BLACK TRIANGLES COME FROM BOEING IN SEATTLE

compiled by Dee Finney

From: Donald Ware donware@earthlink.net
Date: 9/5/2004 2:22:41 PM
Subject: Fw: [earthchanges] More Experiences with "Black Triangle" UFOs

Dear Truthseekers,
     Since almost all of you were elsewhere yesterday, I will share the
interesting report below now.
     Peace, Don Ware

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Close-up Sighting Of A Black Triangle UFO

By Gary Val Tenuta
9-3-4

The following is a true and accurate account of my sighting in Seattle Washington which occurred in 1993. 
I believe it was in the month of November.

It was a Sunday night about 9:30. I often had occasion to be driving north about that time of evening on 
Sundays and I usually took the I-5 freeway. This time, however, I knew the freeway, northbound, was
jammed up due to an accident. So I took an alternate route which eventually led me to what I think was 
East Marginal Way, right next to the main Boeing Aircraft facility in Seattle.

As I was traveling, northbound, I noticed three red lights low in the sky ahead of me and to my right. 
They were moving in unison, very slowly across my field of vision from east to west. At first I thought 
they must be the lights of a low flying plane, perhaps about to land. Then I thought, no, they must be 
helicopters because a plane, even if it was landing, wouldn't be moving that slowly. The trouble was, 
I couldn't actually see the craft or crafts that the lights were attached to.

They were, maybe, a half mile ahead of me, about 30 degrees to my right. Normally, I wouldn't have 
paid much attention to this because I'd been making that Sunday night drive past Boeing (although via the
freeway) for twelve years. This is also not too far from the Sea-Tac Airport.

In all that time I'd seen plenty of airplanes and helicopters flying low in this area. But something was 
different this time. It took me a minute to realize what it was. It was the fact that the lights weren't
blinking. I thought that was odd. It seemed to me every airplane or helicopter I've ever seen flying at 
night had blinking lights. I squinted my eyes as I drove toward the lights, trying to see just what I was 
actually looking at.

Although I was now only about two blocks away from being directly under the flight path of these lights, 
I still could not make out what they were attached to. However, from their slow, steady movement, in 
unison, I was pretty sure all three of them were attached to a single object rather than being independent 
of each other.

By the time I was directly in line with their flight path, they were  about to enter the airspace above Boeing 
Field to my immediate left. At this point I was convinced it was a single, low-flying craft of some kind and I
knew there was something very odd here. I pulled my car off to the side of the road and rolled down the 
window to get a better look. But the craft was now directly overhead so I had to get out of the car to see it.

I opened the car door and stepped out. Craning my neck to see the craft as it passed slowly directly over 
my head at an estimated altitude of less than 500 feet (Note: at the actual time of the sighting my impression 
was that the craft was perhaps only about 150 feet above me) I could see it was a gigantic black triangle. 
There is no other way to describe it because that's precisely what it was; a huge, black, triangle; not just 
"sort of" triangular shaped, like one of those stealth jets I'd seen photos of.

It was just one big, three-sided, cookie-cutter-straight-edged, black, geometric shape; a triangle with one 
large, round unblinking red light at each of its three corners, flat up against the underside of the craft. There 
was a high, gray cloud cover that evening, subtly lit by the Seattle city lights in the distance. I could clearly 
and unobstructedly see the object like a huge, dense black silhouette against this gray ceiling.

I stood there almost not believing what I knew I was seeing. I actually said to myself, "Ok. What, exactly, 
are you seeing? You're going to want to remember every detail of this! Just the facts, now. What, exactly, 
do you see?" I made a mental inventory. "Black triangle. Red light on each corner, flat up against the 
underside of the craft. They don't blink. ...(Note: at this point it has proceeded on past me and was now 
over Boeing field) ...It looks like it's about seventy-five to a hundred feet above one of the main Boeing 
hangars. It's moving very slowly. Maybe five miles per hour. It's heading west. It appears to be about the 
size of a football field."

Suddenly I realized, as I stood there in the dark on this quiet empty street, the object didn't make a sound! 
Maybe more than anything else, that's what made the whole thing so eerie. Something that huge, that
close, moving through the air at a snail's pace should be making some kind of a sound. A hum. A rumble. 
Anything. But, no. It just moved across the sky like something out of a Steven Spielberg movie with the
volume turned off.

I looked up and down the street to see if anyone else was witnessing this silent event, but the street was dark 
and empty in both directions. It occurred to me, however, that the thing had just passed directly over hundreds 
of cars on the freeway which was only a few miles east of where I was standing. I looked up again at the 
mysterious craft now blending into the dark horizon. I watched it until I couldn't see it anymore and then it was 
over.

I got back into my car and closed the door. The window was still open and I took another look. Nothing was 
there but the gray night sky, softly aglow from the distant city lights. It was as if nothing had happened. All 
the way home I just kept asking myself, "What the hell was that?" I'm still wondering.

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Addendum

The weekend following my sighting (referenced above), I told my ex-wife about it. We're on good terms and I 
was either picking up my son for a weekend visit or returning him. I can't recall which. In any case, her 
response to what I told her was rather shocking but it may be significant to note that she has no interest in the 
UFO phenomenon and is not prone to making up such stories "off the cuff".

She works as a cocktail waitress and has conversations with many people during the course of her work. She 
told me that one of her customers, a Boeing employee, told her that there was an underground manufacturing 
facility located somewhere on the Boeing property where they were building a huge, triangular craft.

Supposedly this was a "secret" underground facility that no one was really supposed to know about. I asked 
her what else he told her but, having no real interest in such things and being very busy that evening, she 
didn't bother to ask any questions or in any way follow up on the conversation. As I recall, she didn't know who 
this fellow was as he was apparently not one of the "regulars".

I don't know if this story has any merit or not but I did find it very curious, especially coming from her and 
especially since I did see the craft cruise slowly, directly over the Boeing manufacturing plant. Also of interest 
is the fact that Boeing made big news in 2002 when a story hit the press that they were experimenting with 
anti-gravity propulsion.

Later, however, they denied it. I recall, however, that some researcher (I think it may have been Bill Hamilton) 
actually saw a 45 page document from Boeing pertaining to the anti-gravity research. It occurred to me at the 
time of the sighting that the craft seemed much too big to be able to cruise that slowly without just falling to the
ground. In fact it's more accurately descriptive to say it was "floating" rather than flying.

In any case, as I said, My ex-wife not only has no interest in such matters, she's also not one to come up with 
such imaginative tales on the spur of the moment. She was quite serious when she related this incident to me. 
Again, this was back in November of 1993.

So, just what did I see? Was it an alien craft? A secret military craft? I don't know. We'll just have to file it 
into the "Gray Basket" as Stanton Friedman is fond of saying.

Gary Val Tenuta
Everett, WA

Comment
From Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
9-3-4

I've been to Boeing field numerous times on business back in the mid 80's. Gate C-39 is (was) the closest entrance 
to it. The flight test facility building with massive computing power, is just inside the C- 39 entrance to the right. 
I was there so often as a project manager for a key switching system used in flight test and also in the radio tower, 
they actually gave me my own badge to come and go for a three week stay there.

BOEING FIELD USED FOR AIRCRAFT TESTING

There is a hangar beside the end of the runway, which at that time could easily house 4-5 jumbo jets. After vibration 
and modal testing was completed on a fuselage and wing section inside one end of the hangar, everyone would come 
to see the final test. A mechanism would begin to bend the wing tip...until it snapped off at the root where it joins the
fuselage.

It sounds like an explosion and always manages to scare the daylights out of everyone. Although FAA regs. only 
require about 4ft before breaking, Boeing's amazing planes would make it out to 12ft. or more before a wing broke 
off. As I recall, the 757 test made it to 14ft.

THE FIELD IS USED FOR FLIGHT TEST

The field is the main take-off and landing strip for EVERY plane Boeing manufactures. Every plane must pass through 
a rigorous flight test. A large tracking dish on the roof about 25ft across will lock onto the plane after takeoff, and 
receive downlinked telemetry from every single part of the aircraft. New aircraft at that time were built with more than 
9 miles of special bright orange wiring, the purpose of which is only for flight test certification. After the test is over, a 
crew goes in and rips out everything orange.

A large bundle of orange wire also connects to all tires and wheels. Inside the plane, only a handful of seats are 
installed. The remainder of the space is taken up by data collection and telemetry systems, and banks of beer-keg like
barrels which have water pumped from one group to another during flight to change the center of gravity. I suspect
this time honored method is still used to test aircraft trim.

The dish can track the aircraft over most of northeast Washington state, receiving a commutated (multiplexed) data 
stream on every possible part of the aircraft, including stress sensors bonded to the inside of the outer skin. When 
testing was complete, the wires to the sensors are cutoff, and the sensor left in place. Then the insulation and inside 
wall panels are installed. The racks are removed, the plane cleaned and all the remaining seats are installed as the 
plane is readied for delivery.

This entire test procedure is performed on EVERY plane built, to receive the required FAA flight worthy certification.

FAA people have their own offices right there at Boeing Field.

RADIO ROOM THAT CONTROLS BOEING FIELD

There is a steep flight of open steps that leads to the radio located on the top of the hangar building. 110ft. to the top. These steps were located inside the hangar, and looking down from 11 stories up on the open steel stairs would give 
anyone vertigo. An open elevator outside the building was where you put equipment and briefcases, so you wouldn't 
have to lug them up the steps. It was forbidden to ride the single cable elevator platform with no safety braking system.

Interlock switches and a chain link fence prevented anyone from doing so. One would walk out on the roof from the 
rear of the control room over to the elevator, and open the interlocked doors to access the cargo. The top of the 
hangar was painted with airfield red and white checkered blocks, because many years ago a confused pilot *attempted*
to land his plane on the roof. That landing didn't go too well, because of air conditioning ductwork and antennas on the
roof...

BLACK TRIANGLES EXIST

I was at Boeing Field about a month. Not once did I see any triangles, but that does not mean they don't exist. It is 
well known they do exist, and I personally know former airforce officers that know about them and saw them close up. 
The propulsion system has been upgraded, and the 60ft. highly pressurized gravity shielding ring that reduced most 
of the vehicle's weight to zero, has been replaced with another technology no one is talking about.

I also know from first hand knowledge that black triangles play a key role in abductions. They can hover silently, and
 almost always only fly at night in between 2AM and 4AM before any dawn light appears. The question always is - 
WHO owns them, and WHERE are they from ? I strongly suspect the triangles built by Boeing are clones of a vehicle 
that crashed which either wasn't invented on earth, or it came from our future.

The latter is more likely. There are some reports these were used in the mideast war  and were firing (chemical) lasers 
at Iraqi targets. Chemical lasers require almost no electricity at all, since the laser functions much like a rocket does, 
with a fuel and oxidizer. Just large tanks are all that's needed and some type of control and tracking system.

The airforce space command has a collection of advanced vehicles they can do nothing with, because they foolishly 
have tried to use 'standard' physics to analyze them. That is, Hawkings-type mainstream physics. This has been 
changing, however. Some vehicles use materials not available on earth, or cannot be made repaired or fueled here 
for other reasons.

Its most likely that given the quantum leap from jet aircraft to black triangles, that the Nellis people or space 
command gave Boeing the contract to build them. The triangle is most likely based on at least one crashed vehicle 
that didn't use any materials that couldn't be fabricated. At more than 1 billion dollars each, it's long been
suspected that the secret government (which doesn't exist of course) owns some or all of them.

I've commented in a past Rense article about NASA, that because these triangles DO EXIST that the shuttle has 
been, and is, OBSOLETE. And the one department of the government you almost never hear anything about, is 
the Space Command. Especially their crash retrieval teams...

Most generals are nothing more than big kids with expensive uniforms, who have scratched, butt-kissed and clawed 
their way to the top. Oh.. the price of fame...

Even with the well-established flight history of the TR3 series black triangles - we continue to send astronauts into 
space on rockets and they die.


What are the Triangles?

By Richard M. Dolan

copyright ©2003 by Richard M. Dolan. All rights reserved.

A Triangular Problem

Sightings of "impossible" craft in the sky are universal. They are also universally ignored. Ignored, at least, by the 
official channels and sources of power in our society.

This is nothing new -- students of the UFO reality have always known this. Nor is the blanket of denial and dis-
information associated with this topic anything unique. I have howled into the wind about this many times, decrying 
the inability and unwillingness of our mainstream media to discuss an entire range of topics. Yes, this is old news.

As strange as UFOs are, I often think that the silence of official channels is more surreal than the objects themselves. 
How can it be possible that so many thousands (millions?) of witnesses continue to be ignored?

One subset of the phenomenon, however, has broken through to the mainstream. Perhaps we should say -- ahem -- 
the Ďfringesí of the mainstream. These are the infamous triangular craft. Americaís mainstream culture, ever rigid and 
narrow, yet acknowledges from time to time that such things exist. Frankly, it would be hard not to. The reports are 
simply too many and too clear.

They also come in constantly. Less than a month ago, as I write this, was an interesting -- yet typical -- report. Shortly 
after midnight on March 2, 2003, a security guard at a gated community in Dallas saw "a single solid black triangle, 
with no lights of any kind," traveling west for about 8 or 9 seconds. The object was completely silent, and seemed to 
float across the sky at about 1,200 feet. The witness watched the triangle disappear behind one of the homes, contacted 
the Dallas Police Department, and was told that no one else had reported the object. This report is available on the 
web at the National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC). Indeed, the witness spoke with Peter Davenport, who runs the
 organization, and was found "to be quite sincere and credible." [1]

Computer rendering by witness of a Triangle encounter in Kingston, Ontario, in January 2003. Thanks to Peter Davenport of NUFORC and witness for permission.

Here is another recent report from NUFORC. On January 24, 2003, a man saw a triangular-shaped object while driving 
at night down a quiet Arkansas road. He slowed down, turned off his radio, and rolled down his car window. He 
wondered if this was a helicopter. But he heard no sound. Coming to a complete stop, he watched the object hover 
10 feet above a telephone pole, and noticed that it had three lights (red, white, and blue), one on each corner. He saw 
the object for a total of four minutes, "and then it was gone."

Neither of these witnesses described the size of the craft they saw. In fact, the sizes of these triangles have ranged 
from small to immense. Most are slow-moving and low-flying; occasionally people describe them as boomerang-shaped 
instead of triangular. The fact that they fly so low, and so slowly, is a problem that demands an explanation, both 
scientifically and politically. Complicating the matter are the many witnesses who describe exceptional speed and maneuverability relating to these triangles, such as flat pivot turns or incredible acceleration. It is a tricky problem, 
indeed.

The famous Illinois "cop sighting" in early 2000 of a giant triangular object is the best known case of the flying triangles. 
In this instance, the object was substantially larger than a jumbo jet, flying at perhaps 500 feet altitude, either silent or 
extremely quiet, moving slowly, and edged with an array of blinding white lights. All this is certainly extraordinary. But 
what really makes this case difficult to explain is the objectís manner of acceleration. In the words of one officer, it was 
able to shoot away "in the blink of an eye" with "no sound whatsoever." One moment, it was a few hundred feet away; 
the next moment, several miles away. [2]

What does that?

If this were an isolated incident, one could write it off as a mistaken observation of some sort. But this is not isolated, 
and here the problem deepens. For an object possibly identical to this one was seen many times in the early 1980s in
the Hudson Valley, just north of New York City. On December 31, 1982, people from several different locations reported 
such an object. This was no mere New Yearís Eve partying, either; the object was filmed with a movie camera. The 
object was huge, triangular, flew at less than 500 feet, had bright lights, made tight circles in the air, and at one point 
shone a beam of white light onto a highway. In July 1984, the same or a similar object invaded the air space of the 
Indian Point Nuclear Facility, disabling the electronic and communication systems while it hovered over a reactor. 
During the early 1980s, the number of witnesses to such events in the Hudson Valley numbered in the thousands. Indeed, 
on one occasion, video was shot of a sufficient quality that it was sent to the Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena. Conclusion:
 something real, all right, but not a conventional aircraft. [3]

Security guard drawing of the object that hovered over the Indian Point Nuclear Facility, July 1984.

Then we have the Belgian cases, which seem to have been part of series of sightings stretching from Britain to Russia 
from late 1989 to early 1990. On November 29, 1989, a dark triangular object, making a humming noise, hovered over a 
Belgian police car and shone a brilliant beam of light on it. Many people reported this object; it was seen throughout 
the winter, then most spectacularly on the night of March 30, 1990. That night, thousands of witnesses saw a low-flying 
triangular UFO (or UFOs) with bright lights flashing in the center. This object could fly as slow as 30 mph, but it 
accelerated to incredible speeds. Witnesses were adamant that no plane belonging to any air force could have caught 
this object. Indeed, that night the Belgian Air Force sent two F-16s to do exactly that. The triangles were captured on 
several NATO radar stations; the jet pilots could also track the objects on radar, and even see them Ė at times.

But the F-16s Ė the top interceptors in the world Ė were completely outclassed by the triangular craft. Not only could it 
accelerate at incredible speeds, not only could it stop on a dime, but it could change its altitude almost instantly. At 
one point, for example, radar installations and amazed witnesses observed the triangle to drop about 4,000 feet in one 
second. Thatís nearly a mile.

Moreover, this object moved intelligently, at least in the opinion of the Belgian Air Force Chief of Operations, Colonel 
Wilfried De Brouwer, who stated "There was a logic in the movements of the UFO." Nick Pope, who soon after this 
manned the "UFO Desk" in Britainís Ministry of
Defense, had contacts within the Belgian government who "elicited the
conclusion that a structured craft had flown over Belgium that night." They had no idea, they said, of what that object 
was. [4]

Like the other triangles people have seen, the Belgian object was real enough. The real question is, to whom did it 
belong?

Photograph of the triangular object over Belgium, April 1, 1990.

Ours? Or Theirs?

Many people have suspected this to be a secret American project. Officially, however, there is no type of aircraft with 
a perfectly triangular planform. The B-2 stealth bomber is an angular and odd looking beast, but itís not a triangle. Nor 
can it do what the triangles do.

There is good reason to believe that the U.S. has developed a triangle. In August 1989, A former Royal Observer Corps 
member was working on a North Sea gas rig about 60 miles off the Norfolk coast. This man, named Chris Gibson, has 
been described as one of the worldís experts in aircraft recognition, and competed in international recognition 
tournaments where a long distance shot of an aircraft would be flashed on a screen for a fraction of a second. At the 
time of the sighting, he was writing an aircraft recognition manual.

What he saw that day was an matte black aircraft shaped in a perfect isosceles triangle, with the nose angle at 30 
degrees, in a refueling operation with a KC-135. Two F-111 fighters accompanied the craft. The triangular craft was 
slightly bigger than an F-111. Aviation writer Bill Sweetman noted that "no aircraft other than a supersonic vehicle, 
or a test aircraft for such a vehicle, has ever been built or studied with such a planform."[5]

Generally, people have attributed this sighting to the fabled Aurora, the alleged successor to the worldís fastest 
"official" plane, the SR-71 Blackbird. Of course, the Aurora doesnít officially exist but the rumor mill gives it dimensions 
that seem to be compatible with what Gibson saw.

But given that the Aurora (or the same aircraft under a different name) exists, it is unlikely that this is the craft that 
buzzed Belgium in 1989-1990, much less is responsible for the Hudson Valley sightings. The Aurora is said to be 
hypersonic, meaning that it is faster than Mach 5, and is rumored to move as fast as Mach 8. But, hovering? Changing 
altitude instantly? There are no accounts of Aurora -- none by aviation writers, anyway Ė that indicate it can do anything 
like that.

The Black Manta

There is an aircraft in the land of legends that comes closer to fitting the description of some of these triangle sightings. 
It is the Black Manta, TR-3, another aircraft that "doesnít exist." All we have, apparently, is the rumor mill, which gives 
this object the ability to hover silently. There are said to be two very different versions, the TR-3A and the TR-3B. The first 
is  supposed to be about 45 feet long and 15 feet high, with a 65 foot wingspan. The second is said to be a massive 600 
feet across.

Bearing in mind that none of this can be confirmed, the most detailed information I could find on this elusive creature 
of the sky is that, among those who believe it exists, it is said to a tactical reconnaissance aircraft, first operational in 
the early 1990s. Funding and tasking come from the NRO, NSA, and CIA. The outer coating of the TR-3B is allegedly 
reactive to electrical radar stimulation and can change reflectiveness, radar absorptiveness, and color. It is therefore exceptionally  stealthy. More than this, however, it is said to have indefinite loiter time at high altitudes (as high as 
125,000 feet), and the ability to travel as fast as Ė strap yourself in Ė Mach 9.

Artist rendering of the TR-3A Black Manta 

By no means am I an expert on the technology involved here. Those who say they are tell us that the TR-3B has 
something called a Magnetic Field Disruptor, which is a circular, highly pressurized, mercury-based plasma filled 
ring surrounding a rotatable crew compartment. The plasma is accelerated to extreme speeds which is said to result in 
"gravity disruption" and can neutralize the effect of gravity on mass by as much as 89 percent. This is not exactly 
antigravity, which provides a repulsive force, but for all intents and purposes makes the vehicle extremely light, with 
obvious correlations in performance, including acceleration in all directions.

This, at least, is the claim from the website of Edgar Fouche. One scientist has told me that the technical details, such 
as the speed of rotation of plasma) are "not credible." While Foucheís site provides an excellent overview of the Black 
Manta, much of the information derives from anonymous sources, and it is always possible that details can be wrong 
even while the big picture remains fundamentally sound. [6]

While recognizing that any discussion of the Black Manta is highly speculative, some of the claims regarding it at least 
come close to the performance characteristics of the triangular UFOs. Is the craft real? I have no idea. While a few 
aviation writers acknowledge the possibility that itís real, no one can confirm it, and most appear doubtful. Indeed, there 
those who even doubt that there is such a plane as the Aurora.

For my part, I find it difficult to deny that the U.S. military has a flying triangle. Knowing the credentials of Chris Gibson, 
if he saw a matte black isosceles triangle being refueled by a KC-135, I am prepared to believe him. I am also prepared 
to accept that there are probably other deep-black aircraft out there. The U.S. government has a history of declassifying 
military technologies at its convenience. By the time the U-2 was public, its successor, the SR-71 Blackbird, was not long 
in following. We learned of the F-117A stealth fighter in 1988, for instance, only when it was decided to increase 
production substantially and that it would therefore be impossible to hide any longer.

Artist rendering of the Aurora aircraft.

Chronology Problems

But even the aforementioned candidates donít explain the triangle phenomenon. Even if something as exotic as the 
Black Manta is real, it is clear that this would only explain sightings since the 1990s.

Or would it? How far back could we push the technology and this aircraft? Could the Black Manta have been 
responsible for the Belgian sightings of 1989 and 1990? And even if that is so, what does one make of the Hudson 
Valley sightings, which are earlier still? At what point do we move from the improbable, to the implausible, to the 
ridiculous?

I wonder whether the TR-3A or TR-3B explain the following sighting:

On this occasion, a clear fall night in Hastings, Minnesota, multiple witnesses saw a triangular craft approach from the 
east at a high rate of
speed. When it was nearly overhead at about 5,000 feet, it "stopped dead in its tracks." The object
had a reddish orange light at each of its corners; these lights sometimes turned greenish. It sat motionless and silent for 
half a minute, then made a slow 180 degree turn, "leaving a vapor trail." It then sat motionless for a few seconds and 
took off at an amazing speed. It stopped dead at a point about 15 miles away from them. It then lifted straight up "at 
incredible speed" and was gone.

The object in question certainly seems to have had much in common with the Belgian triangle, except it was seen in mid-October of 1968. As far as I know, this report has not been investigated, but there are quite a few triangle reports 
on NUFORC that stem from the late 1960s. Most of these reports provide good detail and appear to be truthful. These 
are available for anyone to read.

At the NUFORC, you can read about 25 reasonably detailed reports of triangular UFOs that were seen from 1967 through 
1973, and there are several that are even earlier. This must be the tip of the iceberg: the first of these accounts was 
posted only in 1998, when the world wide web finally became a convenient tool for these people. We will never know 
how many 1960s witnesses of triangular craft died before they had the opportunity to post their story, but Iím sure there 
were a few.

Indeed, British researcher Victor Kean, who started Project Triangle on the world wide web tracked many triangle 
reports in Britain that took place in the 1990s, but pointed out that his first reliable triangle report dates from September 
8, 1960. This was a "triangular-shaped craft with three white apex lights and a red light underneath," seen in Tyneside, 
Britain and two other locations that evening, all within a 10 mile radius and within 75 minutes of each other. Did someone 
invent flying triangles in the 1950s? [7]

If one feels that reports from that long ago are inherently unreliable and need to be discarded, what does one make of 
the large number of triangle reports from between 1973 and the early 1980s? That is, prior to the Hudson Valley wave?

Reports that go so far back pose a serious problem of explanation. There are several factors to consider. First is 
technology. Granted that the black world of the military has always been substantially ahead of most civilian technology, 
still, we can do a reality check by observing the development of leading edge aircraft during those years. For example, 
the first flight of the F-15 Eagle took place in July 1972. It was the first USAF fighter to have a thrust to weight ratio greater 
than 1:1, meaning it could accelerate going straight up. The first F-16 prototype flew at Edwards AFB in January 1974. 
The Rockwell B-1 bomber first flew in December 1974. The Apache helicopter prototype first flew in September 1975. 
These machines are all impressive, but none are anything like the reported triangles.

It is also important to realize that it was only by the mid-1970s that "fly-by-wire" (e.g. very advanced computer technology
enabling an aircraft to make many adjustments per second) was becoming practical enough to allow for unconventional
planforms such as the flying wing. Previously, the flying wing design (and by extension the triangle) had been inherently
unstable.

Other problems arise when we look at the history of American defense spending. For instance, the USAF budget in 1980 
was about $39 billion. Starting in 1981, with the advent of the Reagan presidency, it began a dramatic rise, peaking in 
1985 at $99.4 billion. This is an extraordinary development, and while we can acknowledge that there was always a 
supply of secret money for special projects, we can also recognize that there was much more of it starting in the early 
1980s. Presumably this translated into greater operational possibilities for leading edge technology. In other words, 
while it would still have been possible to fund expensive, secret, and exotic aircraft prior to 1980, it
would have been 
easier to do this after 1980. [8]

Thus, when you examine the history of triangle sightings, track what is known of the development of advanced aircraft, 
and study the trends in defense spending, it becomes difficult to credit many of these reports as secret technology.

Difficult, but not perhaps impossible. After all, how many years ahead of our most advanced open and public technology 
are these triangles? Itís hard to be certain, but it doesnít seem to be a stretch to anticipate similar capabilities in the 
public realm within the next twenty years.

Political Problems

But to acknowledge that some group in the secret caverns of the military-industrial complex made this type of 
breakthrough opens up a new series of questions.

Let us return to the Belgian case, for instance. Belgian Air Force Colonel De Brouwer speculated that if these objects 
were B-2 or F-117 stealth aircraft (the only known American aircraft that might remotely fit the description), then the USAF 
had made no requests for this type of mission, as it would be required to do. He also added the obvious fact that the 
triangles did not "in any way" match the characteristics of either U.S. aircraft.

Still, the Belgian government asked the U.S. government whether or not, in effect, these triangles were American. The 
U.S. Air Force informed the Belgian Air Force and Ministry of Defense that "no USAF stealth aircraft were operating" 
during the period in question. Now, this could be seen as merely a carefully worded statement. No "stealth" aircraft -- 
might this allow the overflight of an aircraft that is not, technically
speaking, stealth? After all, the triangle over Belgium 
was tracked at least some of the time on radar. As far as this statement is concerned, it could simply mean that a non-
stealth but highly advanced U.S. aircraft was responsible. [9]

If so, then we have a disturbing conclusion regarding how the U.S. Air Force treats its NATO allies. With the advent of 
Gulf War II, this may not surprise too many people. But in 1990, there was still a Soviet Union, and the vestige of a cold 
war. At the least, it seems neither polite nor intelligent to treat your NATO allies in such a manner.

Nevertheless, it strains credulity to see this as American technology. Then again, the entire UFO phenomenon strains 
credulity. That is, until you go through report after impossible report, recognizing that the impossible is here and living 
quite well in this demented world of ours, thank you very much.

The NIDS Hypothesis - Big Black Deltas

For now, that will have to do regarding the chronological problems posed by the triangles. There are still a few 
possibilities to consider. The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), based in Las Vegas, Nevada, has recently 
been looking into the matter of what it has termed Big Black Deltas (BBDs). These are essentially the large triangles. [10]

In 2002 an aircraft researcher submitted a paper to NIDS on the condition that it be published anonymously ("Big Black 
Deltas (BBDs): DoD, Not ET"). He argued that these objects are lighter-than-air (LTA) craft, or rigid dirigibles, most likely 
powered by "electrokinetic" drive, operated by the U.S. military. In other words, U.S. Defense Department airships that 
serve as large transport vessels, able to carry huge payloads at high or low altitudes, at speeds several times faster than 
surface ships. The author of the paper theorized that they have existed since the early to mid-1980s.

He theorized that these objects are quiet because LTA vehicles can make use of the "unconventional" electrokinetic 
system. They would need no propellers or jets, instead using aerostatic, lift gas, like a balloon. All you might hear is a 
slight humming from high voltage control equipment and an occasional coronal discharge in the older BBDs.

The NIDS author also discussed why the BBDs can accelerate so quickly. I have to confess that my science breaks down 
at this point, but the explanation is not especially detailed, either. The author argued that the LTA would not require a 
power supply, as its energy source could be fed remotely by a "ground based power system sending power to the 
electrokinetic platform by either a tether wire or by microwave link." The maximum transmission distance would be 
about 62 miles. The thrust to mass ratio of such a craft would be far superior to that of a jet fighter, "between 1.7 to 1 up 
to 3 to 1 if lightly loaded," which would enable it to accelerate very quickly, including up.

The author discussed other features of the BBDs, such as the ability to turn without banking or its occasionally intense 
lights. He concluded that "with a number of military mission profiles for such a craft and the technologies to build it 
having been well developed for nearly a century would any defense department NOT build it?"

This hypothesis seems primarily designed to address the Millstadt, Illinois sighting of early 2000. As a result, we are 
obliged to ask, if this object was ours, where was the microwave transmitter? This object surely was not tethered, and 
its acceleration wasnít just high, it was very, very high. Not everyone believes the power source concept described in 
this anonymous paper is valid. One of my correspondents pointed out to me that while beamed microwave power has 
been done, it requires a line of sight and what is called rectenna, an array of dipoles which is dangerous to anything 
that gets in its path, such as birds. I am not aware, for instance, of reports of dead birds accompanying sightings of BBDs. 
Finally, it doesnít help that this paper is from an anonymous source. While the people at NIDS know who this author is, 
it would be nice if the rest of us get the opportunity to learn this person's identity and credentials (although one writer 
has assured me privately that the author possesses substantial qualifications).

Reconstruction of UFO over Shiloh, Illinois, January 2000. Thanks to Darryl Barker.

 

Police Report Sketch, January 2000, Officer Martin; Shiloh, Illinois Police Department

NIDS has also plotted several hundred sightings of the BBDs (all from the 1990s) on a map of the United States, trying to
see a pattern. In addition to using its own substantial database, NIDS obtained two other substantial sources of data, 
from MUFON and UFO researcher Larry Hatch. NIDS suggested that many of the BBD sightings occurred along corridors 
between bases of the U.S. Air Mobility Command (AMC) and Air Force Material Command (AFMC) . These two commands 
control the logistics of American troop and equipment deployment. NIDS hypothesized, therefore, that the Air Force is 
flying these objects between AFMC and AMC bases. [11]

This may be just as NIDS suggests. But although it says the similarities among the various databases are "striking," I found 
the experience of reading these maps a little like deciphering a Rorschach test. There does seem to be a concentration 
of sightings along such "corridors," but I canít help wondering if there is another explanation here, and that this is a case 
where one could find all sorts of patterns to fit other hypotheses.

NIDS did fine work and worded its conclusions carefully. It is to be commended for this. But it must be noted that (a) its 
study includes only reports from the 1990s (b) only includes reports of the large triangles and (c) is restricted geographically 
to the United States.

There are such things as rigid dirigibles. An inventor name Michael K. Walden demonstrated a fully solar-powered, remotely-controlled, LTA vehicle, to the U.S. Department of Defense and Department of Energy at Nellis AFB in 1977. 
They seemed to have been rather excited by this, but never picked up the contract. [12]

I have already said that the long history of triangle reports poses serious problems of explanation. But so does the 
geography. Researchers commonly write as though the triangles are a North American and Western European 
phenomenon. This seems to be true in the main, but I suspect it is mainly due to more active reporting in those 
areas. In any case, it is not entirely true. Russia, for example, has had many triangle reports, several that occurred 
during the Belgian flap.

An especially interesting one occurred near Moscow on March 12, 1990. Several groups of UFOs were seen, some of 
which were spheres and discs, and some of which appeared to be huge triangular-shaped craft. Many local people 
spent the night on their rooftops watching these silent objects dart through the sky. In fact, during the spring of 1990, 
it appears that Russia had more, and more spectacular, UFO cases than did Belgium. The CIA retained several accounts 
of this wave from the Soviet-Russian media, although CIA reports themselves, assuming they exist, have yet to be 
released.

Thus, while the NIDS explanation of Big Black Deltas may shed some light, the hypothesis is far from proved, and at 
best is only a partial solution to the mystery of the triangles. Are we to assume that some covert American group was 
flying triangles (along with other UFOs) throughout Russia during the decline phase of the Soviet Union?

A Shadow Government?

There is perhaps one last terrestrial explanation, but it isnít a pretty one. Could there be an ultra-black group behind 
the triangles, one that is so far removed from ordinary channels that the American military establishment has lost 
control of it? Could such a secret group exist?

Our national security apparatus has many layers of classification (including above top secret) and extreme
compartmentalization. There is no question that the American military possesses unacknowledged Special Access 
Programs (SAP) funded by countless billions of secret dollars. Congress provides no effective oversight of these 
programs, judging by the history of the few secret programs of which we know. A great deal can get swallowed up 
by our National Security State and we must recognize the possibility that the flying triangles are one of those things.

It is at this point that an analysis of the flying triangles merges with the UFO phenomenon itself. In the first place, the
flight capabilities of the triangles appear to match those of the more traditional flying saucers. There are hundreds of 
known military encounters with UFOs. Most of these are cases do not show overt hostility, but neither are they especially
congenial. Judging by the behaviors of both the American aircraft and of these objects, the UFOs do not appear to be 
under the command of the U.S. military. This can also be said of at least some of the triangles, such as the one that 
violated the air space over the Indian Point Nuclear Facility in 1984.

For many years people have been hanging around the outskirts of Area 51, watching all the fun things that fly around 
there. Bob Lazar and his friends were there in the late 1980s, filming bizarre craft that could hover and dart. In December 
1990, Gary Schultz, a chemical physicist, was with a large group of people when they saw, in his words: "a huge, glowing
saucer, which was pulsating a brilliant orange-red and flying slowly over the Jumbled Hills - and it was being followed by 
a military helicopter about a quarter mile behind." The object disappeared behind the hills and into the Nellis Air Force 
Range, while the helicopter eventually landed at a facility atop Bald Mountain.

There are many such accounts. Is this evidence that the U.S. military is testing field propulsion, e.g. antigravity, flying 
saucers? Possibly. We may have come very close to such a revelation in the very curious October 1, 1990 issue of Aviation 
Week & Space Technology
, large portions of which concerned deep-black technology programs, cryptic references to
not-fully-understood exotic technology, and reports of black quiet triangles.

Would the other shoe drop? Would someone seriously mention the "U" word? The magazine came perilously close to 
doing so. One wonders whether someone else urgently desired to hush all this up. It is worth mentioning that Phillip J. 
Klass, a long-time UFO debunker, was a leading figure with the publication. Neither the staff of AW&ST, nor those of 
Janeís Defense Weekly
, have followed up in a serious way on this.

Presumably they are still terrified of the UFO topic. Or perhaps there something more involved, a quid pro quo? Whatever 
the answer, they are the watchdogs that never barked.

Compare their silence to the fine work of journalist George Knapp. Here is a man who obtained many solid leads out of 
Area 51, several of which indicated efforts to understand and duplicate alien technology. He spoke to members of 
Congress who were blocked in their attempts to get answers. But no mainstream publication has followed up on his 
leads.

Conclusion

We are facing a situation in which we know that some triangles are ours (as the 1989 sighting by Chris Gibson 
demonstrates), some triangles are big, some are small, some do not appear to be "ours." If there is a single terrestrial
explanation for this, it would have to be a shadow group, most likely among people deeply immersed in the world of 
black defense technology who developed their own agenda independent of any formally established government.

One person with whom I write, and whose judgement I have come to trust, tells me he is "ninety-five percent" sure that
somewhere along the line the U.S. military and scientific minds in the secret world have indeed developed operational 
field propulsion. In other words, defeated the problem of gravity and are thus responsible for at least many of the 
triangles. Another person, someone in whom I place high esteem and credibility, tells me he thinks itís unlikely this 
is so.

While this is difficult to sort out, I am still left with a nagging question: if the American National Security State somewhere 
along the line invented some version of the Flying Triangle, why is there no evidence that it has ever been used in our 
recent wars? Would it not have been useful during the Gulf War of 1991? Or now?

There are, of course, answers to this question. It may have been used secretly and no one has found out. Or, the military
planners may have believed that it was unnecessary for victory and hence still more valuable as something secret. Still, 
it seems odd.

I think itís likely that there are secret, terrestrial, triangles out there. But it also looks to me that some, and perhaps most, 
of the triangles are "not ours," that is, alien of some sort. In my own view, since I think this is true of the UFO phenomenon
in general, it is not especially difficult
to see it as true of the triangles.

What we can say for now is that there is no explanation yet offered to the public that brings all these triangles down to 
earth. There is a large body of evidence that continues to elude conventional explanation. The triangles do not all appear 
to be "ours."

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Notes

1. The National UFO Reporting Center website is at http://www.nwlink.com/~ufocntr/

2. Darryl Barkerís website, Illinois UFO is at http://www.dbarkertv.com/UPDATE.htm

3. Night Seige, The Hudson Valley UFO Sightings, by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Philip J. Imbrogno, and Bob Pratt, Llewellyn
    Publications, Second Edition, 1998.

4. See Don Berliner (with Marie Galbraith and Antonio Huneeus), UFO Briefing Document, Random House, 1995.

5. Bill Sweetman, Aurora, p. 13-15, 64.

6. See http://www.pastpresentfuture.info/alien_ufo_secret_fouche_tr3b.html; by no means is Foucheís the only such site 
    on the Black Manta.

7. Project Triangle website is at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/project_ft/

8. Walter J. Boyne, Beyond the Wild Blue, A History of the United States Air Force, 1947-1997, St. Martinís Press, 1997, 
    p. 282.

9. "Belgium and the UFO Issue," US Department of Defense document, 30 March 1990.

10. NIDS Triangle Research is at http://www.nidsci.org/researchnews.html

11. "Comparison of Unidentified Triangular or Deltoid Aircraft Location Patterns in Three Independent UFO Databases: 
       NIDS, MUFON and Larry Hatch." National Institute for Discovery Science, June 2001.  
        http://216.128.67.116/pdf/triangularcraftdatabases.pdf

12. See Lighter than Air Solar, http://www.lvcm.com/walden/

 

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UFO PROPULSION SYSTEMS
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Alien Abduction Classifications
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Extraterrestrial-Aliens.com - The Alien Presence On Earth.
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www.greatdreams.com/1953-aliens.htm

UFO PROPULSION SYSTEMS
... [p249]. BOB LAZAR INTERVIEW. ... by Bob Lazar. What we experience as the "force of gravity" is not actually a force, but is a distortion of the "fabric of space-time ...
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KOSOVO AT A GLANCE
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THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
... After hearing the story of Bob Lazar on KVEG radio, a construction worker called Billy Goodman and Bob Lazar to say, "We are the construction workers...we put ...
www.greatdreams.com/moon/darkmoon.htm

DREAMS OF ALIENS AND UFOS
... us outside where their ship was on the ground in what we call the triangle space in ... that I have read indicate that many saw this event and is a classic UFO case ...
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BERMUDA TRIANGLE STARGATE? A CONNECTION TO ATLANTIS?
... George X. Sand. Books on UFOs in the late 50's also spoke of the triangle, suggesting that it was alien in nature. The term "Bermuda ...
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Easter Island - The Connection to Extraterrestrials
... Sufi Y and Triangle of Creation http://www.greatdreams.com/sufitri.jpg. ... You may know that "barbell" shapes have been reported as UFOs flying in the air. . ...
www.greatdreams.com/ufos/long-ears.htm

UFO PROPULSION SYSTEMS
... a UFO. On the under-side was the propulsion system. There were 3 large shapes, which I noticed ended up in the #7. In between the 3 large triangle-spirals were ...
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DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - APRIL, 1998
... These were UFO sightings I believe or abductee stories. They were oddly shaped...triangle shaped on top and round on the bottom like upsidedown ice cream ...
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CHRISTIANS AGAINST UFOS AND ALIENS
... graphic from the *U* UFO Database *U* UFO MAPS Menu. ... t understand, one most prominent was a child holding a box, getting chased to a triangle playground where ...
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UFO SIGHTINGS, DREAM CONNECTIONS, AND CROP PATTERN RELATIONSHIPS
... The triangle with the eye inside is suspended above the flat-topped pyramid ... guard where I work told me that he and his supervisor saw a giant UFO come directly ...
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DREAMS OF TRIANGLES
... over the roadway and saw 3 light fixtures on the ceiling that reminded me more of UFOS than light fixtures. A triple set of lights set in a triangle, were made ...
www.greatdreams.com/triangls.htm

TEXAS STATE DREAMS, NEWS, AND UFO SIGHTINGS
... is as follows: Four lights, three of which were in a triangle formation, the ... None
of the eyewitnesses, he added, "have ever seen UFOs before." (Email Interview ...
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Alien Abduction Classifications
... Next, a team of three Grays form a triangle around the abductee (so that two walk
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CROP CIRCLES, THEIR MEANING AND CONNECTIONS TO DREAMS
... often presents the so-called "skeptical" spin on the topics of UFOs/ETs. ... Sacred Circle
Research "Journey to the Heart" (Aquarian Triangle) by Glenn Broughton. ...
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THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
... Are the numerous UFO sightings of "mother ships" actually ALTERNATIVE THREE VEHICLES ...
as it is viewed from the Earth, contains this amazing equilateral triangle. ...
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BIRTHING THE DNA OF LIGHT
... If you happen to be a UFO, fly in a triangle.‚?ú And suddenly, the light balls moved
in a triangle. Or they shot across the sky like ice hockey pucks. ...
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SECRETS OF THE MOJAVE
... At each corner of the EM Triangle you will find BLM stations and they are the transmitters of the shield. ... PART II. Secrets of the Mojave and UFOs. ...
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Visitor Inside Mt. Shasta
... and color healing, dreams of flying, Atlantis and even got around to talking about UFOs. ... to the ground in the back so that it looked like a lopsided triangle. ...
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DEE'S DREAMS AND VISIONS - JUNE, 2002
... people. I could see UFO lights in the nighttime sky, coming from the west. ... gemstones. One was worn like pendant - it was roughly triangle-shape. ...
www.greatdreams.com/jun2002.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - SEPTEMBER, 1999
... a triangle and I knew the secret of their value was the triple triangle wiring on ... people sat to drink at a bar OR they could have watched for UFOs from there ...
www.greatdreams.com/sep99.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - MAY 2002
... It may have been Whitley Streiber, the UFO research/author. ... out that there was a
series of wires that went all the way from the tip of the triangle to the jet ...
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DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - MAY 1992
... around and around with little steps, forming the circles, a square, a triangle,
and a ... Can't remember any details but we were getting ready for UFOS to land. ...
www.greatdreams.com/may92.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - DECEMBER, 2000
... 12-16-00 - DREAMS - I was analyzing a long form about ETs and UFOs. ... The triangle
is a spiritual symbol and represents energies that the bodies use. ...
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DREAMS OF FISH - METAPHYSICAL MEANINGS
... into another section and someone tells her that some women have gone on the UFO. ...
along with a big yellow tropical fish in his mouth, like a triangle with a ...
www.greatdreams.com/fishdrms.htm

DEE'S DREAMS AND VISIONS - JUNE, 1998
... can see the ink in the barrel and then there was a little triangle shaped pen ... It
was about UFOs!" They were all instantly interested and wanted to hear my dream ...
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DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - OCTOBER, 1992
... presented to me that was cut to fit me and a dark blue triangle which was ... DREAM -
My son Tom, my grandchildren and I were studying up on how to capture UFOs. ...
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DEES DREAMS AND VISION - NOVEMBER, 1998
... a buzzing sound and suddenly saw a bright blue plane that was triangle shape skim ...
shouting,"Don't go outside, don't got outside," because the UFOs were over ...
www.greatdreams.com/nov98.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - FEBRUARY, 1999
... I had 16 statements to make about UFOs. ... on and the outline of a building was laid
out, but then someone stole the cornerstone which was a triangle piece of ...
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DEE'S DREAMS AND VISIONS - NOVEMBER, 1997
... "Want a new club?" I took a heavy piece of silver triangle in my left ... a program off
of Joe's computer that would enable me to download pictures of UfOs off of ...
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DEES DREAMS AND VISION - SEPTEMBER, 1998
... 9-3-98 - DREAM - I was looking at a web page about UFOs. ... then and an orange cat came
along with a big yellow tropical fish in his mouth, like a triangle with a ...
www.greatdreams.com/sept98.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - JULY, 1998
... I could see just the big triangle from AOL on the page, and as I looked at it, a
big ... 7-22-98 - DREAM - I was looking at a web page with information about UFOS. ...
www.greatdreams.com/july98.htm

DEE'S DREAMS AND VISIONS - JUNE, 2000
... It was of the sun with a man, a triangle flying vehicle which might be a crop circle
and a round crop circle figure which ... OR, the large circle might be a UFO? ...
www.greatdreams.com/jun2000.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - OCTOBER, 2003
... of bed and ran to the window and looked out and just then two UFOs came flying ... blue -
then there were 6 yellow rows, but under the arm was a triangle of gold ...
www.greatdreams.com/oct2003.htm

DEES DREAMS AND VISIONS - JULY, 2000
... on which there was a search engine to the site which was all about ETs and UFOs. ...
I hung it on a hangar that was black and a triangle shape that regular hangars ...
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DREAMS OF JESUS - HIS SECOND COMING
... taffy substance away from a meridian doorway in the Immune System triangle on the ...
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DEE'S DREAMS AND VISIONS - DECEMBER, 1998
... girl was cute and blonde and ware a dress that was rather triangle shaped without ...
12-21-98 - DREAM - I was working on a page about UFOs, copying and pasting ...
www.greatdreams.com/dec98.htm

DREAMS OF THE GREAT EARTHCHANGES - MAIN INDEX