11:11 - The Audio
Interview of Joseph Mason
 on Ryan Lindsey's Insight Radio Show
November 21, 2005 at 10:00 AM Central
Joseph Mason & 11:11 Crop Circle


Ryan Lindsey's "Insight" Radio Talk Show

On the right is an Example of an 11:11 Type Crop Circle Formation -
which appeared at Crawley Downs, Hampshire, United Kingdom, 13 July 1990
Photo credit: Lucy Pringle


Listen or Download the Interview Here

Joe Mason Interview - Mp3 Format


This web page was created to assist in the radio interview with Ryan Lindsey, by providing links and information. It includes various subjects, some of which were covered in relation to the main topic, the 11:11 coincidence phenomenon. People all over the world have been reporting these strange coincidences regarding 11:11 and other numbers. Dee Finney and I, Joseph (Joe) Mason, have been researching and recording reports on the subject for many years. We follow similar work by others, and provide links to their web sites.

Some additional information was added after the broadcast, concerning subjects that came up during the interview.



I try to keep an open mind while remaining skeptical. The information considered comes from many sources, some of which may be considered by others to be unworthy or worse. Please keep in mind that I do not generally endorse the views of the sources. I report coincidences and seeming connections, while not necessarily agreeing with interpretations. I report "facts," as I know them, such as a reported dream or crop circle formation. I also suggest possible interpretations, but I consider them guesses. Others may well have "better" interpretations.

In the theory I am presenting, the dreams and coincidences are the major guides. Other sources are compared to the dream-coincidences, and considered in that light. Also see:



January 24, 2006 Update

I have added extra material to this article. It is becoming more comprehensive, and inclusive. The 11:11 message seems to connect to many other areas. I wish to include the major areas within this article or links to them.

The latest material concerns the amazing coincidences concerning the film, "2001:Space Odyssey."



The following is a general outline of important parts of our work, starting with the 11:11 material. The other material is related. The work involves major changes that may be coming into being. Some of the changes may involve a paradigm shift in our beliefs about the Creation and the nature of reality.

Hopefully, Ryan will have me on his show again, to continue discussing these subjects.

1. 11:11 Coincidence
     A. Reports - wake-up calls,
          Solara's 11:11 Doorway,
          Doug's 11:11 Vision
     B. 11:11 -What does it mean?
          Three main points related to 11:11:
             (1) Mayan Calendar end








































In the 28 years listed on the linked page from which the above table was taken, only the one 11:11 universal time is given. The end of the Mayan calendar falls on December 21, 2012. That is the famous "End Date." (See http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html)
             (2) Stan's Equations & Orion
             (3) Swallows (Our Merkabah vehicle for mass ascension crop circle formation)
     C. Two Suns (and the connection to 11:11)
     D. Leap to the Heart Chakra (includes Pablo's dream on 11 January 1992),
          Sri Yantra
     E. End of WW 1,
     F. Football Symbolism (11 players on each team & other symbols)
          (To be included later: Dream of Cleveland Dogs & Serpent Mound)

2. Overall messages about the earth changes
     A. Heart chakra
     B. The New Jerusalem
     C. Duality balance - Adam/Eve,
          return of the feminine
     D. Trinitized powers - daughter aspect & Holy Spirit
     E. Conscious co-creators, new myths, Rev. 3:11, Isaiah 65, builders
     F. DNA change or repair
     G. Holy Grail,
          becoming the Body of Christ,
          Rose of the World
     H. 2001:Space Odyssey (incredible "coincidences" with a message)
          2001:Space Odyssey Update
          The "Real" Obelisk of 2001:Space Odyssey
          Chicxulub Crater Dream
          An Alien Appears Upon the "Real" Obelisk
      I.  Warring cycle, transmuting the warring attribute
     J. End of bad karma

3. Revelations about creation
     A. Duality
          Fisher Kings
     B. Trinity,
          Conscious Unit
          Pythagorean Tetraktys
          Dr Stephen M Phillips string theory
     C. Oversoul flower & focus personalities
     D. Omphalos
           Lion Kings
          Flower of Life
          Seed of Life
          Saint Peter &153 Fish
          spider webs
          Indra's Net
          soccer ball universe,
          controlling the ring,
          stage play,
     E. Yellow Brick Road,
     F. Karma,
          steps down & up,
     G. Sacred Geometry
     H. Ezekiel's Wagon - Merkabah
          Noah's Ark
          Vehana - vehicle

4. Fields and methods of investigation
     A. Dream-coincidence,
          signposts, guideposts, confirmations
     B. Symbolist world view
     C. Puzzle pieces
     D. Similar to comparative mythology


Difficulty Following the Conversation

There may be difficulty following the audio conversation, as we have just one side of it. Also, some small portions were lost. We hope to imporve this in the future. In the meantime, I am making notes for this page to help explain the missing portions. I have just started this porcess, so it is not yet ready. However, I have placed my rough notes about it below. Click on this link to find them:

Questions Asked by Ryan


Help Pages

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11:11 Related

Humanity On The Pollen Path

This series of articles tells the story of a very unusual revelation of sorts. Starting in 1990, Joseph Mason began to have many dreams. Constant "coincidences" or synchronicities became involved, and seemed to function like guideposts or confirmations of concepts. Joe was led to research many other fields, including the dreams of other people, crop circle formations, ancient symbols, myths and religions. The path also led to the Bible, especially the Book of Revelation, centering around Revelation 11:11. Entirely new interpretations came out of the experience. Humanity has been on a path that corresponds to the chakra levels. We are near the midpoint and a leap to the Heart chakra level of consciousness evolution.

11:11 - Humanity's Leap to the Heart Chakra

This is the original 1996 e-mail article about the Revelation 11:11 connection, expressed in a more comprehensive manner in the "Pollen Path" series. See the link above.

11:11 - What Does It Mean?

Coincidence and 11:11

This contains files of reports from individuals experiencing the 11:11 coincidences. It includes some reports of coincidence with other numbers, such as the "triplets" (111, 222, 333, etc.).

Two Suns - The Connection to 11:11

The Vision - 11:11

Doug Taylor's Dream Vision

11:11 - Positive or Negative?

Message from Solara on the Doorway of 11:11

The NVisible: Solara & the 11:11 Doorway

Sacred Numbers to Resuscitate the Dead -
Lazarus and Awakening the Giant


A related 11:11 number article that expands on some of the ideas. One of the findings is based on lock 288 and key 156 = 444, and one-fourth of those values (72 + 39 = 111). This clearly connects directly with the work of a leading scientist, Professor D. G. Leahy. This is solid evidence that these "wake-up" numbers are about the nature of creation itself.

Stan Romanek's Mystery Equations (Orion wormhole)

Example of 11:11 Crop Circle

Peter Gersten on 11:11

Peter Gersten's PAG-E News

(click on "Multimedia in the menu to hear audio interview)

The Dead Sea Region & The 11:11 bridg Of Orion's Belt

The Man Made Acu-Points That draws its energy from The Belt Of Orion
At The Cities of Petra, Masada, and Jerusalem

The Energies for November 2005
The Doorway to Absolute Integrity : The 11:11:11 Portal

The Great Blue Norther of 11/11/11 (cold wave)


Aztec/Mayan Calendar and 2012


2012: Dire Gnosis

2012 and Crop Formations

All About 2012

Earth/matriX - Charles Johnson


Crop Circles and Creation

Crop Circles - Their Meaning and Connection to Dreams

This web page is the focus of in-depth articles about specific crop circle formations and the apparent meaning. Dreams and "coincidences" and how they relate to ancient symbols from myths and religions, are major factors in the interpretations. Ancient geometry and numbers are included. The crop circle formations, like dreams, are apparently messages from a non-human, high intelligence, and suggest that great changes are near. This page has one of the most extensive list of crop circle links on the Internet.

Crop Circle Formations As Chakras

The Tree of Life Crop Circle Formation

The Interrelated 2005 Crop Circle Formations

The Crop Circle Music Wheel

Tamasisk - Anger - Fury (Kali & The Harlot)

Dreams and Visions of Cats, Kittens, and Other Felines

The Interrelated 2005 Crop Circle Formations

Includes crop circles, events, and coincidences involving numbers, such as:
11, 343, 777, 128, 432, and cycles of time
(11 + 11) x (11 + 11) = 484 (one-tenth of an acre in square yards)
176 (one-tenth of a mile in yards)

Universe could be football-shaped

2001 Mega Glyph
Analysis and Comments

My Father Comes to Visit

The Return of the Feminine

The Seth Entity and "Consciousness Units"



Code of the Ancients

This series of articles presents the work of Carl Munck and others, involving numbers from deep antiquity. The numbers existed prior to written language, and are a "Gematria" system, in which numbers have "word" meanings.

Carl Munck has shown mathematically that ancient sites around the world were very exactly positioned on a world grid coordinate system based on the ancient numbers. The numbers involved relate to the 360-degree circle and its harmonics, to "pi" and the radian.

The numbers are integral to "The Code." Astonishingly, they are found in myths and religions, including the Bible. It is in ancient Metrology (weights and measures) from the near east and west, and in the timekeeping of the Mayans. The numbers are shown to have just two tangents, that when multiplied, result in a number that is the square root of five - which is itself the tangent of the speed of light in air!

Some scholars believe that the numbers were encoded into Holy Scriptures in order to secretly transmit vital information across time itself.

The Cycle of Time Number 432

17 Fish - The Bible and the Stars
(153 Fish in the Net, with diagrams, John 21)

The Message of Cydonia

The Works of Jerry Iuliano
Ancient Numbers Revealed in Scientific Formulas

James Furia's Geomusic

Decoding the Stones with Gridman

Gematria - A Preliminary Investigation of The Cabala

Impossible Correspondence

(ancient weights & measures, & the "Justice" connection)


English Alphanumerics

Synchronicity City

Universal Harmonics - Norma Smith

The New Bible Code - Bill Downie (English Alphanumerics)



Code of the Ancients & the DNA Repair (with audio)
Joseph E. Mason

DNA Formation, Alton Barnes,Wiltshire,17 June 1996 (Pringle)

The Soul in Crooked Soley

DNA Connections
DNA Repair, Dreams and Crop Circle Formations

Birthing The DNA Of Light

DNA Repair (site search)


The American Tragedy: A Symbolic Event, Part One

Number Symbolism - Terrorism - World Trade Center

The Phoenix Lights
March 13, 1997, Arizona

Earth Changes

Predictive Outline of Ideas About the Great Change


Crop Circles

Lucy Pringle's Crop Circle Photograph Library

Crop Circle Connector - 2005 Crop Circles


The Temple

Professor in Jerusalem

Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man, dean
The Academy of Jerusalem
Featuring at:


The Whole City is a Temple


Holy Grail


Dreams and Visions of the Holy Grail and the Second Coming of Christ

Da Vinci Code

Glastonbury Tor
(Grail in Chalis Well)

Puzzle Pieces

The Puzzles of Life - Can We Solve Them?



Fifteen years ago I began to have incredible dreams, and 'coincidences' began to happen all the time. This led me to researching the dreams of others, and to a study of the crop circle formations, myths, religions, and other fields. I began corresponding with people involved with similar work.

The 'coincidences,' or synchronicities continued, and some were very incredible. They seem to work like guideposts or confirmations. The main idea is that dreams, crop circle formations, and other sources are informing us of an enormous world change, or Transformation.

The most clear message I have found is that humanity has been on a path through the chakra, or consciousness levels. We are near the 3 and 1/2 point, and about to make the leap to the fourth, which is the Heart chakra level.


The dreams and coincidences became centered around Revelation 11:11, where the two trees stand up after 3 and 1/2 days. I am not a conventional Christian, but surprisingly, the Bible is where my dreaming path led.

Dee Finney and I are attempting to find the 'Truth' of the matter by putting together the puzzle-pieces. The pieces are coming from many fields, and dreams seem to be a major key in understanding it all. In a sense, this is similar to comparative mythology, but with a much wider view.

We hope that our web site will function as a resource to others. We invite anyone reading this to share their dreams and/or experiences at the site.


Post Show Followup

The show went quite well. At the beginning, Ryan mentioned various numbers that people report seeing often, such as 11:11, 123, 23, and 9. Later in the interview, I mentioned that the number 23 is part of the universal "84" connected numbers that relate to the time cycle.

I mentioned to Ryan that I would put some of that information on this page.

Examples of 3 1/2 in the Bible

1. Rev. 11:9 and 11:11 - 3 and 1/2 days.

2. Rev. 11:2 and 13:5 - 42 months, 3 and 1/2 years.

3. Rev. 11:3 and 12:6 - 1260 days - 3 and 1/2 revolutions on a 360 degree circle, or the Zodiac, or 3 and 1/2 years on the Jewish calendar, which had 30-day months.

4. Daniel 12:7 and Rev. 12:14 - "a time, two times, and half a time" - 1 + 2 + 1/2 = 3 and 1/2.

5. James 5:17 and Luke 4:25 - telling the story in 1 Kings about Elijah's prayer that it not rain, and it did not rain for 3 years six months. Then he prayed again, this time for rain, and Heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth its fruit.

6. Daniel 9:27 - "And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause sacrifice and offering to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator." - half of a week is 3 1/2 days.


Imprisoned - The Five Laws of Freedom

The Revelation of St. John the Divine

Chapter 11 - (A verse-by-verse study) - Eighty-four

So now, we've seen three time periods that are identified with the final tribulation --

70 years,
23 years
and 3 1/2 days --

with God putting especially heavy emphasis on the number 23.

Although these time periods seem to be altogether unrelated, they in fact have something in common. They are all linked to the number 84, which itself is symbolically important.

Eighty-four is the product of 7 times 12.

Seven, of course, represents perfection, and 12, as we noted above, represents the fullness of God's plan, especially as it relates to believers.

So, 84 really stands for the perfect consummation of God's salvation plan for all those whom God has chosen to save. And the final tribulation is really the beginning of the end of God's program.

But how are those three numbers linked to 84?

Well, seventy years have 840 months; t

three and a half days have 84 hours;

and twenty-three years have exactly 8,400 days!
(There are five leap years in 23 years. So, 23 years x 365 days + 5 days = 8,395 days + 5 days = 8,400 days.)

This is not just a coincidence. The mathematical odds for all three time periods having a common denominator in 84 are far too great to be accidental. Rather, it shows once more how wisely God has written the Bible to reveal truths to us.

Also see:

The 23 Enigma -John Sayer

About 23 - By Jim Fournier

Strange Occurances of 23

Certain "coincidental" numbers sometimes happened with the change received when purchasing an item, such as:

1.00 - 0.23 = 0.77
1000 - 223 = 777

A certain time can also be coincidental in two ways, such as:

At 11:11 PM, there are 49  (7 x 7) minutes until midnight


Additional Information and Links Related to Topics Discussed

Ryan also mentioned the number 123. It may be related to the creation process, expressed in one form as the Pythagorean Tetraktys (1, 2, 3, 4) which compares to Tao Te Ching 42:

Chapter 42

The Tao gave birth to One.
The One gave birth to Two.
The Two gave birth to Three.
The Three gave birth to all of creation.

Dee included some information about the Pythagorean Tetraktys in her article:

The Symbolism and Spiritual Significance of the Number Three

It is also interesting that "triplets" can be created by adding "mirror numbers," such as:

123 + 321 = 444
1234 + 4321 = 5555
234 + 432 = 666


I mentioned to Ryan that I wanted to cover three main things regarding the information in the article titled, "11:11 - What Does it Mean?" I managed to tell two of the things (the 11:11 end of the Mayan calendar and Stan's equations), but the third was left out. The information is in the excerpt below.

The Menorah Crop Circle Formation


Update, December 27, 2003

Near the beginning of August 2003, a crop formation appeared that looked like a formation of birds in flight. It has been called the Swallows Formation. Several days ago, our friend and publisher looked at a diagram of the "Swallows" formation and said that it looked like a Menorah when turned upside down.

Dee created a page about the formation:

The Swallows come to Save Earth - Crop Circle

She mentioned in the article that a swallow is shown in the Hopi depiction of Spider Grandmother. This has been on our "Pollen Path" page for some years. Yet another swallow is pictured in part 2 of the article, as part of Dali's painting.

Also in part 1 of the article, we mentioned the Solara 11:11 Doorway, and "11:11 Birdstar." After the Swallows Formation appeared, I looked up the meaning of Birdstar in Solara's book, 11:11 : Inside the Doorway. The following is from page 250:

Once we know that we are One, our Unified Presence takes the form of a vast white bird. This large white bird is composed of myriad small white birds flying in formation as One. It could be termed the Merkabah or the Birdstar. It is our vehicle for mass ascension. (This Birdstar is not a spaceship. It is the expression of our Unified Presence!)


Ryan mentioned that he dreamed of balls of fire coming from the sky, then later heard news reports about such events. This site search shows that we have 531 pages where the words fire and dream appear:

Greatdreams site search for: fire dream

This is the specific page I mentioned when I spoke of "hallfire." -

Lucid Visit to the Great Hall and Dreams of Fire

My son's dream of a piece of the sun falling to earth is on the page.


Drake equation


Fire Bird

Update, 24 November 2005, 6:19 AM

A coincidence just happened. I looked up the above "Phoenix" article because I mentioned it in the interview regarding the symbolism of fire. The article mentions The number 451:

The phoenix was also famed for being a symbol of the rise and fall of society in Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. The pattern of an over complacent and abusive society's destruction yielding a fresh new start was compared to the Phoenix's mythological pattern of consumption by flame, then resurrection out of ashes.

I remembered that I previously speculated that 451 has a mirror of 154, which had a special meaning to me.


At the start of the radio show, Ryan mentioned that he hit a deer on highway 13 that morning (21 November 2005. It was the only time that has happed to him.

13 x 21 = 273
273 + 504 = 777
(13 x 21) + (36 x 14) = 777
(39 x 7) + (72 x 2) = 777
21 x 37 = 777
21 = 7 + 7 + 7

This is an excerpt to show the connections:

Sacred Numbers to Resuscitate the Dead -
Lazarus and Awakening the Giant

One way to look at this set of numbers is:

1 x 72 or 2 x 36 = 72 with 39 ( 3 x 13 or 2 x 19.5) gives 72 + 39 = 111 (37 x 3)

The table below gives numbers that go together in a similar manner to make all the triplets:

1 x 72 or 2 x 36  =   72


39 ( 3 x 13 or  2 x  19.5)


72  +  39 = 111 (37 x 3)

2 x 72 or 4 x 36 = 144


78 ( 6 x 13 or  4 x  19.5)


14478 = 222 (37 x  6)

3 x 72 or 6 x 36 = 216


117 ( 9 x 13 or  6 x  19.5)


216 + 117 = 333 (37 x  9)

4 x 72 or 8 x 36 = 288


156 (12 x 13 or  8 x 19.5)


288 + 156 = 444 (37 x 12)

5 x 72 or 10 x 36 = 360


195 (15 x 13 or 10 x 19.5)


360 + 195 = 555 (37 x 15)

6 x 72 or 12 x 36 = 432


234 (18 x 13 or 12 x 19.5)


432 + 234 = 666 (37 x 18)

7 x 72 or 14 x 36 = 504


273 (21 x 13 or 14 x 19.5)


504 + 273 = 777 (37 x 21)

8 x 72 or 16 x 36 = 576


312 (24 x 13 or 16 x 19.5)


576 + 312 = 888 (37 x 24)

9 x 72 or 18 x 36 = 648


351 (27 x 13 or 18 x 19.5)


648 + 351 = 999 (37 x 27)

The numbers on the left side are based on five-fold and ten-fold designs, such as the pentagon or pentagram, a five-pointed star. Keep in mind that the universe may be based on this type of geometry, as a dodecahedron has twelve pentagons. Five-pointed stars appear frequently as crop circle formations. In a number of cases, a pair of such stars  appear interlaced.



March 12, 2006 Update

Excerpt from:

Phoenix (mythology)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The phoenix was also famed for being a symbol of the rise and fall of society, Montag and Faber in Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. The pattern of an over complacent and abusive society's destruction yielding a fresh new start was compared to the Phoenix's mythological pattern of consumption by flame, then resurrection out of ashes. [End of excerpt]

The number connection about this relates to the "mirror" associations:

451 + 154 = 605
605 / 5 = 121
121 = 11 x 11
65 + 56 = 121
605 + 506 = 1111

154 = 2 x 77
2 x 154 = 308
308 + 803 = 1111
308 x 2 = 616
616 = 8 x 77

The figure 616 seems quite significant:

Excerpts from:

Number of the Beast
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Number of the Beast is mentioned in the Book of Revelation of the Christian New Testament and has long been accepted to be 666. In some interpretations of Christian eschatology the "Beast" is believed to refer to an entity controlled by an Antichrist. The number 666 also has many mathematical properties.

For example, scholars who believe the Book of Revelation refers to real people and events argue that the number represents the value of Nero or Neron Caesar . . . [skip] . . . in Hebrew letters, which also have numerical values under the form of numerology called Gematria (note that Hebrew is written from right to left):























As noted above, some early texts of the Book of Revelation use 616 instead, which would represent the alternative Hebrew spelling . . . [skip] . . . (based on the Latin form "Nero Caesar"):





















Beast's real mark devalued to '616'

666 vs 616



In Quest of the Grail

Pythagorus followed strict rules of initiation, which kept their most potent doctrines shrouded in secrecy, we might expect that the Pythagorean Theorem that is accessible to sophomores would not rank high on their scale of powerful knowledge. Rather, it would be the “elementary” lesson taught to novices in order to point them toward some much deeper mystery. And what might that mystery be? While there is an infinite series of integers that satisfy the second-order equation a^2 + b^2 = c^2, there is only one unique sequence of integers that solve the third-order expression a^3 + b^3 + c^3 = d^3. Those numbers are 3, 4, 5 and 6 -- with 6^3 being equal to 216. If the second-order Pythagorean Theorem defines the geometry of a right triangle, the more esoteric third-order equation refers to the geometry of a figure that extends beyond three-dimensional Space! Add to this the fact that six cubed may be expressed as 6 x 6 x 6, and one would have to agree that the number 216 has a strong whiff of sulfur about it!

Getting back to Mani’s “fourth time”, his chronology appears to dovetail with that of Midrashic sources, which speak of eight “Great Months” extending from Adam’s Fall to the era of the Messiah. Under this reckoning, each “Great Month” consists of 490 years ? a duration derived from the Great Conjunctions of the planets Jupiter and Saturn. Since these were the two outermost planets known to the ancients, the 20-year intervals between their conjunctions constituted the longest astronomical cycles observable within our solar system. Even longer cosmic cycles were based on the position of the great conjunctions in relation to the Zodiac’s four elements or “triplicities” -- Fire, Earth, Air and Water. Astrologers of old observed that the Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions make the transition from one triplicity to the next ? an event they called a “mutation” -- in periods of approximately 240 years. The Great Conjunctions complete a full circuit of the Zodiac in four mutations, a period known as a “great mutation”.

Since the Hebrews’ prophetic “Great Month”, to which Mani was referring, closely corresponds to two mutations, it may be inferred that these “months” begin and end with Great Conjunctions. Furthermore, if the “Great Month” changes at every other mutation, then the great conjunction at the inception of each successive “month” must invariably alternate along the same axis of opposing triplicities -- i.e. either Fire-Air or Water-Earth. According to the Midrashic “Prophecy of Enoch”, the birth of the Messiah was to mark beginning of the eighth “Great Month”. As we have mentioned earlier, Jesus’ actual nativity coincided with the Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions of 7 BC, when the superimposed planets Jupiter and Saturn appeared as the “Star of Bethlehem” in the Water sign Pisces. The great conjunction of the Christ’s nativity was the last of its series in the Water signs, with the next such conjunction (14 AD) located in Sagittarius, a Fire sign. Thus, the Nativity coincided with the Water-to-Fire mutation which launched the eighth “Great Month”. Consequently, we deduce that the Great Conjunctions initiating the “Great Months” must alternate between Fire and Air signs.

Mani’s chronology picks up where the Midrash leaves off, then Mani’s “fourth time” must relate to the four “Great Months” following the eighth “month”, which marked the beginning of the Messianic era. Hence the “fourth time” is equivalent to the Midrashic twelfth “Great Month”. The twelfth “month” extends from 1603 AD to 2020 AD. This “month” opened with a remarkable cosmic prodigy -- the appearance of a bright-red Supernova in the constellation Ophiuchus, very close to the conjunction of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. My reader may recall our earlier discussion of Milton’s vision in Paradise Lost of Satan ascending to his “zenith” in the constellation Ophiuchus. The Supernova appeared on October 9, 1604, the first day of the Jewish festival of Succoth, which is mystically linked to the coming of the Messiah. Within a few days, Supernova 1604 -- or “Kepler’s Star”, as it was also known ? outshone the three planets and every other star in the sky. It would continue to dominate the night sky for 17 months, after which it faded away. The number 17 has apocalyptic connotations, especially with respect to the looming crisis of the Roman Papacy.

The spectacular appearance of Kepler’s Star in 1604 was a veritable signal for the emergence -- or, perhaps better said, re-emergence -- of a number of occult “secret societies” which traced their origins to the medieval Knights Templar. The most prominent of these at the time was the Order of the Rosy Cross, or Rosicrucians. Anonymous Rosicrucian manifestoes spoke of the discovery in 1604 of the tomb of Christian Rosenkreutz ? literally “Christ of the Rosy Cross”. This pseudo-Christ was of the type of the vegetative “Green Man”, who undergoes endless cycles of death and rebirth. The rose is an esoteric symbol for perpetual regeneration, because rose petals distribute themselves around the stem in accordance with the mathematical proportion of the Golden Mean phi, which exhibits the property of self-replication.

The transitional period, during which the twelfth “Great Month” will overlap the thirteenth, began on May 28, 2000, with the great conjunction in Taurus, and will end on December 21, 2020, with the great conjunction in Aquarius. Within this transitional timeframe will fall the end of Mani’s “fourth time”, when we can expect the “Statue”/Beast to be revived.

One intriguing post-script to this little digression of ours will bring us back to our main theme. In the Jewish calendar system, there was a “leap month”, periodically intercalated to reconcile lunar and solar time, which resulted in every nineteenth year containing not twelve but thirteen months. In the context of the prophetic chronology we have been discussing, this thirteenth month, coming as it does after the “end of Time”, fits squarely into the scenario of Christ’s Millennial reign in the New Jerusalem. But we must not overlook the fact that it jives just as solidly with the Manichaean-Arian conception of a purely temporal “Messianic” kingdom based on a regenerated “Adam”.

“Adam” represents the Male principle which generates all of our experience of the manifest Universe. Due to the breakdown of this principle, the Eternal image or archetype of Man residing in the feminine Unconscious becomes static and “frozen”, for lack of renewal by creative Consciousness. Perhaps this is why the Kabbalah teaches that the “son of David” shall not come until all souls that are in the body of Adam “have come out”. In other words, since the Male principle “Adam” is dead, the Female principle can do nothing but replicate his form until it is utterly exhausted of content. At that juncture will appear the “son of David” who, we have thus far concluded, is the false Messiah ? described by Irenaeus as the “recapitulation” of all that has separated humanity from God throughout history.

As the recapitulation of all of the apostasy latent in Adam, the Man of Sin completely empties the moribund form of the collective Male and leaves its place in the Unconscious temporarily vacant. Into that void steps the Son of Man as the archetype of the New Man. The counterpart of the New Man is a renewed Bride, who now reflects His image forth in the fullness of Her Glory. Given that the Bride is traditionally represented by the nuptial Cup, the Parousia is, in a manner of speaking, “rehearsed” in the Eucharistic feast: The Paraclete descends upon the Ciborium, whose transformed Interior brings forth the Body of Christ. And if the Bride is also the Church -- which is to say, the people of God -- then it becomes inevitable that the final act in the salvation of Man is an act of Man himself. It must be so, because evil can only be negated at its source, which is within us ? “Omne malum ab homine”.

Collective humanity must give birth to the Son of Man, just as the Blessed Virgin ? the divine image of God’s people -- delivered Christ out of her own womb. To fathom the meaning implicit in the Pentecost, we need look no further than the presence of Our Lady with the Apostles in the upper room. Her pregnancy came to term in the ninth month, and in the beginning of the ninth “Great Month” our collective pregnancy began, as Jesus himself announced only days before his execution:

And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

To the popular mind, the Second Coming is the apparition of Jesus, Deus ex machina, from outside of Time to end Time. But we must remember that Jesus is the Octave: He is eighth in the line of the Hebrew prophets; his incarnation, as prophesied, occurs in the eighth “Great Month”; the gematria of his name is 888. The eighth simultaneously completes the lower Octave and inaugurates the next higher -- exactly as the Messiah is both the final event of Time and the first event of the new Aeon. Q.e.d., He will not come from outside of Space/Time, but He will come from the Microcosm, which is the Infinite human Interior -- the great Chalice of the ultimate transubstantiation.

Here we begin to limn the outlines of the great Mystery of the Grail, because the instrument of this transubstantiation is itself a thing transformed -- in the twinkling of an eye -- from what it had been. In other words, the Grail of human Redemption is ? up to the last conceivable moment of Time ? the Cup raised to the mouth of the Harlot drunken with the blood of the Saints. Hers is not the blessed Womb, but rather the Cauldron in which the corpse of the old Man may be continually regenerated. It is a purely vegetative generation that follows the mathematical principles known to the antediluvians. As we have seen, the Cainites encoded these secrets on the dual pillars, the prototypes of those that stood outside the Sanctuary of Solomon’s Temple . . . as if waiting for the opportunity to enter. According to the prophecies of Daniel and St. Paul, that opportunity has presented itself, and the day is now upon us when the Abomination generated out of the numerology of those two pillars will boldly stride into the Holy Place.

Of this numerology -- a veritable obsession of the those who follow the contra-Apostolic succession -- we have already stumbled upon several principles. For example, we have observed that the Son of Man is incarnated in the eighth “Great Month” and that He returns to reign in the thirteenth. We have also talked about the Golden Mean, the mathematical proportion of the biological growth spiral, which may be approximated by the ratio eight-thirteenths, or about .616. Quite notably, 616 is the “number of the Beast” in the Greek versions of St. John’s Revelation, because the sum of the numerical equivalents of the Greek letters in “Caesar-god” yields 616. The Golden Mean, phi, is one of those “transcendental” numbers, like pi, that can never be expressed with complete exactness, but rather must be represented by a sequence of ratios that “converge” upon its value. In the case of the Golden Mean, the sequence of ratios that converges on its value is determined by what mathematicians call the “Fibonacci Series”, which looks like this:

1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610 . . .

Tellingly, we find that the Fibonacci Series “generates itself”, insofar as each successive integer is the sum of the two that precede it. This explains why it is the mathematical model of self-replicating growth. No factor external to the succession itself is required for its indefinite extension. Totally lacking, therefore, is the “inspiration” which characterizes Creation. What remains is unexalted, unrelenting growth, of which a cancer cell is perhaps the epitome. If we take the ratio of each successive integer in the Fibonacci series to that which follows it, we get a series of decimals that asymptotically approach the value of phi. Let’s glance at the first few entries in this series:

2:3 = .666      3:5 = .600      5:8 = .625      8:13 = .615 . . .

We observe that this series of ratios converges toward the Golden Mean as we move from the left, but that it equally diverges toward the Beast’s .666 as we move from the right. Hence, it at once describes the left-handed involution of the Female principle toward phi and the complementary right-handed evolution which projects Antichrist upon the plane of manifestation. As we have already recognized, the ratio 8:13 incorporates a diabolical parallel to the two Advents of the Son of Man in the eighth and thirteenth “Great Months”. It relates to the parousia of the Man of Sin on another level -- a cosmic one -- as well. Considering the planetary orbits of the Earth and Venus, we discover the amazing coincidence that they exactly synchronize with each other in the f proportion 8:13. Every eight terrestrial years, Venus completes exactly thirteen orbits around the Sun. Furthermore, as we move “outward” from 8:13 in our series of f-ratios, we next encounter 5:8, which happens to be the ratio of the Earth’s orbital period to the interval of its inferior conjunctions with Venus. Finally, the locations of these conjunctions trace a pentagram on the ecliptic plane every eight years.

In the symbolism of the Tarot and the Grail, which evolved together as systems of Cathar hieroglyphs, the pentacle is associated with the Paschal dish of the Last Supper, or alternately with the platter on which the Baptist’s head was placed. Significantly, the Arian heresy of the medieval Knights Templar also involved the idolatrous adoration of a bearded human head known as Baphomet, which appears to be an amalgam of Baptist and Mahomet. All of these heretical icons derive from the skull of Adam, the ultimate symbol of the continual reincarnation of the dead Male principle out of the Cauldron of the goddess of Eros and Death.

Mythology abounds with examples of this regeneration motif. The Celtic bards or Arthurian times, for example, sang of the ogre Bran, father of Guinevere, who owned the Cauldron of Cerridwen, out of which heroes were reanimated. Bran’s severed head was also consulted for divinatory purposes and was said to ensure the fertility of the land and to protect London from invaders. Many interpreters of the Grail Legend have connected the Celtic ogre Bran with the similarly-named Fisher King Brons and have viewed the Grail Cup itself as a derivative of Bran’s Cauldron. Bran was a vegetative god in the genre of the “Green Man”. His worship involved the now-familiar pattern of periodic fratricide involving his brother Beli -- who, as the name implies, was an offshoot of the Babylonian-Philistine abomination Bel or Baal. The dead god would be ritually interred in an oracular cave constructed to resemble an underground beehive, from which the Queen Bee goddess would attend to his rebirth. As we have learned, the recapitulation of the sacred king invokes the “outward moving” direction of the Fibonacci phi-ratio sequence, which diverges toward .666. Hence we have the hexagonal geometry of the Bran’s beehive tomb, as well as the six-sided format of his brother Beli’s temple at Stonehenge.

Although the archaic rituals of royal reincarnation may strike us as mere primitive superstition, the underlying faith in the Roi perdu -- familiar to us as Tennyson’s “Once and Future King” --  is every bit as pervasive in “modern” cultures. The most obvious example is the unwavering romantic attachment to the figure of King Arthur. Arthur’s name derives from the Welsh for “bear” -- signifying both his extended “hibernation” and his fealty to the ursine lunar goddess, with her monthly cycles of death and rebirth. Among the Germans, there is a strangely similar legend concerning the 12th Century Holy Roman Emperor Frederick Barbarossa. It is written that he never actually died, but fell asleep in a mountain grotto in Thuringia, from whence he will one day return to rule the World for a thousand years. In no small measure, the nightmare of Nazism drew upon the Barbarossa myth to implant its own version of the Thousand Year Reich in the mass psyche.

The detail of Frederick Barbarossa’s somnolence in a Thuringian grotto positively links his legend to that of the heroic knight Tannhäuser, which is celebrated in the Wagnerian opera of the same name. A minnesinger -- the German equivalent of a troubadour -- Tannhäuser was seduced by the goddess Venus and spent seven years indulging his carnal appetites at her court in the Horselloch Cavern of Thuringia. Returning at last to the World, he vainly sought absolution for his sins from one priest after another, appealing finally to the Pope, who dismissed him with the words: “You have as much chance of receiving absolution as this dry wooden staff in my hand has of sprouting green leaves!” Miraculously, the Pontiff’s staff did sprout fresh shoots three days later, but a despairing Tannhäuser had already returned to the pleasures of Venus’ court, where folklore has him remaining “until the end of Time”.

We already know that the sprouting branch is an emblem of a Messianic legacy which is to be falsely claimed by pretenders. But the Tannhäuser-Barbarossa story takes us one step further into the perversion of this scriptural image by introducing the heretical theme of Life from Death. While the Old Testament prophets spoke of a King to come out of the living root of Jesse, the German legends allude to a Great Emperor literally revived from the dead, like Nero redivivus. Interestingly, Nostradamus offers us a variant of this same mythic motif in the following Quatrains:

The tree that had long been dead and withered,
In one night will come to turn green again:
Cronus sick King, stump-footed Prince, . . .
The world on the verge of the end-Time,
Saturn will return again late ...

[C3, Q91-92]

[End of excerpts]


Link added March 25, 2006

666 Revealed


Ryan said that Emily, a listener, wrote an e-mail asking if the Mayans had digital clocks. My answer was "No," but my guess is that advanced information came to them and other ancient peoples through their dreams and visions. This may shed some light on the mysterious matter:


by John Major Jenkins
¾ May 23rd, 1994


Originally published in the Dec-Jan '95 issue of Mountain Astrologer.

Why did the ancient Mayan or pre-Maya choose December 21st, 2012 A.D., as the end of their Long Count calendar? This article will cover some recent research. Scholars have known for decades that the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan "Long Count" system of timekeeping was set to end precisely on a winter solstice, and that this system was put in place some 2300 years ago. This amazing fact - that ancient Mesoameri- can skywatchers were able to pinpoint a winter solstice far off into the future - has not been dealt with by Mayanists. And why did they choose the year 2012? One immediately gets the impression that there is a very strange mystery to be confronted here. I will be building upon a clue to this mystery reported by epigrapher Linda Schele in Maya Cosmos (1994). This article is the natural culmination of the research relating to the Mayan Long Count and the precession of the equinoxes that I explored in my recent book Tzolkin: Visionary Perspectives and Calendar Studies (Borderlands Science and Research Foundation, 1994).


If we add up all the values we find that indicates a total of 1007640 days have elapsed since the Zero Date of The much discussed 13-baktun cycle is completed 1872000 days (13 baktuns) after This period of time is the so called Mayan "Great Cycle" of the Long Count and equals 5125.36 years.

But how are we to relate this to a time frame we can understand? How does this Long Count relate to our Gregorian calendar? This problem of correlating Mayan time with "western" time has occupied Mayan scholars since the beginning. The standard question to answer became: what does (the Long Count "beginning" point) equal in the Gregorian calendar? When this question is answered, archeological inscriptions can be put into their proper historical context and the end date of the 13-baktun cycle can be calculated. After years of considering data from varied fields such as astronomy, ethnography, archeology and iconography, J. Eric S. Thompson determined that correponded to the Julian date 584283, which equals August 11th, 3114 B.C. in our Gregorian calendar. This means that the end date of, some 5125 years later, is December 21st, 2012 A.D.


The Sacred Tree

We are still trying to answer these questions: What is so important about the winter solstice of 2012 and, exactly how were calculations made so accurately, considering that precession should make them exceedingly difficult?

If we make a standard horoscope chart for December 21st, 2012 A.D., nothing very unusual appears. In this way I was led astray in my search until Linda Schele provided a clue in the recent book Maya Cosmos. Probably the most exciting breakthrough in this book is her identification of the astronomical meaning of the Mayan Sacred Tree. Drawing from an impressive amount of iconographic evidence, and generously sharing the process by which she arrived at her discovery, the Sacred Tree is found to be none other than the crossing point of the ecliptic with the band of the Milky Way. Indeed, the Milky Way seems to have played an important role in Mayan imagery. For example, an incised bone from 8th century Tikal depicts a long sinking canoe containing various deities. This is a picture of the night sky and the canoe is the Milky Way, sinking below the horizon as the night progresses, and carrying with it deities representing the nearby constellations. The incredible Mayan site of Palenque is filled with Sacred Tree motifs and references to astronomical events. In their book Forest of Kings, Schele and Freidel suggested that the Sacred Tree referred to the ecliptic. Apparently that was only part of the picture, for the Sacred Tree that Pacal ascends in death is more than just the ecliptic, it is the sacred doorway to the underworld. The crossing point of Milky Way and ecliptic is this doorway and represents the sacred source and origin. In the following diagram of the well known sarcophagus carving, notice that the Milky Way tree serves as an extension of Pacal's umbilicus. The umbilicus is a human being's entrance into life, and entrance into death as well:


This celestial feature was not marginal in ancient Mayan thought and is still rec- ognized even today. In terms of how this feature was mythologized, it seems that when a planet, the sun, or the moon entered the dark cleft of the Milky Way in Sagittarius (which happens to be the exact center of the Milky Way, the Galactic Equator), entrance to the underworld road was possible, which could then take the journeyer up to the Heart of Sky. Shamanic vision rites were probably involved in this scenario. In the Yucatan, underground caves were ritual places used by shaman to journey to the underworld. Schele explains that "Mayan mythology identifies the Road to Xibalba as going through a cave" (Forest of Kings, 209). Here we have a metaphorical reference to the "dark rift" in the Milky Way by way of its terrestrial counterpart, a syncretism between earth and sky which is characteristic of Mayan thinking. Above all, what is becoming apparent from the corpus of Mayan Creation Myths is that creation seems to have taken place at a celestial crossroads - the crossing point of ecliptic and Milky Way.



This has been my attempt to fill a vacuum in Mayan Studies, an answer to the why and how of the end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count. The solution requires a shift in how we think about the astronomy of the Long Count end date. The strange fact that it occurs on a winter solstice immediately points us to possible astronomical reasons, but they are not obvious. We also shouldn't forget the often mentioned fact that the 13-baktun cycle of some 5125 years is roughly 1/5th of a precessional cycle. This in itself should have been suggestive of a deeper mystery very early on. Only with the recent identification of the astronomical nature of the Sacred Tree has the puzzle revealed its fullness. And once again we are amazed at the sophistication and vision of the ancient New World astronomers, the descendants of whom still count the days and watch the skies in the remote outbacks of Guatemala.


I mentioned to Ryan that swastikas had appeared, including one in 2005. I did not get the time to say that it was a pattern which may have suggested the swastika. See:

The Interrelated 2005 Crop Circle Formations
Part Twelve


If you have any questions, or comments please e-mail Joseph E. (Joe) Mason at JMason4557@aol.com

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Extra Excerpts

Transmuting the Warring Attribute

In 1991 I read "The Quartus Report" Number 6, of John Price. In an article titled, "Spiraling Toward Victory," John quoted from "Watchers of the Seven Spheres, published in 1933. Mystic H. K. Challoner transcribed the "consciousness" of the cyclic force we are currently dealing with, the Angel of Sardis (Rev. 1:20), also called, "Lightning." This is an excerpt:

"He who can learn to cup my power within the little chalice of his mind, he who can transmute my elements, my warring attributes, through his own heart's centre, discerning in them th' eternal harmonies of those great Cosmic Forces which oft to men appear destructive, on him my gifts descend."

That seems to be part of what we are learning in the time cycle . . . to "transmute the warring attribute," via the Heart chakra connection.


Wolf Symbolism


Some channeled material says that we are to transmute the warring attribute. I believe this is related to the aggressive nature of mankind and can be symbolized by the dog or wolf. In other words, the warring, divided, state of mankind will be transformed into a unified loving state. This can be symbolized by the negative/positive of the dog or wolf.

Changing from caterpillar (or moth) to butterfly is, perhaps, another dream symbol with a similar meaning.

Divine Breath Symbolism

Information about the Divine Breath started coming in 1990, and continued over the years. There may be an "11:11" connection via the "breath of life from God" statement in Revelation 11:11 -

But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

One of the big messages of the 2005 crop circle formations was the "Breath of the Compassionate" -


From "The Upanishads"

"As smoke and sparks arise from a lighted fire kindled with damp fuel, even so, Maireyi, have been breathed forth from the Eternal all knowledge and all wisdom - what we know as the Rig Veda, the Yajur Veda, and the rest. They are the breath of the Eternal."

                                                                                                                             - Bihadaranyaka

The Verse of Light from the Quran 24:25:

God is the Light of the heavens and the earth;
the likeness of His Light is as a niche
wherein is a lamp
(the lamp in a glass,
the glass as it were a glittering star)
kindled from a Blessed Tree,
an olive that is neither of the East nor of the West,
whose oil wellnigh would shine, even if no fire touched it;

Light upon Light.

Sufi - The Verse Of Light - Quran 24:35

I read "The Verse Of Light" in the book, Sufi, Expressions of the Mystic Quest, by Laleh Bakhtiar. There was also an interpretation:

This psychic structure of the soul has been expressed by Ghazali in an esoteric commentary upon the Verse of Light (Quran 24:35).The niche, as a place of gathering of both sound and light in the outer world, is also a place of gathering inwardly for all sensory perceptions. A focus point, an aperture in the wall, it symbolizes the first inner aspect of the soul, common sense. The glass symbolizes the second, imagination, which like glass is part of the materiality of this world and has a definite dimension; like glass in is making, imagination is at first opaque to the light of the Intellect which transcends direction, quality, and distance.Once the imagination is clarified and refined, it gains a similarity to the Active Intellect, or spiritual Heart, and becomes transparent to the light, just as a glass is needed to protect the candlelight from being dissipated by the wind, so the imagination is needed to control intellectual knowledge and hold the images together.

The third symbol, that of the light-giving lamp, is related to the intelligence (that is, the thinking function or the function of will), for it is this faculty which recognizes the Archetypes or Divine Names and Qualities.

The function of meditation (formed by memory) and reflection is symbolized by the fourth symbol, the tree. Meditation begins with a thought and branches out into others; its conclusions become seeds producing the further growth of thought. The tree is not a fruit tree but the olive trees, the oil of which feeds the lamps; and as opposed to other soils, the oil of the olive increases radiance. This is not any tree, any meditation, but rather meditation upon that 'which is neither of the East nor the West'.

The fifth symbol, the oil, relates to the faculty that is sacred within the human form, the spiritual Heart, or Active Imagination, or Active Intellect: the Spirit of God within us.

Existing in potential in all human beings, it is actualized and made luminous in but a very few. For most people, the acquisition of knowledge must come from without. The active Intellect, on the other hand, is self-luminous with no external source: the oil which 'would shine, even if no fire touched it'.

Thus the psyche (the inner senses) is just one part of a larger totality of the feminine principle or soul, incorporating the outer senses, which moves on the mystic Quest towards spiritual becoming and union with the Spirit. It is in this phase of the journey that one meets with the jinn, the psychic forces within. They constantly intrude with temptations and inclinations which one must actively put aside, or, once again, one will be hindered from continuing the journey.

(end of excerpt)

----- We (Dee and I) used the interpretation as part of this page:

Lucid Visit to the Great Hall and Dreams of Fire

The Verse of Light was significant to me because of my 11:11 related experiences. This relates to Revelation 11:11, where the two olive trees stand up after three days and a half. Revelation 11:11 ties back to Zechariah 3 and 4. The two olive trees (also called lampstands and prophets) stand beside the golden lamp with seven lamps (the Menorah). Some may know that there is an extensive 11:11 coincidence phenomenon:


My personal experiences about this are recorded here:

Humanity On The Pollen Path

(long version)

11:11 - Humanity's Leap to the Heart Chakra

(short version)

Joe's Starry Night 11:11 Coincidence

Subj: 11:11 from thailand
Date: 12/23/2002 1:10:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: joe
To: jmason4557@aol.com


my name is joe and i am a Thai i have been seeing 11:11 (always in PM) in my car's digital clock for over a year now when i drive back from work. I kept asking my friends whether they have seen the same but nobody have seen it. It gets worse now i see it almost everyday, and tonight i just saw it on my powerbook (on time remaining status of internet connection while i was searching to see if anybody see the 11:11 on their digit clocks.

i thought i was the only one and about to go insane.

i found the 2 interesting sites :




Subj: Re: Re:11:11 Coincidence
Date: 1/17/2003 5:08:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: joe
To: JMason4557@aol.com


this is joe (joseph) from thailand i have read your email and all the hair of my back started to stand up.

we should have a chance to chat one day.

thank you for your response..


<< JMason4557@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/23/2002 1:10:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, joe writes:

<< Subj: 11:11 from thailand >> (snip)

<< i have been seeing 11:11 (always in PM) in my car's digital clock for over a year now when i drive back from work. >> (snip)


Dear Joe,

I accidentally sent the previous e-mail before I was finished.

I wanted to inform you about a coincidence that happened. As I was reading your e-mail, my friend, Claudia from Germany contacted me in an Instant Message conversation. We talked about art. I told her that her paintings remind me of those of Vincent Van Gough, the famous artist. I sent her his painting called "Starry Night."

After we finished our conversation, I started to read one of the pages you listed (http://members.aol.com/SeeingBelieving/Chapter13.html).

I soon came to this statement:

"Vincent (Starry, Starry Night)
Don McLean

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They did not listen, they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will."

The song is apparently based on the painting by Vincent Van Gough.

It was quite a significant coincidence!

I wrote an e-mail to Claudia last night informing her about this, and giving the link to the page. This morning I received this e-mail from her:


Subj: Re: Starry Night Coincidence
Date: 12/24/2002 2:13:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Claudia
To: JMason4557@aol.com


I just opened the link on your mail, the same second my computer clock switched to 11:11 . This is crazy :-)

it is just so crazy to find that you´re really onto something




I live in California, so there is about a nine hour time difference between us.

Thanks again for sharing.


Joe Mason

P.S. As I was composing this e-mail, I did a search and found that the painting I sent to Claudia was this one:

Vincent van Gogh: The Paintings (Starry Night Over the Rhone)

He painted another one that was called simply, "Starry Night" -

Vincent van Gogh: The Paintings (Starry Night)

11: 11 Coincidences - 2003

Subj: Vincent, Starry Starry Night - 11:11 Coincidence
Date: 2/2/2003
From: JMason4557@aol.com
To: josintown@XXX

<< Subj:Re: Re:11:11 Coincidence


this is joe (joseph) from thailand i have read your email and all the hair of my back started to stand up. we should have a chance to chat one day. thank you for your response.. joseph >>


Hello again Joseph.

I am sending Dee The "coincidence" regarding the 11:11 link in your e-mail, and the song, "Vincent, Starry Starry Night," became even more coincidental since our last exchange. I should have recognized this right away, but for some reason, it took a couple of days. Now, here's the rest of the story -

Around mid-December 2002, Dee asked if I wanted her to type up any of my old handwritten articles. I have a big stack of these, which I had sent copies to various people in the early 1990s, primarily to crop circle researchers. They are reports of various dreams, coincidences, and related material that, in most cases, became connected with various crop circles. The crop circle formations generally came after the dreams and coincidences.

I looked through the stack of my old articles and selected the one about the Mandelbrot Set crop circle formation of 1991. It contained 23 handwritten pages. There were 41 pages of attached photocopies.

Dee began working on the project right away, and was finished typing the 23 pages of the main article about a week later. I then began to review and edit the article, adding graphics, comments, and such, in preparation to uploading the article to our web site.

Very shortly after I began this work, on December 23, 2002, "our Vincent, Starry Starry Night - 11:11 coincidence" happened. I reported this to Dee, and you right away.

On January 4, 2003, Dee put a CD into her computer. Soon, we were hearing "Starry Starry Night." The young man singing was Josh Groban. We had listened to this before, but had forgotten where we heard it. We did not realize before that the song was about Vincent van Gogh, although I did know that one of the artist's paintings had that name.

On January 5, 2003, another coincidence happened. We were watching the football playoff game between "my team" the 49ers and the New York Giants. The 49ers got behind by about two touchdowns, so I looked for another program to watch. I clicked the remote control to bring up the satellite TV menu. Dee shouted, "Josh Groban!" It was on the PBS station. I chose it and Josh appeared singing, "Vincent, Starry, Starry Night."

Later, we drove to nearby Hickman to pay the rent, then picked up Mexican dinners. At the restaurant, the 49er game was on. The score was something like 38 to 21. By the time I left, the score was 38 to 30. When I got home, I turned the game on. Incredibly, the 49ers came back to win a most crazy game. It is the second greatest comeback in NFL playoff history. They were down 24 points (38 to 14) in the second half. The final score was 39 to 38.

Interestingly the combined score is 39 + 38 = 77, while 49 is 7 x 7. Twice 77 is 154, which is close to 153. And the date was 1-5-03. The story of the 153 Fish in the Net in John 21 has been a big part of the coincidences recently. More on that later.

By-the-way, American Football, like so many things, is symbolic and includes the 11:11 in that there are 11 players on the field from each team. I wrote about this years ago:


Later, I found this page:

Great Performances. Josh Groban in Concert | PBS

I also looked up the lyrics of the song:

Don Mclean Song Lyrics - Vincent, Starry Starry Night

I worked more on my Mandelbrot Set crop circle page January 4, 5, and 6. I returned to work on January 7. Around 6:45 AM, I suddenly realized the meaning of these coincidences. During the previous days, I had added graphics to the Mandelbot article that included a painting of Vincent van Gogh. Take a look:

The Mandelbrot Set Crop Circle Formation

The painting is "Iron Bridge At Trinquetaille."

Other graphics show the comparison between the painting and the crop formation known as "The First Pictogram."

First Pictogram                van Gogh Detail

These same drawings are also a part of our book:

Barnes & Noble.com - Great Dreams: A Quest for Truth

The comparison involves the two sets of rectangular boxes, one on each side of the main figures. This is, of course, the basic 11:11. I did not mention it in the article or in the book, because the experiences happened prior to my knowledge of the 11:11 phenomenon. That material started coming in the following year.

I did mention the 11:11 as possibly related to the First Pictogram in a previous article, near the end of the page:

Humanity On The Pollen Path


<< I later learned of Solara's suggestion that the rectangles in some of the crop circle formations, such as "The First Pictogram," represent the "11:11 Doorway." >>

When I first learned of Solara's claim concerning the "11:11" crop circle formations, I tended to dismiss it. There did not seem to be any supporting evidence to the claim, other than the shape.

The 11:11 phenomenon became a much more central part of my own experiences in the following years. Still, I did not promote the idea of the 11:11 interpretation of the rectangular boxes as parts of crop circles.

The "Vincent, Starry Starry Night" coincidence on the "11:11" page sent to me by you, Joseph, was like a statement from Vincent himself saying, "Oh yes! It IS the 11:11!"

There was a group of crop circles in Canada during 1999 that apparently included the 11:11 message:

FNEN Greatlake Region and Ontario Region

[Note: The above page may not show the text, as the background color may be the same color. To view the text, choose "Edit - Select All" from the top menu. It may show properly on a different browser, such as Netscape.]

See the second page, linked at the bottom as, "Spiritual Interpretation."

I placed this at the end of my Mandelbrot article:

<< A chain of incredible coincidence happened as this article was being prepared for this web page. Part of this relates to an article that I printed out months earlier, but did not read until this page was under construction. The article, which is actually chapter five of a book, makes extensive comparative analogies between chaos theory, fractals, and the Mandelbrot Set, to the Tree of Life. The author, T.J. Germinario, has a very extensive and sophisticated knowledge of these subjects. See:

The Year of Jubilee - A Season in Hell

I will be adding yet other "coincidence" material to the Mandelbrot article in time.


Joe Mason

The New Jerusalem

Subj: RE: The Jerusalem Temple
Date: 8/2/2005 7:39:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man
To: JMason4557@aol.com

Dear Joseph Mason

Greetings from Jerusalem

Thank you so much for the selection you made me of recent crop circles and their possible relation the hypercube. This is precisely what I'm supposed to work now on. Do you happen to read Hebrew (I noticed you used some Hebrew gematria) and do you have Hebrew fonts on your computer? If so, I'd lime to send you drafts of a short appendix (5 pages) and article I need to write now about the tesseract and the Dome of the Rock. If not, you can still enjoy the international language of Vision and look at the New Jerusalem hypercube as it appears in the first two (the oblong ones) of the "Heavenly Temple Show" at thehope.org Art Gallery.

Again, I am afraid that most of my material about Joseph is only in Hebrew as yet. But let me throw in a snippet about the cube and about Joseph. As you may well know, the number 26 has some special importance in the Hebrew Bible (gematria of the Tetragramaton YHWH). But gematrias are mostly meaningless if they have no geometry aspect. 26 is the number of directions in cubic (3D) space. A 3x3x3 = 27 cube has a central cube and 26 surrounding cubes (also, correspondingly, the cube has 26 elements - 6 sides, 12 edges and 8 vertices). Now the Biblical Hebrew names of the three generations: Isaac, Jacob and Joseph have gematria of 208, 186 and 156, that is 26x8, 26x7 and 26x6. What could these further mean? I regard "Yoseph" (literally "will increase/add" as the likely Christian/Western addition to the New Israel, and am inclined to think these represent relative portions in the whole (cycle) of 26x12 = 312 divisions. Joseph has no majority share but just parity, which would make him more agile.

I'd be happy to learn of what you make of that and what do you find in the name and figure of Joseph.

In amity

Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man, dean
The Academy of Jerusalem
Featuring at www.thehope.org


-----Original Message-----

From: JMason4557@aol.com [mailto:JMason4557@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:08 PM
To: Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man
Subject: Re: The Jerusalem Temple

In a message dated 8/2/2005 1:48:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man writes:

<< Subj: RE: The Jerusalem Temple >> (snip)

<< You can find it at thehope.org "Dome of the Rock Gallery". I use this diagram extensively, and I shall be extremely happy if you ever inform me of finding that form among crop circles. >>


Dear Dr. Yitzhaq Hayut-Man,

The information from these links, I believe, relate in a certain way:

8 Fold with hexagrams, 17 July 05, Milk Hill, near Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire

3, 6, & 8 Fold Glyph at Milk Hill,17 July 05,near Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire

Hypercube - New Jerusalem, 24 July 05, Avebury Henge, near Avebury, Wiltshire

Hypercube, Heart Chakra, 24 July 05, Avebury Henge, Near Avebury, Wiltshire

There is more, some quite specific to the posters on your site. But I know you are busy, so I will cut it off here.

I am familiar with John Michell, and his association with the crop circles.

Some crop circles have appeared near sites associated with the Knights Templar, who are said to have a connection to the Masons. I also read that the Templars learned most of their secret knowledge from the Sufi in the Holy Land.

There is a lot of "double boxes" type crop circles, which is like the Sufi patterns, especially the Breath of the Compassionate.


Joseph E. (Joe) Mason


Sacred Numbers to Resuscitate the Dead - Lazarus and Awakening the Giant

Clue to the 11:11 association with awakening

  "Thus he spoke, and then he said to them, 'Our friend Lazarus  
     has fallen asleep, but I go to awake him out of sleep.'"

                                                                                                John 11:11

Another clue to the 11:11 association with awakening

  "For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues
   and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refused to let them be placed in
   a tomb, and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make
   merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a
   torment to those who dwell on the earth."              
Revelation 11:9, 10

  "But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them,  
   and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them."
                                                                                                          Revelation 11:11

Numeric clue: The midpoint of the seven chakras, or three and a half,
is a universal elementary idea found worldwide. The midpoint is
the heart chakra, which has the color green, and is symbolized
by a twelve petal lotus flower with a Star of David inside. The
English Alphanumeric of "green" is 49.

11:11 clue indicating the year, hour, and minute of the end of the cycle








































In the 28 years listed on the page from which the above table was taken, only the one 11:11 universal time is given. The end of the Mayan calendar falls on December 21, 2012. That is the famous "End Date" -

The How and Why of the Mayan End Date in 2012 A.D.

Perhaps it is significant that 100 years after the sinking of the Titanic, the Mayan end date comes. A common factor seems to be the 11:11 AM times of the end of World War One on 11-11-1918 and the exact moment of the Mayan cycle end.

Clue to the 11:11 association with Lost Tribes.

 "In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover  
 the remnant which is left of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from  
 Pathros, from Ethiopia, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from  
 the coastland of the sea."

On March 11, 1992 ,a voice spoke in my dream, saying, "Cycle of time . . . [long pause] . . . to identify the Lost Tribes." I saw an image of a circular swirled pattern.

Seven years later, on July 4, 1999, a similar pattern appeared as a crop circle formation near Hackpen Hill, near Broad Hinton, Wiltshire. It was called the Crescent Vortex. The geometry of the formation was similar to a pattern developed by Wolfgang Held, showing the zones of total solar eclipses over a period of time, called, "Saros-Cycle 145."

I have found that other people have had dreams about the Lost Tribes.

On August 11, 1999, an amazing solar eclipse took place, along with a "Grand Cross" alignment of the planets. The "Diamond Ring Effect" happened at 11:11 AM over Cornwall, England. Coincidentally, there are many legendary connections to the Lost Tribes related to Cornwall and Great Britain.

The terrorist attacks on 11 September 2001 also seemed to be a symbolic event. The 11:11 was one part of it. The Lost Tribes were another part.

Part of this symbolic story relates to Joseph Smith and the Mormons, along with the city of Salt Lake, Utah. Great Britain and the USA symbolically represent the two sons of the Biblical Joseph, the eleventh son of Jacob.

(ancient weights & measures, & the "Justice" connection)


“The ancients attributed to numbers a mystical virtue of which today we can hardly realize the full importance. In this matter, their prejudices were so great that I do not think I am exaggerating when I consider number mysticism as having operated as the essential basis of most of their knowledge.”

One of the central ideas of ancient metrology is explained by the much read and little understood Fifth Book of Aristotle’s Ethics, in which the idea of justice is explained by referring to money and to the price structure. This book explains why money is called by the same name that applies to civil law and to natural law (nomos) and why this term is synonymous with arithmos; metrology first developed as an attempt to assure justice in the contract of sale by mathematizing the relation.

The origins of the art of legislation and of legal science are to be found in lists that state how many measures of a given commodity would correspond to a measure of another commodity. Once one takes this practical outlook, one can see how, in the Bible, the idea of Divine Providence is linked with the methods used in the rationing of food, of which Greek inscriptions provide the most abundant evidence.

Once one keeps in mind the metrological aspects of the idea of Providence, one can see the meaning of the word epiousios in the Lord’s Prayer, a word on the interpretation of which an entire library has been written.

One must keep in mind the ethical aspects of metrology to see in the Gospels the metrological reasons for the two miracles of the multiplication of the bread, the Feeding of the Four Thousand and the Feeding of the Five Thousand. In metrology, one must steadily shift from metaphysical and ethical presuppositions to practical aspects. This has been the concern of Greaves and Bernard, who came to metrology from the study of cosmogony but at the same time travelled extensively in the Orient and saw the ancient system of metrology still used by the Arabs.

[End of excerpts]

This is a Biblical example:

When he opened the third seal,
I heard the third living creature say, "Come!"
And I saw, and behold, a black horse,
and its rider had a balance in his hand;
and I heard what seemed to be a voice
in the midst of the four living creatures saying,  
"A quart of wheat for a denarius,
and three quarts of barley for a denarius;
but do not harm oil and wine!"

                                                                                Revelation 6:5, 6



The following is an excerpt from Joe Mason's addition to the 11:11 article, after reading David P.'s dream of the two suns on December 31, 1996:

"Several days ago, I wrote, and then posted an essay, in which I spoke of the symbolism of two suns. I did not explain why I put it that way. I will explain it here.

In "Black Elk Speaks," he tells why shaman circle to the left. You are born in the South, where the sun always shines. Then you travel west, where the sun sets. You then travel north, where the white hairs live. Then, you face east, where the sun dawns, and the Day Break Star shines. Finally, you return to the South, and are returned to the earth. The more you think about this, the more sense it makes.

My dream-coincidence path led me to speculate about the symbolism of the film, "2001:Space Odyssey." It begins with a solar eclipse showing the Diamond Ring. (marriage of Heaven and Earth). An unknown intelligence, the obelisk, helps the ape use tools, setting the evolution of man in motion. The intelligence departs, and waits until the apes develop the intelligence to reach the moon, and find the obelisk that was left there long ago.

When it is uncovered, it sends out a signal to space, and the Odyssey begins. Dave Wilcock informed me that in the original book, the destination was Saturn, rather than Jupiter, which is very interesting concerning the Companion to the Hale-Bopp comet.

The astronauts in hibernation are killed first. (those asleep when the Great Change happens). Dave (which means Love) is the lone survivor (the final spiritual journey must be done alone). HAL is taken from IBM (I B(e), (I) (aM), being one letter shifted. He symbolizes the gestalt of the rational mind, an artificial intelligence with no Heart, the collective selves disconnected. He is programmed to complete the mission, even if all the humans must be killed. Dave goes to the Heart of the Ship (body-vehan, vehicle), and disables HAL. HAL breaks down, and starts to remember (awaken from self-imposed amnesia) his childhood (origin), singing, "Daisy, daisy, . . . on a bicycle built for two."

The bicycle has appeared as a crop formation, and other patterns are similar. I believe this concerns the duality of creation, and within ourselves.

The six-petal daisy came to me through dreams, as it is made up from interlocking circles in a ring. It has appeared many times in various forms as a crop formation. In my case, it also represented a closed aperture, like that on a camera. The North sun symbol in the Barbury Castle formation was similar. My dream-coincidences indicated that it would open, letting in the Seventh Ray on the Seventh Day of Creation (we are not Man yet). It is the Lost Pleiad of the Pleiades, and the Angel that rises from the Dawning Sun in Revelation 7, to mark the foreheads. (those who have stayed awake).

The Hopi depict a 12-petal sun flower in their Creation myth of Spider Grandmother. She teaches us how "to weave" after the fourth step (Heart chakra), and emergence into the Sunlight. Tantra, in Sanskrit means, "to weave." The Lotus of the Heart has 12 petals, and I believe it is related to the New Jerusalem.

This year (1996), a six-petal pattern appeared with smaller circles around the major one, which produced a Star Of David in the center. This is a strong clue, as I see it, of the aperture opening, and the leap to the Heart Chakra by humanity en masse.

Dave is transformed into a baby (re: Rev. 12) in a bubble, heading back to Earth. A new cycle of evolution is about to begin.

When I saw the sequel, "2010," I was a bit disappointed, until I woke up to the symbolism of the two Suns at the end. The Sun and the Daybreak Star, Venus, correspond to Adam and Eve, in my dream interpretations. We were created with a much larger male/rational/left-brain aspect. We only have a rib-sized portion of the female/intuitive/dreaming/right-brain aspect. As we awake from our dreams in the morning, and things "dawn" on us, the two lights are up there in the sky (at times). As the sun rises, the Morning star fades into invisibility overpowered by the sun, that is, our feminine side has even less function in daytime.

The symbolic meaning of two Suns becomes clear. Our Venus aspect will grow to match the Sun aspect. This is symbolized in a number of other ways in the crop formations, and in dreams. In the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Jesus said in saying number 22, that one must make the male and female into a single one, in order to enter the Father's domain. The most clear crop pattern that had this symbolism had the female sign of Venus joined together with the male sign of Mars.

2001 Space Odyssey Update
January 22, 2006

Earlier this month I received one of the PAG E-NEWS e-mails from Peter Gersten. I found the following excerpts significant:

Subj: PAG E-NEWS: 6 January 2006
Date: 1/6/2006 3:03:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Peter
To: jmason4557@aol.com


These mysterious plaques were first brought to my attention last year by the Mac "American Martian" Tonnies who spotted one in his hometown of Kansas City. On one of the Toynbee web sites you can click on a link labeled "Our Own Findings" and find, "Due to the sensitive (not to mention inconclusive) nature of our findings, we're not going to post them at this time. We haven't come to any concrete conclusions yet, nor have we okayed publishing our theories with the people involved. So stay tuned."

I just love that expression! Maybe the tiles are a way of "staying tuned." Maybe that is what this reality is all about - staying tuned to the cosmic frequencies and harmonies of the Universe. Hmm, I wonder if I should purchase two sweatshirts? Stay Tuned!

[end of Peter's e-mail]

Image credit: Vargr

Message of the Tiles:

 IN KubricK's '2001

!! You!! AJ . .? .

MOViE '2001

Excerpts from:

Toynbee Tiles in Indianapolis
5/22/04, updated 1/15/06

Last year while walking downtown on my lunch hour, I noticed an odd sign embedded in the cross-walk at the intersection of Meridian and Maryland streets [image]

I wondered what these tiles meant, but I figured that they must be some kind of urban art project. I didn't really think that much more about them. On May 15th, 2004 I was performing a Google search on a completely unrelated topic, and somehow ended up on a website entitled What Is It? I had struck memetic gold. These tiles (also frequently referred to as "plaques" or as "signs" in online discussions) have been an urban crop circle phenomenon since their initial discovery sometime in the 1980's. Over 130 tiles have been documented, spread throughout the eastern United States, as well as 3 in South America. [skip]

No one has yet been able to conclusively determine who is responsible for the creation of these tiles.

[end of excerpts]


Also see:

What Is It?


After I reviewed the Toynbee Tiles pages, and learning that Toynbee was an historian, I looked up the name and found this:



S: (n) Toynbee, Arnold Toynbee, Arnold Joseph Toynbee (English historian who studied the rise and fall of civilizations looking for cyclical patterns (1889-1975))

This seemed to fit with the idea that the primary message of the movie, "2001:Space Odyssey," was about an evolutionary time cycle.

I searched for - 2001 awaken dead and found my article at the top:

Sacred Numbers to Resuscitate the Dead -
Lazarus and Awakening the Giant

The words of the Toynbee Tiles message finds my articles quite well when the word "resuscitate" is used instead of "resurrect."

Search: movie 2001 resuscitate dead Jupiter

The 9-11-2001 events became symbolically related to the message of the movie in my mind. Here are a few excerpts:

The American Tragedy:
A Symbolic Event
September 11, 2001

Also eleven years ago (1990), I experienced a coincidence that seemed to connect Bob Beamon's great leap in the long jump competition 33 years ago during the 1968 Olympic Games with the moon landing the following year. This was a "giant leap for mankind," indicating symbolically a great change on a spiritual level, as well as great changes in humanity's ways of living and being.

Note added April 8, 2002:

Note that the number on Bob Beamon's shirt is 254. September 11, 2001 was the 254th day of the year.
[end note]

Soon, I related the events and various dreams to the symbolism of the film, 2001: A Space Odyssey. The moon was a key. The idea is that an unknown intelligence, represented by the obelisk, influences evolution by teaching one ape how to use a weapon, the jawbone of an animal. That ape's tribe is shown defeating a rival tribe at a watering hole. In celebration, an ape throws the jawbone into the air. As it rotates it changes into a space ship in the year 2001.

The unknown intelligence apparently departed and let the apes develop through evolution via "survival of the fittest." An obelisk has been found on the dark side of the moon. After being dug up and exposed, it begins to send signals out into space. The space odyssey soon begins, as a space ship is sent to find the source of the signals.

The talking computer, HAL, starts to malfunction, and soon all the people on the space ship are dead except for Dave. On June 1, 1991, a voice spoke in my dream, saying, "Hal is the collective selves not connected (Through the subconscious), the computer's not hooked together. Lack of communication is often a problem." The idea came that HAL symbolizes the rational side of the mind in its negative aspect that is unknowingly "programmed" through the unconscious. HAL is programmed to carry out the mission, to reach the destination, even if all the human beings must be killed. Dave disables HAL and continues to Jupiter, where the ship enters through a gigantic obelisk into another dimension.

Dave ages quickly, becoming a very old man. Another obelisk appears at the foot of the bed. A baby in a bubble floats in the air. The baby in the bubble is shown in space, and heading back to the Earth.

The unknown intelligence left the obelisk on the moon aeons ago, knowing that when the apes evolved in rational intelligence enough, the descendance would eventually travel to the moon and find the obelisk. It was programed to send the signal indicating that the next great leap in mankind's evolution was ready to begin.


The Real Space Odyssey Begins

The colossal disasters of September 11, 2001 match the symbolism that I have been following so very well, I am convinced that the real space odyssey has begun. I intend to present convincing evidence for this in this article.

Areas of supporting evidence were on-line prior to the disaster as part of our research at greatdreams.com. This article will direct the way to the various pages, as puzzle pieces of this story. Larger "pictures" will develop, you will see.

Today, as I start this article, the date is September 27, 2001. To avoid delay, I will start by placing some e-mail reports below, along with updated comments and links. This tends to work backwards in time, but I think it is the best way to present the story at this point. I will be adding material and updating the page often.


An unknown intelligence has been communicating with mankind from the beginning in the form of symbols. Although recognized by past cultures, this has been rejected by the modern scientific world. "Contact" is now being made by that unknown intelligence as it has never been made before. Crop circle formations are just one example. They have grown in number and complexity over the past two decades. Some of the formations are similar to ancient symbols that still appear in dreams. If you believe that the formations are hoaxes, please read this article:

Arguments Against the Hoax Theory of Crop Circles

The UFO/ET events are part of the symbolic messages. For the most part, the ETs do not seem to be creatures from other planets, but non-physical entities from another dimension. We have been overlooking the symbolic messages of these events.

Coincidences and synchronicities are increasing and becoming more meaningful to people, such as the "11:11" phenomenon (see links below). Many become convinced that the repeated coincidental events are far beyond chance, and are therefore meaningful, perhaps a "wake-up call" of some kind.

The 11:11, 11, and other number coincidences involved in the 9-11-2001 disasters have been reported over the internet soon after the tragedy. Many , including Dee and I, have been experiencing and/or researching these numbers for quite some time.

We and others have also followed coincidental symbols and numbers in other tragic events, including various airplane disasters.


2001:Space Odyssey Links

Kubrick2001 - The Space Odyssey Explained
(requires Flash 6 player)

Underview's 2001

The Search for Meaning in 2001 - Space Odyssey

2001 Internet Links

HAL's Legacy: 2001's Computer As Dream and Reality

Related Link

Cosmic Computer Consciousness
"We are all like wireless workstations on the Cosmic Computer"

The "Real" Obelisk of 2001:Space Odyssey

[excerpts from: http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/olgtch/olgtch.htm
Predictive Outline of Ideas About the Great Change
[written in 1992]

15. The film "2001: Space Odyssey" symbolically portrayed the great change. An unknown intelligence, represented by the obelisk, controls evolution from apes to man, developing rational intelligence. When the obelisk is found on the moon millions of years later, it communicates to space that it is time for the next evolutionary step. The computer, HAL, represents the collective selves not connected, an artificial intelligence with no heart. The astronaut Dave's experience represents the lone spiritual journey. He goes to the heart of the craft and disables HAL. The computer breaks down and sings, "Daisy, Daisy . . . on a bicycle built for two."

The Daisy is a symbol of the Oversoul and the bicycle, the aspects balanced. Daisy-like crop patterns appeared in 1991, along with a flower profusion in England. Bicycle-like crop patterns appeared, such as those at Pepperbox Hill and the "insectograms." The film ends with Dave transformed into a baby in a bubble heading back to earth. A new cycle of evolution begins.

16. East is the direction of enlightenment. When you awake from the dreaming and things "dawn" on you, the sun is rising in the east and the morning star, Venus, shines for awhile. The two lights are the symbolic equivalent of Adam and Eve, that is, a large male/rational aspect, and a small female/intuitive one. In the film, "2010," the sequel to "2001," the earth receives two suns. Symbolically, this is the balancing of the aspects involved in the great change.

17. There may be an actual equivalent to the obelisk. Recent satellite photographs revealed a perfect ring of circles at the Yucatan. They are the Sacred Cenote holes, or natural wells. The wells are now thought to mark the spot where the great meteorite struck 65 million years ago that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and other large species. Core samples revealed crystalized quartz 1,100 meters below ground.

Scientist J.J. Hurtak claims to have had a spiritual visitation in 1973. He wrote "The Keys of Enoch," telling of a great evolutionary leap for mankind. A map of the Yucatan is shown in the book, called "The Sacred Grid". Lines are drawn between megalithic sites revealing a three-part triangle. It's quite similar to the Barbury Castle pictogram. Dr. Hurtak was told that this area had triangular grids of crystal and is a communication point with the heavens. It will be involved in a grid shift and alignment effecting the changes here.

The Sacred Grid

Some dowsers say that the energy grid is associated with naturally sited, underground quartz. There may be a seven-mile wide crystal underground at the Yucatan functioning like a radio oscillator, effecting the energy grid.

27. Other dimensions of reality are also involved. The UFO's and E.T.'s are primarily from these other dimensions. Marian apparitions and similar phenomenon are from these other dimensions. Our beliefs about them strongly influence how they appear to us. A more direct contact will be the norm in the future.

28. Strange phenomena will increase and may take various forms, such as clouds forming symbolic patterns, objects raining from the sky, and spiritual apparitions.

Chicxulub Crater Dream

Date: February 07, 2005 at 18:50:35
From: Cork in MN,
Subject: Chicxulub Crater

This has been nagging me all day, so I finally decided to post it.

I had TWO dreams last night of a birds-eye view of the Chicxulub Crater. The area was transformed. Haiti had vanished and land had risen between Cuba and Florida. I saw two ships trying to determine if they could enter the Gulf of Mexico through the small remaining passage off the Western tip of Cuba. They wanted to explore what was left of the U.S. Gulf Coast. The Panama area had sunk. (Tail of the Turtle?) Ships approached from both the Caribbean and the Pacific. They succeeded in passing and the Pacific ship headed east past Cuba and Florida and the Caribbean ship went west up the Yucatan and around the coastline of Texas.

I saw only the map and the plots of the routes of the ships in both dreams. It seemed important that I should remember the maps.

Atlantis rising? I believe it was Hapgood and Cotterell that thought the area was part of Atlantis and Cayce said that Atlantis would rise again. I know there was exploration of one end of Cuba for underwater ruins a couple of years ago. Linda Moulton Howe followed it for a while, but I haven't heard anything more about it in some time.

So that's it! FWIW. Cork


Followup Post: Chicxulub Crater Dream

[Image of the Sacred Grid - see above]

Date: February 08, 2005 at 13:01:08
From: Joseph E. Mason,
Subject: Chicxulub Crater
URL: Predictive Outline of Ideas About the Great Change

The graphic above shows the "Sacred Grid" that covers some of the Yucatan region of Mexico. The Chicxulub Crater is centered near the city of Merida. Many Sacred Cenote wells mark the boundary of the crater zone, as they were formed by the impact of the great meteorite.

One of the Sacred Cenote Wells is located at Chichen-Iza, the ancient site near the top right on the above map.

The article linked above explains some of the meaning, as it came to me years ago.


15. The film "2001: Space Odyssey" symbolically portrayed the great change. An unknown intelligence, represented by the obelisk, controls evolution from apes to man, developing rational intelligence. When the obelisk is found on the moon millions of years later, it communicates to space that it is time for the next evolutionary step. The computer, HAL, represents the collective selves not connected, an artificial intelligence with no heart. The astronaut Dave's experience represents the lone spiritual journey. He goes to the heart of the craft and disables HAL. The computer breaks down and sings, "Daisy, Daisy . . . on a bicycle built for two." The Daisy is a symbol of the Oversoul and the bicycle, the aspects balanced. Daisy-like crop patterns appeared in 1991, along with a flower profusion in England. Bicycle-like crop patterns appeared, such as those at Pepperbox Hill and the "insectograms." The film ends with Dave transformed into a baby in a bubble heading back to earth. A new cycle of evolution begins.

16. East is the direction of enlightenment. When you awake from the dreaming and things "dawn" on you, the sun is rising in the east and the morning star, Venus, shines for awhile. The two lights are the symbolic equivalent of Adam and Eve, that is, a large male/rational aspect, and a small female/intuitive one. In the film, "2010," the sequel to "2001," the earth receives two suns. Symbolically, this is the balancing of the aspects involved in the great change.

17. There may be an actual equivalent to the obelisk. Recent satellite photographs revealed a perfect ring of circles at the Yucatan. They are the Sacred Cenote holes, or natural wells. The wells are now thought to mark the spot where the great meteorite struck 65 million years ago that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and other large species. Core samples revealed crystalized quartz 1,100 meters below ground.

Scientist J.J. Hurtak claims to have had a spiritual visitation in 1973. He wrote "The Keys of Enoch," telling of a great evolutionary leap for mankind. A map of the Yucatan is shown in the book, called "The Sacred Grid". Lines are drawn between megalithic sites revealing a three-part triangle. It's quite similar to the Barbury Castle pictogram. Dr.

Hurtak was told that this area had triangular grids of crystal and is a communication point with the heavens. It will be involved in a grid shift and alignment effecting the changes here.

Some dowsers say that the energy grid is associated with naturally sited, underground quartz. There may be a seven-mile wide crystal underground at the Yucatan functioning like a radio oscillator, effecting the energy grid.

[end of excerpt] I am not sure if Cork's and old lurky's dreams are related, but they may be. I doubt that another big disaster will happen at the Yucatan, although a smaller scale event seems likely. I tend to think the dreams are symbolic of the earth-shaking events that will come from the Sacred Grid.

A big part of the great change is about a duality balance. Part of Cork's dreams could be interpreted in that manner, like the breaking of a barrier between West and East in the Cosmic spiritual sense, or a connection between the left and right halves of the brain, the rational and intuitive conjoined.

An Alien Appears Upon the "Real" Obelisk

[Excerpt from]

Subj: PAG E-NEWS: 16 January 2006
Date: 1/16/2006 3:03:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Peter Gersten
To: jmason4557@aol.com


Is seeing still believing? Certainly not always true when it comes to photos and videos considering today's "enhancement" programs. But can the same now also be said for observations made in "real time" even when they are memorialized for later viewing?

Can believing mean seeing?


"A bizarre incident involving three boys and an alien entity has been made public in a southern Mexico community."


[End of excerpt]


[Excerpt from the above link]

Alien Encounter
Filmed In Mexico?
By Santiago Yturria
Exclusive to Rense.com
©2006 Santiago Yturria


A bizarre incident involving three boys and an alien entity has been made public in a southern Mexico community. The story is causing a great deal of concern and attracting a great deal of interest ...because the reported dramatic encounter was recorded on a cell phone camera by one of the witnesses.

On March 20, 2005 at 2:00 am, three boys were playing with a ball outside their homes in Fraccionamiento Del Parque, a neighborhood in the city of Merida, Yucatán.

David Espada and another friend who wants to remain anonymous were playing with a ball while José Alonso Herrera was recording them with his SONY K500i cellular phone just for fun.

The teenagers were joking and playing on the sidewalk outside the houses and everything was normal for them. The sidewalk was well iluminated by several street lights. Then David Espada lost control of the ball and it rolled to a nearby post. David went to pick the ball while Jose Herrera kept recording and applied the 2x zoom following David.

When David tried to pick the ball suddenly from out of nowhere a strange creature appeared from behind the light post and extended a long arm grabbing David's right arm.

The entity was bald with yellowish white skin and was 'alien shaped.' The contact lasted just a second as David reacted...jumping and shouting: "It grabbed me!! It grabbed me!!" And then ran back to his friends and pointing back to the post and screaming: "It's there!! See it!? It grabbed me!!"

[End of excerpt]


See also:

Mexico Newspaper Discusses "Merida Martian"
Video Included




The incident, like other ET/UFO events, seems to carry symbolism.

Note that Cork's "Chicxulub Crater" dream was February 7, 2005, and the Merida ET incident was March 20, 2005, 42 days later. Remember the number 42 appears in Revelation 11:2, as 42 months, one of the three and a half symbols. Also, 42 x 30 = 1260 days (Rev 11:3 and 12:6), which can be figured 3.5 x 360.

The city of Merida is near the center of where the meteorite struck 65 million years ago, leaving a seven-mile wide crystal 1,100 meters underground. This is the apparent place of the "real" obelisk of "2001:Space Odyssey."

The soccer ball (international football) is probably part of the message. It equates to the bubble in which the baby, Dave, is returned to the Earth at the end of '2001:Space Odyssey." It is symbolically a form of the Omphalos, the space/time sphere that each person creates individually. It is the dodecahedron shape of the Universe. See:


Note that the boy who was touched by the "alien" has the name, David. This is, of course, consistent with the name of the lone survivor in the movie.

Evidence is building that supports the idea that the aliens (ETs) and UFOs are not from other planets, but are a function of the dream world or unconscious mind. It seems that the unconscious or collective unconscious has been in a process of "evolution," and is learning to manifest symbolic events in the "time" reality. They appear as meaningless "coincidences" to those holding the consensus view of reality.

E-Mail To Peter Gersten

Subj: Sovereignty = Lion Kings, Conscious Co-Creators
Date: 1/2/2006 11:04:33 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: JMason4557@aol.com
To: Peter Gersten

Hello Sir Peter.

Thanks for the great writing:

<< http://www.pagenews.info/commentary/my1111experience.php


The answer is "sovereignty" - the right of self-determination - to decide those matters which affect its life without interference - especially from its Creator. >> (snip)

You may find this excerpt similar:


Lion Kings = Conscious Co-Creators
by Joe Mason

Symbols of king, lion, and royal power are significant. They are related to the Grail Bloodline, and are major symbols of the great change. This traces back to Genesis 38, where Judah (the King and lion's whelp) has sex with his daughter-in-law, Tamar, who tricked him by dressing up as a harlot.

It relates to the kings of the earth who fornicate with the harlot in Revelation 17. They become drunk on her wine, which evokes fury. They give over their "ROYAL POWER" to the beast.

God has put it into their hearts to carry out His purpose (Rev. 17:17). The kings of the earth make a change, and bring their glory into The New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:24).

A key verse is Revelation 3:11 -

"I am coming soon; hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown."

A CROWN is worn by a KING. If one lets another seize their crown, it is like giving over their ROYAL POWER to the beast. The Rev. 3:11 verse seems to be speaking to everyone, not just "real" kings.

The advice seems to be that we need to be careful in believing the authority of other people. I believe this is supported by certain verses of Isaiah

65:17 "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."

65:21 "And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. (22) They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands."

Some dreams of today still have this "planting/eating" and "house building" symbolism.

So, it seems, part of the message about the change is that people will learn to go by their own authority, rather than follow others. I do think this process started many years ago and will continue. The Word Wide Web will probably make it go faster.

A Templar-related story illustrates the point.

It is said that you are born a camel. You get down on your knees, and a load is placed upon you (conditioned beliefs of childhood).

When you grow up and leave home, you become a lion who goes into the desert.

Eventually, the lion runs into a dragon who has "Thou Shalt" written on each of his scales (confronting the conditioned beliefs).

The lion slays the dragon and transforms into a baby.

At that point, you have overcome the conditioned beliefs and are operating from your own heart's center.

It is also said, "The heavier the load, the stronger the lion."

In one of the sayings in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Jesus says (something like):

"Lucky is he who eats the lion, for the lion becomes human.
But, cursed is he who the lion eats, for the lion still becomes human.

The "Pollen Path" articles tell the story of how dreams and coincidences led me to the theory that humanity has been on a path through the chakras, and that the 3 1/2 midpoint is the key. The harlot is related to the lower three chakras, especially the third. She is seated upon many waters, which are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues (Rev. 17:15).

This may represent an energy that pervades everything in the difficult time cycle. The harlot is very similar in meaning to Kali. See:

Tamasisk - Anger - Fury

The beast and harlot are related to ten horns (see Rev. 17:16). The third chakra is symbolized by a lotus flower with ten petals. See:

Humanity On The Pollen Path

The leap to the fourth - Heart chakra seems to be suggested by the twelve stars on the crown of The Woman With Child of Rev. 12:1, and by The New Jerusalem (Rev. 21), which has twelve gates, angels, gemstones, and pearls. The Heart chakra is symbolized by a lotus flower with 12 petals.

Dreams of being in or under the water, or underground, seem to suggest the unconscious, the collective unconscious, the dream realm, or the spirit realm. In Jung's system water is related to emotions.

The Hopi creation myth of Spider Grandmother seems to have the same meaning, expressed a bit differently. The depiction on my Pollen Path page shows that there are three chambers underground, with a tunnel up to the surface and daylight. The myth tells how the creator put insects into the first chamber and told them to find out the meaning of life. They are helped by Spider Grandmother to the next level, where they become animals. She helps again in the next cycle, and the animals become humans in the third chamber. Finally, she comes again, along with birds, and the people climb up through the tunnel to the surface. She then teaches us how "to weave."

In the Nordic myth of the Yggdrasil World Tree, the Norns of Fate weave at one of the underground roots. Notice that the final climb in the Hopi myth was at the 3 1/2 point. In terms of the chakra levels of consciousness, the first three were underground, again suggesting the unconscious.

Other material, including Biblical verses, indicate that we are co-creators of the reality.

Humanity en masse seems to be the demiurge co-creator, symbolized by the swastika. This is related to the four smiths (or carpenters) who cast down the four horns in Zechariah 1:18-21 -

And I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, four horns! And I said to the angel who talked with me, "What are these?" And he answered me, "These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem."

Then the Lord showed me four smiths. And I said, "What are these coming to do?"

He answered, "These are the horns which scattered Judah, so that no man raised his head; and these have come to terrify them, to cast down the horns of the nations who lifted up their horns against the land of Judah to scatter it."

The Babylonian demiurge hero, Marduk, chased down the Storm Bird Zu (anger-fury), who had stolen the tablets with the fates of men. He caught the bird and retrieved the tablets.

Putting this all together now - it seems that in the time cycle, mankind is co-creating from the unconscious, symbolized by the water or underground.

Many dreams and myths show a descent into the underground and a return. Our fates have been stolen, so-to-speak.

Returning to the surface or recovering the tablets with the fates of men, indicate that the kings of the earth will become conscious co-creators.

This will happen when we pass the 3 1/2 point and reach the Heart chakra. The kings will recover their crowns, royal power, and kingdoms. They will learn how "to weave" their own "fate."

The inspired film, "The Lion King," presented these ideas with an Egyptian theme. The Father Lion is Osiris, who is killed by his brother Scar/Typhon Set. The young Lion is Horus, who sees his Father in the stars, i.e., Orion. The Shaman-Baboon is Thoth.

Another related dream-coincidence idea is that the seven days of creation are not yet completed . . . we are not "Man" yet. See:

The Pleiades And The Seventh Ray On The Seventh Day

And, therefore we have not yet received free will.

[end of excerpt]



The key verse, by "coincidence," is Revelation 11:11, where the two trees stand up after three and a half days of being dead.

Best wishes and regards for a Happy New Year!

Joe Mason
PS - If you wish, you can use any of my writings in any way.

End of bad karma

[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/plpath1.htm

I came to see karma or judgment as a learning experience, rather than a reward-punishment system. It compares, in my mind, to how we raise our children. Out of love and caring, we attempt to direct them in good behavior, otherwise they may grow to be detrimental to others and their own lives will become negatively effected. So, symbolically, the harlot is the mother of our youth in spiritual terms. After our life experiences, we continue to exist and evolve in other dimensions. It seems we are expected to be "adults" there.

The karma-judgment interpretation of the harlot fits well with the idea that the lower chakras are involved. The first chakra is related to survival instincts. The second is related to the will to procreate. The third is the will to succeed, which in its negative aspect can become a will to dominate everyone and everything and make them into a likeness of the self, or subservient to the self. The idea also fits with the Egyptian judgment concepts, as reviewed near the beginning of this article.

As I was thinking of all these things one day, a light bulb went off in my head . . . Pablo's dream! The last line of the dream was puzzling: "The housekeeper complains about her lack of money." The housekeeper could correspond to the harlot, and the money to karma. Many dreams have the symbolism of cluttered rooms, or the like. I had read an interpretation that cluttered rooms symbolise negative or conflicting ideas or beliefs in the unconscious mind. I felt that this was basically the correct interpretation, but it could have other, related meanings, such as our feelings and emotions, which, of course, are influenced by the unconscious mind. In Karl Jung's theory, water can represent emotion.

I felt that this was also right, but that it can also represent spiritual influences or consciousness generally. So, the harlot seated upon the "waters" seems to suggest effects to our emotions and consciousness. The "wine" causes fury, so this is the emotional influence.

Pablo's dream seemed clearly related to the meaning of Revelation 11:11, the point where the 3 1/2 days in the lower chakras are complete, and the next step, the leap to the heart chakra takes place. The last line seems to indicate that karma will end at the end of the 3 1/2 cycle, as the "housekeeper," i.e., the harlot, will lack money, that is, we "kings of the earth" will no longer be "paying" the harlot for the "fornication."

Suddenly, I remembered that somewhere in Revelation it speaks of the beast being thrown down, or something like that. Pablo had also sent a dream of a "crock beast."

Another flash of inspiration came . . . the beast of Revelation is the swallower beast in the Egyptian depiction, who's snout cuts across the balance beam pole at the 3 1/2 point! I searched for the verse, and was amazed by Revelation 17:11 -

"As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to perdition."

Yes! The beast is the eighth symbol within the seven nodules on the pole representing the seven chakras. Revelation seems to confirm what I gathered from Pablo's dream . . . that karma will end at the end of the 3 1/2 cycle. Remember too, that the swallower beast is representative of the karmic function.

All this was starting to make perfect sense. When humanity reaches the heart level of consciousness evolution en mass, no one will be operating in the lower chakras, the area where karma has the negative, yet learning, function. Karma may still function, but it will be entirely positive at that point, bringing abundance to all. This seems to also be indicated by the verses refering to Elijah's prayer, where the earth brings forth its "fruit" after the 3 1/2 years.


[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/puzzles.htm

Mr. Heard was called a "scientific shaman." Seth (through Jane Roberts) once said that our scientists were asking the wrong questions, and that we needed "psychic scientists." In 1982 Seth said the scientist need work on awareness and perception. Benoit Mandelbrot seemed to fit this mold. He was not trustful of the rational in developing his ideas, and relied on his intuition.

Pythagorean Tetraktys

[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/plpath4.htm]

In Joseph Campbell's The Inner Reaches of Outer Space, on page 128, he writes about the Great Seal of the United States. The disk above the eagle's head has 13 stars forming a Solomon's seal, "symbolic of the union of soul and body, spirit and matter." It is formed by two interlaced "Pythagorean tetraktys, or 'perfect triangle of fourness,' of nine points, four to a side, enclosing a tenth representing the generative center." The tetraktys is said to symbolize how the creation is created. The single star (or dot) at the top represents the One Creative source. The two stars below represent the duality. The next row of three stars represents the relative balance of the duality attributes (a dominant, b dominant or a and b in accord). The four stars on the bottom of the triangle represent everything else in creation.

Dr Stephen M. Phillips

[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/plpath6.htm]

Update - June 15, 2004

In September, 2003, I found Dr Stephen M. Phillips website:


His articles include superstring theory as related to the sacred geometry of Pythagoreas. The Tree of Life is a major part of the picture. Many of the diagrams fit with various crop circle formations and other geometry that has come my way. One of the diagrams is quite similar to the tablecloth pattern in the Dali painting as related in this series of articles:


[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/lazarus/lazarus.htm]

Overview Note

This article will show connections between various symbols. A primary set of symbols concern our perception of the reality. One form is ancient, yet still appears in dreams and coincidences. It is the "dome of the world" shape formed by the circle of the horizon with the sky canopy. In three dimensions this can be shown as an Omphalos Stone (see graphic below).

The dome is our perception when standing on a surface, such as the planet Earth. In space, the shape of our perception can be represented as a space-time sphere. The soccer ball (international football) dodecahedrons illustrated above are one form of such a perception sphere.

We are finding, by dream-coincidence and research, more and more symbols that may have a similar meaning, such as a domed building, an umbrella, a grandfather clock, an arched doorway, a jukebox, one's house, and the Siva-linga of Eastern religions.

The start of this search for the meaning of the dome shape came from a dream told to me by Jeff in 1990. It is apparent that our dome-perception Omphalos Stone will undergo a change:

I was on a starship in space with other people. An extremely important message was trying to come in but it couldn't until we first ejected the garbage. I ran frantically and managed to eject it. The message came in over a console with lights flashing. A doctor appeared and led the crew into a bedroom. He began to work on a yard-high mound of jelly-like substance at the foot of the empty bed. Suddenly, I saw a human-sized hand puppet, a male/female pair with only one hand-hole. They fell back into a vat of water. I went over and looked down at them under the water and knew they had to change. They had to change.

originally at Delphi

 Omphalos Stone, 
Navel or Hub
of the World 

The Wedding and the Omphalos Stone

Indra's Net

[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/lazarus/lazarus.htm]

A related theme to be examined in this article is the symbolic meaning of being dead, asleep, or not awake. Often this seems to involve a male or male god who is dead and laying in a prone position, while a female or goddess is above or on top of him. With the awakening or resurrection, the male stands up alive. This general theme is quite universal throughout the word, but there are variations.

This strange symbolism seems to be speaking about humanity. The god and the goddess may represent the dual consciousness of mankind. In Jeff's dream above, the duality change symbol was in the from of the puppet pair undergoing a baptism. The healed dome will "jell" here in time, turn into stone, so-to-speak. Jeff had another dream prior to the one above, in which a paratrooper dressed in white came down from the sky and made him stand up from his prone position.

The dome of the world or Omphalos symbol connects with the duality symbol through the ancient Eastern idea that the phallus implanted in the vagina represents the all-pervading space of the universe.

The meaning behind this may be related to messages to the effect that we each create our own reality individually, yet there is an en mass nature to it by a higher level agreement. One could picture this symbolically as many domes connected together by threads of Spider Grandmother into a big web.

An Eastern symbol for this is Indra's Net, which is a "net of jewels" (or pearls) ,each of which reflects like a mirror and contains the reflection of each of the others. The Internet World Wide Web is a similar modern symbol.

The cycle of laying down dead seems related to the time cycle in the lower three levels of consciousness, associated with the chakras. The critical leap is from the third chakra to the fourth. The third chakra at the solar plexus, is basically the ego-centered will to succeed, and is represented by a ten petaled lotus flower and by the color yellow. The fourth chakra is at the heart, where love and compassion and a realization of our connectedness is realized. It is represented as a twelve petaled lotus flower and the color green.

This critical leap is often shown as three and one half, as the midpoint of seven. In some cases it seems to be represented as the fourth step. Somewhat paradoxically, it appears that seven steps or stages has a similar meaning.

There are hints that the seven days of creation are not over, and that we are not yet "man" with free will.

We are not entirely clear as to the meaning of the message of this "standing up" or revival from the dead of the male or male "god." We hope that the meaning will become more clear as the future unfolds. But, it certainly seems to be of a grand Cosmic magnitude. And, it may be just a few years away.


[Excerpt from: http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/lazarus/lazarus.htm]

Byron's dream, and Jeff's 1990 dream (above), may by explained, in part, by this article:

The Year of Jubilee, Chapter Five: The Hidden Time
by Thomas Jude Germinario

The idea is that the metaphysical foundation of phallic Yesod, represented as the second (from the bottom) sphere of the Tree of Life, is similar to the idea of the Omphalos becoming opaque (Qlippot), obstructing our view of the upper source Worlds of the Olam, after the "shattering of Vessels" (Shevirah).

After the "rectification," (Tikkun) the Yesod sphere becomes clear (sapphire stone). This represents the change in our "evil eye" perception of reality, that will eventually come into being, eliminating the negative influence (Sitra Ahra) from the "Other Side."


Questions Asked by Ryan
(rough notes to be imporved)

1. What is the 11:11 about?

Started for me in 1990.

people seeing 11:11 on clocks and such,

my personal experience = Revelation 11:11 is what it is about.

got on-line in 1996 and soon found the 11:11 folder in the Art Bell section of American Online, with the 11:11 postings.

my experience..


overview of this page,

the 11:11 type crop circle. (position 3:10)

Rayan said he saw ones like it, but didn't connect it with the 11:11 coincidences.

I explain more about the 11:11 and 11 types of crop circles.

my story - 1990 dreams, coincidences...mythology...following it with an open mind, while being skeptical.

Now have huge web site with many pages of 11:11 and other subject

finding the link on the main page.



2. But, what does 11:11 really mean?

It's different for everybody

coincidences all the time....related to dreams.

wake-up call - we are asleep to that side of our world.

some see it as part of a world change

My experience connecting it with Revelation 11:11 and the leap to the heart chakra of the human race.

Main article about it is: Humanity On The Pollen Path

original shorter e-mail article version: "Revelation 11:11"

seven chakras, (didn't tell of Chakra System CC)

Key verse - Revelation 11:11: the two olive trees are killed, lay dead in the city for thee days and a half, then a breath of life from God enters them and they stand up on their feet, and a great fear fell on those that saw them.

Coincidences when I first read Rev. 11:11. (didn't tell about Campbell book). two trees shaking at soccer match in Oxfordshire, England.

Overall view: On this page...starts with outline.

Reports - goes to pages of postings, starting with 1996.


Joe...okay, sure - long paus on tape.

Everything seemed to pivot on Rev. 11:11. Tremendous coincidences about it.


2 suns

"11:11 - What does it mean?" article - three main things to cover - (from fellow with 2012 site) end of Mayan calendar at 11:11 AM, Universal time.

December 21 as 1221 -


Stan Romack's equations and diagrams. element 115 that Bob Lazar has talked about. Drake's Equation - the amount of intellegence in the Universe. Diagram of the constellation of Orion. One on hypercube (explain). wormhole to earth. Ties in to Solara's 11:11 Doorway, which opened in the belt of Orion.

Asked if Ryan heard of Solara. He said no. (Position 13:38)

Open January 11, 1992. Stays open about 20 years.

Joe: mentioned previous conversation and Ryan's dream of  eclipse (or two suns).

My 1996 Revelation 11:11 e-mail and the dream of two suns. Coincidence - I mentioned two suns


Joe: What are we waking up to? The big Earth change. Our site: Dreams of the Great Earth Change. Our Welcome page tell how this is related to many other subjects.

the "what does it mean" page - three things to cover. (didn't get to Swallows)

Dreams related to coincidences. Events carry symbolism from the dream world.

Artists are the modern equivalent of the Shamen.

Helped the tribes in adjusting to changes through time.


long pause.

Ryan told of a dream of balls of fire from the sky. He later heard reports of similar events.

Joe: That's what I call dream coincidence. Fire from the sky. Help pages. site search. hall fire. a dream I had. Has to do with dreams of fire and events in the sky. Four elements. Jung's four psychological functions - fire, air, water, and earth. (Position16:57) synchronicity. Pegasus and fire mean "inspiration." (tell of Scarab cc and Gerald's white horse, and the cc white horse connection)

This other young man's dream of the Earth rolling down hill on fire

(18:43) Yeah, right...this actually before my main experiences started in 1990...back in 1982 .. my son was 11 years old .... I was surprised by my son's dream ...

My son's dream was of a piece of the sun falling to earth and starting fires. front door - mother's neighborhood...everything covered in white. Police cars...police & prostitute. Years later - harlot of Revelation 17. Police,  security guardscourt system, etc. have to do with karma or judgment. Ancient ... Tied in the these numbers, metrology.

Judgment Hall in the Book of the Dead. Lady Justice holds balance scales. Black horse rider of Revelation holds a balance. Lord weighs the heart... king of Babylon weighed in balance and found not worthy.

Ryan said something like: "How did you put this all together to make sense?" (position 21:21)

Joe: Right...well...it's been a constant, everything, for about 15 years. ...had the time...just a driving thing...

The way it is now - just like puzzle pieces, where we have part of the picture ...

and part of the idea of our web site is to try to  get more people involved and to put more of the puzzle pieces together... there are other people connected to us

pause...Ryan telling of news break.


okay...just hung up. News break.

Ryan said that a listener asked if the Mayans had clocks.

Joe: ha ha ha... (part missing in the wav file . . it's on the tape). That's pretty good. I have had similar questions before. They didn't even use a base ten system, and so forth. (position 22:44)

My answer - the ancient cultures had much more knowledge than we give them credit for.

The myths of the different cultures of the past are very similar...like the 3 1/2 midpoint of the seven chakras...a universal elementray idea. Jung: Archtypal ideas. (22:36)

Came to ancient peoples in dreams.

paid much more attention to dreams. May not have understood. There is an intelligence to all this

at end of the cycle, we are meant to figure this all out. (didn't say sacred symbols newly understood)

Chichen-Itza pyramid shadow of serpent

dreams today have the ancient numbers, and coincidence happen related to it.

(didn't tell of numbers in big events)

my dream of the Gematrian Wheel

360 degree wheel divided into ten parts. Like sine waves. peeks and valleys are where these numbers are. (25:24)

Ancient people picked up on all this.

No, they didn't have clocks...but they had the most sophisticated calandar. They were way ahead of us. First to come up with the concept of zero.

It is all coming out now...showing us what these mean...  and part of it is to follow the dream coincidence. (26:21)


(I think  the first part of the following is missing. The connection is that Revelation 11:4-12 speaks of the two olive trees. My Bible has a footnote reference to Zechariah 4, which speaks of the two olive trees and of Zerubbabel. I later realized that the High Priest, Joshua, mentioned in Zecariah 3, is the other olive tree.)

There are a couple of things that slipped by...about the fire part ... and this Joshua and Zerubbabel back in Zechariah. These were the two annointed...the High Priest and King...it wasn't the same Joshua that was at Jericho...This was the High Priest and King, (he is actually called governor because he was under the rulership of Babylon still) .. and they were the ones who rebuildt the Temple when the Jews returned to Jerusalem (position 26:57)

So, that's what it is talking about...building the house and the foundations of the house...

The Masonic people and all them ...that's what their symbolism is all about... with there little trowels for building bricks...the underlying thing is about this rebuilding ...they talk about Zurubbabel in their rites..position 27:19

The other thing ... about fire..it says in Isaiah 4:4, ... the filth cleansed fromt he daughters of Zion by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of burning.

judgment and karma very similar. .. again, the fire symbolism seems to represent a purification process. 27:52

about the daughters of Zion - related to our feminine aspect in the time cycle....which is the daughter of the harlot...which causes us - who are called the kings of the earth - to become drunk on wine of the harlot ... and we walk the winepress of the fury of God's wrath. 28:13

In other words, this Babylon actually represents this cutting and dividing force, where we get angry, ...it's like an altered consciousness....this being drunk on that type of wine...so we have this main harlot, who is seated upon many waters...

a little later it says, the waters that you saw where the harlot is seated are peoples and and multitudes and nations and tongues... (position 28:38) ... so, this is a thing that prevades over the whole world during this time cycle ... about this karmic influence...

and each of us have our femine aspect as part of this.... and it is actually the same as Eve,  in the sense that Eve represents a part ofAdam's soul. .. and it's only a rig-sized portion ... meaning that we have a much greater male aspect than female aspect in mankind. 29:03

And, this is part of the agressive and the male gods... the femine aspect is making this come back ... and this is part of this "two suns" symbolism, where it will become more balanced ... the exchange is going from being with the daughter of the harlot to  - the replacement - is the Holy Spirit, which is on a certain level is the femine aspect. And, that will be a great positive thing.

That happens at the heart chakra. 29:34 ... that's what I think this is all this means.  ... and that is why Isaiah 4:4 ... the filth was cleansed from the daughters of Zion through a spirit of fire and a spirit of burning. (not quite right)


Ryan: (something like) Is there something about group ascension? 29:47

Joe: ...pretty hard one to answer straight out, but  yes, I think there is something to that. I don't know exactly how the effect will be... but in my dream coincidence things...the crop circles.. it seems to be connected to this idea of Communion.

In this thing, the myths, the legendary type stories, are very important. It doesn't matter so much if they are actually true.

Where most of the crop circles appear - especially the complex ones - it's in what they call the Wessex Triangle. Some people call it the Aquarian Triangle. (30:32) It's right around Stonehenge and Avebury Stone Circle. One corner of it is Glastonbury. (I asked if Ryan ever heard of it. He had not).

It's a pretty fameous place in England...in fact, they have a lot of meetings about crop circles there.

The legends there... is that's where the Holy Grail was taken to. ... and this was the basis of the Holy Grail stories back around 1300 or 1400, or whenever it was ... (30:59)

Ryan: ?

Joe: (okay...okay...).

One corner of this triangular area where all these crop circles appear is Glastonbury Tor (not quite right) ...and the legend is that Joseph of Arimathea, who was the one who took Jesus down from the cross ... and he caught some of the blood into the cup ... and he was 42 years in prision (and there's one of those numbers again) ... and eventally wound up at Glastonbury, built Glastonbury Tor, and they've got this Chalis Well there, and the legend is that the Grail is at the bottom of the Well. 31:46

The thing is, there's many, many other stories about what the Grail is ... a lot of people say it's different for different people, and different times, and different groups of people in different ages...

And there's this new thing now, you probably heard, the Da Vinci Code and all this sort of thing... Holy Blood Holy Grail, and all that stuff. We've got quite a bit of that information ... and I'm not so sure how much of that is actually true, but I think the legendary part is important. And, these crop circles ... I think that it's not an accident that's there. 32:20

Now, on that Lazarus page I was talking about ...


: Crop circle at Old Sarum. Crop circle represents the freightening image dream of Nebuchadnezzar of the four ages related to the four metals. Four Yugas, same metals. Now in the Age of Iron, the Kali Yuga.

Special communion (Sarum Use)...follows the seven rays, seven chakras ...

become part of the body of Christ. Like one body composed of humanity. Church...but a spiritual meaning. Reach Christ Self level...in balance...

humanity united, almost like

President: Demiurge...symbolized by the swastika...four builder glyphs...verses in the Bible...four horns, four smiths. The four smiths throw down the four horns that have scattered the nations.

Counterclockwise had a negative aspect. Not evil...a karmic learning process.


Ryan: was there really a swastika crop circle?

Joe: Well, ... there have been a number of those...there was one in 1989 called a swastika circle. The dowsing pattern revelaed the New Jerusalem Plan, as given in Revelation 21.

many of the crop circles this year seem to be about the same thing.

Art Bell radio show with Stan Freedman...caller told of a UFO that became the New Jerusalem. They had no idea of the meaning, yet it is all over the place in the crop circles.

Professor in Jerusalem...temple is already there. (didn't say right) Just had to "measure it," as indicated in Revelation 11:2. Saint John given a reed or rod to measure the temple.

(Ryan had mentioned 23 at the start of the program. (and 123 and how his mother liked the number 9)

Joe: The number 23 figures as one of the universal 84. 1260, 3 1/2 days...common denominator is 84, so to speak.

Ryan: Your web site has a huge amount of material.

Back to heart chakra...Pablo's dream...35 years...7 psychological functions coming...had the dream on the exact day of the opening of doorway. Giant Sri Yantra pattern found grooved into a Oregon lake bed in 1990.

I had drawn the inner star part of the pattern the day before the news story came out.

The part I drew, the outer part of the star, represents the heart chakra. (didn't mentioned that I found this out while I was writing the outline about the leap to the heart chakra.

Have links to pictues and articles about it.


Ryan: We have run out of time.

Joe: Well...

(Note: tell about my telephone conversation with Ryan, where he told his dream of the eclipse or two suns. From the 11:11 article - how it relates to Venus and the movie 2010, etc. )

we sleep with daughters of harlot. kings of the earth