The Pope's Visit to Temple Mount  
and the Third Secret of Fatima
Will Pope Benedict XVI Be Assassinated?

by Joseph E. Mason
(Based partly on the works of Thomas Jude Germinario)

I am preparing to visit Israel, a land which is holy for Christians as well as Jews,
since the roots of our faith are to be found there. Indeed, the Church draws its
sustenance from the root of that good olive tree, the people of Israel, into which
have been grafted the wild olive branches of the Gentiles.

                                                                                                                 Pope Benedict XVI


Saint Peter and the Popes have become major subjects in our expanded dream research, which includes many fields, including ancient numbers and crop circle formations.

My understanding of that subject and other subjects has been greatly deepened by the writings of Thomas Jude (T.J.) Germinario. In my opinion, he is one of the greatest interpreters of our time. His latest writing is about the upcoming visit of Pope Benedict XVI to Israel. The time and planed events of his visit fit symbolically well with the "Third Secret of Fatima."

Taken at face value, one might conclude that the Pope will be assassinated or severely injured at Temple Mount. But, that is not the interpretation of T.J. or myself. It is a good bet that the visit will cause controversy and perhaps trouble. My feeling is that the event is significantly symbolic, and that we may see clues to support that theory.

The situation is worrisome because the prophecies of Saint Malachy indicate that Pope Benedict XVI may be the last Pope or that the next Pope (possibly the Anti-Pope, Peter the Roman) will be the last. The prophecies of Nostradamus may apply, because many are about the Popes.

T.J., has a great website at --

Apokalypso - Millennium Prophecies and Jubilee

He also wrote a wonderfully informative book --

Apokalypso - Prophecies of the End of Time

This is the text of T.J.'s new missive --

The Third Secret of Fatima Revealed?

The upcoming trip of Pope Benedict XVI to Israel is likely to shed considerable light on the meaning of two enigmatic prophecies – one that dates back to the Middle Ages and the other that is less than a century old. I am speaking, of course, about the two interlaced prophecies concerning the Papacy that occupied most of my attention in the first Apokalypso volume, Prophecies of the End of Time: St. Malachy’s 12th Century visions of future Popes, and the Third Secret of Fatima revealed to Portuguese shepherdess Lucia dos Santos in 1917.

As for St. Malachy’s prophecies, they were published over four centuries ago, and their content, if not their authenticity, is not in dispute. Malachy O’Morgair Archbishop of Armagh was summoned to Rome to confer with Pope Innocent II in 1137. Upon catching his first glimpse of the Eternal City (so the story goes) he fell into a trance, in which he saw a parade of 108 Pontiffs, beginning with Pope Innocent’s successor and ending with last Pope, Peter II. In Malachy’s vision, each Pope had a unique epithet or motto. Over the intervening years, these epithets have proven uncannily prescient, and they all seem to have several layers of meaning.

As discussed in my 2005 update, entitled “The Glory of the Olive Tree, Revisited”, the motto for Pope Benedict XVI, Gloria olivae, can be interpreted on several levels. Most obvious is the link to the name Benedict itself, since the olive tree is a symbol of the Benedictine order. On a deeper level, the epithet relates to Israel, and more particularly to the Temple of Solomon, in which the “Glory of Israel” was thought to abide. Within the Temple itself, the Glory resided in the innermost sanctuary, the so-called “Holy of Holies”, where no one but the High Priest could enter.

Within the Temple’s “Holy of Holies” was a large rock which the Jews call the Eben Shetiyyah, or “foundation stone”, because it’s considered to be the foundation on which the Earth was created. Jewish, Christian and Moslem traditions have all taught that this rock marks the “center of the World”, a center that was associated with the emblem of the Cross long before the crucifixion of Jesus. The same traditions identify this stone as the site of the altar that Noah raised when he left the Ark. God’s Covenant with Noah, which unites Judaism, Christianity and Islam, is symbolized by the sign of the celestial Bow. In the Jewish festival of Lag b’Omer, arrows are customarily fired into the air as a reminder of the Bow of that Covenant. According to Jewish legend, the age of the Messiah will open on the date of Lag b’Omer, and the reappearance of the Bow in its full splendor will augur the Messiah’s appearance.

The “Glory of the Olive Tree” – which is to say, “The Glory of Israel” – also relates to the Ark of the Covenant, which rested on top of the Shetiyyah stone in the Holy of Holies in Solomon’s Temple. The Ark of the Covenant was so named because it contained the tablets that Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai. In 1 Samuel 4:22, the capture of the Ark by the Philistines was lamented in these words: “The glory has departed from Israel, for the ark of God is taken.” Shortly before the Babylonians destroyed Solomon’s Temple in 586 BC, the Ark of the Covenant was hidden by the Jewish High Priest, supposedly in a deep cavern beneath the Shetiyyah stone.

When the Second Temple was built after the Babylonian exile, the Ark of the Covenant was not found, but the Eben Shetiyyah remained to mark the location of the Holy of Holies. When the Roman destroyed the Temple again in 70 AD, nothing was left but the outer walls below the Temple Mount that still exist today. But on the Temple Mount itself, the foundation stone remained. In the 7th Century, the “Rock” would become one of Islam’s most sacred sites as the spot from which the Prophet Mohammed was said to have ascended into heaven. When the Moslems conquered Jerusalem, they built the Dome of the Rock mosque around the Eben Shetiyyah and also constructed the nearby Al Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount.

Getting back to the Pope’s visit to Israel, he will generally be following an itinerary similar to that of John Paul’s visit in 2000. But there is one very significant difference. Benedict, unlike John Paul, will visit the Dome of the Rock, the very site to which his motto Gloria olivae applies. Not only that, but his visit to the Dome of the Rock will be on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, which is the day of the bow-and-arrow festival of Lag b’Omer. And the next day, May 13th, is the feast of Our Lady of Fatima. Which brings us back to the content of the Third Secret.

Unlike Malachy’s prophecies, the Third Secret remains somewhat of a mystery. When Our Lady appeared to Lucia and her two companions in July 1917, she showed the three children a series of visions, culminating in one of a “Bishop dressed in White” being assassinated beneath a large Cross at the summit of a mountain by soldiers firing bullets and arrows. After the visions, Our Lady explained their meaning to the children, but asked that the last part of her explanation be kept secret. In 1944 Lucia wrote the secret on a single sheet of paper and placed it in a sealed envelope entrusted it to the Bishop of Fatima for delivery to the Pope, with instructions that it be opened and disclosed to the World in the year 1960. This document came to be known as the Third Secret of Fatima.

While the Vatican claims to have disclosed the Third Secret in June 2000, what was actually revealed was Lucia’s account of the vision of the “Bishop dressed in White”, not the explanatory narrative of Our Lady. Instead, the Vatican supplied its own interpretation of the Fatima Vision, which was written by then-Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI. According to his analysis, the Vision was simply a premonition of the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in St. Peter’s Square on May 13, 1981 – and nothing more. Since his interpretation neglects the obvious inconsistency that John Paul, unlike the Pope of the Vision, survived the shooting, it has become increasingly discredited among Fatima scholars. Another defect in the “official explanation” is that it doesn’t even attempt to address is the anachronistic arrows that are fired at the Pope in the Fatima Vision.

But ironically, the scenario of Benedict’s visit to the Dome of the Rock on May 12, 2009, actually matches the Fatima Vision much better than the attempt on the life of his predecessor. He will ascend to the summit of the Temple Mount, to the Dome of the Rock which marks the symbolic Cross of the World’s center (and was surmounted by an actual Cross during the Crusaders’ occupation of Jerusalem), on a date marked by the ritual shooting of arrows. The Fatima Vision also has the Pope ascending the mountain after witnessing scenes of horrific carnage. According to Benedict’s itinerary, he will witness precisely such scenes in Jerusalem’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial the day before he visits the Dome of the Rock.

Does all this mean that Benedict is the “Bishop dressed in White” of the Fatima Vision? Does it mean he’s destined to be assassinated on the Temple Mount on May 12th? I think not. As I explain in the third chapter of Prophecies of the End of Time, the Bishop of the Vision must be the last Pope, Malachy’s “Peter of Rome”. Yet the strikingly coincidental alignment of timing and events for the Pope’s visit of May 12th does suggest that something remarkable will occur, something which will shed new light on the meaning of both the Third Secret and Benedict’s “Glory of the Olive Tree” epithet.

Do we have any clues as to what this occurrence might involve? Certainly, the Temple Mount is not only the center of the World, but also its most vulnerable and volatile piece of real estate. For example, during the recent Passover holiday, Israeli extremists threatened to hold Jewish prayer services in the Al Aqsa mosque and actually forced their way into the mosque’s courtyard. Religious fanatics, including a former Israeli chief rabbi, have suggested destroying the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa and building a Third Temple on the site. Others have urged that the Temple Mount be opened up to archaeological excavations in search of the lost Ark of the Covenant. And, as I outlined in my 2005 update, the Vatican has its own agenda for the Temple Mount, as it aspires to become the custodian of Jerusalem’s sacred sites under some future Middle East peace agreement.

An “incident” on the Temple Mount might provide a pretext for Israeli security forces to take control of the Temple Mount – a step, perhaps, in the direction of “relocating” the Moslem holy sites and/or sanctioning archaeological digs. Such an incident might also lead to some form of international supervision over the Temple Mount, with eager Vatican participation. In either case, the risks associated with these gambits are enormous, with Armageddon quite literally in the offing.

Although the nature of the incident on the Temple Mount is uncertain, it’s aftermath is sure to involve massive disinformation and deception. As I explain in my first book, arrows are frequently featured in scriptural imagery as metaphors for lies and calumnies. If something does go amiss during the Pope’s visit to the Dome of the Rock, we can be sure that there will emerge a convenient “villain” against whom the wrath of righteous indignation can be directed by an orchestrated campaign of slanders.

When the clouds propaganda finally part, however, we may arrive at a clearer idea of what the Third Secret of Fatima actually says and what it actually asks of the Catholic Church and its Pontiff. Benedict XVI, who as a Cardinal was so instrumental in down-playing the significance of the Fatima revelations, may through a bizarre twist of fate become an instrument of finally fulfilling Our Lady’s directives.

Dee's Mariah Dream

About a month after I read the above article, Dee had a dream that I eventually felt is related. Dee did not read the article or know about the Pope's planned visit to Israel. It is quite common for Dee to dream of things she knows nothing about. When she awoke from her dream, this thought came into her head very strongly --

They call the wind Mariah!

Dee and I discussed the possible interpretations of the dream over a period of several hours. Then, suddenly, I recalled T.J.'s article and remembered reading that Mount Mariah is where the Temple Mount is located!

Subj: The picture blew me away
Date: 4/27/2009 5:38:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Dee777

Hi: all. I tripped over the photograph while I was looking for something else.

The coincidence of the tracks on the tank were EXACTLY like the tire treads on the car my ex-husband was driving. I mean EXACTLY.


4-27-09 - DREAM - I was in a house somewhere, marking off an object into squares so that each square could be copied individually into another object exactly like it. The squares were about 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch. I remember the object as a swan sitting on a clutch of eggs - although it was flat like a plate.

I was then told it would cost $34,000 to have this done. That didn't sound unreasonable to me.

I must have sold the duplicate or the original because all of a sudden I had money and I was going to put half of the money into one bank and the other half into another bank. I didn't yet have accounts in either bank, and expected the bank to open an account for me when they got my check which was from a third bank.

My husband Ed and I then drove somewhere in a strange looking parking lot in our old car. The cars were all huge honkers - like from the 40's, and Ed drove up behind an old car and took something out of it from the rear, so it must have been a station wagon.. He then backed up the car into a different spot and made it look like we were just getting there when the other people arrived back at their car so they wouldn't think we were the ones who had taken the object.

The only problem was, our tires were so distinctive, there was no way they couldn't recognize that it was out car. Our tires looked like tractor tires with very distinctive grooves in them, plus between the grooves were large rectangles embedded in the tires. These marks were on the ground in front of the car, and Ed was told by a guy next to us that he should put dirt over the tire tracks so it wouldn't look like we had backed into the space - because the tire marks were in front of the tires - not behind them. So, Ed moved the dirt around in front of the tires so it looked like we had driven into the space from behind it. (I have no idea what he took from the car)


We then went home and Ed and I were sitting in the livingroom, and Ed was wanting some money to buy something, and I said to him, 'You are going to get a job aren't you?" He kind of grumbled something in response that might have been, "Yeah!" or something.

Just then I heard a baby crying behind his chair, and I said, "I hear my name being called!" and smiled at him. I looked behind his chair and saw two babies laying on the floor wrapped in blankets. One was a girl - the one who was crying, and next to her was a dark-haired boy baby, who was not crying. So, I went over and picked up the girl baby and cradled her to my chest.

In my mind, I was thinking, that these were the objects that I had had copied originally, and now they were my babies.

A woman walked into the room and we had a conversation about $10,000 she was going to give me. I waved my left hand in the air, and showed her a huge diamond ring I had on my ring finger. She was happy about seeing the ring because it was worth a lot of money.

I then heard it raining and I looked outside through the window, and saw two people standing there in ugly green uniforms. It again looked like it was the 40's, and the people were equally the same age - about 40 years old or so. The woman was very large in girth.. They were standing and waiting to be in a parade, and were standing in front of a huge fountain that was spouting water in every direction from around its base - and again it looked like the swan sitting on clutch of eggs.

I rather laughed to myself because they thought it was raining and were getting wet, when it actually was the spray from the fountain and they didn't realize it.

I woke up and the thought came into my head very strongly, "They call the wind Mariah!" - a male choir Kinigston Trio Frankie Lane Sam Cooke

In the song it says, the girl is called Tess and the boy is called Joe. The rain is Tess, the fire is Joe. Mariah blows the stars around. It also says, I was born under a wandering star.

[Joe's note -- The "wandering star" song is actually a separate song in the same play/movie, Paint Your Wagon" ]

The Age of Aquarius - the constellation Aquarius is called 'The water bearer".

The four directions the wind come from is the same as the 4 living creatures in the Bible.

The winds are also called, "The Winds of Change"

Long-necked, heavy-bodied, big-footed waterfowl (genus Cygnus, family Anatidae). Among waterfowl, swans are the largest and fastest, both swimming and flying; at about 50 lbs (23 kg), the mute swan (C. olor) is the heaviest flying bird. Swans dabble in shallows for aquatic plants. Five all-white, black-legged species live in the Northern Hemisphere; a black and a black-necked species live in the Southern Hemisphere. Males (cobs) and females (pens) look alike. Swans mate for life. The cob keeps guard while the pen incubates, on average, six eggs on a heap of vegetation; the young (cygnets) are tended for several months. Their graceful form when swimming has made swans emblems of beauty for centuries.

The constellation Cygnus

Leda and the Swan - A Mythological Dream - Da Vinci - Michelangelo ...

Oct 10, 2006 ... That is Leda and the Swan. There is symbolism in the paintings of the time. People back then knew how to read paintings - every one told a ...

CONSTELLATIONS - Coma Berenices - Spiderman - The Swan Aug 23, 2006 ... Suddenly, the swan dipped his whole head into her mouth and pulled out her heart and ... ...


Nov 7, 2008 ... Leda and the Swan .... the divine impregnation of a mortal woman—first, the rape of Leda by Zeus; later, the immaculate conception of Mary. ...

NOTE: I haven't yet figured out what the tax man means - except the thought was, the tax man cometh (and that will be true to pay back on the money the banks were given so far.

Our kids are going to be paying for that long after we are gone - no doubt.


Note: The cost $34,000 in Dee's dream may suggest the 17 and 153 Pope connections (see below) because --

34000 = 2000 x 17
34000 / 153 = 222.2222222

Money in dreams, myths, and religions can indicate karma or judgment. See the "Extra Data" section below, for the article, "Why Study Metrology." Karma seems to be more of a learning experience, rather than a reward/punishment system.

The Third Secret of Fatima
Excerpt from:

The Third Part of the Secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on July 13, 1917.

I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.


This is a lot of controversy about the Third Secret. Many feel that the official Vatican version is incomplete or misleading.

The Great Temple Mount Fear

Certain groups of Jewish and Christian fundamentalists want to tear down the Dome of the Rock and other Islamic structures on Temple Mount, in order to build a Third Temple where Solomon's Temple once stood.

Excerpts from --

To Christian fundamentalists, however, the book is all about the last days, when the Antichrist will deceive the world, fool the Jews into thinking that he’s their Messiah, and defile the Third Temple. The Third Temple needs to be built so that the Antichrist can defile it and so that the rest of the prophecies, including the annihilation of the vast majority of Jews, the conversion of the survivors, and the Second Coming of Jesus, will come to pass.

Meanwhile, Muslim fundamentalists are closely watching their Jewish and Christian counterparts. These fundamentalists have an apocalyptic narrative of their own, a narrative equally focused on the Temple Mount.

According to sources such as these, humanity will become ever more corrupt until, in the final days, a false Messiah will arise to conquer the world. This figure, known as Al-Masih al-Dajjal or the Antichrist, will be a Jew who will lead an army of his brethren from the east. He’ll eventually be defeated by Jesus, or perhaps by the Muslim redeemer known as the Madhi, in a battle near Jerusalem. After this, the dead will rise and be judged in the valley of Jehosafat next to Jerusalem’s walls.

This literature was largely ignored in the Arab world until 1967, when Israel thoroughly trounced the Arab forces arrayed against it. That defeat discredited secularism among many Arabs, and apocalyptic beliefs gained ground as people turned to religion to make sense of their humiliation. Such beliefs are becoming increasingly common in Muslim culture. For example, Egyptian writer Sa’id Ayyub’s 1987 book, Al-Masih al-Dajjal, spawned a genre of Islamic apocalyptic literature that’s every bit as popular in the Arab world as the Left Behind series is in the West. These books identify the Jewish Messiah with the Antichrist, and argue that his servants will soon destroy the Dome of the Rock in order to build the Third Temple.

The government of Israel and most people are not fundamentalist, and wish to avoid conflicts. But, there is a keen sensitivity when it comes to events at Temple Mount. There is reason for great fear anytime an important event takes place at that location.

The Fatima Event
Extraterrestrials and the Ancient Number 153

In 1917 three children in Fatima, Portugal saw visions of the Virgin Mary. She was to appear on the 13th day of the month for six consecutive months, starting on May 13th and ending on October 13th. The final event was perhaps the most miraculous event in history, witnessed by some 70,000 people. The event is known as the Miracle of the Sun.

I have known of these events for some forty years. But it was only about two years ago (2007) that I used an on-line calculator to figure out the number of days between the dates. Incredibly, it came to 153 days! That number is quite famous in ancient history and appears in the Bible as the 153 fish in the net story told in John 21. Because of its special properties, the number 153 is called by some, the Resurrection Number. The triangular number 17 is related because the numbers 1 through 17 add to 153.

Information about these subjects is included below, along with geometric and crop circle connections.

In 1982, two Portuguese scholars published a book about the Fatima events, after researching the subject for six years. The evidence strongly suggests that the events involved "Extraterrestrial Intervention."

The book was revised in 1995, and more recently, published in English.

The implications are staggering. Other "miraculous" events throughout history must now be examined in the same light. The religions of the world probably all started with "miraculous" events, including apparitions and visionary experiences of various types.

The questions beg for an answers-- who is really behind such events and what is the purpose?

Many think that the so-called, "extraterrestrials," are actually extra dimensional. Perhaps they are from parallel universes, or the dream world or the spirit world or the collective unconscious.

Other questions arise out of the various strange phenomena in modern times, such as the UFO/ET and crop circle types. They appear to be related to other phenomena, such as dreams, visions, apparitions, coincidences, inspired works, and symbolic events.

Will "religious" beliefs be effected? If so, how will our world change as a result?

I think there is a good chance that the answers to some of these questions may be answered in our time. We now have an incredible wealth of information growing at a fast pace at our fingertips. This includes the dreams of the people, which I believe is the key , the Rosetta Stone, to all the answers.

Background Information
Saint Peter as the Seed of Life in the Crop Circles

Over the years many, many corp circle formations have appeared that relate to the geometry of the Flower of Life series. This includes the Vesica Piscis, the Seed of Life, the Tree of Life, and Metatron's Cube. I will cover a sampling of the subject here.

The four images below, from top-left to bottom-right, are the Seed of Life, the Flower of Life, Metatron's Cube, and the Tree of Life --

Image credits: Charles Gilchrist & Drunvalo Melchizedek

There was a suggestion of the Seed of Life in 1991 as the North glyph of the Barbury Castle pictogram --

Around 4 August 1994, a perfect Seed of Life type crop circle formation appeared at Froxfield, near Hungerfield, Hampshire. It was called by some, "The Foxfield Flower" --

The farmer who owned the field told an investigator that a UFO had appeared over the field in 1993. The UFO was composed of circles and rings. Oddly, the farmer thought the crop circle was a hoax.

In 1997 the Tree of Life appeared as a crop circle formation --

There is a very long list of formations with similar geometry. In a number of cases, certain formation do not appear to be the same geometry, until the underlying pattern is displayed. An interesting example is the formation that looked like tall buildings --

The 2006 Crop Circle Formations

The Biblical Saint Peter and 153 Connection

Around 1996, I learned about the geometry suggested in the Biblical story of the 153 Fish in the Net. The Seed of Life is a part of it --


In the last chapter of John's gospel, we find the story of the 153 fish in the unbroken net. This is a gematria puzzle of considerable complexity. To illustrate the point of the story, we will reproduce its key elements.

a. Peter enters the boat, then six follow him (John 21:2-3)

The Greek gematria value of Simon Peter is 1925. If a circle of 1925 circumference is drawn to represent Peter, then it can be filled with six similar circles representing the others. Each circle touches the center and the perimeter. Then a circle is drawn around all seven circles. Its diameter is 1224, which is the gematria value of "fishes" and "the net".

b. Jesus tells the men to cast the net from the other side of the net. (John 21:6)

The net is drawn from the side of the first large circle which represents the boat. Another arc is drawn which now creates the "vesica piscis": the measure of the fish. A large rhomboid fish is drawn into the right piscis.

c. Peter is naked. He wraps his fisher's coat around him, and jumps into the water from the other side of the boat. (John 21:7)

Another piscis is drawn on the other side, with Peter's circle in it to represent Peter in the water. The height of the piscis is 1060, which is the gematria value of "fisher's coat." A four by four net is drawn inside the large fish, and now we find the 153 fish. Each small "fish" has a width of 153, and there are a total of 17 fish: 16 small and one large. 153 is the sum of the numbers from 1 to 17.

d. For extended meanings, we now rotate the diagram so that the net is on the bottom and Peter is on the top.

We now have a diagram of the Gnostic cosmos as described by Plato in Timaeus. The net in the sea represents the shifting world of manifestation, where everything is in a state of flux and nothing forever remains the same. The upper world, the world of gods and first principles, is the Intelligible world: all of the universal laws on which manifestation is based. The middle world of Humanity partakes of both spirit and matter, the eternal and the temporal.


From: Jesus Christ, Son of God
by David Fideler

The Symbolism of Apollo at Delphi

Image: Ancient coin showing Apollo setting upon the Omphalos Stone

This diagram of the 153 fishes in the net is earlier than Christianity and is associated with the symbolism of Apollo at Delphi. Apollo is the earlier Greek personification of the Logos, the universal mediator, and it is ultimately from the mathematical symbolism of Apollo, the god of harmony, that both the diagrams of the 153 fish in the net and the feeding of the five thousand originate. Both of these diagrams are ultimately based on the numerical value of square root of 2 (1.415), the mathematical symbol of the ideal mean between unity and multiplicity, which is reflected in the title THE GOD APOLLO, 1415.

In the Christian version of John 21, the "foundation stone" of the geometry is the central circle of SIMON PETROS, 1925, the omphalos of Christianity, whose number determines the dimensions of the entire diagram. In this Christian adaptation, we start with "the omphalos" to arrive at the symbol of "the net". Likewise, in the earlier symbolism of Apollo, his omphalos at Delphi was covered with a net, symbolizing the veil of manifestation, woven from the central source of harmony. In the earlier version, the central circle symbolizes the omphalos at Delphi, the meeting point of heaven and earth, "the golden mean" of Apollo, The number 153 also figures in Delphic symbolism, for 1530 is the sum of DELPHI, 619, and OMPHALOS, 911.

Finally, if we draw a circle around the three worlds diagram, (above) the all-encompassing sphere has the measure of 7690, and 769, is the value of PYTHIOS, Apollo at Delphi. 

When Christianity began, the center represents Simon Petros as the omphalos, "the foundation stone" of Christianity. 

Figure 51: The Relationship between the 153 Fish in the Net and the Feeding of the Five Thousand.

This illustration shows how the mathematical progression illustrated in the previous diagram underlies the dimensions of the fish in the net geometry and the feeding of the five thousand. Both diagrams are thereby shown to be differing expressions of the same, underlying cosmological code.

The central figure is a vesica with a width of 1x the square root of 2 (1.415 = THE GOD APOLLO), which defines the diameter of the feeding of the five thousand geometry on the right. 

The height of the central vesica measures 1 x the square root of 2 x the square root of 3 (2.448 = FISHES IN THE NET), which defines the height of the 153 fishes in the net geometry on the left.

In the diagram on the left, the rhombus intersects the length of the vesica in the upper world, dividing it into three equal segments of 353 units, the value of HERMES. This represents "Thrice-Great Hermes" or Hermes Trimegistos, a personification of the Logos. 

153 as the measure of "the Fish in Archimedes

Archimedes (c 287-212 B.C.E.), in his treatise On the Measurement of the Cycle, uses the whole number ratio 153:265 to accurately approximate the irrational ratio square root of 3, "the measure of the fish" or the vesica piscis. Moreover, Archimedes uses this value in such a manner as to suggest that this approximation was well know to his contemporaries: it required no word of explanation at all.

This ratio, 153:265, precisely relates to the dimensions of the 153 "fish" in the unbroken net, for it defines the height and width of each rhombus in "the net." Figure 52.  Since 153 was known in the time of Archimedes as "the measure of the fish" or the vesica, ancient readers skilled mathematics would have immediately recognized the allegory of the 153 fish in the net for what is it: a geometrical "story problem." 

A crop circle formation appeared around 10 July 2005, at Chalfont St Peter, near Rickmansworth, Oxfordshire, that is like a triple Seed of Life type --

Given the geometry and the place name -- Chalfont St Peter -- the "Pope" connection seemed to be confirmed.

Around 20 July 2008, this crop circle appeared at Hillside Farm, near Lockeridge, Wiltshire --

Note that the geometry is quite similar to the three circles in the 153 Fish in the Net story, above. Also see --

The Great Pyramid and the 153 Fish in the Net

The Dome of the Rock Crop Circle Formation
and the Knights Templar Connection

Around 17 August 2007, a crop circle appeared at Woodborough Hill, Wiltshire, that contained an eight-pointed star within it. I had a series of "coincidental" experiences with that type of star in 1990 (also see this page). I recognized also that beyond the eight-pointed star was the suggestion of the double-boxes type image, which was also quite familiar. It relates to the Sufi concept of "The Breath of the Compassionate," showing how the reality is created in each moment.

The referenced crop circle is the upper left image, below (credit: Lucy Pringle).

Because of studies at the time, I recognized that the pattern fit quite well with the design of the Dome of the Rock on Temple Mount in Jerusalem (the upper right image, below). The building of the structure was completed in 691 AD.

I colorized the lower right image to bring out the star and boxes. I did the same with the crop circle in the lower left image.

The crop circle is a "dumbbell" type, which is quite common in simple forms. Those types often have small rectangular boxes on either side of the pathway between circles. Sometimes there are two rectangles and sometimes there are four. In the latter case, there is evidence of the "coincidental" kind, that the double pair of rectangles indicate the "11:11 phenomena." See --

In this case, the two sets of rectangular areas beside the pathway are not of the same length, and the longer ones have rounded areas at the ends.

Around the year 1118, some 427 years after the Dome of the Rock was built, nine Knights Templars from France took up residence in the nearby Al-Aqsa Mosque. This started a grand mystery of great controversy that is still with us today. As a result of Dan Brown's  fictional book and film, The Da Vinci Code, based on the earlier non-fiction work, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail,  most of the world is now familiar with the subject.

One of the controversies revolves around the excavations below the Temple Mount area by the Knights Templar. It is thought that they found a great treasure of some kind, and brought it back to France. Some think the treasure was the Holy Grail or the Arc of the Covenant. Others think it was some kind of important knowledge, perhaps a finding that supports the theory that Jesus was married with children who's bloodline still exists.

A less noticed theory, which is important to me, is that the Templars learned a great deal of esoteric knowledge from the Sufi, an Islamic group that came into being around the year 900 A.D. The teachings seem to incorporate "The Perennial Religion." This page about sanctuaries contains some information about the Templar's association with Sufi mysticism --

There is a well known Templar Seal, showing two knights on one horse --

The back side of some of the Templar Seals have the image of the Dome of the Rock, or one of the other structures on Temple Mount (the right image, above). I felt that this might be a clue or confirmation about the nature of the esoteric knowledge, i.e., from the Islamic Sufi.

In my nineteen year dream-coincidence quest, I have found many connections between various Perennial Religions and dreams. The symbols and meanings of both sources fit with the crop circle phenomena. The major three religions of the West, all of which seem to focus on Jerusalem, have mystical offshoots. These offshoots connect in certain ways with the religions of the East, as well as shamanic based belief systems, such as the Native American tribes.

The three great religions of the West have sects with mystical esoteric connections. With Islam it is Sufism. With Judaism it is Kabbalism. With Christianity and others it is Gnosticism, or Esoteric Christianity. All of these mystical offshoots have further subdivisions or sects, just as with the major religions.

The common connections between the mystical groups is dreams and visions. We are seeing the same type of information now, in dreams, crop circles, inspired works, ET/UFO events, symbolic events, and the like. All seem to come out of the collective unconscious.

Events seem to unfold like a script from the collective unconscious. I am wondering if the Pope's visit to the Holy Land will be some pivotal junction in this grand stage play Earth.

Around 2000 years ago, Jesus visited the Temple, leading to vast changes in the world.

In recent times, another man visited Temple Mount, which certainly had large consequences.

Al-Aqsa Intifada

In the year 2000, an event happened at Temple Mount that started a string of events that led to the deaths of some 6,500 people. This is now known as the Al-Aqsa Intifada or Second Intifada.

The events were touched off by the visit of Israeli General, Ariel Sharon, and his group to Temple Mount. The visit sparked a seven-year uprising by the Palestinians.

Sharon was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 2001, and served until 2006, when he suffered a stroke and fell into a coma

153 Related Events

T.J. Germinario pointed out in his article, that the number 17, which is related to the "Pope" number 153, appeared in a prophesied event. The prophecy is in Nostradamus Quatrain 92 Century Five --

After the see has been held for seventeen years,
It will change hands five times in a comparable period of time:
Then one will be elected at the same time [as another],
Who will not be too much in conformity with the Romans.

According to T.J. --

Pope Pius XI held the Keys of St. Peter for exactly seventeen years from February 11, 1922 to February 11, 1939.

One example of the number 153 in an event involves baseball, a very symbolic game. During the World Series baseball game on October 17, 1989, in San Francisco, a big earthquake took place. Years later, I learned that the baseball movie, "Field of Dreams," came out in 1989, and that --

1989 = 153 x 13

Three years ago, a modern day prophet had visionary experiences about the date of October 17, 2006. When I received this information, I instantly realized that the date was seventeen years after the 1989 World Series earthquake. In the summer of 2006, a crop circle formation appeared that had seventeen spikes --

A series of coincidences happened about these things --

10-17-06 - Something Important Happened

At one point, I calculated the days between October 17, 1989 and October 17, 2006. I saw that it was just short of 888 weeks. The number 888 is associated with Jesus in Greek Gematria. The number 8880 is a feature of the 153 Fish in the Net story, as a distance around the Sea of Tiberius (Sea of Galilee). The diameter is 2448, which is 16 x 153.

Using the on-line calculator, I figured 888 weeks after the World Series earthquake (October 17, 1989), would fall on October 24, 2006.

I speculated that something symbolic might occur on that date, but it came and went without anything notable happening. I learned later that something did happen that day. I noted --

888 Week, 153 Day Miracle Baby

On 20 February 2007, I watched a news report about a "miracle baby" born on 24 October 2006. Her name is Amillia Sonja Taylor. She was born 21 weeks and six days after conception

Months prior to the birth, I had made a post about the date, 24 October 2006. That day was 888 weeks after the World Series earthquake of 1989.

I was astonished when I realized that 21 weeks and six days is 153 days!

Amillia Sonja Taylor - Zimbio

The New Jerusalem 153 Connection

I mentioned above that the diameter of the Sea of Tiberius is 2448. Half that amount (1224) is the diameter of the circle drawn around all seven circles in the Seed of Life illustration above. These numbers are evenly divisible by 153.

The Greek Gematria value of 1224 is figured from the Greek words for FISHES and THE NET.

The New Jerusalem plan or design contains various ancient numbers, including 12240 and 31680. The number 3168 in Greek Gematria equates to "Lord Jesus Christ."

I found that the number 12240 is also within the design, as the diameter.

Each of the twelve smaller circles represent the Moon, as well as the "pearls" described in Revelation 21. The Moon circles all touch the Earth circle inside. The diameter of the Moon circles are each figured as 2160 miles. The diameter of the Earth circle is figured at 7920 miles. Therefore, the distance across is --

2160 + 7920 + 2160 = 12240 (which is 153 x 80)

Pope Dreams

People sometimes have dreams that include the Pope or related subjects. Two such dreams became part of this article --

The Next Pope - The Anti-Pope - The Hanged Man

You will find some others by following this search.


My feeling, based on my dream-coincidence research, is that the coming events in Israel will dovetail with some of the overall theories presented on our web site. The most prominent, in my view, is that humanity has been in a cycle of time that corresponds to the chakra levels, that we are near the midpoint and the leap to the heart chakra. See --

Humanity on the Pollen Path

Chakra System Crop Circle Formation

This involves a duality balance, a return of the feminine, and the symbolism of sacred marriage.

During the time cycle in the lower three chakras, we have been unconscious co-creators. As the leap to the heart chakra is achieved, we will become conscious co-creators, symbolized by Lion King and Royal Power.

Through this, humanity will eventually create a more ideal world, corresponding to the New Jerusalem.

I think the churches and the Popes will continue, but interpretations will be updated, so-to-speak, to incorporate the new knowledge pouring in as the Age of Aquarius begins. The "end" of the churches and Popes will be in the sense of "authority." People generally will be guided from within, rather than through the dictates of authorities from church and state.

More information will be added to this article before and after the Pope's visit to Israel. There is also some extra data below.


The Secrets of the Dome of the Rock
The Academy of Jerusalem

The Whole City is a Temple

The Symbolism and Spiritual Significance of the Number 153

The Great Pyramid and the 153 Fish in the Net

17 Fish - The Bible and the Stars

Sacred Geometry - Flower of Life

10-17-06 - Something Important Happened

The Da Vinci Code Crop Circle

Miracles or Mass Hallucinations?

The Number 153 - Wikipedia

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Extra Data

English Alphanumerics 153
(thanks to my "Code" friends)

A B C D E F G H  I   J   K   L   M   N   O  P  Q   R   S  T   U   V   W  X   Y   Z
1 2  3  4  5 6  7 8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Quetzalcoatl 17 + 21 + 5 + 20 + 26 + 1 + 12 + 3 + 15 + 1 + 20 + 12 = 153

The 20 + 8 + 5 = 33
Golden 7 + 15 + 12 + 4 + 5 + 14 = 57
Ratio 18 + 1 + 20 + 9 + 15 = 63
The Golden Ratio 33 + 57 + 63 = 153

Why Study Metrology?

One of the central ideas of ancient metrology is explained by the much read and little understood Fifth Book of Aristotle's Ethics, in which the idea of justice is explained by referring to money and to the price structure.

This book explains why money is called by the same name that applies to civil law and to natural law (nomos) and why this term is synonymous with arithmos; metrology first developed as an attempt to assure justice in the contract of sale by mathematizing the relation.

The origins of the art of legislation and of legal science are to be found in lists that state how many measures of a given commodity would correspond to a measure of another commodity.

Once one takes this practical outlook, one can see how, in the Bible, the idea of Divine Providence is linked with the methods used in the rationing of food, of which Greek inscriptions provide the most abundant evidence.

Once one keeps in mind the metrological aspects of the idea of Providence, one can see the meaning of the word epiousios in the Lord's Prayer, a word on the interpretation of which an entire library has been written.

One must keep in mind the ethical aspects of metrology to see in the Gospels the metrological reasons for the two miracles of the multiplication of the bread, the Feeding of the Four Thousand and the Feeding of the Five Thousand.

In metrology, one must steadily shift from metaphysical and ethical presuppositions to practical aspects. This has been the concern of Greaves and Bernard, who came to metrology from the study of cosmogony but at the same time travelled extensively in the Orient and saw the ancient system of metrology still used by the Arabs.

Pope Benedict XVI is associated with the olive, via the words of the Saint Malachy prophecy --

Glory of the Olives

The Olive

Olive trees became central to my quest around 1992. Around 1994, I found that the olive is an important symbol in Islam --

Excerpted from --

The Verse of Light from the Quran 24:35:

God is the Light of the heavens and the earth;
the likeness of His Light is as a niche
wherein is a lamp
(the lamp in a glass,
the glass as it were a glittering star)
kindled from a Blessed Tree,
an olive that is neither of the East nor of the West,
whose oil wellnigh would shine, even if no fire touched it;

Light upon Light.

I read "The Verse Of Light" in the book, Sufi, Expressions of the Mystic Quest, by Laleh Bakhtiar. There was also an interpretation:

This psychic structure of the soul has been expressed by Ghazali in an esoteric commentary upon the Verse of Light (Quran 24:35).

The niche, as a place of gathering of both sound and light in the outer world, is also a place of gathering inwardly for all sensory perceptions. A focus point, an aperture in the wall, it symbolizes the first inner aspect of the soul, common sense.

The glass symbolizes the second, imagination, which like glass is part of the materiality of this world and has a definite dimension; like glass in is making, imagination is at first opaque to the light of the Intellect which transcends direction, quality, and distance. Once the imagination is clarified and refined, it gains a similarity to the Active Intellect, or spiritual Heart, and becomes transparent to the light, just as a glass is needed to protect the candlelight from being dissipated by the wind, so the imagination is needed to control intellectual knowledge and hold the images together.

The third symbol, that of the light-giving lamp, is related to the intelligence (that is, the thinking function or the function of will), for it is this faculty which recognizes the Archetypes or Divine Names and Qualities.

The function of meditation (formed by memory) and reflection is symbolized by the fourth symbol, the tree. Meditation begins with a thought and branches out into others; its conclusions become seeds producing the further growth of thought. The tree is not a fruit tree but the olive tree, the oil of which feeds the lamps; and as opposed to other oils, the oil of the olive increases radiance.

This is not any tree, any meditation, but rather meditation upon that 'which is neither of the East nor the West'.

The fifth symbol, the oil, relates to the faculty that is sacred within the human form, the spiritual Heart, or Active Imagination, or Active Intellect: the Spirit of God within us.

Existing in potential in all human beings, it is actualized and made luminous in but a very few. For most people, the acquisition of knowledge must come from without. The active Intellect, on the other hand, is self-luminous with no external source: the oil which 'would shine, even if no fire touched it'.

Thus the psyche (the inner senses) is just one part of a larger totality of the feminine principle or soul, incorporating the outer senses, which moves on the mystic Quest towards spiritual becoming and union with the Spirit. It is in this phase of the journey that one meets with the jinn, the psychic forces within.

They constantly intrude with temptations and inclinations which one must actively put aside, or, once again, one will be hindered from continuing the journey.

(end of excerpt)


The green color of the olive may relate to the heart chakra, which is said to be green in color.

The color green was apparent in the Milk Hill Mega Glyph crop circle formation, via the alphanumerics of the 409 circles (credit Norma Smith) --

GREEN adds to 49 (G = 7, R = 18, E = 5, E = 5, N = 14)

360 + 49 = 409

Milk Hill Crop Glyph

The formation is a Seed of Life type in the closed aperture mode. It is the sixth sphere of the Tree of Life and corresponds to the heart chakra. It will open like an aperture to become a twelve petal lotus, when humanity reaches that stage. See --

The Da Vinci Code Crop Circle

Chakra System Crop Circle Formation

The next part has references to the Bible. I am not a "believer," but my dream-coincidence experiences indicate that the religions are part of the "script" of our "stage play" reality in this cycle of time. In this sense, it does not matter how much of the religious material is historically "true." I am trying to find the real meaning of the "script."

On 3/13/2009, Winifred sent an e-mail from 27 Mar 2002 (see below). The first was subject titled, THE ROYAL ARCH, and the second, THE SECOND TEMPLE. The topic included information about Zerubbabel, who rebuilt Solomon's Temple. He called a Council in which he presided as King. Also attending was Jeshua as High Priest, and Haggai as Scribe, or principle officer of State.

Zerubbabel and Jeshua (or Joshua) are the two olive trees of Zechariah 3, 4, and Revelation 11. They are the two anointed (as were the other Kings and High Priests). They are the lampstands who stand on each side of the golden bowl with seven lamps.

The olive oil pours out of two golden pipes beside the branches.

These two stand up in Revelation 11:11, after three and a half days of being dead. This relates to the universal elementary idea of the "three and a half" midpoint of the seven chakras.

Humanity On The Pollen Path

This, I believe, is the major reason that people are seeing 11:11 all over the world, along with the ending of the Mayan calendar at 11:11 AM Universal time on December 21, 2012. See --

Earth's Seasons - Equinoxes, Solstices 2000-2020

11:11 coincidences - Google Search

2012 11:11 AM - Google Search

These are the key verses -

Zechariah 3: Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him.

Zechariah 4:1-3: Then the angel who was speaking with me returned and roused me, as a man who is awakened from his sleep. He said to me, “What do you see?” And I said, “I see, and behold, a lampstand all of gold with its bowl on the top of it, and its seven lamps on it with seven spouts belonging to each of the lamps which are on the top of it; also two olive trees by it, one on the right side of the bowl and the other on its left side.”

Zechariah 4:6: Then he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel saying, ‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ says the Lord of hosts.

Zechariah 9: “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his hands will finish it.

Zechariah 11: Then I said to him, “What are these two olive trees on the right of the lampstand and on its left?” And I answered the second time and said to him, “What are the two olive branches which are beside the two golden pipes, which empty the golden oil from themselves?”

Zechariah 14: Then he said, “These are the two anointed ones who are standing by the Lord of the whole earth.”

Revelation 11:4: These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.

Revelation 11:11: But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God came into them, and they stood on their feet; and great fear fell upon those who were watching them.

Other important related verses are in the Book of Haggai --

Haggai 2:20, 21: Then the word of the Lord came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, “Speak to Zerubbabel governor of Judah, saying, ‘I am going to shake the heavens and the earth.'"

Haggai 2:23: "‘On that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, My servant,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will make you like a signet ring, for I have chosen you,’” declares the Lord of hosts.

According to Blavatsky, the Signet Ring of the Lord is the Tetragrammaton, the Four Letters of the Divine Name (YHWH), the "Father's Name" which is written on the foreheads of the 144,000 to be saved (Rev. 14:1, and Rev. 7).

It almost seems like Zerubbabel is the hero of the whole Bible. He is listed in the genealogy of Jesus Christ given in Matthew 1, which starts with Abraham. The Old Testament traces the descendants from Adam to Abraham.

My feeling is that these things actually relate to each of us. We are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Each of us will complete the building of our own house/Temples. There is also the collective level, of course, basically the New Jerusalem.

I tend to doubt that anything major will happen in 2012, other than marking a symbolic event. In any case, I think it is a very significant sign of the times.


Date: 3/13/2009 7:33:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  Winifred Barton>> (snip)

Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:22:31 -0500
From: Winifred Barton

recd from Zerubbabel

February 20/2001 - I AM ZERUBBABEL

In writing the life Zerubbabel from a Masonic point of view, it is incumbent that reference should be made to the legends as well as to the more strictly historical details of his eventful career.

With the traditions of the Royal Arch, and some other of the high degrees, Zerubbabel is not less intimately connected than is Solomon with those of Symbolic or Ancient Craft Masonry. >>

<< As soon as the pious pilgrims had arrived at Jerusalem, and taken a needful rest of seven days, a tabernacle for the temporary purposes of Divine Worship was erected near the ruins of the ancient Temple, and a Council was called, in which Zerubbabel presided as King, Jeshua as High Priest, and Haggai as Scribe, or principle officer of State. It was there determined to commence the building of the second Temple upon the same holy spot which had been occupied by the first, . . . >>

1 May 2009, 1:07 PM

Betty's dream, below, may relate to the Pope's visit. The "table top mountain" may be the Temple Mount area. An airplane is basically a cross-type shape. Snow, ice, and winter, can symbolize a chilly reception and cold hearts.

Dream of a Plane Crash

plane crash
Posted by: Betty
Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:34 pm (PDT)

Dreamed of a plane crashing on the top of a mountain last night. It was a rugged mountain like in the west. We were traveling on the highway and looked up at the mountain. It was like a table top mountain. He tried to pull up, then stalled, hit the ground flat bellied and sped through a snowbank. The pilot was still alive and it dangled precariously on a cliff edge. We were trying to get an expedition to go up the mountain to retrieve him but there were all kinds of complications and we never got there.


2 May 2009, 6:44 AM

Yesterday I joined the circle2012dreams group. My first digest came today. Below is one of the posts, a vision which fits well with the 153 Fish in the Net story. But, in this case, the Net broke and the Fish got away.


Subj: [circle2012dreams] Digest Number 2176
Date: 5/2/2009 12:50:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time

12. Dream or Reality
Posted by: maestro
Fri May 1, 2009 2:24 pm (PDT)

svasti (hail) masters of the emperial galaxies!

i am what i am, fyi qun fyi (be and it be), al hamdulli allah. sallam!

greetings and salutations to everyone, unknown and unspoken names of the emperial galactic majestries, here and now, beacons of light and darkness, bearer of the unfathomable wisdom, messengers, greetings!

shanti brothers and sisters!

with your permission, i would like to share to you my homble revelation.

when i was a small kid, i had these vission when i met an old white bearded man sitting in front of a burning bush, clothed on white robe.

he asked of me to come over and touches my chicks with his palms as greetings. he told me that i was choosen to do a task. i was choosen among my friends because i am different among the others and i must do a task. as i was standing infront of him. he placed his palms on my temple and i saw a blinding light immerging from his palms. i felt sudden fear as i stood there freezing. his smile gave me comfort, the fear was replaced by trust and obedience.

as the blinding light creeps in and starting to surounds my whole body, i heard a tick (the sound is like when you crock open an egg). almost instantaniously my fragile bones stated to break into pieces from the top of my skull to the tips of my feet.

suddenly, the shatterd bones started to assemble in reverse. i felt an insignificant forces with in me and saw that the blinding light is what became of me. again he smiled at me, then he told me i must go back to my friends.

not very long time ago i saw that same old man in the sea sore and he asked of me again to help him fish. i saw a fishing boat, a typical ordinary fishing boat. so i knew then what he's asking for so i agreed to help him fish. when we were in the middle of the sea were i can no longer see a land, there was the sun sitting on top of the waters.

the old man told me to stop rowing and we have reached the spot. then he told me not to fear and whatch the quiet waters. after that, i saw the water started to move creating a small wave reaching out to waters surounding the boat up to the sitting sun on our right side. the water changes from the golden ray of the sun set to silvery blinding light. it was the most beautiful sight i've ever saw. then i saw the faces of these innormus fishes, impossible to measure the ammount of all. i told him, "master, where should i throw the net? as i gesture to my left and right, he smiled and told me, "anywhere" as he placed his both hands out open to the sides of the boat. after i throw the nets from both sides of the boat and starting to pull.. the net started to ripe and i started to worry and looked at him smilling as the fish starting to jump in the small fishing boat. again he said, "don't be affraid", he said now we must go elsewhere. the boat started to sink down to the waters. the fishes was swimming in unisol out back to the sea like a dancing ballerinas. then i saw these gigantic sea creatures swimming around us, then he said to me, "look around you, aren't they pretty as they are, where they are? protect them, love them and save them from ruin."

these are my first revelations from the unknown worlds and dimentions.

thank you for reading. shanti!

3 May 2009, 9:10 AM

I received an e-mail  from a list that included this dream

Posted by: Tiffany
Sat May 2, 2009 9:48 am (PDT)

I had an interesting dream last night. I was forced into a marital union with someone that I didn't know. Large groups of people were around because I wasn't willing to honor that union. They brought with them, the catholic church. Or I should say the Catholic church was behind the union. The person I was supposed to be married to, was under rule of the catholic church, and gave all his money to the organization, to fulfill his will. The next thing I remember, I was sitting in a chair, hiding from all those people outside, and a sort of plague came upon me. Thousands of spiders were suddenly crawling all over my lap and my legs. I freaked out, and started jumping around and brushing them off, and they disappeared very quickly, as if nothing happened. Except one single bug was left on the floor, crawling around as if it were the only bug that was in the room. It looked like a little machine, or a little computerized bug.

The meaningful coincidences pulled together when I received an e-mail from Robert --

Subj: Re: Correction3: Attachment: A Sliver of Knowledge
Date: 4/6/2008 4:27:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Robert
To: several people

Hi All,

Remember this email of mine showing you that the date April, 19 was mentioned in two instances, associated with two past destructive events? Guess what, i found this thread at godlikeproductions.........

The Pope will be in NYC from April 15-20th, 9 days.


Pope's blood will spit in the City where two rivers ... Pope in NY


Quatrain 2.97

Roman Pontiff beware of your approaching,
Of the city where two rivers water,
Your blood you will come to spit in that place,
Both you and yours when blooms the Rose.

I think this is the first prophesy I ever came in contact, because when I was very young JPII visited NY and a friend told me The Pope will be killed in NY and she show me this Nostradamus quatrain..

Leda and the Swan
by William Butler Yeats

A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

How can those terrified vague fingers push
The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
And how can body, laid in that white rush,
But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

A shudder in the loins engenders there
The broken wall, the burning roof and tower
And Agamemnon dead.
                                     Being so caught up,
So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
Did she put on his knowledge with his power
Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?

ELFIS Letters

Issue 3, Summer '95

Dream Symbology Cosmology

Dear Editor, Some of the articles in “E.L.F.” suggest symbolic meanings in stories, films, and events. This is of great interest to me, and I have not found this in other publications. My own path led to similar conclusions.

I’ll list a few events that seem to carry dream symbolism, with a brief interpretation of the possible meaning. Each one, has a background involving actual dreams and/or coincidences, but, for brevity, I must leave that part out. [skip]

4) The “Earthquake” World Series of 1989. This is related to the Nostradamus quatrain C9 Q83, and Ezekiel’s vision of the Four Living Creatures. (Ezekiel 1:1-25 and 3:12,13) Baseball itself is symbolic; its invention was probably inspired from on high. The bases and pitcher’s mound, and the 5 players assigned to them, are a quintuplet set, as found in crop circles and ancient glyphs. They mark the points and apex of a pyramid. The outfielders and shortstop correspond to the “wheels” in Ezekiel’s vision, and to the four faces of the pyramid. The meaning seems to be the Logos of Man at the fourth/heart chakra level, the Word becoming flesh.

Here is a list of a few of the films I feel are significant in their symbolism:

A - Field of Dreams, Angels in the Outfield, A League of Their Own, and other baseball films.

The Apostles James and John
The Gematria connection between
James and John (2222) and Simon Petros (1925)

This is an excerpt from the The Apostles James and John article --

Like Simon Peter, the brothers John and James were fishermen and the gematria value of their names was connected with Simon Peter. As the above diagram shows, a circle with a circumference of 2222 units representing John and James passes through the six vertices of a hexagon enclosing Simon Peter. The 2222 circle is 99.96% of the size of the actual circle that circumscribes the hexagon.

Dee's dream with 17 in 1989

16 Feb 07, 8:06 PM




11-15-89 DREAM - -

I was walking along 17th and Clark streets with a man. I escorted him across the street talking about love and he seemed negative. I left him on the corner and went back to clear the way from the tracks so others would have easier going. I went back across the street and was now walking with a black man. Other black men were very angry and I was afraid, so I went up the stairs of a house and called 911 on the house phone on the porch. Within seconds I heard sirens, police, ambulance, and firemen then came marching along, along with the navy, army, airforce, and marines. I really felt protected.

I met my father and asked him if I could have the key to our house. He acted like I didn't belong there anymore and he said, "No!" I could feel my blood sugar dropping so I asked him if he would go with me and give me something to eat. He hesitated and then said, "No!" He then offered to buy me a cup of coffee at a restaurant. I knew that would make it worse in the long run, but I was getting desperate and woke up.

13 March 2008, 4:04 PM

I should have checked this out before. The days between the 1917 events at Fatima were 153.

The time period is said to be for six consecutive months. That is probably why I didn't think that it was actually five months.


1-4-03, 6:52 AM

On January 2, I read a printout of one of the pages of, that I printed out
on May 18, 02. Simon Peter, and the numbers 17 and 153 are part of the article.

“The Bones of the Triumvir”

    – on the theme of St. Peter’s tomb in the prophecies of Nostradamus

It’s well known that Nostradamus scrambled the order of the stanzas in his Centuries. To truly comprehend the prognoses of the Provençal physician, therefore, we must seek to restore the lost order of the Quatrains. My own preferred approach to this task is to “track” a specific theme through the Centuries, picking up on those Quatrains that appear to refer to related events. We can then assume that these related verses were grouped together in the Prophet’s original rendering.


Based on the historical record, therefore, it’s quite likely that St. Peter’s interment beneath the main alter of the Roman basilica that bears his name is a fraud, a fabrication out of the same whole cloth as the so-called “Donation of Constantine”, and probably of the same vintage. As the fiction of Constantine’s bequest of Rome’s imperial power to Pope Sylvester was used to validate the Papacy’s claim to supreme temporal authority, so was the illusory throne of Peter deployed to establish Rome’s spiritual sway. The Donation of Constantine was finally exposed as a rank forgery in the 16th Century during Nostradamus’ own lifetime. It appears that the Prophet viewed this revelation as foreshadowing a parallel exposé in our own time, perhaps involving the authenticity of St.

Peter’s tomb. Nostradamus saw the religious wars of his day as symptomatic of the weakening of Rome’s secular and spiritual hegemony in the Western world. Projecting the Vatican’s historical decline into the future, the French Seer envisioned the devastating crisis that would enfold Roman Catholicism at the turn of the Third Millennium.

Nostradamus’ vision of a abrupt, unexpected disintegration of the Holy See in our times is consistent with the 12th Century prophecy of St. Malachy, insofar as the latter indicates that Pope John Paul II will have only two successors, and that one of those will be an Antipope. Later, in the 19th and 20th Century, the same warning of an impending “eclipse” of the Catholic Church was repeated in ecstatic apparitions of the Blessed Virgin, the most notable of which occurred in La Salette, France, in 1846, and Fatima, Portugal, in 1917. What’s particularly intriguing about Malachy’s prophecy, especially in the context of our discussion, is his reference to the last Pope as “Peter the Roman”.

This designation implies that the 21st Century Pope Peter will be distinguishable from his First Century counterpart because the former will truly be a Roman, while the latter was not. In this regard, Malachy’s vision points to a much needed renewal of the Catholic priesthood, based upon the genuine martyrdom of “Peter the Roman” rather than the spurious tradition of Simon the Fisherman.


With this background, let’s turn now to consider how the theme of St. Peter’s supposed Vatican tomb plays out in the Centuries of Nostradamus. Granting that the good Doctor “shuffled the deck” vis-à-vis the order of his Quatrains, still it’s unlikely that the current numbering is totally random. For example, the Prophet could hardly have overlooked the significance of the 66th Quatrain in Century VI, corresponding as it did to the ill-famed number of the Beast, 666. So let’s start our hunt at that point:

At the foundation of the new sect,
The bones of the great Roman will be found,
A sepulcher covered in marble will appear,
Earthquake in April, buried evil.


This one is from my file:


At the foundation of the new sect,
The bones of the great Roman will be found,
A sepulchre covered by marble will appear,
Earth to quake in April poorly buried.


Thus far, all the pieces seem to fit nicely. But several nagging question still remain. Who was the “great Roman” whose bones were enclosed in Constantine’s marble mausoleum? And what are we to make of the “buried evil” referred to in the stanza’s final line? If we search for other stanzas in which the words “bones” and “marble” both appear, we find only one, the 7th Quatrain in Century V:

The bones of the Triumvir will be found,
Searching deep for an enigmatic treasure:
The peace of those around this cavity of marble
and metallic lead will be disturbed.


The fact that Pius XI was assassinated, and that his subsequent burial precipitated the Vatican’s search for St. Peter’s tomb, casts a new layer of meaning on another of Nostradamus’ prophecies. Again, the Prophet highlights the importance of this particular stanza by assigning it a highly recognizable number – 3.65, the sixty-fifth Quatrain in Century III.

When the sepulcher of the great Roman is found, The day after a new Pontiff will be elected:

Scarcely will the Conclave have approved the new Pope [His predecessor] poisoned, his blood in the sacred chalice.

It’s rather obvious that the “sepulcher of the great Roman” in Quatrain 3.65 is the same as the marble sepulcher in which the “bones of the great Roman” are said to be found in Quatrain 6.66. It’s also quite plausible that the “sacred chalice” envisioned here refers to the Holy Grail, which was the “enigmatic treasure” alluded to in Quatrain 5.7.

We might speculate further that the murder of Pius XI – a murder enacted in the interests of fascism and with the apparent complicity of Vatican insiders – relates to the “buried evil” spoken of in Quatrain 6.66.

Because Pius XI was assassinated on the anniversary of his papal coronation, his reign lasted exactly 17 years. It happens that the number 17 has a particular relevance to the theme of St. Peter. In the last chapter of John’s gospel, the resurrected Christ appoints Simon Peter to shepherd His flock until He return. Before doing this, however, Jesus instructs the Fisherman to cast his net for a prodigious catch of fish, numbering 153.

Adding up the numbers from 1 to 17, we find the sum is 153.

The prophetic significance of the number 153 apparently relates to the succession of Popes who trace their authority to St. Peter. In that context, the 153rd Pontiff was Leo IX (1049-1054), who initiated the so-called “Reform Papacy” of the 11th Century. While the Reform movement was ostensibly aimed at rooting out corruption within the Church, it’s principal thrust was the concentration of power in the hands of the Pope and his circle of Cardinals. As we mentioned earlier, this was the era in which the dogma of a celibate priesthood was imposed. It was also the period during which the Papacy took on the trappings of a temporal monarchy, including the appropriation of the imperial purple vestments worn by the Roman Caesars. In this regard, critics of the Vatican’s absolutism have frequently invoked the image of the purple-arrayed harlot of Babylon in Chapter 17 of the book of Revelation – another instance in which the number 17 strangely prefigures the Papacy’s approaching apocalyptic crisis.

The ominous import to the Vatican of the number 17 and its derivative 153 was evidently not lost on Nostradamus. In the 92nd Quatrain of Century Five, he very clearly refers to the assassination of Pius XI as setting off a sequence of calamitous events, the consequences of which are only now becoming apparent.

After the see has been held for seventeen years,
It will change hands five times in a comparable period of time:
Then one will be elected at the same time [as another],
Who will not be too much in conformity with the Romans.


From my file:


After the seat has been held seventeen years,
Five will change within such a period:
Then one will be elected at the same time,
Who to the Romans will not be too agreeable.


Pope Pius XI held the Keys of St. Peter for exactly seventeen years from February 11, 1922 to February 11, 1939. During the two decades beginning with the last year of his successor's reign, there were five occupants of the Papal throne, beginning with Pius XII, who died in October 1958, followed by John XXIII (1958 - 1963), Paul VI (1963 - 1978), John Paul I (Aug.-Sept.1978), and finally John Paul II, elected on October 16, 1978. The latter, being the first non-Italian Pope in over four-and-a-half centuries, is often identified by Nostradamus’ modern interpreters as the one who is “not too much in conformity with the Romans”. But a more careful reading of this stanza suggests that the French Prophet is instead referring to the Pope who will be elected after the reign of Polish Pontiff.

Interpreted in this manner, this Quatrain also conforms to St. Malachy’s prediction that John Paul II would have a pair of successors, both elected “at the same time”, one of whom would be an Antipope.

Historically, Antipopes have been associated with disputed papal elections in which two candidates both claim victory. Thus, the last true Pope, Malachy’s “Peter the Roman”, will be elected “at the same time” as another candidate, an Antipope who will also claim the papal throne. St. Malachy calls this Antipope “the Glory of the Olive Tree”. Since the Olive Tree typically appears in Scripture as a symbol of the Jewish people, Malachy’s prophecy clearly suggests that the Antipope will be a Jew who has converted to Catholicism. In this sense, he will be the diabolical mirror-image of Peter the Roman, who, despite his epithet, will be break sharply with the conformity of the Roman priesthood by seeking to restore it to its Jewish roots.

It appears, therefore, that the next – and last – genuine Pope will take the name Peter. Since the Roman Pontificate was supposedly initiated by the Apostle Peter, one might expect that the name Peter would have been chosen by many previous Popes. But it’s a curious fact that not one of the 260-odd Catholic Pontiffs elected to date has opted to honor the great Fisherman by assuming his name. Why? St. Malachy’s prediction that Peter would be the last Pope doesn’t explain it, since more than 160 Popes had shunned the name of the great Apostle before Malachy ever received his vision in 1140 AD.

Moreover, Malachy’s list of future Popes was kept hidden in the Vatican archives until its first publication in 1559 (in time, by the way, for Nostradamus to have read them while he was completing his own prophecies). So why should all of the 220 Popes enthroned before the publication of Malachy’s list have avoided using the name of the alleged founder of their line? Given the consistency of this pattern, one would have to assume that this unwritten taboo is deeply ingrained in the Church hierarchy. One might also interpret this odd aversion for Peter’s name as an implicit acknowledgment of the spurious character of the Papacy’s Petrine legacy.

Be that as it may, the choice of the name Peter by a newly elected Pope would constitute nothing short of an act of outright rebellion against the Vatican hierarchy. It would signal the intent of the part of the new Pontiff to radically transform the Catholic priesthood, to literally rebuild the Church on a new foundation. Instead of the foundation of falsehood, whose emblem is the bogus tomb of St. Peter, the last Pope would lay down a foundation of Truth. But to do so would necessarily expose the mountain of lies upon which the power of the Roman hierarchy rests.

This mountain of lies appears symbolically in the last of the three visions revealed by the Virgin Mary at Fatima in 1917. In that vision, a future Pope is seen ascending a steep mountain, followed by a priesthood consisting of both men and women. At the top of the mountain, they are fired upon by soldiers surrounding a large Cross made of the trunks of oak trees. Mountaintop oak groves are, of course, notorious in the Jewish Scriptures as sites of idolatrous worship of such abominations as Baal and Moloch. It’s also noteworthy that the soldiers in the Fatima vision shoot arrows at the Pope and his entourage. Scriptural imagery, particularly in the Book of Psalms, often employs arrows as a metaphor for the tongues of the wicked seeking to defame the Righteous. This tells us that the reactionary crusade to unseat Pope Peter will involve both physical violence and a vicious campaign of lies aimed at vilifying him.


Note: Baal is Bel, Lord, Belmarkuke, Enki, Apollo.


Not surprisingly, the aspersed blood of purification which figures so prominently in the Fatima vision also crops up in the visions of Nostradamus. The 98th Quatrain of his Second Century, describes this corresponding vision:

The one whose face is sprinkled with blood
Of the victim recently sacrificed:
Jupiter in Leo, foreseeing through an omen:
[One] put to death then for the sake of the Bride.


From my file:


The one whose face is splattered with the blood
Of the victim nearly sacrificed:
Jupiter in Leon, omen through presage:
To be put to death then for the bride.


In Catholic theology, the Church is the Bride of Christ. So here we have another prophetic rendering of the passion of a martyred Pope, who will lay down his life to restore the virtue of this “Bride”. By doing so, he will forever dissolve the absolute monarchy of the Holy See and establish himself as the founding “St. Peter” of a cleansed Church. Our Provençal astrologer predicts that these events will unfold when the planet Jupiter is passing through the Zodiac sign of Leo, the Lion. The next time Jupiter will be transiting Leo is the period from August 2002 to August 2003.

Elsewhere in his Centuries, Nostradamus envisions an apocalyptic crisis involving the Roman Catholic clergy. The crisis that he prophesies appears to bear all the earmarks of the one now beginning to unfold in our times. If that’s so, then the good Doctor’s prognosis clearly points toward a bloody reckoning:

The blood of the Church people will be poured out,
In as great abundance as water:
And for a long time it will not be stanched,
Woe, woe to the clergy, ruin and complaints.

We read the foregoing lines in Quatrain 8.98. While the Prophet “shuffled the deck” pretty thoroughly, even the best shuffle leaves some “cards” in their original order.

Consequently, we find a few instances in which two sequential Quatrains are obviously meant to be read together. And this is one of them. If we go on to Quatrain 8.99, we encounter a further elaboration of the outcome of the Vatican’s current crisis:

As a consequence of the power of the three temporal Kings,
The Holy See will be relocated to another place:
Where the reality of the spirit endowed with a physical body
Will be restored and recognized as the true See.

Insofar as Nostradamus foresees the restored Church relocating its seat away from Rome, he’s in accord with the visions of the 19th Century Catholic prophetess, the Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich. Anticipating a future schism in the Church, Anne Emmerich foretold that the true Pope would be forced to flee Rome, which would become the seat of a “dark, counterfeit church”. But, if we look closer at the last stanza, Nostradamus seems to be predicting something more than the a mere geographical shift in the Holy See. In a most physician-like way, he refers in the third line to the visceral unity of the Spirit and the Body. It’s almost as if he knew that the Church’s denial of the reality – and, yes, even the divinity – of the Body would become the source of its undoing. Quite astoundingly, he foresees that, with the translation of the Church’s physical location, will come a corresponding shift in its theological paradigms. When the Church is reborn, therefore, it will rediscover that human sexuality is not something to be hidden and denied, but rather that it is the sacred energy that enlivens the Spirit. To rediscover this particular truth, Catholicism – and, indeed, Christianity in general – must also rediscover its roots in Jewish mysticism, as revealed in the teachings of the Kabbalah.


Continuing with the scenario laid out in the Epistle, we read of a series of world events that will coincide with this crisis in Catholicism. Among these events is a military assault on the “habitation of Abraham”, which corresponds to the modern city of Hebron in Palestine. Hebron was in fact assaulted by Israeli forces while this article was being written (April-May 2002). Another current event to which Nostradamus refers is the desecration of a venerated tomb in the Biblical town of Shechem. That town is now known as Nablus, and it was indeed the site of shameful desecration of the tomb of the Jewish Patriarch Joseph by an Arab mob during the early stages of the current Palestinian uprising in October 2000.

With the intervention of the secular authorities in the internal affairs of the Church will come not only the plundering of the Vatican’s assets but also a forfeiture of the hierarchy’s power. Those who refuse to fall into line with the domination of the Holy See by the “three temporal Kings” will be mercilessly persecuted.

"It will seem that God has loosed Satan from his infernal prison to give birth to the great Dog and Doham, who will make such an abominable schism within the Church that the cardinals and bishops will find themselves blinded and impotent, not knowing what to make of it all, and they will be stripped of their power. Then will commence a persecution of the Church the like of which has never been seen before."


Note: This is like Revelation 9:11


In the 37th paragraph of the Epistle, Nostradamus reveals that the Antipope will be an adherent to a religious “sect” which will be promoted by the Triumvirate of temporal rulers and will spread throughout the world. Initially, therefore, the Third Antichrist will not be a solitary tyrant, but will rule the world jointly with two other “Triumvirs”. Not coincidentally, the pattern of the Triumvirate also characterized the rise to power of both Napoleon and Hitler. Before becoming Emperor of France, Bonaparte was one of a Triumvirate of Consuls. Similarly, in the formative years of the Nazi Party, Adolf Hitler shared power in a Triumvirate with Joseph Goebbels and Hermann Goering.


Note: On 12-28-02 "The Mighty Sisto" made contact by IM and told of a dream with the above three Nazis.


Consequently, the Antichrist of the Apocalypse may be characterized as a “Triumvir” is two senses. First, as we have just said, he will initially share power as one of the Triumvirate of the “three temporal Kings” foreseen by Nostradamus. Second, he will be the “third” in the line of historical Antichrists, the rightful heir to the odious legacies of Bonaparte and Hitler. Nostradamus speaks of this “third one”, who will nonetheless rank “first” in perpetrating atrocities:

The third one ranks first, doing worse than Nero,
The valiant finished off, so much human blood to flow:
He will cause the ovens to be rebuilt,
Golden age dead, new King, great scandal.

Since this is the 17th Quatrain of Century IX, we again find the number 17 associated with the fall of the Papacy and the rise of the Antichrist. Moreover, it’s possible that Nostradamus intentionally positioned this stanza as Quatrain 9.17 as an allusion to the year 1917, when the Third Secret of Fatima was revealed. In the last line, we see a reference to the “great scandal”, now beginning to engulf the Catholic hierarchy, which is destined to bring an end to the “golden age” of the Vatican’s moral authority.

Particularly ominous is the allusion in the third line to the rebuilding of “ovens”, which suggests that the “third one” will resume the nightmarish Holocaust of Dachau, Treblinka and Auschwitz. And the reference to Nero all but clinches the identification of the “new King” as the Antichrist, since the notorious figure 666 of the Beast of Revelation is a numerical rendering of the name “Nero Caesar"


Note, 17th Quatrain of Century IX = 9 x 17 = 153.


Nero was, of course, the Emperor who supposedly ordered the execution of St. Peter.

According to one version of the story, Nero sought revenge on Peter because he had brought disgrace on the Emperor’s favorite magician, Simon Magus. If Nero was the original prototype of the Beast, then it must be said that Simon Magus was the original prototype of the False Prophet who serves as the Beast’s spiritual accomplice. Although the pejorative “Magus” epithet – meaning “magician” – was later attached to his name by Christian writers, he was actually known in Rome as Simon Magnus, or Simon the Great.

And, while the historical presence of Simon the Apostle in Rome is, at best, uncertain, Simon Magus’ sojourn in the Eternal City is quite well documented. In fact, Simon Magus founded his own sect which came to dominate the early Christian community in Rome. This sect later evolved into a form of Christianity known as “Gnosticism”.


When Gnosticism was subsequently branded a heresy by the official Church, the fact that the original Christian community in Rome had been established by Simon Magus understandably became quite an embarrassing historical detail, and one that weighed heavily against the claim of Rome to be the supreme See. The standard response of authoritarian institutions to inconvenient historical details is to alter them, and this was apparently what the Church of Rome hoped to accomplish by promoting the fiction of St.

Peter’s role in founding the local Christian community. As it often did in converting the tales of popular pagan deities into the “lives of saints”, the Roman Church simply merged the identities of Simon Magus and Simon the Fisherman, fashioning a fictional persona for the latter out of the historical character of the former.

That being the case, it’s likely that the victim of the execution decreed by Nero on Vatican Hill in 64 AD was not Simon Peter, but Simon Magus. The fact that Simon Magus had at one time been the one of the Emperor’s favorites does not at all argue against this scenario, since Nero was notorious for disposing of such people once they fell into disfavor. Apparently Simon had exceeded the limits of his magical powers in an effort to please the crowds who assembled for the diversions offered by Nero at his Vatican circus maximus. When he fell from the sky during a levitation performance, the scorn of the rabble grated on the pride of his patron Nero, who petulantly demanded his crucifixion. The image of “falling from the sky” is one that Nostradamus applies prophetically, in Quatrain 1.27, to the Antipope who will be the modern counterpart of Simon Magus:

Under the oak tree of southern France, struck from the sky,
Not far there, the treasure is hidden:
He who for long centuries had been gathered in,
Found dead, the eye gouged out by ambition.


One of the philosophical consequences of viewing mundane reality as essentially demonic is the belief that reality can manipulated by the invocation of demons. For that reason, there has always been a strong nexus between occultism and dualistic creeds, such as Gnosticism. In fact, the storied feats of Simon Magus were attributed to his skill in manipulating the power of demons. For that reason, Simon served as the model for Goethe’s demon-invoking character Faust. One of the most memorable scenes in Goethe’s tragedy involves Faust’s participation in Walpurgis Night – a sort of annual orgy of demons and their occult worshipers. Traditionally, Walpurgis Night is the eve of May Day, the last night of the month of April. Nostradamus seems to be referring to that date in his 42nd Quatrain of Century I:

The tenth day of April by Gothic reckoning
Revived again by devilish people:
The fire extinguished, diabolic assembly
Searching for the bones of the Demon of Psellus.


Addressing his son and heir César, Nostradamus explains, in the 16th paragraph of the Preface, the evil he sought to avert by destroying Psellus’ occult manual:

Thus, so that you might not be led astray in the future in a search for the perfect transformation of silver, or of gold, or of incorruptible metals under the earth, or hidden in the sea, I have reduced them to ashes.

This passage implies that the demonic manipulation of physical reality, as explained in books like Psellus’, aims at the “alchemists’ dream” of transmuting base metals into gold and silver. It’s not coincidental, moreover, that the legendary Holy Grail was said to have the miraculous power to transform ordinary matter into precious objects.

While the Grail is typically represented as a golden Chalice, the latter is simply an emblem for the occult knowledge which the Grail embodies. As we’ve already seen, Nostradamus’ prophecies indicate that the search for the Grail is somehow tied in with search for the bones of “St. Peter”, aka Simon Magus. We’ve also learned that the number 17 and its expanded derivative 153 furnish important “clues” in this search. If we pursue this lead to Quatrain 1.53, we read the following:

Alas! the people will see a great one tormented
And the holy law in utter ruin,
[Replaced by] other laws throughout Christendom,
When a new source of gold and silver is found.


But when the German archaeologists opened the sepulcher in 1942, they found no human remains within it. Perhaps the answer lies in another Quatrain, the 84th in Century IX, which also speaks of a tomb encased in marble and lead:

The King exposed will complete the slaughter,
After having found his origin:
Rush to open the tomb of marble and lead,
Of the great Roman with a Medusine insignia.


Inserted 1-5-03, 5:40 PM

Dee received an e-mail from her friend, Michell this morning, relating her dream last night. It seemed to closely follow the symbolism of the above article.


Diana was a focus of the press for 17 years.

Dee's dream of 49/211, as related to the assination of the Pope on 2-11-1939, who was crowned Pope on 2_11-1922, exactly 17 years.


4-26-04, 10:04 AM

Found this while searching my files for the Da Vinci Code:

3-7-97, From Ho mail:


This isn't exactly Celtic, but of interest to all. I've just concluded some astrological research that seems to support the idea that the next decade or so will be one of great religious/philosophical turmoil and exploration.

This is based on the precept that Pluto entered the sign of Sagittarius in early 1995 and will finally leave there.


Here is a list I compiled of what happened the previous times that Pluto was in Sagittarius. It is based on professional astrology software and the contents of three encyclopedias (Groliers,

Comptons, and Encarta.)

(skip long list)

1502 Columbus sails on his fourth voyage of discovery.

1503-1510 Copernicus receives doctorate in Canonical law and then completes treatsie on heliocentric astronomy.

1503 Juan Bermudez lands on the island of Bermuda, which is named for him.

1503 Arquebuses (handguns) help the Spanish defeat the French


1503 The Spanish crown approves encomienda (enforced slavery) in the American colonies.

1503 Leonardo da Vinci begins painting the Mona Lisa.

1503-1513 Julius II is pope.

1503 Nostradamus Born.

1504 The watch is invented by Peter Heinlein.

1506 Construction of St. Peter's Basilica begins.


In a message dated 6/21/2004 10:14:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, Sst writes:

<< Subj: [greatdreams-forum] John Doe #2 and the Pope >> (snip)

<< I was reading a book about Nostradamus published in 2001 before 9/11 and it  says that Quatrain V.92 says that after holding the seat for 17 years, Five  will change in just such a period (17 more years). >> (snip)

<< The author was trying to find a pope in history that served 17 years -- the only one was Pious XI and he served from 1922 to 1939. But he wasn't followed by five more men who served like period. >> (snip)


Hi all.

T.J. did a fine article about this subject:

Dee included Michelle's dream about the Pope and President Bush on this page:

YOU GOTTA BE JOKING!!! The Beast of Revelation

Her dream was quite coincidental to me, as I had just read T.J.'s article about the Triumvir. Also coincidental was the date of her dream, 1/5/2003. That can be expressed symbolically as 1/5/03, or 1503, or 153.

The number 153 was mentioned in the article as related to the Popes via Peter the Fisherman in the 153 Fish in the Net story in John 21. The numbers 1 through 17 add to 153.

Also coincidentally interesting is that Nostradamus was born in 1503. Dee covered the 153 Fish in the Net story in this article:





In a message dated 9/20/2004 11:45:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, William writes:

<< Subj: Re: 288 - 137 = 151
Date: 9/20/2004 11:45:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: William
To: (& others)

Hi Joe,

This is a fascinating and important dream.

It's about the Second Coming, for sure. This was represented by the destruction of the twin towers, and is the birth of a new humanity. The twins are a perfect metaphor for both ideas. I totally agree about the numbers relating to Jesus Christ and the 153 fish in John 21. Incidentally, in the combined value system I use

angel (c) = 153

This came before 151 (Jesus Christ) which recapitulates the biblical story of the angel announcing the birth of Jesus.

However, I was also struck by the fact that the twins were joined at the foot, which must be significant. Visually, they would create either the letter V or the letter M.

Now V is the 22nd letter of the alphabet, and M is the 13th, so we have further lines of enquiry here.

Lord (r) = 22 = 11 + 11

The MM reminds me of Mother Mary or Mary Magdalene.

Mary Magdalene = 119 = 272 - 153


M (c) = 57 = Mary

MM (c) = 114 = God (c)

For an explanation of the systems I use, see:

In Christ,


on 20/9/04 1:41 am, at wrote:

This is a followup to my last e-mail.

Dee had a two dreams this morning that involved twins and the numbers 15.3 and

15.1. >> [my snip]

99.44.2 2112, Music, Crop Circles, 9-11 Disaster (JMason4557)


Date: 9/17/01


The Mega-Glyph crop formation that appeared at Tan Hill, near Milk Hill this year, may suggest a few related numbers. See:

Huge 6 Fold Julia, Milk Hill (2), Nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. 8/13

This was composed of 409 circles. Each of the six segments had 13 major circles and 55 smaller circles. The total circles in each segment are multiples of 17. I added like this:

Large Small Total Divided by 17

13 55 68 4

26 110 136 8

39 165 204 12

52 220 272 16

65 275 340 20

78 330 408 24 Add the central circle to 408 to arrive at the total of 409.

Some of the "music" numbers are there. The left column fits with Mayan timekeeping and with Tarot cards.

The number 17 is related to 153, the number of fish in the net (John 21), as the numbers

1 through 17 add to 153.

The formation appeared around August 17, perhaps suggesting 8 x 17 = 136.

I also realized that 1836 / 17 = 108, while reading about electrons and such on one of Robert's pages. To me, the 108 connection to the electron is symbolically significant, as the number is related to time cycles, dowsing energy, the goddess, and the moon, the smaller sphere that rotates around the bigger one.


I found 408 on our Code page: [excerpt] Here is a table of some Mayan Calendar units and their equivalent numbers of gematrian "Mayan Minutes" :


Kins Days Hours "Mayan Minutes"

17 = 17 = 408 = 2448

(In other words, there are 408 hours in 17 days, and 24480 minutes. 6.8 x 60 = 408. 2448/ 306 = 8. 306 / 2 = 153. 2448 / 2 = 1224, also mentioned on the Code page, pasted in below)

The Greek words for "FISHES" and "THE NET" both equate in Greek Gematria to the number 1224, and 153 is 1/8 of this amount. In the Biblical story, then, Simon and his other six fishermen correspond to a circle with six interlocking rings with a central circle inside. This also forms a six-petal flower-like shape inside the central circle, like "The Flower of Life." As the story continues, more geometric shapes are added, one of which is a grid of diamond shapes forming a larger diamond. This is the "NET" in the story. A vertical measurement is 153 and the horizontal is 265. This demonstrates a number very close to the square root of three by 265 / 153. [end of paste] This seems significant regarding the 60 degrees associated with six fold designs, and the tangents of 60 multiples, such as 240 and 5280 being equal to the square root of three.

Also note Jimi's part:

204 (total courses of stone on the Great Pyramid) / 1.3333333(a 4th in music intervals) =153


A beautiful Flower of Life appeared this year:

Flower of Life Formation - Englishcombe, nr Bath, Somerset, 8/12/01

This is just as it is drawn in "Jesus Christ, Sun of God," to illustrate the 153 Fish in the Net story.

Joe's Response to Robert's E-mail

Hello Robert and all.

Sorry about this -- I got so carried away I stayed up all night writing this small book! I hope somebody will find it worthwhile.

The number 297 came up in my work lately, including strange coincidences, so Quatrain 2.97 perked my interest in your post. Also, several years ago, we did an article about the next Pope (near the last), based on a dream and prophetic material. You and Norma are mentioned in the article, as it relates to the Hanged Man Tarot card.

The number 297 came up in working with mirror numbers. It is the mirror of 792, which is a harmonic of the Earth's diameter of 7920 miles. I will place various links below for anyone interested.

I know that most "number people" are familiar with mirror numbers, but I do not know if many have played with the squares of mirror numbers. As a matter of fact, the number 19 is a very good example --

91^2 - 19^2 = 7920
8281 - 361 = 7920

In the new article about the squares of the mirrors, there is a table with the two-digit types. The most common result is 297 or a multiple. The number 396 (half of 792) is also major.

The number 396 is also one of the "Solfeggio" numbers. Some related numbers are on the Music Wheel, based on 440 tuning and crop circle ratios, including, 297, 396, 528, 792, 3960, 5280, and 7920.

People researching the Solfeggio numbers have found that the central "C" note, when tuned at 528 cps, has a healing effect on DNA. "Coincidentally," 528 does show up at that very place on the Music Wheel.

The ancient system, as Munck and others have reported, included the 5280 foot mile. The latest coincidences about these numbers, was finding an old tape where Munck decoded the great Triangle on the Nazca planes, with lines pointing to Giza and Easter Island, that indicated 8, 2, and 5. I suddenly realized that the triangle could be flipped over to show 528 --

The first time mirror numbers really caught my attention as potentially being significant came when I read about the blackout in the Northeastern USA 36 years prior to 9-11-2001, on November 9, 1965. I remembered the event, of course, but I did not consider the date as a mirror to 9-11. Just for fun, I did the simple calculation --

911 - 119 = 792

By that time, I knew that 792 was a harmonic of Earth's diameter, and that Gematria means "measuring the Earth." Around 1994 a snail mail correspondent, Paul Rydeen, had a dream where he was billed $7,920 for damaging a Ford Falcon.

The nines can line up like a mirror --

0 9 18 27 36 45 (mirror) 54 63 72 81 90

Same with the elevens --

0 11 29 38 47 56 mirror 65 74 83 92 110

Some of the 9-11 events had related mirrors --

571 39 77 11 (mirror) 11 77 93 175

Flight 11 hit one Tower. Flight 175 hit the other. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. A movie was paying at the time, "U-571," which is about finding the solution to a secret code under the water. Another movie playing was "Ocean's Eleven." The number 93 is Crowley's New Aeon. The number 39 showed up in a very important crop circle and it is 3 x 13 or 2 x 19.5.

I just thought of this --

11 + 175 + 77 + 93 = 356
653 - 356 = 297

Simple two-digit mirrors feature number 9, while the squares of the two-digit mirrors feature the number 99. Simple three-digit mirrors also feature 99.

99 x 80 = 7920
(11 + 11) x 360 = 7920

It did not escape me that the number 99 is 9 x 11, which could well be part of the number symbolism of the 9-11 events, possibly hinting of mirror numbers.

The terrorist attacks of September 11, can be figured as 9 x 11 = 99. The year number, 2001, can be figured in several ways, one of which is it's reduced value, 3 (2 + 0 + 0 + 1). We then have --

9 x 11 x 3 = 297

I just now realized that 1965 can also be reduced to 21 and then 3 (21 relates to 2001).

Adding three-digit mirrors produces another number --

792 + 297 = 1089 which is 11 x 99 and 33 squared

99 squared produces its mirror 9801

The number 33 is featured in the Music Wheel, as 11 marks on each side of a triangle.

In my table of the squares of the mirror numbers, the number difference for the final mirror pair, 98 and 89, results in 1683. It is the only result of the 36 pairs that has a factor of 17. This "odd ball" is striking in that the incredible number, 153, is the multiple --

1683 = 11 x 153
1683 = 99 x 17

The number 153 is the Biblical "resurrection number" found in John 21, as the number of Fish in the Net. The numbers 1 through 17, of course, add to 153, indicating it is a "triangle number." The Biblical story features Peter, who is said to have become the first Pope. Nostradamus apparently referenced this in C5, Q92

After the seat has been held seventeen years,

Five will change within such a period:

Then one will be elected at the same time,

Who to the Romans will not be too agreeable.

This prediction came true when Pope Pius XI served from February 11, 1922 to February 11, 1939, i.e., 17 years to the day (or close to it according to some). Some say he was murdered. The one elected at the same time is apparently the present Pope, Benedict XVI. He was elected on a date that seems to appear repeatedly, 19 April 2005.

As you pointed out, Waco happened on that day in 1993 and Oklahoma City in 1995.

I think it is also significant that he is the 265th Pope. That number is part of the Fish in the Net story, as the measure of the little diamond shapes in the Net are 153 by 265.

This was part of the original contrivance by pre-Christian number crunchers, as --

265 / 153 = 1.732026144 a very close approximation of the square root of three

Did Pope Benedict choose to be number XVI as a reference to the 16 diamonds of the Net? Whatever . . . all this stuff is sooooooo strange to me!

The Fish in the Net story features the Seed of Life, which fits with the sixth sphere of the Tree of Life.

So, Robert, I do think your message is "adding up!" We have --

Quatrain 2.97 as Pope related and possibly NYC related

Number 19 related to 7920 and the Pope's visit

New York City (the 11th state) related to 9-11 or the 99 mirror multiples

I would not venture to say that all this is a prediction of the Pope's death. But, I do have a few speculations in terms of the symbolic meanings. My file has C2:Q97 this way --

Roman Pontiff beware of approaching
The city that two rivers flow through,
Near there your blood will come to spurt,
You and yours when the rose will flourish.

Perhaps Nostradamus saw the two bodies of water on either side of Manhattan and thought they were rivers.

This seems somewhat like the third secret at Fatima. BTW, the apparitions of Mary were over a period of six months (actually five months in duration), from May 13 to the Dance of the Sun on October 13, 1917, which adds up to 153 days. A well researched book came out a few years ago, "Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon," that presents major evidence that the Fatima events were much like ET events.

The rose is said to be the Western Lotus, and thus related to the chakras. My major theory, based on dream-coincidence, is that the big change is related to the sixth sphere of the Tree of Life, Tipharet. The "Seed of Life" is a symbol for that sphere during the time cycle in the lower three chakra levels. Tipharet represent the fourth chakra, the Heart. The Seed of Life opens like a flower-aperture, to reveal the Star of David inside, with the twelve-petal flower outside, the traditional symbol of the Heart chakra.

One could say that the rose (chakra) will bloom or flourish.

Nostradamus also mentions the rose in C5:Q31 --

Through the Attic land fountain of wisdom,
At present the rose of the world:
The bridge ruined, and its great pre-eminence
Will be subjected, a wreck amidst the waves.

Oh boy, a big part of the meaning just became clear to me this moment.

The "bridge" clearly seems to be the "dumbbell" path connected between the two spheres just below the sphere of Tipharet, as the entire "dumbbell" represents the third chakra, symbolized by The Tower Tarot card. Oh, yes, that bridge was ruined on 9-11 as the great towers fell.

Some of this was featured in our 1997 article about the Tree of Life Crop Circle.

The upper part of the Tree of Life is like the "Attic," and Tipharet the Rose, is up there.

The idea about the "bridge" meaning came to me via dreams and other events, such as bridges collapsing. In some dreams it is an overpass above a highway or roadway, or a stream.

I wrote about C5:Q31 about 11 years ago as relating to symbolism involving the Hale-Bopp comet. Note that the Quatrain number can be 531, which seems related to 153 type numbers.

531 + 153 = 684 = 36 x 19 (those two numbers also fit this story)
531 + 135 = 666
153 x 2 + 360 = 666
153 + 180 = 333 the length in feet of the ratchet Mercury spiral of the 1991 Barbury Castle formation

Here's an excerpt from Part 3 of the Hale-Bopp comet article --

<< The Nostradamus quatrains are of great interest to me. Many of the words and phrases he used are very similar to dream symbols, and seem to carry grander meanings than those given by most interpreters. For example, in Century V-31, he mentions "the Attic land fountain of wisdom," and "the rose of the world," and "a wreck amidst the waves."

My dreams and others clearly indicate that there is a metaphor concerning a simple house-shape. The triangular "attic" on top of the square represents Heaven above earth.

The book, Flowers In The Attic seemed to pick up on the theme. After telling a friend at work about this symbolism, she soon talked to a friend, Mary, in another state. They began to speak of dreams, and Mary told my friend that she had recurring dreams of trying to get to the attic, but there was a problem with the ceiling/floor in between. In her last dream, the floor was damaged, but was being repaired. I made contact with Mary, and told of my dreams and coincidences concerning this. I asked her if she saw any flowers in the attic. She wrote back and told me that sometimes in the dreams she is in the attic. She opened drawers of wooden furniture and found things inside. She could only remember one of the items she found in the drawers. It was a beautiful rose made of jewels. Each petal was a ruby, and the flower was surrounded with emerald leaves.

Later, I read a report that a mystic in Russia had written a book called, The Rose of the World. It has not been translated into English [note -- is has now been translated]. It is about a huge change coming to earth. The major religions of the world are each a petal on this Cosmic Rose. They will retain many of their traditions, but there will be major changes and a unity.

Someone told me that a western mystic saw a Rose in Heaven. I believe it was Blake or Dante.

"Waves" have appeared in many dreams. In one of the dreams, a bomb was dropped, and Navy ships went in reverse over the horizon. A tidal wave broke the windows of a hospital, but instead of water, a green, jelly-like substance came in, along with a dead boy. There are also dreams and books about three waves, or the third wave.

Could it be then, that Nostradamus tuned into the same dream symbols that are apparent now? If so, conventional interpretations may not be right, or only partly right.

My feeling is that symbolic events happen all the time, and we seldom recognize them.

Many of the interpretations of the predictions may well come to pass as actual events, but the events themselves may carry an even deeper, and more important meaning. >>

[End of excerpt]

Tipharet is the sixth sphere, so the associated Magic Square is a 6 x 6 gird with the numbers 1 through 36 within. This is plotted so that each column, row and diagonal adds to 111, and the total adds to 666 (36 is also a "triangle number." The 9-11 event happened on the 254th (reduces to 11) day of the year, with 111 days remaining.

The number 792 showed up in a unique way in the crop circle at Crooked Soley near the end of August 2002.

It was a six-fold representation of mitochondrial DNA. Here's an excerpt from the article linked below --

<<The Crooked Soley crop circle is about 300 ft across, and the pattern is made up of 1296 ‘curved squares’. In 504 of those squares the crop has been left standing, and they depict the double helix DNA spiral. The other 792 curved squares are in fact flattened crop that enables the DNA pattern to stand out in relief. John Michell tells us that these are the numbers of sacred geometry. If you multiply 504 by 10 you get 5040 which is the number much favoured by Plato for the planning of his ideal city. The recommended number of citizens is 5040, and all the institutions in the city are based

on that number, as is the physical radius of the city as well. Plato took this number to be the key for a divinely ordered creation.

5040 is a most significant and auspicious number in numerology and arithmetic. It is factorial 7 (7!), that is to say the result of 1x2x3x4x5x6x7. >>

[End of excerpt]

The number 1296 is six to the fourth power. Add a zero on the end and it is half the Precession of the Zodiac Ages. That number showed up years ago involving the ratchet Mercury spiral, as related to the Pleiades.

Half of 1296 is 648, which was the length of the other DNA formation of 1996.

The numbers 7920 and 5040 also figure in the New Jerusalem Plan for two calculations giving 31680 miles.

This is figured in two ways. Draw a box around the sphere of the Earth, which has a diameter of 7920 miles. The perimeter of the box is 4 x 7920 = 31680.

The second way is to calculate the circumference of the circle in the diagram that passes through the 12 small circles, each of which is the diameter of the Moon, 2160 miles. In this calculation approximate Pi or Pyramid Pi is used, which is 22/7.

The radius of this "Moon" circle is figured by adding the radius of the Earth and the radius of the Moon:

3960 + 1080 = 5040.

The circumference of the Moon circle is figured as:

(2 x 22/7) x 5040 = 31680

There is said to be a converting factor with the verses of Revelation 21. The stadia is said to be the same measure as the furlong of 660 feet. Twelve thousand stadia converts to 7920000 feet. The breadth, length, and height are equal, so the figure becomes 4 x 12000 stadia or 48000 x 660 = 31680000 feet.

Dropping the ending zeros, the basic figure is 4 x 12 = 48, and then, 48 x 66 = 3168.

The number 3168 in Greek Gematria means "Lord Jesus Christ."

Back in 1991, before I knew much, I noted --

31680 = 6 x 5280 or six miles in feet.

The ancient Sumerian Soss (60) times 528 gives the same result.

The numbers 60 and 5280 have a tangents that equate to the square root of three (5280 = 88 x 60).

My prediction about the last Pope is symbolic of the Age we are entering. During this karmic stage in the lower three chakras (the Kali Yuga), our beliefs and reality are controlled by those at the top of the mountain, the apex of power. This is generally Church and State. Nowadays it seems to include industrial giants.

Those in power fire down Satan's Arrow, or from his son, "The Arrow of Death." This turns our Omphalos (perception of reality) into stone, that is, our beliefs are fixed, so that we self-regulate our slavish, powerless condition. Without having a clue, we are unconscious co-creators.

I gathered many of these ideas via reading T. J. Germinario's Apokalypso book and site. Here's and excerpt about this part --

<< Death performs this feat by congealing the fluid turbulence of Chaos into stone, just as the mythic Medusa petrifies living things with her evil eye. In a transparent allusion to the Papacy, Milton refers to this “highway to Hell” as a Bridge, “Pontifical, a ridge of pendent Rock/ Over the vast Abyss”. >>

[End of excerpt]

Ah ha! There's that old "Bridge" again. There is no conflict to the previous bridge interpretation, as the Earth is considered Hell in some traditions.

Keep in mind that Peter was Petra, which means "stone." Blavatsky pointed out that it had an alternative meaning, because the word in Chaldaic and Phoenician also meant "interpreter."

When the Age change is complete, and humanity leaps over the broken bridge to the heart chakra, the sphere of Tipharet, who corresponds to the "New Pope." In Kabalistic and Royal Bloodline terms this is the High Priest inside, or Higher Self, who's twin, or lower self, struggles in Earth Hell. This is the king who's kingdom has be stolen.

T. J. figured the new mountain apex of power may come in the form of broadcast antennas. This certainly fits with my opinion of television and radio news these days, specifically about political affairs. Perhaps the Nostradamus line, "Will be subjected, a wreck amidst the waves," is a reference to these electronic frequencies.

With the change, we become conscious co-creators, symbolized by Lion Kings.

This change seems to be indicated in Isaiah 65 --

65:17 "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."

65:21 "And they shall build houses, and inhabit them;
and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

(22) They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant,
and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people,
and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands."

This is what the 11:11 is all about. The High Priest and Governor (King) are the two anointed in Zechariah 3 and 4, who stand on either side of the golden bowl with seven lamps. This is Joshua and Zerubbabel. They are referenced from Revelation 11, as these (symbolic) two are killed in the great city, and lay there for three days and a half (the midpoint of the chakras). A breath of life come from God and they stand up in Revelation 11:11.

No wonder Zerubbabel is the big hero of the Bible, as he is made the Signet Ring of the Lord when heaven and earth shake (Haggai 2:20, 23). After all, he went through Hell ! According to Blavatsky, the Signet Ring of the Lord relates to the Tetragrammaton, the four Letters of the Divine Name, the "Father's Name" mark on the forehead in Revelation 14:1 of the 144,000 to be saved.

It may be a meaningless "coincidence" that the Mayan cycle ends at 11:11 AM Universal time, but I think not! It is also probably not meaningless that the cycle is 13 x 144,000 days.

I have more to say, but I have run out of gas.

Thank you Robert for putting a little Tiger/Lion fuel in my tank. That has not happened much lately.


Joe Mason



Creation Numbers - The Differences in the Squares of Mirror Numbers & Solfeggio Music

The Crop Circle Music Wheel


The Tree of Life Crop Circle Formation


The Great Pryamid and the 153 Fish in the Net

17 FISH - THE BIBLE AND THE STARS (153 Fish in the Net)


The Pleiades and the Seventh Ray on the Seventh Day

DNA Formation, 17 June 1996, Alton Barnes, Wiltshire - Lucy Pringle

Sacred Numbers to Resuscitate the Dead - Lazarus and Awakening the Giant

Isis Unveiled by H. P. Blavatsky, vol 2, ch 2
(see page 92 about Peter in Phoenician and Chaldaic, meaning an interpreter)

The Year of Jubilee, Chapter Four: A Season in Hell

The American Tragedy: A Symbolic Event - September 11, 2001

Posted to the Crop Circle Connector Forum

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:53 am
Post subject: Deception Explanation

In a previous post, I mentioned Our Lady of Guadalupe, and gave this link to information about so-called religious miracles --

I wrote --


I believe that so-called miracles are significant, including those recorded in religious scriptures, but I maintain quite a lot of skepticism. There are indications of possible deception. The same could be said of the crop circles.

I did not explain what I meant, and this was noted by some people on the Forum. I will explain what I meant now.

The “deception” is grand in this theory, involving our perceptions and what we each consider the “truth” of our reality. This differs, of course, with individuals and societies through time. In my own questing, I came to a point where it seemed “The Truth” was a moving target, and probably forever out of reach. From that point, my goal was to find out as much as I could about the “script” of the “stage play” of reality.

This is nothing new. The ancients of the East called the reality “Maya” meaning illusion. Plato, Shakespeare and others said much the same.

Part of my study is about belief systems, including religions, past, present, and potentials in the future. In terms of the reality we create, the beliefs are more important than the “Truth,” whatever that may be.

One section of this study is crop circles and other odd fields, such as UFO/ET events, coincidences, and religious miracles. Such things often seem to be major in changing belief systems. So, in terms of the crop circles, it is not so important whether they are man-made or otherwise. The effect they have on beliefs is the primary focus of my study. If a significant number of people “believe” the crop circles are being created by “no human hand,” the impact on belief systems is likely to be larger.

The study of the development of various religions held some revelations for me. Various “miracles” played a key roll. The “miracles” may be entirely fictional, but they had an effect on beliefs. It seems to me that two major (supposed) “miracles” played a big part in the development of Christianity.

Saint Paul is said to have seen a vision of Jesus on his way to Damascus. This caused him to do a 180-degree flip-flop, from a persecutor of Christians, to a major promoter of those beliefs. He traveled and preached all over the place, and was quite major in the basic system that came down to us, sometimes called, “Pauline Christianity.”

Around 300 AD, Constantine supposedly saw a Christian cross in the sky, which, arguably, caused him to accept Christianity. As Emperor, he played the major role in developing the belief system of Christianity, especially at the first Council of Nicea in 325 AD.

The major event that brought Islam was the supposed appearance of the angel Gabriel to Muhammad.

Muslims believe that God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad, God's final prophet.

Studying the history of these religions, it seemed to me that there was quite a lot of seemingly negative events that transpired through the years, some of which continues in certain sectors. A lot of positive has also come from them.

I read about the so-called religious miracles. The so-called Marian apparitions are especially interesting, particularly Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico in 1531 and the Fatima events of 1917. See the link above.

It has been pointed out that such apparitions tend to appear to people who hold those beliefs. There are messages about converting, and the events do tend to convert the beliefs of people.

A recent development in this study started a few years ago. I received an e-mail from the authors of a book called, “Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon.” It had recently been translated into English.


This extensive scholarly study details the close correlation of the 1917 events and modern studies of UFO events.

I bought the book. Later, I found that the Sightings site had an article about the book --

This excerpt from the above link caught my attention --


These kind of effects seem consistent, according some researchers, like nuclear physicists James McCampbell and Jean-Pierre Petit (CNRS, France), with a "microwave radiation", also detected in preliminar samples from "crop circles" spots by the biophysics dr. W. Levengood.

I mentioned some of this in a previous post in 2006, and included it on a web page --

More recently, I realized that the number 153 was part of the Fatima story. We have studied that number for years, and feel it is related to the Seed of Life type crop circle, which relates to so many other formations. The Fatima events took place from May 13 to October 13, 1917. That is a period of five months. Five months is mentioned twice in Revelation, as related to the sting of the Scorpion.

Any consecutive five-month period on our calendar that does not include February, has a total of 153 days.

This is an excerpt from my 2006 post --


I tend to agree with the ET theory, and also feel that such events should be studied seriously. My study involves trying to find possible symbolic meaning, with dreams and coincidences as my guideposts.

At this point, my theory is that we are creating the reality unconsciously, and that strange events are part of the process. Entities in other dimensions, such as the dream reality, are involved, as we, unknowingly, are. The strange events function as forces of change, as they tend to set people off in a quest for the truth. I call the entities who help create the events, "The Watchers." As Vallee and others suggest, the entities can take many forms, depending on the beliefs of the people involved.

The "truth" produced via the quests become the new mythology, the new script for the great theater of life.

The crop circle formations and UFO/ET events seem to be a big push for change. My project is all about trying to figure out which direction this will take on a mass scale. The first step is to find out as much as possible about the changes being pushed from the other side of time. It is like learning a language, in this case the symbolic language of the collective unconscious. Our primary access to that realm is dreams.

The beliefs, or myths, or scripts, have always come in this way. Each generation, each person, tends to think they have the final truth. To me, it seems like a moving target. My hope is that mankind will eventually understand the process, and write new and more positive scripts consciously. Indeed, this seems to be the main symbolic message being imparted - to become conscious co-creators, symbolically, Lion Kings.

One of the best symbolic illustrations of this theory is the “Wizard of Oz.” In our path along the Yellow Brick Road, the Wizard appears as this godly image. He sends us out on our mission of challenges. At the end, he is exposed by the dog, Toto, who pulls the curtain to expose the ordinary man who controls the image of the Wizard.

He then tells the group that they each found what they were looking for (brain, heart, return home) on the Yellow Brick Road. It is said that the message of the story is –


It’s not the destination, it’s the journey!

There was an urbanized retelling of the Wizard of Oz story in 1978, with an all black cast. The Wiz was played by Richard Pryor. Interestingly, his abode was up in the Twin Towers in New York City. The two towers were shown connected together by an upper bridge type structure.

I therefore dedicate this post to our very own Wiz-Oz!

Perhaps “deception” was the wrong word to use. Is there a symbolic type of Wizard creating strange events, including crop circles? If so, is it bad or good?

The quest continues.