dramatized account of the official government 
      story-- is much, much less plausible than the plane simply being shot 
      down.   | 
    
  
 
  
    
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       Norman Mineta's Testimony Before the 9/11 
      Commission-- which was NOT included in the final report and which DISPUTES 
      the Commission's timetable for Vice President Dick Cheney on 9/11   
      Also, the two hour time delay is suspicious given the 
      Vice President's own account of the dedicated video communications 
      available that morning, 
      
      as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the Press on September 16, 
      2001. 
      
        "We had access, secured communications with Air Force 
        One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the 
        secure videoconference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, 
        Justice, Defense--a very useful and valuable facility. We have the 
        counterterrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position 
        to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make 
        decisions in terms of acting with it." 
       
      At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta 
      is in gross contradiction to the 9/11 Commission Report and poses serious 
      questions about the Vice President's role in ordering NORAD to stand down 
      on 9/11.  | 
    
  
 
FROM: http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/06/26/norman-mineta-confirms-that-dick-cheney-ordered-stand-down-on-911/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jonesreport.com%2Farticles%2F260607_mineta.html&frame=true
 
 
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  Government Insider Says Bush
  Authorized 911 Attacks
  From Thomas Buyea
  9-17-4
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        - Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being 
        interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff. 
 
        -   
 
        - Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole 
        (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This 
        courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his 
        life, to get this information out to people. 
 
        -   
 
        - The following is from his latest visit to Alex 
        Jones' radio show. 
 
        -   
 
        - Forwarded with Compliments of Free Voice of America 
        (FVOA): Accurate News and Interesting Commentary for Amerika's Huddled 
        Masses Yearning to Breathe Free. 
 
        -   
 
        - Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his 
        life so that we may know the truth of 9/11. 
 
        -   
 
        - The Bush Junta Unmasked 
 
        -   
 
        - "This (9/11) was all planned. This was a 
        government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He 
        personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass 
        murder." --Stanley Hilton 
 
      
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          - Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney 
          for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit 
 
          -   
 
          - Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 
          Transcription by 'RatCat' 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's 
          chief of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents 
          hundreds of the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for 
          involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers 
          think the government was involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 
          35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great 
          to have you on with us. 
 
          -   
 
          - SH: Glad to be on. 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the 
          next hour, but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've 
          deposed a lot of military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just 
          in a nutshell, what is your case alleging? 
 
          -   
 
          - SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets 
          Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all 
          involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen 
          but in actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to 
          happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as 
          eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in 
          order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda 
          on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle 
          East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school 
          with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 
          60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know 
          these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of 
          the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to 
          turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a 
          bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the 
          planning at least 35 years. 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian 
          followers of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up 
          here in America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people and 
          you've got your $7 million dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the 
          victim's families involved. 
 
          -   
 
          - SH: 7 billion, 7 billion 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the 
          new and incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?
          
 
          -   
 
          - SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' 
          class action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and 
          the basic three arguments are they violated the Constitution by 
          ordering this event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent 
          Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented 
          false and fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war 
          authorization. And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that 
          Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies. 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got 
          to break. Let's come back and get into the evidence. BREAK 
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 
          10th, 2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up 
          tomorrow. It's an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's 
          former chief of staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to 
          school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn 
          America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's 
          suing the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of 
          the victims' families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And 
          he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in 
          Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. 
          Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's get into 
          the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being harassed 
          by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been 
          blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious. 
          Stanley, tell us all about it. 
 
          -   
 
          - SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, 
          Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only 
          allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained 
          and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were 
          U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and 
          the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. 
          Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And 
          this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by 
          George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, 
          documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just 
          incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact 
          is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there 
          were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested 
          and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos showed that 
          Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he 
          listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this 
          was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed this many 
          times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a 
          Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when 
          he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack the 
          first tower." And that could not be possible because there was no 
          video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So 
          this was a personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them 
          under the Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as 
          under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent 
          claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for 
          political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the 
          Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity. And 
          I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court 
          who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick 
          me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by 
          the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been 
          broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.
          
 
          -   
 
          - AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five 
          separate drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - 
          which you told us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. 
          They were trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you 
          interviewed military people who were told it was a drill that morning. 
          Then to get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, 
          we've learned that all these operations - I want to get into that, I 
          want to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and 
          how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling 
          this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't 
          release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment 
          are you going through? SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in 
          San Francisco several months ago. Files were gone through and some 
          files were seized - particularly the ones dealing with the lady that 
          was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies 
          in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more 
          significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff members 
          and threatening them with vague but frightening threats of indicting 
          them. And it's just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an 
          undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently discovered. 
          In other words, these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of 
          government you have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
          
 
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          - AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief 
          of staff. We'll come back after this quick break. Please stay with us. 
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          - AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the 
          second hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's 
          former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars 
          for carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. 
          During the break, I first really did the big interview with Stanley 
          Hilton after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got 
          massive attention. And then he kind of went underground for a while 
          because a judge, we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do 
          any more interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his 
          office broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has 
          deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was 
          a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a 
          piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD 
          stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton 
          has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. 
          And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's 
          got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the 
          University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government could 
          use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the 
          time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just did 
          his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was ordered 
          to. Stanley, can you get into that for us? 
 
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          - SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in 
          March of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks 
          after that, I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the 
          federal court where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to 
          publicize it but to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And 
          it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got on the 
          air on some programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened 
          directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline. 
          This particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the other 
          federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to try 
          and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years with 
          no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And her 
          assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on July 
          1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They handed 
          me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to dismiss 
          this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This is 
          politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I represented 
          more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case? And 
          they threatened me directly and they said, "the next time you'll be 
          disciplined." And also they've threatened me not to go public, etc. 
          And this is just outrageous. 
 
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                  - AJ: It's all color of law. No direct 
                  orders, just all in your face. 
 
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                  - SH: They sent a letter out, and of course 
                  they deny it's because of the political content of the suit 
                  but they told me directly on the phone that it is because of 
                  this suit and this judge is very, very angry, apparently has 
                  been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department. I got a 
                  call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about 
                  this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions 
                  and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it. AJ: Now let's 
                  go back over, you had them break into your office, harassment. 
                  Let's go over that in detail. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: My office was broken into about 6 
                  months ago. The file cabinets - it was obvious they had been 
                  rifled through. Files were stolen. Files dealing with this 
                  particular case and particularly with the documents I had 
                  regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at 
                  least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government 
                  as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab 
                  groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led up to the 
                  effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush 
                  administration, basically. That the entity that he called al 
                  Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff 
                  was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just part 
                  of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some of my 
                  assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just 
                  outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the 
                  obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And that's 
                  what's happening under the tremendous pressure here to just 
                  drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away. 
 
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                  - AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want 
                  you to drop. Let's talk about, without giving names, the 
                  people you deposed, what really happened, the picture you've 
                  got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were 
                  simulating this which they now admit there were simulations on 
                  that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to talk 
                  about, Stanley. 
 
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                  - SH: We have evidence both documentary as 
                  well as witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI 
                  agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials in the 
                  Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the 
                  fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 
                  before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many 
                  times. He blurted this out at a press conference in California 
                  a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the 
                  first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's 
                  not possible because there was no official video of that. 
                  There was one of the second plane not the first one. He had 
                  seen the first one. We do have some incriminating documents 
                  that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. 
                  A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there the 
                  night before - September 10th, that is 
 
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                  - AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months 
                  ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had 
                  their whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now, 
                  this is very, very important. This is a key area of this whole 
                  event. You said months before it came out on the CIA's own 
                  website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. 
                  They said there were drills that morning and exactly what 
                  happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the 
                  stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out 
                  and said yeah we were running a drill that morning. Now, we've 
                  learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these 
                  - one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually 
                  happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That's why 
                  NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've 
                  said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't 
                  get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned 
                  of this? 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: I have interviewed individuals in 
                  NORAD and the Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years 
                  ago around the time that I worked for Dole. I'm very familiar 
                  with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs, 
                  where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the 
                  Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is, 
                  yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over 
                  at least two months before September 11th. Everything was 
                  planned, the exact location 
 
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                  - AJ: But five drills that day. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought 
                  it was a drill. That's the only explanation for why he 
                  appeared nonchalant 
 
                  -   
 
                  - AJ: We also had NORAD officers and 
                  civilian air traffic controllers going, "Is this part of the 
                  exercise? Is this a drill?" 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: Yes. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, 
                  they thought it was, quote, a drill. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: That's right. That's exactly what I 
                  said long before it became public. I've known about this since 
                  earlier in March of '03, as I stated before. This was all 
                  planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush 
                  personally signed the order. He personally authorized the 
                  attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, 
                  obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge 
                  and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this 
                  country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court 
                  tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing 
                  legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly 
                  lying under oath about Paula Jones and now - look what's 
                  happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me in Duke 
                  Law School in the early `70s and it´s interesting that he got 
                  away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far 
                  worse criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody 
                  guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
                  
 
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                  - AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never 
                  heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings - said it all 
                  over television - Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And 
                  then we find out they were running all these drills that 
                  morning. Even if they weren't involved, that proves they were 
                  liars about ever hearing of such a plan. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: Well, I'm trying to take their 
                  depositions - I've been trying to take their depositions for 
                  months. They've been trying to object to it. They will have to 
                  admit they were either lying then or now. It's clearly perjury 
                  either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what they 
                  are. These are the people that we have running this government 
                  and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to 
                  claim now that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea 
                  is that nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing 
                  mentality. And how anybody considers this believable is beyond 
                  me. 
 
                  -   
 
                  - AJ: All right, now people ask how could a 
                  huge organization, how could the AWACs, how could the military 
                  let this happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course 
                  for five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you. It's real 
                  simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a half 
                  ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The military, 
                  good people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not a 
                  drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] 
                  out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to 
                  quote "do something." Our inside sources from Hilton and 
                  others say it was a stand down and they admit they will not 
                  release that under national security. Stanley? 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: Well they are going to admit it, 
                  they're going to release it in the court case because if you 
                  demand it under subpoena powers and they must release it. And 
                  part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S. because 
                  under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush 
                  Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. 
                  And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must 
                  release this information. That's why they are trying to 
                  threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, 
                  commit blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try 
                  and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these 
                  criminals and their acts of treason and mass murder.
                  
 
                  -   
 
                  - AJ: I think you need to publicly tell 
                  folks that you are not planning suicide. Would you like to 
                  tell folks that? 
 
                  -   
 
                  - SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. 
                  I've got family and I'm not planning that but I don't like the 
                  threats I'm under - but I can tell you this, it's taking a 
                  toll emotionally on me and my staff. And particularly, when 
                  you get a threat from the chief judge of your own court.
                  
 
                  -   
 
                  - AJ: Why have you decided to go public 
                  again after a year of being under the radar? SH: Because the 
                  more and more evidence that I've been adducing over a year and 
                  a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now without 
                  any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the 
                  biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I 
                  mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He 
                  makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean 
                  that's what we have - a criminal and a traitor sitting in the 
                  White House pretending he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the 
                  flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the other side of the 
                  so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing 
                  because they're afraid to speak. 
 
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                  - AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
                  
 
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 AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us 
                          for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then he's got to go into 
                          court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political 
                          scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - 
                          most of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York 
                          last week, everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus 
                          percent of them at ground zero - "I had family, I 
                          worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he 
                          called the night before and said don't go to work." 
                          You know, all of this, and then now they never had any 
                          idea - and it turns out they had all these drills - 
                          and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World 
                          Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That 
                          morning - come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought 
                          all this out on this show before it was in the 
                          mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the 
                          break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the 
                          threatening of his staff, the judge threatening him. 
                          Stanley, let's get specifically into the documents 
                          that you have now got that they have now been robbing 
                          you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies. 
                          Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into 
                          that for us - ordering 9/11? SH: National Security 
                          Council classified documents which [garbled] and it's 
                          was part of a series of documents that were involved 
                          with the drill documents. This was all planned - they 
                          had it on videotape. These planes were controlled by 
                          remote control, as I stated previously a year and a 
                          half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a 
                          computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables 
                          the ground control, the military ground control, to 
                          disable the pilot's control of the plane and to 
                          control it and to fly it directly into those towers. 
                          That's what happened. It's also a technology used on 
                          what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft 
                          drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were 
                          doing it. We are talking about National Security 
                          Council classified documents that clearly indicated 
                          that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go 
                          and this is no drill. These drills that were running 
                          were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a 
                          government operation. You wonder why these people are 
                          trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate 
                          people who have written this suit, I guess if you 
                          murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction 
                          with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush 
                          did. And if you then waste billions more on a 
                          worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got 
                          something to worry about and you want to threaten 
                          people to prevent it from coming out. 
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                          - AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not 
                          only are there dress rehearsals, they are smoke 
                          screens so the good military stands down and doesn't 
                          know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even 
                          in mainstream news, that yes these drills were going 
                          on. Yes, and some of these drills, quote, 
                          passenger-type jets were under remote control - this 
                          is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old 
                          jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago 
                          they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So 
                          since that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's 
                          the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center 
                          [bombing] where they get two retarded men who followed 
                          this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza 
                          parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the 
                          FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant 
                          goes, "You're not going to bomb the building? They go 
                          "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He tapes them to 
                          protect themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank 
                          God, didn't park it up against the column, as the FBI 
                          instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the 
                          tower - because you have to be right up against the 
                          column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing 
                          with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, 
                          who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola 
                          Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out creating 
                          their legends for this background. They're on board 
                          the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills 
                          everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then 
                          they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside 
                          sources, is that accurate? 
 
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                          - SH: It's one of the things that we 
                          are looking into - that nerve gas or something else 
                          disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure 
                          to be honest with you 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: All you know is they were 
                          government agents and they were on board and the 
                          planes were remote controlled. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Yeah, it was basically a 
                          smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings, how 
                          someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was 
                          like a classic decoy. I've got some military 
                          background. And it's called decoy. It's a decoy 
                          operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to 
                          avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are 
                          focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and 
                          saying, "Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in 
                          fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 
                          - sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty 
                          person. That's the one who authorized it. There is 
                          only one man who could have authorized this operation 
                          and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as 
                          I have been told personally at NORAD in the war 
                          control room, there is only one man who has the power 
                          to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though 
                          many believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways 
                          he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, 
                          Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush 
                          personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's 
                          going to be re-elected apparently because the media's 
                          asleep and [garbled] for Bush. AJ: Well, the media is 
                          owned by the same military industrial complex that 
                          carried out the attacks. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Yeah, the media is only 
                          interested in maintaining the official government 
                          fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs 
                          couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
                          
 
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                          - AJ: Stay there Stanley, final 
                          segment coming up. BREAK 
 
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                          - AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to 
                          these FBI agents, when you talk to these military men 
                          and women, what's their attitude? They've got to be 
                          pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know 
                          what actually happened on 9/11. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds 
                          just before a thunderstorm in the sense that they are 
                          sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at 
                          the criminal politicians who have perverted and 
                          misused the government to murder its own citizens and 
                          pursue these dubious political ends. And many of them, 
                          in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will 
                          talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena because 
                          the official party line of the government is shut up 
                          and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, 
                          they are very outraged that part of the government has 
                          done this to its own people, to its own people. I mean 
                          you have to go back to Stalin to see something - not 
                          even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to 
                          look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians 
                          for his own dubious gains. Also we've got - we have a 
                          Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if these 
                          people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the 
                          flag, it's disgusting. I wanted also to point out that 
                          the Japanese television network, Asahi, is going to be 
                          airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on September 
                          11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of 
                          weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the 
                          America media don't care so they are not going to 
                          care. But in Japan, people are very serious in 
                          interviewing me and others. And we have a website now, 
                          called deprogram.info, if more people are interested: 
                          www.deprogram.info. But the other thing, I just wanted 
                          to say that if anything happens to me - and I don't 
                          know why - because I'm being threatened here now. And 
                          it seems you can't bring a case in this country 
                          anymore against criminals in power without being 
                          threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes 
                          are pretty high when you've got a world historical 
                          level of treason and fraud by this government against 
                          it's own people. I guess this is what you have to 
                          expect. 
 
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                          - AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the 
                          new world order crowd, definitely intend to carry out 
                          more terror attacks. I know they would have carried 
                          out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've 
                          been up to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly 
                          speaking out and many others. And then their 
                          electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it 
                          now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many 
                          others who are speaking out and telling the truth. But 
                          do you think that they may carry out what they've been 
                          hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release 
                          to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a catch 
                          22, you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to 
                          get the word out on this but some government people 
                          that I've talk to say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they 
                          are going to go even more hard core and must totally 
                          try to take over." But I say regardless, they are 
                          already doing that. So what do you say to that?
                          
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Well, yeah, I think they have 
                          an agenda. They have contingency plans. I think they 
                          are laying low now because there are an increasing 
                          number of people, like myself, who are openly 
                          challenging them and accusing them of criminal 
                          conduct. I think they would have done it again if we 
                          had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what they 
                          would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why 
                          we are trying to get the Patriot Act declared 
                          unconstitutional in this lawsuit also. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the 
                          beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared, 
                          but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join 
                          him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. 
                          You are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, 
                          or figuratively jumped on the hand grenade for 
                          America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who is 
                          highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the 
                          government was involved. When you have a Canadian 
                          poll, 63% on average believe that the U.S. government 
                          was involved. And some groups, as high as 76% in polls 
                          believe the government was involved. European polls, 
                          two- thirds show the same thing. We have German 
                          defense ministers and technology ministers and another 
                          member of their government now, three of them going 
                          public, known conservatives, and progressives. You 
                          have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying 
                          that if they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what 
                          was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking 
                          person looks at the evidence, their official story is 
                          impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved 
                          in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's 
                          happening. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Well, I think that's why they 
                          want the Patriot Act to suppress political dissent. 
                          They have to, they're anticipating, they are not dumb 
                          individuals. I know these people personally, 
                          Wolfowitz. These are criminal individuals but they are 
                          smart and so they anticipated political dissent. And 
                          that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their 
                          blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're 
                          all for political repression. Every corrupt and 
                          criminal government has done this - they suppress 
                          their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao 
                          Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's 
                          hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to 
                          September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You 
                          have to do it. It was part of my senior thesis. You 
                          must follow through the terrorists attacks with a 
                          political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's 
                          why they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans 
                          are to continue launching more terrorist attacks to 
                          justify even more repression. The goal is to make this 
                          a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue 
                          their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the 
                          Saudi Royal family. And also, historical blood 
                          brothers, such as the Nazi Germany and the Communist 
                          Russian. That's the goal 
 
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                          - AJ: You've got to go in just a 
                          minute or two. But I wanted to also tell you about New 
                          York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're 
                          against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, 
                          accredited media being arrested randomly. Children 
                          being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus 
                          people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with 
                          no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the 
                          porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing 
                          to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the 
                          precedent for martial law. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Well, that's right, the word 
                          terrorist is now being overly broad and overly defined 
                          [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word 
                          communist was used for anything during the McCarthy 
                          witch hunt. And anybody can be called a terrorist by 
                          Bush's definition. But the irony is that the number 
                          one terrorist in the world is living at the White 
                          House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. 
                          For sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world 
                          prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It 
                          or Not, and the Guinness book of world records for 
                          sheer brazen chicanery and fraud. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: Let me ask you a question on 
                          this because this is the experience that I had. 
                          Watching television, watching the killers, watching 
                          those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors 
                          is incredibly painful. It's like watching Ted Bundy 
                          being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is just 
                          painful to know who these people are. To see them 
                          putting America in a shredder. Now we are going to 
                          have forced psychological testing of every American, 
                          forced drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean 
                          it's just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.
                          
 
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                          - SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and 
                          as one who has studied the theory and concept of 
                          dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, 
                          who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him 
                          in 1981 in Munich. And I've studied the psychology and 
                          history of totalitarianism and there is no question 
                          that it's very frightening. And it has, today, with 
                          high technology, albeit for the first time in history, 
                          the chance of having a world empire dominated by 
                          corrupt, technologically oriented government - an 
                          elite government. And they've got now what people like 
                          Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which is the 
                          technological means to dominate not only their own 
                          country but others - the world. 
 
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                          - AJ: The answer is to expose them 
                          as the terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project for the 
                          New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl 
                          Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the 
                          exact 9/11-style attacks, to show their own plans. And 
                          to force people to face this horror. What are they 
                          going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half 
                          of us, know the truth? 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Well, that's why they want 
                          repression and, then again, the ancient old diversion, 
                          launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch 
                          it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean 
                          their capacity for ingenious creation of these events 
                          is sort of unraveled. I mean there is no limit. My 
                          guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a 
                          stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush 
                          reelected. Although it seems like he is running 
                          against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, 
                          my guess is they'll try some other tactic to get 
                          people's attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too 
                          much attention. What you really want is for the public 
                          to just lose interest because the public - and it's 
                          like remember the Alamo, you know, people don't forget 
                          things like that. To me it's like the Alamo, remember 
                          9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous 
                          act of treason. That's what it is. It's not
                          
 
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                          - AJ: We are at a crossroads, I 
                          don't think they anticipated this much resistance, 
                          Stanley. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly 
                          wrong and as incompetent as they are corrupt and 
                          guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only 
                          by their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, 
                          if enough people are going to get outraged enough, 
                          these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil 
                          service and our military, and eventually we can get 
                          people under subpoena these individuals will be 
                          exposed. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: Stanley, their whole operation 
                          hinges on us being naïve and not recognizing evil. 
                          This is what they got with Hitler and others. People 
                          couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat 
                          succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time. We 
                          are putting our lives, our treasure, our future on the 
                          line for freedom because we cannot let these 
                          blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and 
                          use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft 
                          and use us as their slaves to invade the planet. And 
                          that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've 
                          got to get to court. God bless you. I want to thank 
                          you for being here with us today. Can we get you back 
                          on next week? 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: Sure, just give me a call.
                          
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: God bless you my friend. Any 
                          closing comments? 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: My closing comments would be, 
                          I think people ought to just think about the 
                          consequence of having someone like Bush in the White 
                          House and the danger for the future that these sorts 
                          of individuals pose. This is not just a historical 
                          event of the past. This is part of the plan and the 
                          camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These 
                          individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed 
                          and dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat 
                          to every freedom-loving person not only American but 
                          in the whole world. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: You are absolutely right 
                          Stanley Hilton. They have captured the government. 
                          They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are 
                          counting on us not facing up to it. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: And they are counting on the 
                          repressive Patriot Act and threats and chief judges 
                          and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing 
                          them. That's what they are counting on. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: But you're not backing down 
                          are you, my friend. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: No, I'm not 
 
                          -   
 
                          - AJ: Well, we all stand with you, 
                          my brother, and God bless you. 
 
                          -   
 
                          - SH: All right. Thank you.
                          
 
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                          - To hear Alex's interview with 
                          Stanley Hilton - 
 
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                          http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm
  
                        
            
                          
                       
                  
                   
                
                
              
            
            
          
          
  
        
       
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
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